Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop

Posted by: SFisWonderful

Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/20/09 06:12 PM

I just heard that the Cayuga Indians own a repair shop/towing place in Weedsport. The name of the shop is pullens. From the website it looks like they tow 18-wheelers and repair work on cars on big trucks.

Any truth to this matter?

Posted by: Headless Horseman

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/20/09 08:39 PM

If they're paying taxes and obeying the laws what's the problem? Better this than selling illegal gas and cigarettes.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/20/09 08:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Headless Horseman
If they're paying taxes and obeying the laws what's the problem? Better this than selling illegal gas and cigarettes.

Right on. . .if they are paying the taxes on this business and not putting up a big fuss, then why make a big fuss on the cigs and gas.

See how simple they can make life instead of wasting millions in court.
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/20/09 09:01 PM

yep...but there is more to it than what you have heard I am sure ... BTW..where did you hear ...the news .... cause it ain't new by any means
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/20/09 09:04 PM

They do all over work , they pull cars and trucks off the thruway they have a contract ,good prices and really great people . I know them,The ownwer now .the former owner R. Pullens ....
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/20/09 09:07 PM

Don't worry your pretty little head SFiW... taxes are paid. nothing for you all to worry about!
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/20/09 09:19 PM

Ok . .that is greeat that the taxes are paid. Are the sales taxes submitted?

Do the Indians own this garage now? I heard it was the Cayuga Indians that own it, the same group that owns Lakeside.
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/20/09 09:45 PM

no,its not them. They are silent ... ok satified.. TAXES are taken care of
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 07:15 AM

Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
I just heard that the Cayuga Indians own a repair shop/towing place in Weedsport. The name of the shop is pullens. From the website it looks like they tow 18-wheelers and repair work on cars on big trucks.

Any truth to this matter?



They repair their own trucks that transport the illegal cigs and gas
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 07:16 AM

They want to build a casino next to the thruway.
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 07:32 AM

Originally Posted By: reilley
no,its not them. They are silent ... ok satified.. TAXES are taken care of



Originally Posted By: dwarren
Originally Posted By: dwarren
dwarren

According to the DOS:

Selected Entity Name: PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC

Selected Entity Status Information Current Entity Name: PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC
Initial DOS Filing Date: OCTOBER 06, 2006
County: SENECA
Jurisdiction: NEW YORK
Entity Type: DOMESTIC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Current Entity Status: ACTIVE

Selected Entity Address Information DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity)
PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC
PO BOX 786
SENECA FALLS, NEW YORK, 13148
Registered Agent




street # street account # bill # tax map number
Rte 89 3358 32-2-34.11

Cayuga Nation of New York
PO Box 786
Seneca Falls NY 13148


Unpaid taxes balance: $ 1673.40


Originally Posted By: Reiley
Originally Posted By: reilley

PULLENS PAY THEIR TAXES !!!! THEY ARE NOT OWNED BY THE CAYUGAS
LEAVE EM ALONE! LOOK ON CAYUGA COUNTY if you are so worried ...

How is it possible that the post office allows two different people use the same PO box #786?

must be the DOS and the post office are wrong


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Posted by: sassyone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 08:32 AM

Well Gee, it looks like they aren't paying taxes, after all.
Posted by: justaxme

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 08:33 AM

Originally Posted By: reilley
yep...but there is more to it than what you have heard I am sure ... BTW..where did you hear ...the news .... cause it ain't new by any means


Thanks, I will make sure not to use them. That business may pay taxes but it's the money used to fund that business from untaxed cigs and gas that bothers me. It's called money laundering in some situations. There are lots of tow and repair companies that have to pay taxes on all their income. I'll do business with them.
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 11:18 AM

and there are many NON indian businesses that don't/haven't paid taxes!
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 11:29 AM

Originally Posted By: reilley
and there are many NON indian businesses that don't/haven't paid taxes!

Right! anddd they are nailed to the cross because of nonpayment!

Take the race track right down the street in weedsport. They were behind in sales tax from ticket sales and the NYS Dept of Taxation and Finance wanted to shut them down until the matter was taken care of. They didnt waste years trying to negotiate, they said you have X amount of DAYS to get this taken care of!

Is that fair?
Weedsport and Raceway Park near Elbridge owes nearly $1 million
by Scott Rapp
Saturday September 06, 2008, 11:16 PM
The corporate owner of Cayuga County Fair Speedway in Weedsport and Rolling Wheels Raceway Park off Route 5 west of Elbridge owes the state nearly $1 million in back taxes, penalties and interest, according to a tax warrant filed against the company.

The state is seeking to collect $959,514.55 from World Racing Group Inc., of Concord, N.C., said Susan Burns, a state Department of Taxation and Finance spokeswoman.

Nearly $500,000 of the judgment is for uncollected sales tax from Dec. 1, 2003, to Nov. 30, 2006, Burns said. About $460,000 is for penalties and interest.

"The warrant was issued for failure to collect sales tax. ... It was our effort to collect a liability that the taxpayer hasn't addressed," she said Friday.

The dispute remains unresolved between the state and World Racing Group Inc., which owns the two local dirt racetracks in eastern Cayuga County and similar car racing venues in Canandaigua and Middletown. The corporation also stages the popular Super Dirt Week car races at the New York State Fairgrounds, which are scheduled next month, and owns other tracks in Florida and Pennsylvania.

The company, which reported a record $19.6 million in revenue for 2007, is challenging the amount of the tax warrant, said Brian Carter, chief executive officer.

