Catholic church

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Catholic church - 03/14/19 06:51 AM

Has the Catholic Church committed the worst crime in U.S. history?

By George F. Will
March 13 at 5:14 PM

“Horseplay,” a term used to denote child rape, is, says Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro, part of a sinister glossary of euphemisms by which the Catholic Church’s bureaucracy obfuscates in documents the church’s “pattern of abuse” and conspiracy of silence “that goes all the way to the Vatican.” “Benevolent bishops” are those who allow predatory priests, shuffled from other dioceses, to continue as priests.

The fuse for the national explosion of fury about sexual abuse by Catholic clergy was lit in Boston — the excellent 2015 movie “Spotlight” recounts the Boston Globe’s victory over the stonewalling Catholic hierarchy in 2001 and 2002. But the still-reverberating detonation occurred last August in a Pennsylvania grand jury’s report on the sexual abuse by approximately 300 priests of at least 1,000 victims in six dioceses in the state.

Seven months later, the nationwide stonewalling and coverup continue by the church that, Shapiro says, has resisted discovery “every step of the way.” And “bishops are still involved.” The church fought his office’s jurisdiction and fought the release of the report with its sickening details of, for example, giggling priests photographing and fondling boys, and “whips, violence and sadism.”

Shapiro says his being Jewish has not adversely affected public perceptions of his office’s scrutiny of the church. This might be because of credible reports about a boy being raped and then forced into a confessional to confess his sin. Or a boy having his mouth washed out with holy water after oral sex.

The church’s crime wave is global. A French cardinal is convicted of concealing decades of sexual abuse by a priest in his jurisdiction; The Post reports how clerical pedophiles “preyed on the most isolated and submissive children” at an institute for the deaf in Argentina. Scrutiny of Latin America, from which today’s pope came, will be interesting.

'The church has not been victim-centered': Women speak about sex abuse in Catholic Church
Ahead of a Vatican summit on sex abuse, activists fighting to stop the phenomenon in the Roman Catholic Church spoke Feb. 19 in Rome. (Reuters)

In the United States, the acid drizzle of stomach-turning revelations might become a deluge now that 45 states’ attorneys general have contacted Shapiro about possible investigations in their states. It is highly unlikely that the abuses and conspiracies of silence about them are confined to Pennsylvania. Asked whether this might be, cumulatively, the worst crime in U.S. history, Shapiro says: perhaps, considering the power of the guilty institution, the scale and prolonged nature of the crime, and the “sophisticated criminal coverup.” He speaks of charging the guilty — when possible; many predatory priests have died, and statutes of limitations shield others — “the way you would typically charge the mob.”

An issue that used to bedevil Western nations — negotiating the border between the powers of civil authorities and the church’s prerogatives of self-governance — has been settled in favor of the former. So, when other states’ attorneys general consult with him, Shapiro says “do not trust the church” about voluntarily surrendering archives. The Justice Department has put dioceses on notice about preserving records concerning such things as the shuffling of predatory priests to benevolent bishops.

In November, a much-anticipated meeting of U.S. bishops in Baltimore concerning sexual abuse was neutered by the Vatican, and Pope Francis’s February meeting on the subject produced nothing reassuring. In the United States, the unfolding story — Shapiro says this is “only the third or fourth inning” — will involve legislating. Pennsylvania might open “a civil window” for suing the church, a measure fiercely resisted by the insurance industry that has sold liability policies to dioceses.

“The Faith is Europe and Europe is the Faith,” said the Catholic writer Hilaire Belloc in 1920, a statement wisely construed by Georgetown University professor emeritus James V. Schall, S.J.: “Europe is where Old Testament, New Testament, and Greek and Roman traditions melded. . . . Catholic origins united [Europe] under common assumptions about what life, liberty, God, man, and cosmos were about.” It is therefore momentous that the church is in perhaps the worst self-inflicted and self-prolonged crisis since the Reformation.

Many common locutions — e.g., “Catholic Italy” and “Catholic Ireland” — no longer denote anything real. In the United States, the most religious modern nation, Catholics are leaving their religious affiliation at a higher rate than any other Christian sect. In December, Illinois’s attorney general said the church in that state concealed the names of all but 185 of the 690 priests accused of sexual abuses. The former archbishop in the nation’s capital, Cardinal Donald Wuerl, came to Washington from Pittsburgh. The church’s leaders, says Shapiro, “have shown over decades, centuries really, a focus on protecting the power of their institution.”

