Donald Trump

Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Donald Trump - 08/20/15 05:31 PM

http://right180.com/?p=7703

DONALD TRUMP: SIMPLY UNSTOPPABLE –
EXCLUSIVE: BARRY FARBER DECLARES, “HE MAY CARRY ALL 50 STATES”
AUGUST 19, 2015

Admit it. Donald Trump is a volcano in a forest of Ronson lighters.

You’re not going to stop him. He may carry all 50 states.

The awareness of Trump’s invincibility is dawning slowly for several reasons. Nobody wants to be revealed as a fool if Trump flames out. Also, such a breathtaking prediction hates to be borne all alone. “Out on a limb” is a lonely place for a pundit to be. Then, too, a lot of heretofore wise observers are obeying the instinct to adopt a “business as usual” stance. We put subconscious pressure on ourselves so that yesterday’s “clown-by-consensus” isn’t too abruptly hailed as the winner this absurdly long before the first vote is cast. The dreamers in the GOP are still reassuring one another that Trump’s domination is a “summertime thing,” and that come fall the public anger will be gone and the people will ask themselves, “Is this the kind of person we want in the Oval Office?” Dream on, Dear Establishment. People are already asking that question, and the answer is not just “Yes”; it’s “Hell, Yes!”

Eight years ago Americans decided to take a chance on a “community organizer” without one single discernable accomplishment, not even authorship of his own book! (Thank you, Jack Cashill!) Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review – and never wrote a single editorial. And we elected and re-elected him.

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And now we’re taking the measure of a billionaire 11 times over who’s boldly carved his signature in stone and steel and golf-course green around the world, written best-selling books and produced and starred in dazzlingly high-rated TV shows, and you’re trying to tell me this world-class accomplishmentarian is a summertime thing set to evaporate with the first fall chill? In a pig’s eye! Even his worst enemies agree that Donald Trump gets things done. Meanwhile, your community organizer is now a political kidney stone that will take 17 more months to pass. You don’t like Trump’s rhetoric, maybe? What’s wrong with “I love this country and I want to make it great again”?

Donald Trump has ruptured every rule of nature and human nature, science and political science, and continues to sneer at the Law of Gravity itself as he personally and deliberately pushes every down-button while his elevator nonetheless continues up, up and up.

Sen. John McCain satisfies most people’s definition of a war hero. Here comes Trump mocking McCain as being a “war hero only because he was captured.” Some of those “wise observers” declared Trump doomed even at that early point. And what happened? Trump gained!

At the Fox News debate of Aug. 6, some sinister force that wanted to stick it to Trump led things off, not by obeying the natural and organic procedure of calling for all those candidates who vowed to support the eventual Republican nominee to please raise their hands. No. The moderator instead called for “all those who will not pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee” to please raise their hands. And whoever imposed that reverse wording got his wish. There stood Trump in the middle of the pack, all alone with his right hand in the air. And what happened? Trump gained.

Doesn’t our culture forbid us to hit a woman? Meet Fox’s rapturous Megyn Kelly, whose very appearance sets the syrups of the soul all a-sizzle even before her formidable IQ approaches the scale for a weigh-in. Kelly ticked off a litany of horrendous things Trump has uttered to denigrate women. Trump struck back hard. And what happened? Trump gained.

Aren’t we supposed to tire quickly in the presence of a braggart? Trump plunges with gusto and abandon into firestorms of self-praise, citing his fabulous fortune, huge achievements, the hordes of people who love him and his admittedly impressive record for “getting things done”! Trump unloads like a sportscaster whose son just scored the game-winning touchdown in the Super Bowl, as he shares the news that there was just a poll in Nevada, and “I came in first among Hispanics!” Aren’t candidates supposed to use subtle comments to smuggle across feelings likely to win them votes? Trump puts it all out on the front porch where the goats can get it. “And I’m going to take care of our warriors, whom I love! I love our wounded warriors!” Again, Trump gained.

Is Trump lying about the slump America’s fallen into? And isn’t it true that millions too few Americans are working, that our military has been eviscerated, that our allies distrust us, that our enemies no longer respect us, that we get beaten by smarter adversaries across every negotiating table? And isn’t it true that smart, gutsy leadership that knows what it’s doing could, indeed, make us great again?

If the anti-Trump rap weren’t so pitiful I’d be much angrier. Forever we’ve longed for a leader who didn’t have to mortgage himself out to fat-cats, a leader free to appoint the best people and not the best donors. Now we’ve got him.

During the Civil War a group of less successful generals complained to Lincoln that Gen. Grant was an alcoholic.

“Find out what he likes,” snapped Abe. “And send him another case.”

I don’t think Trump drinks.
Posted by: twocats

Re: Donald Trump - 08/20/15 08:13 PM

You really think this man is presidential?

Donald Trump's Tweets
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 08/20/15 09:29 PM

He’s not my first or second choice. I’d prefer Cruz but I’ll vote for Trump if he wins the primary. Huckabee would be my second choice but he doesn’t stand a chance. I’m not on Twitter. I know Trump isn’t politically correct and admits he isn’t.

But I know Obama isn’t presidential and don’t think Clinton or Sander’s is either. Of course those with a different political philosophy would disagree.

The RNC has pushed Bush and I blasted them for pushing RINOS.