"I'd offer them $100,000 to make this all go away, which is pretty close to what the actual (tax in arrears) number is," Carter said.

Carter's explanation of the basis for the tax judgment differs from the state's explanation.

At first, Carter said the state was trying to collect unpaid sales tax on pit passes sold to non-racing participants at his four tracks, which he said the state had never done before. But Burns said state tax law requires businesses to collect and remit sales tax on pit passes.

Last week, Carter revised his explanation and said about $270,000 of the approximately $500,000 owed in back taxes is for unpaid sales tax on his company's purchase of the Cayuga County Fair track and grounds for about $4 million in 2004.

About $150,000 is for uncollected taxes on pit passes, and the balance represents unpaid taxes on concessions and other miscellaneous sales, he said.

Burns declined to provide any particulars about the case because of privacy concerns, but said the state generally does not require companies to pay sales tax on business acquisitions. Companies may have to pay sales tax on tangible personal property assets they buy, like furniture, tools and machines, she said.

Here's how the applicable tax law reads: "In addition to your obligations and requirements with respect to the bulk sale as described above, you are responsible for paying the sales tax due, if any, on tangible personal property or otherwise acquired in a bulk sale transaction. Sales tax is not imposed on the sale of real property or intangible assets, such as good will."

Burns said the tax department is trying to strike a settlement with Carter's company, including the possibility of a payment plan.

$460,000 for panlties and interest! The indians must owe hundreds of millions for their lack of sales tax payments!
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 05:07 PM

Its not Mr.Pullens ... they (People who owns Turning Stone) own this property. But they are backers for the guy who owns it. That amount that they owe must be just for this year ,cause a $1000 is nothing for a business in the village. If you have a problem with this , Please go to Pullens Shop and complain to them . They have hired locals and the employees have been there for years .
So please stop posting THOUSANDS all about the Indaians have one post and just add to it.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 05:59 PM

Originally Posted By: reilley
Its not Mr.Pullens ... they (People who owns Turning Stone) own this property. But they are backers for the guy who owns it. That amount that they owe must be just for this year ,cause a $1000 is nothing for a business in the village. If you have a problem with this , Please go to Pullens Shop and complain to them . They have hired locals and the employees have been there for years .
So please stop posting THOUSANDS all about the Indaians have one post and just add to it.

Why would I go to the garage and complain? Maybe these people are just there because they didnt want to go out and find new jobs as the indians came in and bought the old owner out.

I would not do business with them as the they have cost the taxpayers of NYS way to much money by suing us over and over and claiming they dont have to pay any taxes like the rest of us.

I think this deserves its own thread as it is one more business they own and most likely bought with their illegal earnings.
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 06:24 PM

fine what ever , just leave us alone ok?
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 07:08 PM

Originally Posted By: reilley
fine what ever , just leave us alone ok?

Who is "us?" Are you a member of the nontaxpaying indians? Are you an employee of pullens?
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 07:08 PM

Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
Originally Posted By: reilley
Its not Mr.Pullens ... they (People who owns Turning Stone) own this property. But they are backers for the guy who owns it. That amount that they owe must be just for this year ,cause a $1000 is nothing for a business in the village. If you have a problem with this , Please go to Pullens Shop and complain to them . They have hired locals and the employees have been there for years .
So please stop posting THOUSANDS all about the Indaians have one post and just add to it.

Why would I go to the garage and complain? Maybe these people are just there because they didnt want to go out and find new jobs as the indians came in and bought the old owner out.

I would not do business with them as the they have cost the taxpayers of NYS way to much money by suing us over and over and claiming they dont have to pay any taxes like the rest of us.

I think this deserves its own thread as it is one more business they own and most likely bought with their illegal earnings.


Well said, SF.
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 09:47 PM

leave it be.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/21/09 11:59 PM

Originally Posted By: reilley
leave it be.

I dont understand. Leave what be? Is it fair they use their illegal cig sales earnings to purchase millions of dollars in tow equipment and land around cayuga and seneca county?
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 12:21 AM

who said that they use that money for tow equipment ? Pullens Has had that equipment before the sale. And Pullens isn't buying land around Cayuga County.
Maybe they will buy the land next to you on both sides and in back of ya ...
so just stop till you go and talk to the people at Pullens ..
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 12:40 AM

Originally Posted By: reilley
who said that they use that money for tow equipment ? Pullens Has had that equipment before the sale. And Pullens isn't buying land around Cayuga County.
Maybe they will buy the land next to you on both sides and in back of ya ...
so just stop till you go and talk to the people at Pullens ..

You just dont get it. . .the Cayuga Nation, aka owner's of Lakeside Trading OWN Pullens! ! !
Originally Posted By: dwarren
According to the DOS:

Selected Entity Name: PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC

Selected Entity Status Information Current Entity Name: PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC
Initial DOS Filing Date: OCTOBER 06, 2006
County: SENECA
Jurisdiction: NEW YORK
Entity Type: DOMESTIC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Current Entity Status: ACTIVE

Selected Entity Address Information DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity)
PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC
PO BOX 786
SENECA FALLS, NEW YORK, 13148

Registered Agent
NONE

http://www.epa.gov/region02/nations/cayug.htm
ENVIRONMENTAL CONTACTS

Tim Twoguns, Environmental Contact
Cayuga Nation
c/o Lakeside Enterprises
P.O. Box 786
Seneca Falls, New York 13148


Office Phone: (315) 568-6457
Office Fax: (315) 568-2104
Cell Phone: (716) 998-4102
Office Email: timtwoguns@verizon.net

Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 12:48 AM

oh I get it ..believe me ... I understand .. HBT has said it best since you started these types of posting...
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 08:58 AM

Originally Posted By: reilley
Its not Mr.Pullens ... they (People who owns Turning Stone) own this property. But they are backers for the guy who owns it.