In a homily last September, the pope discerned something satanic in the sexual abuse scandal. He meant, however, that “the Great Accuser,” a.k.a. Satan, was attacking the pope’s bishops.

Read more from George F. Will’s archive or follow him on Facebook.

Read more:

Karen Liebreich: The Catholic Church has a long history of child sexual abuse and coverups

Elizabeth Bruenig: The Catholic Church is embroiled in a hell of its own making

The Post’s View: The Vatican finally needs to offer more than thoughts and prayers on sexual abuse

Elizabeth Bruenig: Even as the Catholic Church claims to come clean, something is not right

The Post’s View: The Catholic Church proves incapable of exorcising clergy sex abuse — again

Posted by: Ben444

Re: Catholic church - 03/17/19 05:54 PM

Charles Jay Sykes is an American political commentator who is currently editor-in-chief of the website The Bulwark. From 1993 to 2016, Sykes hosted a conservative talk show on WTMJ in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.


Charlie Sykes Verified account @SykesCharlie2 hours ago

Re-upping this from May: "We should be clear about this. John McCain haunts the Trump White House, not because of his votes or policy disagreements, but because he represents the man that Donald Trump cannot ever be."
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Re: Catholic church - 03/17/19 06:36 PM

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Re: Catholic church - 03/19/19 08:33 PM

Schiff: Real question is if Trump is under the influence of a foreign power
Whether Mueller will answer that question is unclear. But House Intel Chair Adam Schiff said he is steering his probe in a new direction to focus on it.
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Re: Catholic church - 03/23/19 10:12 PM

Tennesseine @Tennesseine 1 hour ago

Everything you need to know about organized religion can be summed up by the fact that no responsible parent would ever leave his or her child alone with a priest or preacher
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Re: Catholic church - 04/01/19 10:17 AM

@americamag 6 minutes ago

Pope Francis: “The builders of walls with blades that cut, with knives or with bricks, will become prisoners of the walls they make. History tells us that."
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Re: Catholic church - 04/17/19 07:30 AM

Kristan Higgins @Kristan_Higgins 10 hours ago

Speaking as a Catholic here…please don't donate to help Notre Dame. The Church is worth $30 billion. Donate to help Puerto Rico recover. Donate to get the people of Flint clean water. Donate to get kids out of cages. Jesus didn't care about stained glass. He cared about humans.
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Re: Catholic church - 04/18/19 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Ben444
Tennesseine @Tennesseine 1 hour ago

Everything you need to know about organized religion can be summed up by the fact that no responsible parent would ever leave his or her child alone with a priest or preacher
Absolutely! Or an Imam. Pedophilia is rampant within Islamic culture. Of course no lefty worth his salt will acknowledge that.
Posted by: Ben444

Re: Catholic church - 04/22/19 10:11 PM

More Americans than ever are leaving the Catholic Church after the sex abuse scandal. Here's why.

Lindsay Schnell, USA TODAY Published 11:24 a.m. ET April 22, 2019 | Updated 5:09 p.m. ET April 22, 2019
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Re: Catholic church - 04/24/19 08:09 AM

Muslim mosques were bombed in New Zealand. This made the Muslims very mad so they bombed Christian church's in Sri Lanka. A lot of wars are started because my god is the one true god and yours is a false god.
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Re: Catholic church - 05/03/19 08:49 AM

This megachurch pastor cast out ‘demonic networks’ at the White House and said Trump is carrying out an ‘assignment’ from God

02 MAY 2019 AT 21:36 ET

At the White House’s National Day of Prayer event on Thursday, leaders in different religions had the chance to speak before attendees and deliver a brief message or invocation from their faith traditions. But one speaker stood out among all the rest, the woman who is said to be Trump’s spiritual adviser and personal pastor.

Her name is Paula White, the leader of an evangelical megachurch in Florida and advocate of the prosperity gospel — a widely disparaged creed that offers the promises of present-day riches in exchange for spiritual devotion and faith. It’s a belief system with striking parallels — and often is an outright cover for — financial scams. (“As recently as last year,” the Guardian reported in March, “White encouraged members of her congregation to send their first month’s salary to her ministry to enjoy God’s blessings.”)