We won’t know where the primaries stand until mid March.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016#February
Posted by: Josephus

Re: Donald Trump - 08/20/15 11:00 PM

Originally Posted By: twocats
You really think this man is presidential?

Donald Trump's Tweets

grin
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 08/21/15 12:14 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...m_medium=social

Florida is a must-win primary state and Trump is +4 against Jeb – a former Florida governor. And even after all the talk from Fox News and others about Rubio winning the debate, he’s a full -10 points below The Donald and tied with Ben Carson. Need it even be mentioned that Rubio is currently a sitting Florida Senator?

Trump also beats Hillary Clinton in a general election match-up, 43% to 41%.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 08/24/15 10:03 PM

Trump for President! Anyone who can piss of the liberal whiners has my support.
Posted by: Josephus

Re: Donald Trump - 08/24/15 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Trump for President! Anyone who can piss of the liberal whiners has my support.

Actually... the liberal "whiners" are mocking him, and hoping that he gets the nomination or (even better) that he runs as an independent if not nominated. grin
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 08/24/15 11:10 PM

Trump might wind up as the Republican nominee (though I doubt it) but he's hardly original. After all, having someone aspiring to national leadership who boasts about their country's natural superiority, wants to establish supremacy by building up the military, believes that occupying other countries and seizing their assets is in the national interest, and lays blame on a politically defenseless minority for the country's economic woes and would seek to round them up and deport them is not without historical precedent.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 08/24/15 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted By: Josephus

Actually... the liberal "whiners" are mocking him, and hoping that he gets the nomination or (even better) that he runs as an independent if not nominated. grin


Well since you say the liberal whiners are mocking him makes me want to support him even more.

Trump for President!
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 08/24/15 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Trump might wind up as the Republican nominee (though I doubt it) but he's hardly original. After all, having someone aspiring to national leadership who boasts about their country's natural superiority, wants to establish supremacy by building up the military, believes that occupying other countries and seizing their assets is in the national interest, and lays blame on a politically defenseless minority for the country's economic woes and would seek to round them up and deport them is not without historical precedent.



Round them up and deport them all.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/25/15 07:43 AM


I see Harley's back in full goofus mode, again.

Welcome back, Einstein. crazy
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 08/25/15 05:42 PM

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/illegal...tention-center/

Trump is right on illegal aliens.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 08/25/15 06:34 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Round them up and deport them all.

Maybe starting with you! grin
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 08/25/15 06:45 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...re-than-700000/

For every illegal migrant household that leaves the United States under Trump’s plan, Americans would recoup nearly three-quarters of a million dollars ($719,350), according to 2010 data collected by Heritage scholar Robert Rector.
Posted by: Josephus

Re: Donald Trump - 08/25/15 06:47 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Josephus

Actually... the liberal "whiners" are mocking him, and hoping that he gets the nomination or (even better) that he runs as an independent if not nominated. grin


Well since you say the liberal whiners are mocking him makes me want to support him even more.

Trump for President!

Trump has alienated pretty much every demographic except middle aged and elderly white men... a demographic that is shrinking. Everyone else he has insulted and ridiculed. How do you think he even has a prayer of a chance of being elected?

You're even dumber than I thought you were...
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 08/25/15 10:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
For every illegal migrant household that leaves the United States under Trump’s plan, Americans would recoup nearly three-quarters of a million dollars ($719,350), according to 2010 data collected by Heritage scholar Robert Rector.
I've been watching and listening to Trump since he declared his candidacy. I have yet to hear any specific plan or even the broad outlines of how he would accomplish deportation of 11,000,000+ people without running roughshod over the rights of millions of other people who are either citizens or are in this country legally. And keep in mind that the majority of those 11,000,000+ are part of our economy, shopping in our stores, paying sales taxes (which are an important part of government budgets below the Federal level), and in many cases paying Federal and state income taxes as well as FICA taxes. Currently people are entitled to a hearing before deportation, and the process can take some time without even considering a backlog of 11,000,000 cases. Without hearings, how can one be sure that an individual doesn't have a right to remain here? In short, Trump's "Plan" sounds like a lot of bluster, much like his talk of taking over the oil fields in Iraq.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/26/15 04:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...re-than-700000/

For every illegal migrant household that leaves the United States under Trump’s plan, Americans would recoup nearly three-quarters of a million dollars ($719,350), according to 2010 data collected by Heritage scholar Robert Rector.

Gee... You don't mean THIS Robert Rector, do you??? whistle

"I’m not an economist (and neither is Robert Rector, the principal author of the new report), but I’ve discussed the analysis with six economists, some of them specialists in immigration policy, four of them staunch conservatives. Their consensus is that the report issued last week is not an objective quest for enlightenment, but 100 pages in service of a boldface headline. (SIX POINT THREE TRILLION DOLLARS!) It systematically overestimates the percentage of undocumented immigrants who will get citizenship, and exaggerates the likelihood that they will end up as wards of the welfare state. It underestimates the contribution these immigrants and their children will make to the country’s wealth if they are allowed out of the shadows to work and study and open businesses without fear. It plays down the reality that these immigrants already cost taxpayers many millions. And it assumes that for the duration of this supposed pig-out at the federal trough — 50 years is Rector’s time frame — nothing much changes in government policy.