WRONG

Originally Posted By: reilley

That amount that they owe must be just for this year ,cause a $1000 is nothing for a business in the village.


WRONG

The list below is some of the properties that the Cayugas "own". Only 2 are current on taxes and all the rest have UNPAID taxes. Can you guess the two properties that are paid?

tick.tick.tick.tick

the illegal smokeshops ;\)
And the ONLY reason that the taxes are paid on the ILLEGAL smokeshops is to try to get them into trust otherwise the taxes would NOT be paid on these either.

name str.# street account# bill # tax map number
Cayuga Nation of Indians Farron Rd 3352 38-1-08.112
Cayuga Nation of New York 191 Ovid St 1060 26-1-04.111
Cayuga Nation of New York 2552 Rte 89 3361 36-1-49
Cayuga Nation of New York Rte 89 3360 36-1-48.2
Cayuga Nation of New York 3149 Garden St Ext 3359 36-1-48.1
Cayuga Nation of New York Rte 89 3358 32-2-34.11
Cayuga Nation of New York 3083 E Bayard St Ext 3357 32-2-28
Cayuga Nation of New York E Bayard St Ext 3356 32-1-29.11
Cayuga Nation of New York E Bayard St Ext 3355 32-1-14
Cayuga Nation of New York E Bayard St Ext 3354 32-1-07
Cayuga Nation of New York County Rd 116 3353 32-1-01.12
Cayuga Nation of New York Spruce Ln 1061 26-1-05.111
Cayuga Nation of New York Farron Rd 3362 36-1-52



Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 09:02 AM

Originally Posted By: reilley
oh I get it ... I understand ..


We doubt you do.

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Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 02:43 PM

Does your husband deliver these illegal cigs by the truckload and pullens works on that 18-wheeler that delivers these illegal cigs to these illegal businesses, is that why you are so mad?
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 02:53 PM

you are a ass! no he doesn't ,and no he doesn't ....
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 03:08 PM

WOW. . no need to get mad, it was just a question!
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 03:13 PM

no it just wasn't a question ... and you know that . You were insinuating.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 03:14 PM

SFisW Evidently you don't make UCE meetings. The Cayuga tribe bought Pullens about six years ago. They comply with the laws and pay property taxes. The unverified question is whether they remit sales taxes on that business.

They also bought a water bottling plant near Cortland about the same time, but I think that has since been closed.
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: reilley
no he doesn't ,and no he doesn't ....


Then he must sell the illegal cigs and gas.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 05:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
SFisW Evidently you don't make UCE meetings. The Cayuga tribe bought Pullens about six years ago. They comply with the laws and pay property taxes. The unverified question is whether they remit sales taxes on that business.

They also bought a water bottling plant near Cortland about the same time, but I think that has since been closed.

Thanks for the info. I havent attended UCE meetings but would like to get more involved. When is the next UCE meeting?

Have they purchased any other businesses?

Is there a way to find out if they remit sales taxes at Pullens? This should infuriate any other business owner (not just convenient stores). The state makes every business jump through 100's of hoops but the native american owned businesses tell NYS how they will operate. THATS BULLCRAP!
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 05:38 PM

SF I jsut posted on the Seneca thread "the question of whether Pullens remits sales taxes to the State. We have reason to believe that either the taxes are not remitted OR the State tax department reimburses the tribe these sales taxes as a tax exempt (tribal) government entity because the tribe owns Pullens. That may be the reason for the Seneca Falls address, claiming it to be reservation."

The UCE meetings are every second Wednesday 7 PM at the Canoga Fire House on Rt. 89. Next meeting is April 8th.
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 06:25 PM

BZ, you are not even flipping funny.
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 07:18 PM

Originally Posted By: reilley
BZ, you are not even flipping funny.


Then why do you support illegal activities?
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 09:38 PM

Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: reilley
BZ, you are not even flipping funny.


Then why do you support illegal activities?


reilly has to be making money on the Indians someway somehow to support them like she does.
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/22/09 11:19 PM

no I don't make money by,or with the Indians,nor does my husband.
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/23/09 10:40 AM

Originally Posted By: reilley
Maybe they will buy the land next to you on both sides and in back of ya ...



Did you give your land back?
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/23/09 10:47 AM

Originally Posted By: reilley
no I don't make money by,or with the Indians,nor does my husband.


Then why do you support an illegal activity that breaks the law by not paying their taxes and requiring the rest of us to pay more more? I just don't understand it.
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/24/09 06:54 PM

Originally Posted By: reilley
no I don't make money by,or with the Indians,nor does my husband.


Originally Posted By: reilley

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reilley posted in the headline forum.
Do you see how the tribes refusing to pay their $1 BILLION of taxes per year affects NY?

Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/25/09 03:29 PM

Originally Posted By: reilley
no I don't make money by,or with the Indians,nor does my husband.


How do you feel about our soldiers losing their lives for our freedoms just so the tribes can operate above the laws?


See your own post -- Auburn man killed in action in Afghanistan .
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/25/09 03:46 PM

Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: reilley
no I don't make money by,or with the Indians,nor does my husband.