While the other speakers approached the lectern and spoke solemnly and calmly, White barreled up to the microphone and began immediately speaking a mile a minute, telling the audience to grab each other hands.

And despite her cheerful demeanor, her speech struck some dark and ominous notes.

“We are not wrestling against flesh and blood but against principalities, wickedness and darkness, so we declare every demonic network to be scattered right now,” she said. “We declare right now that there is a hedge of protection over our president, first lady, every assignment, the purpose they carry and the mantle.”

She continued: “And like the apostle, apostle Paul, said in Galatians: ‘I was set apart from my mother’s whom, and marked off by boundaries.’ For let him fulfill all the will of the Lord and do the assignment God has carried him to do for your great name, for your great nation and all your people in the world.”

It was a small peek inside the relationship between Trump and White, who has owned an apartment in one of Trump’s buildings for years, The Guardian has reported. She told the outlet that her meeting and forming a relationship with Trump was an ‘assignment” from God.

She has defended the president at some of his lowest movements, such as the revelations around his abusive migrant family separation policy and his deadly neglect of Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria, giving cover for him with his crucial evangelical base. She has also advised him on policy, according to the Guardian, such as the decision to move the U.S. embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
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Re: Catholic church - 05/03/19 09:15 AM

Trump brags people are 'using the word God again' because of him
By Emily Singer - May 2, 2019

Trump used a solemn celebration of prayer to claim no one was saying 'God' before he was in office.

As anyone who has taken a civics class knows, the First Amendment — which grants everyone in the United States freedom of speech and religion — is a cornerstone of American democracy.

Which is what makes Trump's claim at the National Day of Prayer Service on Thursday that people can finally say the word "God" again now that he's president absolutely ridiculous.

"One of the things that Mike [Pence] and I were discussing just a little while ago, people are so proud to be using that beautiful word, 'God,'" Trump said in a speech in the White House Rose Garden. "And they're using the word 'God' again, and they're not hiding from it, and they're not being told to take it down, and they're not saying we can't honor God."

Of course, there was never a rule before he became took office that you couldn't use the word "God," nor was there any kind of national fear of using the word.

In fact, former President Barack Obama often invoked God in his speeches.

Just a cursory search of Obama's speeches while he was in office show multiple uses of the word "God."

For example, in a heartfelt speech on the 50th anniversary of the Civil Rights marches in Alabama from Selma to Montgomery, Obama invokes God multiple times.

"What enormous faith these men and women had," Obama said of the marchers. "Faith in God, but also faith in America."

Also in 2015, after the horrific shooting at a black church in Charleston, South Carolina, Obama delivered a eulogy for the reverend killed by the racist shooter Dylann Roof.

"We are here today to remember a man of God who lived by faith," Obama said of the Rev. Clementa Pinckney. "A man who believed in things not seen, a man who believed there were better days ahead off in the distance, a man of service, who persevered knowing full-well he would not receive all those things he was promised, because he believed his efforts would deliver a better life for those who followed."

There are countless other examples, but the point is clear: Neither Obama nor presidents before him told Americans they couldn't use the word "God."

Trump's ludicrous comment was then followed by another one of Trump's ridiculous claims: that no one could say "Merry Christmas" before he was in office.

"Four years ago, haven't been doing this so long, we did a good job, but when I first started campaigning people were not allowed or in some cases foolishly ashamed to be using on stores 'Merry Christmas' or 'Happy Christmas,'" Trump said.

"Take a look at your stores nowadays, it's all 'Merry Christmas' again," Trump said.

Again, it seems ridiculous to point out that no one was blocked from saying or using the words "Merry Christmas" in their stores.

Add another few lies to Trump's tally — which now stands at more than 10,000 since he took office.
Posted by: Ben444

Re: Catholic church - 05/04/19 04:42 PM

AG Bill Barr has ties to ultra-conservative Catholic Opus Dei — and that could explain his ‘ends justify the means’ corruption

in an extensive post at the Daily Kos, contributor Frank Cocozzelli connects the dots between Attorney General Bill Barr’s previous work with the ultra-conservative Catholic organization Opus Dei and his recent behavior, and suggests that relationship might have influenced his decision to give President Donald Trump a pass after reviewing a highly critical report from special counsel Robert Mueller.