Rector points out that if you look closely, right there on page 33, he acknowledges a few factors that could bring down the cost of amnesty. This comes right after his longer list of factors that could make the costs even higher — which he told me is what he really believes. But none of these caveats changes the headline. SIX POINT THREE TRILLION etc.

I believe Rector is sincere in his conviction that amnesty will put a crushing burden on taxpayers. But I suspect that like many profoundly convinced people he sees what he wants to see. This is the same researcher who, according to my colleague Jason DeParle, once published a report claiming tens of thousands of poor people had Jacuzzis and swimming pools — extrapolating from a government survey that had found four. Before you laugh, you should know that Rector’s views on the deadbeat poor had considerable influence on the shape of Bill Clinton’s welfare reform, and that his earlier version of the costs-of-amnesty study helped kill immigration reform last time around. He is an ideological force in Washington.

But Rector’s inflated numbers are not the worst thing about the Heritage report. His basic point, that integrating a large population of mostly poor people into the aboveground American economy will be expensive for at least a generation or two, is right, even if the costs will not be as shocking as he claims. The fundamental flaw is framing the immigration debate as essentially about the federal deficit. In fact, the case for immigration reform — and in particular the case for amnesty — is about rationalizing an inhumane and counterproductive system; about putting families that are now stunted by their illegal status on a path, not just to citizenship but to taxpaying productivity; about assimilation and mobility, innovation and entrepreneurship and, ultimately, about economic growth. Heritage is not just offering the wrong answer; it’s obsessing on the wrong question."


Full Story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/opinion/keller-dark-heritage.html?_r=0
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 08/26/15 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Round them up and deport them all.

Maybe starting with you! grin


Sure, I will take deportation to someplace warm.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/26/15 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Round them up and deport them all.

Maybe starting with you! grin

Sure, I will take deportation to someplace warm.
Hotter than hell? grin
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 08:21 AM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Trump might wind up as the Republican nominee (though I doubt it) but he's hardly original. After all, having someone aspiring to national leadership who boasts about their country's natural superiority, wants to establish supremacy by building up the military, believes that occupying other countries and seizing their assets is in the national interest, and lays blame on a politically defenseless minority for the country's economic woes and would seek to round them up and deport them is not without historical precedent.

Round them up and deport them all.

Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 08:47 AM

Love it! Over the last 200 years, we've witnessed White Europeans take this country from the original natives,set up their own set of values, moral and rules to suit our own selfish need. Today, most laws are written for the original masses of the former era, White, Anglo Saxon and Protestant. Now we have the audacity to tell other that you must comply to "our" rules.....NEWS FLASH, take a look at the demographics based on color and ethnicity but who continue to define the rules?


https://screen.yahoo.com/donald-trump-insulting-asians-now-132006607.html
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 02:59 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...nt-in-new-poll/

Trump hits 40% in new poll


The Latinos have been blasting Ramos on blogs and THEY claim they are "Americans", not hyphenated Americans. I think Trump has their vote and the polls don't single out white protestants.

Bill Clinton tried to cheer Hillary up today by reminding her that Nelson Mandela was elected President after he got out of prison.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 03:08 PM

You are correct, $719,000 is WAY too low.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare
To ILLEGAL aliens each year by state governments.
Verify at: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8

2. $22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food
Assistance programs such as food stamps,
WIC, and free school lunches for ILLEGAL aliens.
Verify at:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on
Medicaid for ILLEGAL aliens.
Verify at:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on
Primary and secondary school education
For children here ILLEGALLY and they
Cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at:
http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt....0.HTML

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for
Education for the American-born
Children of ILLEGAL aliens, known as
Anchor babies.
Verify at
http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to
Incarcerate ILLEGAL aliens.
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison
Inmates are ILLEGAL aliens.
Verify at:
[url=Http://transcripts.CNN..com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt...01.HTML][url=Http://transcripts.CNN..com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt...01.HTML][url=Http://transcripts.CNN..com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt...01.HTML]Http://transcripts.CNN..com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt...01.HTML[/url][/url][/url]

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on
ILLEGAL aliens for Welfare & social
Services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at:
http://premium.CNN..com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01..HTML

9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed
American wages are caused by the ILLEGAL Aliens.
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI

10. in 2006, ILLEGAL aliens sent home
$45 BILLION in remittances to their
Countries of origin.
Verify at:
http://www/..rense.com/general75/niht.htm

11. The Dark Side of ILLEGAL Immigration:
Nearly One million sex crimes committed
By ILLEGAL Immigrants In The United States .
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

12. The total cost is $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR

http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/thisaa/blog/2012/03/why-usa-bankrupt
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 03:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...nt-in-new-poll/

Trump hits 40% in new poll


The Latinos have been blasting Ramos on blogs and THEY claim they are "Americans", not hyphenated Americans. I think Trump has their vote and the polls don't single out white protestants.

Bill Clinton tried to cheer Hillary up today by reminding her that Nelson Mandela was elected President after he got out of prison.