How do you feel about our soldiers losing their lives for our freedoms just so the tribes can operate above the laws?


See your own post -- Auburn man killed in action in Afghanistan .


The Cayuga nation says they are a sovereign nation. American soldiers might be called upon to fight them someday. And right in our backyard.
Posted by: racefan73

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/25/09 07:48 PM

You know, I am getting sick of all these anti Indian posts. It's getting ridiculous that there are so many. Yes, I believe the Indian run businesses should be payimg their share of taxes, as none of the land is sovereign land. However, until our politicians decide to get off their butts and DO something, this is how it will be. Also, instead of spending your time griping on here, what you should be doing is contacting our political leaders. NOTHING will be solved with countless postings on here.
Another thing, if people are buying their gas or cigarettes from Lakeside, what is it to you? With the economy being as crappy as it is and no it's not getting better anytime soon, people are trying to save wherever they can. Yes, I know smoking is not a need and is hazardous to your health. However, it's an addiction that can be hard for many to kick. I know many who have tried to quit only to start again. Anyways, if smokers can get their cigarettes cheaper, than they are going to do it, leave them alone.
As for Pullens, I've used their towing service twice. No problems either time. BTW, I didn't know that the Indians owned this establishment. Infact, I wouldn't hesitate to call Pullens again. Whether Mr Pullen or the Indians own this business isn't any concern of mine.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/25/09 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: racefan73
You know, I am getting sick of all these anti Indian posts. It's getting ridiculous that there are so many. Yes, I believe the Indian run businesses should be payimg their share of taxes, as none of the land is sovereign land. However, until our politicians decide to get off their butts and DO something, this is how it will be. Also, instead of spending your time griping on here, what you should be doing is contacting our political leaders. NOTHING will be solved with countless postings on here.
Another thing, if people are buying their gas or cigarettes from Lakeside, what is it to you? With the economy being as crappy as it is and no it's not getting better anytime soon, people are trying to save wherever they can. Yes, I know smoking is not a need and is hazardous to your health. However, it's an addiction that can be hard for many to kick. I know many who have tried to quit only to start again. Anyways, if smokers can get their cigarettes cheaper, than they are going to do it, leave them alone.
As for Pullens, I've used their towing service twice. No problems either time. BTW, I didn't know that the Indians owned this establishment. Infact, I wouldn't hesitate to call Pullens again. Whether Mr Pullen or the Indians own this business isn't any concern of mine.

Maybe when your property taxes, income taxes, registration fees, and paterson decides to TAX everything to make up for our state's debt it will concern you that the native americans are not doing their part.

How do you know the people that complain on this forum dont contact their political leaders. I know for one, I DO! I come to this forum to get to other's opinions on the matter. Some I agree with and others I dont.

I will agree with you about smoking taxes. If people want to smoke let them. I dont smoke and people that do smoke should be courteous to nonsmokers but the taxation in this state is WAYYY out of control.

Nobody ever stated anything about Pullens having bad service, just the fact that illegal monies could have been used to purchase this business from selling gas and cigs that were supposed to be taxed.

If I can support a business that is doing things in an honest way, I will do that versus support someone that has illegal operations someplace else.

The smartest thing Cayuga Nation did is to NOT change the name of Pullens and make it known that it is a native american owned business.
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/26/09 09:09 AM

Originally Posted By: racefan73
Yes, I believe the Indian run businesses should be payimg their share of taxes, as none of the land is sovereign land.


It is just that simple.
Posted by: justaxme

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/26/09 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By: bluezone
They want to build a casino next to the thruway.


Plus they get the franchise to tow away all the cars repossessed due to gambling losses!!
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/27/09 02:40 PM

Do you think there will be "turf wars" between the Oneidas and the Cayugas as the Cayugas will be taking customers from Turning Stone?
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/27/09 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: reilley
no I don't make money by,or with the Indians,nor does my husband.


How do you feel about our soldiers losing their lives for our freedoms just so the tribes can operate above the laws?


See your own post -- Auburn man killed in action in Afghanistan .


Are Afghanistans now allowed to sell illegal cigs and gas in our counties?

Or build illegal casinos?
Posted by: *Sparkey*

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 06:46 AM

You all need to back off reilley..she does NOTHING illegal nor does her husband
Posted by: The Mask

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 06:53 AM

Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
You all need to back off reilley..she does NOTHING illegal nor does her husband


I agree Spark. Attacking Reilley will do nothing to help their cause.
Posted by: AnneSmile

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 06:56 AM

Originally Posted By: The Mask
Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
You all need to back off reilley..she does NOTHING illegal nor does her husband


I agree Spark. Attacking Reilley will do nothing to help their cause.


What they said!!!
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 07:24 AM

Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
You all need to back off reilley..she does NOTHING illegal nor does her husband


reilley does a lot of postings on these forums. On most of her postings on other topics she does indeed sound like a nice person. So I just don't understand why she is such a strong supporter of a group of people that break the law by not collecting lawful taxes which drives other businesses out of business and some of these ill gotten gains ends up supporting terrorist activties worldwide.
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 08:25 AM

Originally Posted By: reilley
and there are many NON indian businesses that don't/haven't paid taxes!


Unfortunately that is true. But the Indians are the only ones who do it openly. Following is from the NY state tax website. These lawyers should be totally ashamed of themselves. These lawyers are being treated more harsly in the public eye than the Indians who do not have their violations posted on the tax website. All we are asking is that Indians be held to the same standard as other tax violators.

http://www.tax.state.ny.us/press/2009/lawyerscharged032609.htm

FOR RELEASE:
IMMEDIATE, Thursday
March 26, 2009

New York State Department of Taxation and Finance Commissioner Robert L. Megna announced today that six Rochester area lawyers, including a part-time town supervisor, face felony charges in separate cases for failing to file state personal income tax returns.