According to the writer, and as noted by Barr’s own answers to a congressional questionnaire, Barr served as a director of the Catholic Information Center (2014-1017), director of the Ethics and Public Policy Center (2004-2009). The CIC “serves as Opus Dei’s de facto Washington, D.C. base of operations. Its staff and board of directors are stocked with members of the personal prelature”s members (as well as members of the Ethics and Public Policy Center),” Cocozzelli wrote before adding, “is hard to imagine any director of CIC not having some sort of developed relationship with Opus Dei.”
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Re: Catholic church - 05/05/19 10:03 PM

John Pavlovitz Verified account @johnpavlovitz 7 hours ago

"People deserve a God who is bigger than Franklin Graham’s and Mike Pence's and Sarah Sander's and Jerry Falwell's and the GOP's God. Their God is small and terrified—and it suspiciously resembles them."
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Re: Catholic church - 05/06/19 07:40 AM

Here is how the Founding Fathers ensured America would not be a Christian nation
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Re: Catholic church - 05/06/19 09:15 PM

Dawn Lenhardt @DawnLenhardt 3 hours ago

If the churches want to get involved in politics then they should pay taxes
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Re: Catholic church - 05/07/19 06:41 PM

Bill allowing public schools to teach ‘Biblical content’ to understand ‘public policy’ becomes law

Civil rights group warns new law is “part of Project Blitz, a coordinated attempt by the Religious Right to enshrine Christian nationalism in our schools.”
Georgia Republican Governor Brian Kemp has signed into law a bill that will allow the teaching of the New and Old Testaments of the Bible in public schools. SB 83, as passed, says it’s designed to teach “knowledge of biblical content, characters, poetry, and narratives that are prerequisites to understanding contemporary society and culture, including literature, art, music, mores, oratory, and public policy.”

It’s clear the bill’s authors believe America is based on the Christian Bible, given the inclusion of “public policy” in the legislation’s text.
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Re: Catholic church - 05/07/19 06:44 PM

Trump-loving evangelical Jerry Falwell Jr. gets ruthlessly mocked in local newspaper

Virginia’s Roanoke Times on Tuesday published a column brutally mocking Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr., which sarcastically branded him “the funniest comedian since George Carlin.”

Over the weekend, Falwell wrote on Twitter that Trump deserved “reparations” for the Mueller probe — in the form of two years being added to his term in office. Trump himself appeared to endorse the idea by retweeting it
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Re: Catholic church - 05/08/19 09:39 PM

Conservative Max Boot makes the case for an ‘an unapologetic atheist’ as president

Conservative Washington Post columnist Max Boot is proposing a very non-conservative idea: an atheist as president. While most conservatives observe right-leaning Christian ideology, Boot wants to lose it.

It’s unclear what President Donald Trump’s actual beliefs are, but it’s clear he hasn’t read enough of the Bible to know anything about it, talk about it or quote it. But Trump tries to pretend he’s a holy man, placating to the religious right, which is neither religious nor right.
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Re: Catholic church - 05/08/19 10:58 PM

‘Church people are sh*tty’: Megachurch pastor gives up on Christianity

Missouri megachurch pastor Dave Gass stepped down from his position after 40 years and renounced his Christian faith, reported the Christian Post.

“After 40 years of being a devout follower, 20 of those being an evangelical pastor, I am walking away from the faith. Even though this has been a massive bomb drop in my life, it has been decades in the making,” he tweeted.

The tweets have since been made private, but a screenshots of the tweets were posted on Reddit.

“When I was in 8th grade and I was reading Greek mythology, it dawned on me how much of the supernatural interactions between the deity of the Bible and mankind sounded like ancient mythology. That seed of doubt never went away,” he added.

It went on to explain that even though he was a committed Christian that it could not help or save his marriage.

“I was fully devoted to studying the scriptures. I think I missed maybe 12 Sundays in 40 years. I had completely memorized 18 books of the Bible and was reading through the bible for the 24th time when I walked away,” he wrote.