Two problems from the past makes your assumptions just that...assumptions. John McCain and Mr. Romney lead Obama in the "Polls" and if history serves me correctly, Obama won both times. In regard to Nelson Mandela, he went to prison for crimes levied by by White Apartheid not criminal in nature. Care to make any other lopsided assessment?

http://www.upworthy.com/nelson-mandela-spent-27-years-in-prison-and-had-this-to-say-when-he-got-out
Posted by: Josephus

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...nt-in-new-poll/

Trump hits 40% in new poll


The Latinos have been blasting Ramos on blogs and THEY claim they are "Americans", not hyphenated Americans. I think Trump has their vote and the polls don't single out white protestants.

Your source is Breitbart? LOL! Wow... that's an unimpeachable source, huh? (note the sarcasm). About as Fair and Balanced as Faux News is.
Posted by: Festus

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 04:09 PM

The GOP deserves to have Trump as their candidate for POTUS.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 06:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Festus
The GOP deserves to have Trump as their candidate for POTUS.

"Every nation gets the government it deserves." -Joseph de Maistre
Posted by: sands

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 10:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
John McCain and Mr. Romney lead Obama in the "Polls" and if history serves me correctly, Obama won both times.

Hillary lead Obama in the "Polls" and if history serves me correctly, Obama won whistle
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 10:06 PM

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/25/oh...h-head-to-head/

Trump 35, Kasich 11, Fiorina 10 in New Hampshire — with strength head-to-head, Update: Leads by 15 in South Carolina too

If you don’t like Trump, console yourself with the fact that no other poll of New Hampshire has showed him this far ahead. However, a Gravis poll of the state taken earlier this month had similar numbers — Trump 32, Kasich 15 — so there’s reason to think this isn’t an outlier. What’s more, PPP found Bernie Sanders leading Hillary 42/35 in this same survey, which is strikingly similar to what the Boston Herald found two weeks ago (Sanders 44, Clinton 37).

Of course, that same Herald poll found Trump at just 18 percent in the state, barely more than half of where PPP has him today. Maybe this really is an outlier. Or maybe Trumpmania is spreading.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By: sands
Originally Posted By: Formermac
John McCain and Mr. Romney lead Obama in the "Polls" and if history serves me correctly, Obama won both times.

Hillary lead Obama in the "Polls" and if history serves me correctly, Obama won whistle


I love when you prove me correct, remember the statement you made in regard to polls? They mean nothing based on even you own words. whistle
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 10:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/25/oh...h-head-to-head/

Trump 35, Kasich 11, Fiorina 10 in New Hampshire — with strength head-to-head, Update: Leads by 15 in South Carolina too

If you don’t like Trump, console yourself with the fact that no other poll of New Hampshire has showed him this far ahead. However, a Gravis poll of the state taken earlier this month had similar numbers — Trump 32, Kasich 15 — so there’s reason to think this isn’t an outlier. What’s more, PPP found Bernie Sanders leading Hillary 42/35 in this same survey, which is strikingly similar to what the Boston Herald found two weeks ago (Sanders 44, Clinton 37).

Of course, that same Herald poll found Trump at just 18 percent in the state, barely more than half of where PPP has him today. Maybe this really is an outlier. Or maybe Trumpmania is spreading.

Your choice of words, not mine, Rich, but in this case I think you have it precisely right.

MANIA

noun: mental illness marked by periods of great excitement, euphoria, delusions, and overactivity.

synonyms: madness, derangement, dementia, insanity, lunacy, psychosis, mental illness;


grin
Posted by: sands

Re: Donald Trump - 08/27/15 11:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
remember the statement you made in regard to polls?

No.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 08/28/15 06:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: sands
Originally Posted By: Formermac
John McCain and Mr. Romney lead Obama in the "Polls" and if history serves me correctly, Obama won both times.

Hillary lead Obama in the "Polls" and if history serves me correctly, Obama won whistle


I love when you prove me correct, remember the statement you made in regard to polls? They mean nothing based on even you own words. whistle


Read your quote my man. laugh
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 08/28/15 09:43 AM


The following image is from a tweet sent out by the Donald (and later deleted)...

At left, The Man Who Would Be King....



...I get the idea of cash (I am very very rich! Unbelievably rich!)











...and the White House (not as nice as my houses, but I'll fix that)









....but are those Waffen SS on our flag?
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 08/28/15 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
I've been watching and listening to Trump since he declared his candidacy. I have yet to hear any specific plan or even the broad outlines of how he would accomplish deportation of 11,000,000+ people without running roughshod over the rights of millions of other people who are either citizens or are in this country legally. And keep in mind that the majority of those 11,000,000+ are part of our economy, shopping in our stores, paying sales taxes (which are an important part of government budgets below the Federal level), and in many cases paying Federal and state income taxes as well as FICA taxes. Currently people are entitled to a hearing before deportation, and the process can take some time without even considering a backlog of 11,000,000 cases. Without hearings, how can one be sure that an individual doesn't have a right to remain here? In short, Trump's "Plan" sounds like a lot of bluster, much like his talk of taking over the oil fields in Iraq.


Ok so illegal aliens with no social security numbers are paying federal and state income taxes as well as social security tax?
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 08/28/15 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Love it! Over the last 200 years, we've witnessed White Europeans take this country from the original natives,set up their own set of values, moral and rules to suit our own selfish need. Today, most laws are written for the original masses of the former era, White, Anglo Saxon and Protestant. Now we have the audacity to tell other that you must comply to "our" rules.....NEWS FLASH, take a look at the demographics based on color and ethnicity but who continue to define the rules?