It is estimated that those charged failed to report a combined $1.4 million in income and owe over $60,000.00 in tax liability.

The accused lawyers face arraignment today on felony complaints in Rochester City Court before Judge Stephen T. Miller. Five of the accused will each be charged with multiple violations of the New York State Tax Law, Class E felonies, for failing to file returns for three or more consecutive tax years while having a tax liability in each of those years. If found guilty, the attorneys face up to four years each in state prison and loss of their law licenses under the State Judiciary Law.

Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 08:28 AM

Originally Posted By: reilley
oh I get it ..believe me ... I understand .. HBT has said it best since you started these types of posting...


HBT? Are you kidding me? Now you are accusing us of being racist? You can't make those kind of charges against us and expect to be treated with kid gloves.
Posted by: LOTE

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 08:50 AM

Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
Does your husband deliver these illegal cigs by the truckload and pullens works on that 18-wheeler that delivers these illegal cigs to these illegal businesses, is that why you are so mad?



Reilley is one of the nicest posters on this forum. To accuse her or her husband of doing anything illegal is insulting, to say the least.
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 08:52 AM

I agree that reilley seems like a very nice person. So why she support the illegal action of not collectiog taxes on cigarettes? or gasoline also for that matter?
Posted by: LOTE

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 09:12 AM

And where does she say that she supports not collecting taxes? From what I've read in this thread, she has only supported Pullens, which you all ASSUME is a business funded with taxes not paid on cigs or gasoline.
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 09:16 AM

Originally Posted By: ~livinontheedge~
And where does she say that she supports not collecting taxes? From what I've read in this thread, she has only supported Pullens, which you all ASSUME is a business funded with taxes not paid on cigs or gasoline.


reilley has certainly supported the Indians not collecting taxes on other threads. And it has been shown on this thread that Pullens uses the same post office box as the Lakeside trading center so the tie-in is obvious.
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 09:17 AM

Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
Originally Posted By: reilley
who said that they use that money for tow equipment ? Pullens Has had that equipment before the sale. And Pullens isn't buying land around Cayuga County.
Maybe they will buy the land next to you on both sides and in back of ya ...
so just stop till you go and talk to the people at Pullens ..

You just dont get it. . .the Cayuga Nation, aka owner's of Lakeside Trading OWN Pullens! ! !
Originally Posted By: dwarren
According to the DOS:

Selected Entity Name: PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC

Selected Entity Status Information Current Entity Name: PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC
Initial DOS Filing Date: OCTOBER 06, 2006
County: SENECA
Jurisdiction: NEW YORK
Entity Type: DOMESTIC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Current Entity Status: ACTIVE

Selected Entity Address Information DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity)
PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC
PO BOX 786
SENECA FALLS, NEW YORK, 13148

Registered Agent
NONE

http://www.epa.gov/region02/nations/cayug.htm
ENVIRONMENTAL CONTACTS

Tim Twoguns, Environmental Contact
Cayuga Nation
c/o Lakeside Enterprises
P.O. Box 786
Seneca Falls, New York 13148


Office Phone: (315) 568-6457
Office Fax: (315) 568-2104
Cell Phone: (716) 998-4102
Office Email: timtwoguns@verizon.net

Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 10:12 AM

Originally Posted By: ~livinontheedge~
And where does she say that she supports not collecting taxes? From what I've read in this thread, she has only supported Pullens, which you all ASSUME is a business funded with taxes not paid on cigs or gasoline.

If you could, answer this simple question.

Where do you suppose the money came from to buy all the land, businesses (PULLENS, GAS STATIONS) and pay the millions of dollars in lawyer fees came from?

I will tell you, it came from the illegal sale of cigs and gas. They were undercutting the competition by so much from their illegal and shady acts that they were pulling in millions of dollars in profit.

And if the money didnt come from the illegal sale of cigs and gas, the money came from government "injection" money which all the taxpayers paid.
Posted by: reilley

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 01:11 PM

I am going to reply once and then screw ya all...

Because of you few I have been suspended from my part time job and my husband had his truck 'ripped apart' looking for things that you few insinuated we have done. I can not get my job back till I CAN PROVE MYSELF INNOCENT .
My boss had all of this crap printed out ...

I DO SUPPORT THE INDIANS ,AS PEOPLE ,as INDIANS !
Wether THEY pay taxes or not I will not throw stones. MY taxes are paid. I know the previous owner of PULLENS ,and the other owner of PULLENS .
I HAD been told that it was the Indians who owned Turning Stone and the neighbors still claim that ..so I really don't give a flying RATS BUTT who owns it. I know many of the workers My kids grew up with them and I am mom to many.
The way you all rag on the Indians I really wish that they would buy the property next to you .
You all act like as if a Non white bought the house next to you . Remember how people burned houses because the neighbors were a different color ??? THATS HOW YOU ALL ACT!!!!
You never mentiuon the white folks or white owned business who fail to pay taxes..except those lawyers but you could make a joke out of it ...
SO I really think enough is enough. So I have to hire a lawyer to get my job back to prove that you few were being mean and careless and hate Indians . And to who ever printed this out and gave it to my boss ...PM me .. I have done nothing wrong but you were being totally mean.
I hope this makes you all F********** happy!
Posted by: SilverFox

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 01:27 PM

Shame on everyone. Just because reilly had a different opinion, she sure as hell didn't deserve to have her income lost over it.
Reilly is definitely a nice person and this is a really sad day on the forums. A lesson to all about personal attacks. \:\(
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 03:46 PM

Originally Posted By: reilley
I am going to reply once and then screw ya all...