“As an adult my marriage was a sham and a constant source of pain for me. I did everything I was supposed to – marriage workshops, counseling, Bible reading together, date nights every week, marriage books – but my marriage never became what I was promised it would be,” he said.

He then added that the church was a place of abuse for him, and that church people are “sh*tty” people.

“The entire system is rife with abuse. And not just from the top down, sure there are abusive church leaders, but church leaders are abused by their congregants as well. Church people are just sh*tty to each other,” he tweeted.

Adding, “I spent my entire life serving, loving, and trying to help people in my congregations. And the lies, betrayal, and slander I have received at the hands of church people left wounds that may never heal.”
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Re: Catholic church - 05/09/19 06:46 PM

Eugene Gu, MD @eugenegu 2 hours ago

An ectopic pregnancy is a medical emergency where an embryo implants outside its normal place in the uterus. If it causes severe bleeding, the woman needs emergency surgery to save her life. John Becker’s Ohio bill forcing women to reimplant an ectopic pregnancy is beyond crazy.

Catherine @CatSkoor 1 hour ago

I had an ectopic pregnancy and a doctor saved my life. One day at a Bible study a woman told me I'd disobeyed God and murdered my child (who could not have survived when I died). That's when I stopped going to church.
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Re: Catholic church - 05/27/19 06:47 PM

Why religion is not going away and science will not destroy it

By Aeon - COMMENTARY - May 27, 2019
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Re: Catholic church - 05/28/19 08:28 PM

Church once known as the ‘Jesus Army’ shuts down amid hundreds of child sex abuse allegations
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Re: Catholic church - 06/28/19 03:31 PM

Trump-loving evangelicals are nothing more than ‘old, white Christians’ trying to stay relevant:

According to the political observer, the embrace of Trump is due to the declining relevance as an educated public moves farther and farther away from old-time religion.

“A lot of attention has been given to the risks to the GOP (at the national level) of placing all their electoral bets on white voters who resent and fear a morally and ethnically changing country. In 2008, white Christians constituted 54 percent of the population. By 2014, that figure was more like 47 percent . And the slide continues. Republicans seem doomed to ride a retreating wave,” he explained before getting back to the heart of the matter — evangelical leaders’ support of the GOP.
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Re: Catholic church - 06/28/19 06:00 PM

Just a Christian hating Fake American.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Catholic church - 07/05/19 03:18 PM

"Fake" American???

Please continue. Your explaination should be most entertaining this holiday!
Posted by: Ben444

Re: Catholic church - 07/30/19 12:37 AM

Right-wing evangelicals are driving Americans to atheism using 8 hypocritical and immoral maneuvers
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Re: Catholic church - 08/15/19 01:23 PM

India’s Modi warns of ‘unchecked population explosion’

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi warned Thursday of the risks of an “unchecked population explosion” in the nation of 1.3 billion people, the first time he has raised the issue, and called for family planning measures.

India is the world’s second-most populous country behind China with 1.4 billion, and its population is set to surpass its East Asian neighbour by 2024, according to the United Nations.
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Re: Catholic church - 08/15/19 01:24 PM

Negative Population Growth, Inc. (NPG) is a national nonprofit membership organization. It was founded in 1972 to educate the American public and political leaders about the devastating effects of overpopulation on our environment, resources and standard of living. We believe that our nation is already vastly overpopulated in terms of the long-range carrying capacity of its resources and environment.

We urgently need, therefore, a National Population Policy with the goal of eventually stabilizing our population size at a sustainable level, far below today's, after an interim period of negative growth.

Most politicians, big business and its supporting economists call for growth as a solution to all our problems. Apparently, they believe in perpetual growth, which is a mathematical absurdity on a finite planet. There must be limits. Science is demonstrating that human population and consumption in the United States and the world are already far too large and are destroying the natural systems that support us. We must eventually stabilize our national as well as world population size, so that they would be sustainable indefinitely.
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Re: Catholic church - 09/29/19 11:57 PM

Pope Could Soon Say ‘I Do’ to Married Priests–and Open a Schism
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Re: Catholic church - 12/08/19 04:32 PM

Here are 5 reasons to suspect Jesus never existed

1. No first century secular evidence whatsoever exists to support the actuality of Yeshua ben Yosef.

2. The earliest New Testament writers seem ignorant of the details of Jesus’ life, which become more crystalized in later texts.