Will you be giving any property you own back to the Indians? Oh my. The audacity to tell others that they must comply.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 08/28/15 10:47 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
I've been watching and listening to Trump since he declared his candidacy. I have yet to hear any specific plan or even the broad outlines of how he would accomplish deportation of 11,000,000+ people without running roughshod over the rights of millions of other people who are either citizens or are in this country legally. And keep in mind that the majority of those 11,000,000+ are part of our economy, shopping in our stores, paying sales taxes (which are an important part of government budgets below the Federal level), and in many cases paying Federal and state income taxes as well as FICA taxes. Currently people are entitled to a hearing before deportation, and the process can take some time without even considering a backlog of 11,000,000 cases. Without hearings, how can one be sure that an individual doesn't have a right to remain here? In short, Trump's "Plan" sounds like a lot of bluster, much like his talk of taking over the oil fields in Iraq.


Ok so illegal aliens with no social security numbers are paying federal and state income taxes as well as social security tax?
Actually yes. Immigrants who entered the country on a temporary work visa are assigned tax ID numbers and they have been paying Federal, state, and local taxes as well as FICA, even though they may currently be illegal because they have overstayed their visa. Others who simply entered the country illegally have been using social security numbers ot tax ID numbers that belong to a relative/friend, or simply a made up number. Regardless, if they are on a payroll, they are all paying local and state sales taxes. But with regard to social security, they will never receive any benefit from the FICA taxes they have paid.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 08/28/15 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Actually yes. Immigrants who entered the country on a temporary work visa are assigned tax ID numbers and they have been paying Federal, state, and local taxes as well as FICA, even though they may currently be illegal because they have overstayed their visa. Others who simply entered the country illegally have been using social security numbers ot tax ID numbers that belong to a relative/friend, or simply a made up number. Regardless, if they are on a payroll, they are all paying local and state sales taxes. But with regard to social security, they will never receive any benefit from the FICA taxes they have paid.


So they use social security numbers or tax i.d. numbers of others just to pay taxes? They make up social security numbers just to pay taxes? Seriously?

When my tax guy a few years ago transposed a couple numbers on my son's social security number it was immediately flagged as an improper number. Wouldn't a made up number that doesn't match the name be caught?

Do illegal aliens who use friends/relatives numbers or made up numbers efile? Do they use Turbotax? Do they hire someone to do their taxes?
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 08/29/15 07:58 AM

They don't make up social security numbers just to pay taxes -- they make up numbers or use someone else's number (and name) to get on a payroll. Those with IRS issued taxpayer ID numbers aren't worried about getting caught using a bogus SS number. I'm not saying they all file tax returns -- but they pay taxes withheld from a paycheck. They can't apply for public assistance benefits without a SS number either.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 08/30/15 07:33 PM

http://www.timefortrump2016.com/2015/08/video-donald-trump-wins-nashville.html
NASHVILLE, Tennessee — After delivering an energetic 50 minute speech using no notes or teleprompter, GOP frontrunner Donald Trump easily won a presidential straw poll conducted at the annual convention of the National Federation of Republican Assemblies, garnering 52 percent of the votes cast.

Tea Party favorite Sen. Ted Cruz finished second with 24 percent, and Dr. Ben Carson, another political outsider and Tea Party friend, finished behind Cruz in third.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/30/15 07:39 PM


News indicating a Democratic reelection has never been better! grin
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/30/15 07:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Love it! Over the last 200 years, we've witnessed White Europeans take this country from the original natives,set up their own set of values, moral and rules to suit our own selfish need. Today, most laws are written for the original masses of the former era, White, Anglo Saxon and Protestant. Now we have the audacity to tell other that you must comply to "our" rules.....NEWS FLASH, take a look at the demographics based on color and ethnicity but who continue to define the rules?
No country has attempted to set up its laws to make everyone equal as much as the USA which proclaims all men are created equal regardless of race, creed, or color. And now we have a black man as president. It makes me feel proud of how far we have come.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/30/15 07:52 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Love it! Over the last 200 years, we've witnessed White Europeans take this country from the original natives,set up their own set of values, moral and rules to suit our own selfish need. Today, most laws are written for the original masses of the former era, White, Anglo Saxon and Protestant. Now we have the audacity to tell other that you must comply to "our" rules.....NEWS FLASH, take a look at the demographics based on color and ethnicity but who continue to define the rules?
No country has attempted to set up its laws to make everyone equal as much as the USA which proclaims all men are created equal regardless of race, creed, or color. And now we have a black man as president. It makes me feel proud of how far we have come.

Apparently. you don't remember the image that FM was replying to.

Allow me to refresh your selective memory (don't choke on it)...
whistle


Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 08/30/15 08:00 PM

One Black President but no Female President, have you read about female leadership in other countries for decades now? Laws are only as effective as those being enforced or recognized. Why is there discrimination being utilized in corporate such as Apple (look it up in regard to minority Employment? Funny that if you talked to Women and minorities, they would tell you that it's a disgrace that this is the 21st Century here in the United States yet our country has resisted any major changes since our forefathers. Look that up as well. How many corporate have CEO who are Women or minorities? Look up the progress of our original Native American and tell us about their ability to succeed.


http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2014/05/16/native-americans-alive-well-racism/



http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/08/13/apple-diversity-report-shows-little-progress/31651165/
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/30/15 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
One Black President but no Female President, have you read about female leadership in other countries for decades now? Laws are only as effective as those being enforced or recognized. Why is there discrimination being utilized in corporate such as Apple (look it up in regard to minority Employment? Funny that if you talked to Women and minorities, they would tell you that it's a disgrace that this is the 21st Century here in the United States yet our country has resisted any major changes since our forefathers. Look that up as well. How many corporate have CEO who are Women or minorities?