Because of you few I have been suspended from my part time job and my husband had his truck 'ripped apart' looking for things that you few insinuated we have done. I can not get my job back till I CAN PROVE MYSELF INNOCENT .
My boss had all of this crap printed out ...


Are you blaming others for what you posted?
Not sure what you posted to have your job suspended but it sounds odd.

.
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 03:53 PM

Originally Posted By: reilley
The way you all rag on the Indians I really wish that they would buy the property next to you .


If the tribes obeyed the laws and paid their share then there would be no mention of them.

.
Posted by: bluezone

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By: ~livinontheedge~
Reilley is one of the nicest posters on this forum. To accuse her or her husband of doing anything illegal is insulting, to say the least.


Never said she was not a nice person just confused by her conflict of statements.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: reilley
I am going to reply once and then screw ya all...

Because of you few I have been suspended from my part time job and my husband had his truck 'ripped apart' looking for things that you few insinuated we have done. I can not get my job back till I CAN PROVE MYSELF INNOCENT .
My boss had all of this crap printed out ...

I DO SUPPORT THE INDIANS ,AS PEOPLE ,as INDIANS !
Wether THEY pay taxes or not I will not throw stones. MY taxes are paid. I know the previous owner of PULLENS ,and the other owner of PULLENS .
I HAD been told that it was the Indians who owned Turning Stone and the neighbors still claim that ..so I really don't give a flying RATS BUTT who owns it. I know many of the workers My kids grew up with them and I am mom to many.
The way you all rag on the Indians I really wish that they would buy the property next to you .
You all act like as if a Non white bought the house next to you . Remember how people burned houses because the neighbors were a different color ??? THATS HOW YOU ALL ACT!!!!
You never mentiuon the white folks or white owned business who fail to pay taxes..except those lawyers but you could make a joke out of it ...
SO I really think enough is enough. So I have to hire a lawyer to get my job back to prove that you few were being mean and careless and hate Indians . And to who ever printed this out and gave it to my boss ...PM me .. I have done nothing wrong but you were being totally mean.
I hope this makes you all F********** happy!

Are you honestly blaming the posters on FL1? Blame the native americans that smuggle cigs and gas (FOR ALL YOU POSTERS THAT CRY RACISM-I said the native americans that SMUGGLE gas and cigs-not the native americans making their own way and NOT exploiting their ancestory for above-the-law status and money). lol. SMUGGLE. . that's a great word.

If anyone should be blamed, its your company. How can he prove you are that poster. Unless, you were posting this stuff on company time, he probably figured it out on his own. As bluezone said, sounds odd to me.

Dont worry! There is light at the end of the tunnel, the Cayuga Nation might offer to pay for your lawyer fees because they are so caring and giving! hahahahhahahahhahaa.
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 07:27 PM

Quote:
I am going to reply once and then screw ya all...

Because of you few I have been suspended from my part time job and my husband had his truck 'ripped apart' looking for things that you few insinuated we have done. I can not get my job back till I CAN PROVE MYSELF INNOCENT .
My boss had all of this crap printed out ...


Reilley, I am truly sorry about this. I certainly do not condone such action against you. I have no idea what job you or your husband had. I did see comments online about your husband driving truck but I have no idea if that was true or not.

You have to prove yourself innocent of what? I do not understand. You supported the Indians on here in not paying their taxes, right? Did that upset your boss? Does he think Indians should pay taxes? Did you know his feelings on this topic? Something doesn't add up here. I doubt if he can use this as a reason for firing you but I don't know what you job you held.

Quote:
DO SUPPORT THE INDIANS ,AS PEOPLE ,as INDIANS !
Wether THEY pay taxes or not I will not throw stones. MY taxes are paid. I know the previous owner of PULLENS ,and the other owner of PULLENS .


I also support the Indians as people. I just think they should pay their taxes as should all Americans. If your taxes are paid, why don't you think the Indians should also pay their taxes?

Quote:
I HAD been told that it was the Indians who owned Turning Stone and the neighbors still claim that ..so I really don't give a flying RATS BUTT who owns it. I know many of the workers My kids grew up with them and I am mom to many.


I do not understand what you are getting at here. The Indians do own and run Turning Stone. They are just as much in the wrong as the Indians who run Lakeside Trading. They should all pay their taxes or be put out of business.

Quote:
The way you all rag on the Indians I really wish that they would buy the property next to you . You all act like as if a Non white bought the house next to you . Remember how people burned houses because the neighbors were a different color ??? THATS HOW YOU ALL ACT!!!!


No matter how many times we say it you don't want to hear it. I have said that I have no problem with Indians as long as they pay their taxes and obey all laws of the United States of America. I think all posters objecting to the Indians not paying taxes have said that also. I posted on here one time I would have no problem voting for an Indian for president of the USA as long as he/she followed the laws. I did vote for Barack Obama. I would have no problem with him as my neighbor. I think HarleyBobT has filled your head with nonsense and you apparently believe all his baloney. Do you think that all the people in Seneca Falls who showed up to protest an Indian housing development in Senca Falls were racist?