3. Even the New Testament stories don’t claim to be first-hand accounts.

4. The gospels, our only accounts of a historical Jesus, contradict each other.

5. Modern scholars who claim to have uncovered the real historical Jesus depict wildly different persons.

Posted by: Ben444

Re: Catholic church - 12/17/19 09:18 AM

America’s Christian churches are flush with cash despite declining attendance — except for one
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Re: Catholic church - 12/22/19 05:22 PM

175 children abused by Mexican branch of Catholic Church: report
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Re: Catholic church - 12/22/19 05:42 PM

ooooh... how seditious.
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Re: Catholic church - 12/23/19 10:51 AM


Replying to @JeremyKonyndyk

If nothing else good comes of the Trump era, at least the total moral bankruptcy of white American evangelicalism has been laid bare for all to see. Their moralistic high horse has been exposed as a fraud, and I don't see them ever regaining a reputation for decency or integrity.
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Re: Catholic church - 12/24/19 12:57 PM

Editorial: Finally, the Legion's terrible truth

by National Catholic Reporter Editorial Staff
Dec. 23, 2019

"Given the usual glacier pace of life in the Catholic world, history acted quickly to reveal the truth, and where the false and malicious actually lay, in the Maciel/Legion case."

Read on.
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Re: Catholic church - 12/24/19 01:15 PM

Why So Many Young Evangelicals Are Becoming Catholic

No snowflakes here

"Just when folks thought the last of the votive candles expired in the dark chapels of Catholicism, the loud ping of a millennial’s coin in the offering box echoes through America like a gunshot. Where did all these post-modern peasants throwing away their pills and practicing Awesome Family Planning, living the liturgical year and “offering up” their sufferings in smoky haze of incense, come from?

Theories abound: fight-or-flight, it’s trending, medieval superstition is a hard spell to break, not everyone can be among the elect, before the silvered tureen of the Pope’s theological snobbery yet another generation falls like grouse to the gun. Twas always thus, and always thus will be. But seriously, how did it come to pass that the generation of carefully groomed critical thinkers could produce so many Catholics?"

Read on:
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Re: Catholic church - 12/24/19 01:38 PM

The Dark Secrets Behind The Pope’s (Giant Reptilian) Audience Hall
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Re: Catholic church - 12/25/19 02:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Deepblue5562
Pedophilia is rampant within Islamic culture. Of course no lefty worth his salt will acknowledge that.

Think not?

I'll take that bet.

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Re: Catholic church - 12/30/19 07:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Ben444

Here are 5 reasons to suspect Jesus never existed

1. No first century secular evidence whatsoever exists to support the actuality of Yeshua ben Yosef.

2. The earliest New Testament writers seem ignorant of the details of Jesus’ life, which become more crystalized in later texts.

3. Even the New Testament stories don’t claim to be first-hand accounts.

4. The gospels, our only accounts of a historical Jesus, contradict each other.

5. Modern scholars who claim to have uncovered the real historical Jesus depict wildly different persons.

A two thousand year old debate, one has the divine and Constitutional right to believe or disbelieve but that same right understandably is given to each and everyone of us. To follow your logic, Cwjga, TDecker or anyone who cares not to align themselves politically to my beliefs has that rightful stance. I respect you in every form but become somewhat disappointed in your personal agenda to opposes those who support Trump, I don't like it but must respect their views. I don't see air but when I see trees bow to it or feel it on my cheeks, I emphatically know that it's there. My wife being cancer survivor while witnessing the miraculous turn around for myself and others, I find it fitting to believe in a power greater than myself. With that being said, respect is a two way street, if you want me to respect you, then I guess that you're encumbered to return the favor by honoring what I say..........Bottom line, true respect keeps me from rebutting another individual several time a day, each and every day. I learned this from all persons...Teonan
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Re: Catholic church - 01/04/20 09:03 AM

The GOPian Centipede: Final Sequence @grailsnail

The sanest concept of God is that it isn't all-powerful, but a collectively shared idea of a higher being with access to all human knowledge and empathy, that can guide humans but cannot do anything beyond what humans do in service to its goal of advancing knowledge and empathy.
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Re: Catholic church - 03/10/20 08:19 AM

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