I wouldn't so much say that it's a matter of blatant discrimination as much as it's an issue of failure to sufficiently advance the cause. Tim Cook has admitted as much and has been making concerted efforts to improve corporate diversity at Apple. Few CEOs have greater civil rights integrity than he. He recognizes that there is much room for improvement.

http://www.webpronews.com/apple-reveals-modest-improvement-in-employee-diversity-2015-08
http://mashable.com/2015/06/08/tim-cook-apple-diversity-women-future/
http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/08/tim-cook-diversity-women-wwdc/
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/16/tech/web/apple-cook-civil-rights/
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 08/30/15 08:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
One Black President but no Female President, have you read about female leadership in other countries for decades now? Laws are only as effective as those being enforced or recognized. Why is there discrimination being utilized in corporate such as Apple (look it up in regard to minority Employment? Funny that if you talked to Women and minorities, they would tell you that it's a disgrace that this is the 21st Century here in the United States yet our country has resisted any major changes since our forefathers. Look that up as well. How many corporate have CEO who are Women or minorities? Look up the progress of our original Native American and tell us about their ability to succeed.


http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2014/05/16/native-americans-alive-well-racism/



http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/08/13/apple-diversity-report-shows-little-progress/31651165/


In the final analogy, Obama will leave office as one of the most hated Presidents, not because of his job performance but because of his skin color.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 08/30/15 09:11 PM

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015...no-republicans/

BOOM – Univision Reluctantly Reports Donald Trump Leading With Latino Republicans….

In a Public Policy Polling survey, Trump leads with 34% of Hispanic voters, surpassing Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. What makes this poll even more delicious, is that it had to be reported on Univision:
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 08/30/15 09:30 PM

I think that even you don't believe your humorous tales Rich. Obviously the jokes on you when you attempt to state that all a candidate has to do is disrespect your race by calling them rapists, criminal and murderers and you have their support.....excuse me while I consult a 5 year old in regard to that premise. What are odd that even children respond in an negative way when disrespected.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/30/15 11:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015...no-republicans/

BOOM – Univision Reluctantly Reports Donald Trump Leading With Latino Republicans….

In a Public Policy Polling survey, Trump leads with 34% of Hispanic voters, surpassing Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. What makes this poll even more delicious, is that it had to be reported on Univision:

Have you completely lost your mind (he asks knowingly)???

Hispanic voters can't stand Trump:
http://www.businessinsider.com/hispanic-voters-cant-stand-trump-2015-8

As Trump Surges in the Polls, Hispanic Voters Flock to Hillary Clinton:
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/07/17/Trump-Surges-Polls-Hispanic-Voters-Flock-Hillary-Clinton

Latino Vote: Univision poll puts Hillary Clinton firmly ahead of presidential pack among Hispanics:
http://somos.blog.statesman.com/2015/07/...mong-hispanics/

Clinton Leads Hispanic Vote in Univision Poll:
http://time.com/3960958/clinton-hispanic-univision-poll/


4 Charts That Explain How Latino Voters Feel About 2016 Presidential Candidates: Unsurprisingly, Trump is the least favorite. What about the other candidates?








http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/four...4b0f1cbf1e3962b


Posted by: Josephus

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 03:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015...no-republicans/

BOOM – Univision Reluctantly Reports Donald Trump Leading With Latino Republicans….

In a Public Policy Polling survey, Trump leads with 34% of Republican Hispanic voters, surpassing Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. What makes this poll even more delicious, is that it had to be reported on Univision:

FIFY...

What percentage of Hispanics do you think are republicans? What percentage who aren't republican do you think would vote for an arrogant racist like Trump?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 10:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
One Black President but no Female President, have you read about female leadership in other countries for decades now?
Wow. For decades now! Currently we have female candidates for president in both major parties. I call that progress. It is only a matter of time.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 10:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
In the final analogy, Obama will leave office as one of the most hated Presidents, not because of his job performance but because of his skin color.
Oh I don't think so. He was re-elected and I think his current approval rating is at least as good as the last president who was not even invited to his parties next convention after he left office.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 10:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Funny that if you talked to Women and minorities, they would tell you that it's a disgrace that this is the 21st Century here in the United States yet our country has resisted any major changes since our forefathers.
Really? I thought eliminating slavery in the Civil war was a major change since our forefathers time.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 10:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Why is there discrimination being utilized in corporate such as Apple (look it up in regard to minority Employment?
I wouldn't so much say that it's a matter of blatant discrimination as much as it's an issue of failure to sufficiently advance the cause. Tim Cook has admitted as much and has been making concerted efforts to improve corporate diversity at Apple. Few CEOs have greater civil rights integrity than he. He recognizes that there is much room for improvement.
Once again progress.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 11:52 AM