Quote:

You never mentiuon the white folks or white owned business who fail to pay taxes..except those lawyers but you could make a joke out of it ...
SO I really think enough is enough. So I have to hire a lawyer to get my job back to prove that you few were being mean and careless and hate Indians . And to who ever printed this out and gave it to my boss ...PM me .. I have done nothing wrong but you were being totally mean.
I hope this makes you all F********** happy!


So you have to hire a lawyer because you think that some of us are mean and careless and hate Indians? Huh? What kind of sense that does make? How are we mean and careless? What in the world does that mean? I don't know what more to say reilley. Of course all people should pay their taxes regardless of race. Do you really believe I think otherwise? That is an astounding belief you have then. Something doesn't add up here at all. I don't understand what kind of a job you have or what kind of a boss you have that could fire you for your comments on here that you have made. You have me baffled with your whole situation. Why would you post what you did if you thought it would affect your job if your boss found out?
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 08:09 PM

She probably got fired for using the company computer to post this stuff, not so much what she was posting but just the fact it has nothing to do with her work.

You husband's truck getting ripped apart because of what was posted on here? Sounds strannnnnge to me!

Did all this stuff happen on a reservation. Last I knew, if you were on NY property, law enforcement needs consent or a search warrant to search your property.
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 08:15 PM

She is on here tonight posting all over the place. So she must be on her own computer now? And not too upset about losing her job? There is a lot here that doesn't add up.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 08:17 PM

Maybe she missed her meds?
Posted by: LOTE

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/28/09 11:21 PM

And perhaps you guys can't read or comprehend her last post to you:

"I am going to reply once and then screw ya all..."

Maybe it's you that forgot to take your meds.
Posted by: AnneSmile

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/29/09 01:52 AM

What is really sad is that most of you are not reading nor comprehending what has already been said, sad really.

Quote:
Because of you few I have been suspended from my part time job and my husband had his truck 'ripped apart' looking for things that you few insinuated we have done. I can not get my job back till I CAN PROVE MYSELF INNOCENT .


Whether her place of employment was right or not in their actions is not the point of THIS discussion, it was caused from posting OPINIONS on here and INNUENDO'S made by some that caused the loss of her job and now Reilly and her husband are under suspicion.

People need to understand that their words have influence, whether you intend them to or not. Because of your suggestions, whether you truly believed them true or not, someone is now out of work. The fact that you do not want to take ownership in that you were part of this problem is sad really. Am I correct in saying that you don't believe your words have power and that it is OK to accuse people of wrong doings and it will have no consequences because it's 'just of forum' and you were being sarcastic; not your problem that someone took them seriously? If you believe that you have done no wrong doing and that she brought this on herself by expressing her OPINION, then I pray that no one ever attacks you nor uses your opinions against you at your place of business nor brings your family into a personal discussion.

This was to be a debate, a discussion of OPINIONS and it turned into a personal assault because you didn't agree with her OPINION, very sad really but not the first, nor the last time that this will happen on the forums. Actually, not that it is a forum problem, a life problem that happnes everywhere, just happens more so now with the internet.

As Lote said, LEARN to COMPREHEND, as Reilly ALREADY stated

Quote:
.... I am going to reply once and then screw ya all ...


P.S. This is why I personally do not debate as much anymore and when I do I try to watch my wording, too many bitter people who can't separate discussions from friendships or work. I still mess up from time to time. Just so sad that someone printed this out and took it into the workplace.
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/29/09 06:11 AM

Originally Posted By: AnneSmile
now Reilly and her husband are under suspicion.
Under suspicion for what? Maybe hauling untaxed cigarettes for Indians which reilley supports on here?

Quote:

People need to understand that their words have influence, whether you intend them to or not. Because of your suggestions, whether you truly believed them true or not, someone is now out of work. The fact that you do not want to take ownership in that you were part of this problem is sad really. Am I correct in saying that you don't believe your words have power and that it is OK to accuse people of wrong doings and it will have no consequences because it's 'just of forum' and you were being sarcastic; not your problem that someone took them seriously?

I believe that words have great power. I believe in the old saying that the pen is mightier than the sword. But I am sorry to say that what reilley is saying just doesn't add up. The fact is that reilley was supporting Indians not paying taxes on these forums. Was she doing this on company time? Was that her problem? That doesn't explain why they would rip her husbands truck apart, does it? Did her boss rip her husbands truck apart or don't they know who did it? There are a lot of unanswered questions here in my mind. I have to assume that her boss doesn't agree with her and he supports Indians paying taxes. Else why would he have fired her if she was posting on her own time and he agreed with her? If so, I would think she would of known how her boss felt and written so her true identity could not be determined. If reilley was known to other posters on her, she could of used a new user id unknown to anyone to discuss Indian matters.

Furthermore, reilley said that she agrees with HBT that we are all racists and bigots and Indian haters! That is appalling. HBT is one of the most obnoxious and annoying posters on these forums who never has anything constructive to add to any debate.
reilley said: 'oh I get it ..believe me ... I understand .. HBT has said it best since you started these types of posting... " HBT said it best? That is worse than anything we have said in simply asking Indians to obey the laws of America. Would most of our bosses be happy if they knew we were being called racists and bigots on here? Probably not. yet reilley said that HBT said it best! I am sorry but reilleys charges make no sense and just don't add up.

Quote:
If you believe that you have done no wrong doing and that she brought this on herself by expressing her OPINION, then I pray that no one ever attacks you nor uses your opinions against you at your place of business nor brings your family into a personal discussion.


The problem was not in her expressing her opinion per se. The problem was that she did not think through how her expressing her opinion could affect her in the real world if her identity became known to her boss. Is that someones elses fault other than her own? It just doesn't add up without knowing more than she is telling us. She posted that she was so deeply upset by what happened to her and her husband yet an hour later she is on here making many postings on many topics. I think she recovered very quickly from her traumatic real life experience. I don't believe I would of recovered so quickly.

Quote:
Just so sad that someone printed this out and took it into the workplace.
I agree with that. I just wish I knew the whole story which is very confusing to say the least.
Posted by: HeavenlyPlaces

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/29/09 06:25 AM

How do you not GET that the following posts were damaging to a person's reputation? That the innuendo inherent in them couldn't have been damaging enough to have placed her job in jeopardy when thrust at her employer? What gave you the right to make such statements? BZ, I'm quite frankly disappointed in you. Trump, I don't know you well enough to know if I should be disappointed or not. In either case you both should be ashamed of yourselves.

Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
I just heard that the Cayuga Indians own a repair shop/towing place in Weedsport. The name of the shop is pullens. From the website it looks like they tow 18-wheelers and repair work on cars on big trucks.

Any truth to this matter?



They repair their own trucks that transport the illegal cigs and gas


Originally Posted By: trump
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: reilley
BZ, you are not even flipping funny.


Then why do you support illegal activities?


reilly has to be making money on the Indians someway somehow to support them like she does.
Posted by: LOTE

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/29/09 07:33 AM

You know, it's really none of anyone's business where Reilley works, where she was posting from, or who ripped her husbands truck apart or why. You guys all attacked her with your inuendo because her opinion wasn't the same as yours. As far as her posting 'a ton' after she said she was done with you guys, I don't consider posting 7 times in a 24 hour period a ton. Reilley has many friends on this forum, why does it bother you so much that she posted to them? I'd like to suggest that you all just stop this nonsense and leave her the heck alone and take your fishing expedition elsewhere.
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/29/09 10:19 AM

Quote:
You know, it's really none of anyone's business where Reilley works, where she was posting from, or who ripped her husbands truck apart or why.


I had never heard of Pullens until this thread was started and reilley jumped in to support the business. I now assume that both her and her husband work there or did work there based on what she has posted. This thread has established a strong tie in between Pullens and the Lakeside Trading center in SF since they share the same PO Box. It still doesn't add up to me that such a business that is apparently run by Indians would fire someone who supports Indians not paying their taxes?

Quote:
You guys all attacked her with your inuendo because her opinion wasn't the same as yours.


Not true. We rebutted her arguments because we feel all Americans should pay their fair share of taxes.

Quote:
As far as her posting 'a ton' after she said she was done with you guys, I don't consider posting 7 times in a 24 hour period a ton.
That is not a lot for an ordinary poster. It seems like a lot to me for someone who was so upset about just losing their job.

Quote:
Reilley has many friends on this forum, why does it bother you so much that she posted to them?
reilley does indeed have many friends on these forums. I have previously stated I have had no problem with her postings on any topics other than Indians not paying their fair share of taxes.

Quote:
I'd like to suggest that you all just stop this nonsense and leave her the heck alone and take your fishing expedition elsewhere.
I resent you calling this a fishing expedition when she strongly supports HBT calling us racists, bigots, and Indians haters. Hurtful postings can go both ways. If reilley posts no more on the Indian/tax topic, I will not debate with her further.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/29/09 10:58 AM

Originally Posted By: ~livinontheedge~
You know, it's really none of anyone's business where Reilley works, where she was posting from, or who ripped her husbands truck apart or why. You guys all attacked her with your inuendo because her opinion wasn't the same as yours. As far as her posting 'a ton' after she said she was done with you guys, I don't consider posting 7 times in a 24 hour period a ton. Reilley has many friends on this forum, why does it bother you so much that she posted to them? I'd like to suggest that you all just stop this nonsense and leave her the heck alone and take your fishing expedition elsewhere.

Sounds like someone put their sensitive pants on this morning! If it were my part time job and my boss suspended me for some crap posted on here, I'd tell him/her thats none of her business what I do on my free time. It would be none of my company's business as long as 1)it wasnt about that company and 2) wasnt posted on company time.

I have nothing against anyone on this forum, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but you cant be mad at someone for asking questions as to why others feel the need to defend the actions of SMUGGLERS with such passion.
Posted by: LOTE

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/29/09 11:59 AM

HA! I assure you that I don't even own a pair of "sensitive" pants. I had just read another thread that she posted where you immediately started jumping down her throat. And with that comment, I too, am finished responding to this thread.
Posted by: *Sparkey*

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/29/09 02:20 PM

I can't wait Lakeside to open myself!!..CHEAPO SMOKES!!!!..YEA BABY!!!!!
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/29/09 07:19 PM

Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
I can't wait Lakeside to open myself!!..CHEAPO SMOKES!!!!..YEA BABY!!!!!

Does your breath smell like a dirty old ashtray? Is your voice deeper than macho mans? YEAAAAA BABY. . .YEAAA. lol.
Posted by: trump

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/29/09 07:28 PM

Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
I can't wait Lakeside to open myself!!..CHEAPO SMOKES!!!!..YEA BABY!!!!!

Cheap smokes = expensive cancer.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop - 03/29/09 07:31 PM

CHEAP GAS and SMOKES = HIGHER PROPERTY TAX