Once again, progress based on who's definition? You being a White Male never faced the adversities of minorities or Women waiting decades of falling below the level of life achievement goals. One thing to not push or drive one's self but when you're hindered based on the sole premise of gender or race, that you'll never fully comprehend the frustration. I had a few experiences of garnering electrical contracts which somehow surprise unknowing people once I showed up to do the work....why? yet you like to speak of progress in the 21st Century. Name a Female NFL coach, we witnessed a female referee at an NFL game, a first, Name a female President, yet several have run over the last 30 years, yet I can name dozens of Female president and Prime Ministers from other country....progress at a snail pace is only acceptable if you're someone whistle standing in your shoes.Locally, I remember several heated conversations between you and other posters in regard to Native Americans and their impact particularly to Seneca County, you came across rather bigoted if not racist....both attributes characterize individuals seeing women and minorities as someone that should be graceful for even getting what they have and should not complain whatsoever.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 12:10 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
One Black President but no Female President, have you read about female leadership in other countries for decades now?
Wow. For decades now! Currently we have female candidates for president in both major parties. I call that progress. It is only a matter of time.



PROGRESS

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...cist-party.html
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 12:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Locally, I remember several heated conversations between you and other posters in regard to Native Americans and their impact particularly to Seneca County, you came across rather bigoted if not racist....
Native Americans are American citizens. I think their businesses should pay the same taxes as all businesses for a level playing field. I strongly object to that making me bigoted or worse.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 12:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
One Black President but no Female President, have you read about female leadership in other countries for decades now?
Wow. For decades now! Currently we have female candidates for president in both major parties. I call that progress. It is only a matter of time.
PROGRESS

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...cist-party.html
Progress can only continue with the defeat of the likes of Donald Trump.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 12:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Name a female President, yet several have run over the last 30 years, yet I can name dozens of Female president and Prime Ministers from other country....progress at a snail pace is only acceptable if you're someone whistle standing in your shoes.
Twice I voted for a black president. I am more than ready to vote for a female president. I don't know what more you expect me to do.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 12:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Name a female President, yet several have run over the last 30 years,
None has yet been nominated by a major party.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
One Black President but no Female President, have you read about female leadership in other countries for decades now?
Wow. For decades now! Currently we have female candidates for president in both major parties. I call that progress. It is only a matter of time.
PROGRESS

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...cist-party.html
Progress can only continue with the defeat of the likes of Donald Trump.

His chickens may be coming home to roost,

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-time-forever-donald-trump-154600463.html

For the first time in forever, Donald Trump doesn't have the outright lead in a poll
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Name a female President, yet several have run over the last 30 years, yet I can name dozens of Female president and Prime Ministers from other country....progress at a snail pace is only acceptable if you're someone whistle standing in your shoes.
Twice I voted for a black president. I am more than ready to vote for a female president. I don't know what more you expect me to do.


I have no expectation from you personally, maybe what you fail to comprehend is the fact that a single link in regard to Trump's support speaks volume is the "REAL" progress taking place in our country. BTW: I voted once for McCain and a second time for Obama, does that give me points for voting for a White man (hope you possess a sense of humor, I sure do)
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 01:48 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Funny that if you talked to Women and minorities, they would tell you that it's a disgrace that this is the 21st Century here in the United States yet our country has resisted any major changes since our forefathers.
Really? I thought eliminating slavery in the Civil war was a major change since our forefathers time.

The laws have changed, but the sentiments still remain. Especially in the southern states.

So no. We still have a looong way to go before I'll say that any major change has happened.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Why is there discrimination being utilized in corporate such as Apple (look it up in regard to minority Employment?
I wouldn't so much say that it's a matter of blatant discrimination as much as it's an issue of failure to sufficiently advance the cause. Tim Cook has admitted as much and has been making concerted efforts to improve corporate diversity at Apple. Few CEOs have greater civil rights integrity than he. He recognizes that there is much room for improvement.
Once again progress.

The exception, not the RULE.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 01:58 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Locally, I remember several heated conversations between you and other posters in regard to Native Americans and their impact particularly to Seneca County, you came across rather bigoted if not racist....
Native Americans are American citizens. I think their businesses should pay the same taxes as all businesses for a level playing field. I strongly object to that making me bigoted or worse.

Please let's not hijack yet another thread. The subject is about a greedy, racist billionaire land developer running for president.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 02:21 PM


White Nationalist Media Have Found Their "Great" "Hope" In Donald Trump And His Immigration Plan:

White nationalist media figures are backing Donald Trump's presidential campaign and celebrating his stance on immigration. They have hailed Trump as "doing the Lord's work," someone who "represents our interests," "the best of the lot," and the "last hope for a president who would be good for white people."

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/27/white-nationalist-media-have-found-their-great/205215

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Top Racists And Neo-Nazis Back Donald Trump:

He might not want their endorsement, but white nationalists want him.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/...t-do#.nmjmLOLLW

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Why White Supremacists Love Donald Trump:

http://www.vice.com/read/why-white-supremacists-love-donald-trump-827

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Neo-Nazi Website Endorses Donald Trump For President:

The Daily Stormer, a Neo-Nazi and white nationalist news website, is throwing its support behind Donald Trump.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-08-21/tr...ly-questionable

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Donald Trump’s nationalist coalition takes shape... for now:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-fearful-and-the-frustrated

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Donald Trump is the New Face of White Supremacy:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/28/donald-trump-is-the-new-face-of-white-supremacy/
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 02:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Please let's not hijack yet another thread.
Ya I don't know why I bother trying.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 02:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Funny that if you talked to Women and minorities, they would tell you that it's a disgrace that this is the 21st Century here in the United States yet our country has resisted any major changes since our forefathers.
Really? I thought eliminating slavery in the Civil war was a major change since our forefathers time.

The laws have changed, but the sentiments still remain. Especially in the southern states.

So no. We still have a looong way to go before I'll say that any major change has happened.
Even in the southern states, blacks are not slaves. You don't see that as a major change?
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Funny that if you talked to Women and minorities, they would tell you that it's a disgrace that this is the 21st Century here in the United States yet our country has resisted any major changes since our forefathers.
Really? I thought eliminating slavery in the Civil war was a major change since our forefathers time.

The laws have changed, but the sentiments still remain. Especially in the southern states.

So no. We still have a looong way to go before I'll say that any major change has happened.
Even in the southern states, blacks are not slaves. You don't see that as a major change?

I prefer to stick with the thread topic and not to get mired in one more vehicle just to take up an alleged "discussion" on native (or any other) rights.
Posted by: Josephus

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 03:09 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Funny that if you talked to Women and minorities, they would tell you that it's a disgrace that this is the 21st Century here in the United States yet our country has resisted any major changes since our forefathers.
Really? I thought eliminating slavery in the Civil war was a major change since our forefathers time.

It was... but within 20 years it was replaced in the south by Jim Crow, which relegated African Americans to second class citizen status, allowing them only menial labor jobs and share cropping in most cases, and of course unequal segregation. That lasted for 100 years after the Civil War, so how much of an advance was it really?
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 03:12 PM

I don’t disagree with you, but that word was part of the cut and paste from the article.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 09:17 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0EfHvCX7uQ&feature=player_embedded

Trump leads with Republican Latinos. As others have noted, that doesn't mean the majority of Latinos. Probably only those who work for a living.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 09:20 PM

Yes, and the Communists endorsed Obama
http://www.keywiki.org/Barack_Obama_and_the_Communist_Party
Posted by: Barack Obama

Re: Donald Trump - 08/31/15 10:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Yes, and the Communists endorsed Obama
http://www.keywiki.org/Barack_Obama_and_the_Communist_Party


I polled very strongly in the dead communist demographic. I am still undecided if I want to run again.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/01/15 07:28 AM

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials...-poll-finds.htm

Shock Poll: 59% Back Trump On Deportation of Illegals

The Obama administration itself has admitted that Immigration and Customs Enforcement released more than 30,000 convicted criminal aliens just last year, including 169 with murder convictions.

The benefits of deportation far outweigh the costs. Those who cry Obama has deported more than anyone else need to consider that more have illegally entered under his watch than anyone else.

But the prize for overheated rhetoric goes to Hillary Clinton, who said Trump wants to "literally pull people out of their homes and their workplaces, round them up, put them, I don't know, in buses, boxcars, in order to take them across our border."

But the wife of Monica Lewinsky’s ex-boyfriend who lost six billion dollars as Secretary of State, sold uranium to the Russians through her faux charity, illegally deleted public records, had 47 bodies left in her wake before she was even appointed to Secretary of State is asking for your vote.


http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/n...tralia-n1959773

Not a Single Illegal Immigrant in 7 Months... In Australia

Australia had a problem with illegal immigration.
It doesn’t anymore.

In the past seven months, not one single illegal immigrant arrived on Australian shores. Not one single boat has docked on the Australian coastline.

Compare this to the preceding four year period: over 50,000 illegal immigrants arrived on Australian shores. More than 800 boats. Upwards of 1000 people drowned at sea. A budget blowout of more than 10.3 billion dollars.

Those that arrived were given welcome hampers, mobile phones, plasma TVs, housing, medical and other household items- all at a cost to the taxpayer.

And the overwhelming majority of those that came were not genuine refugees; many of them turned up in designer clothes, and with mobile phones. They weren’t fleeing persecution; they just wanted a piece of Australia’s generous welfare state.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 09/01/15 07:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Yes, and the Communists endorsed Obama
http://www.keywiki.org/Barack_Obama_and_the_Communist_Party

Ah yes, Kyle's mentor and hijacker of thread, speaks. Unfortunately for him, what he's suggesting is (as usual) complete hogwash.

Frank Marshall Davis - Obama’s ‘Communist Mentor’?:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact...mmunist-mentor/

The Facts: The Case Against Davis.
Davis was born in Kansas in 1905. His encounters with racism and poverty throughout childhood inspired his life-long quest for racial and economic equality. He lived and worked in Chicago for most of his early adulthood, then moved to Hawaii, where he died in 1987.

He was a prolific poet and political columnist. He associated with other black-rights activists and labor unions and decried Jim Crow segregation laws in his columns.

His writings caught the attention of the FBI, which began tracking him in the 1930s, according to FBI records that Kincaid obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. The FBI was concerned with his role as executive editor of the Associated Negro Press, through which agents believed he was spreading Communist propaganda to the outlet’s members.

Informants told the FBI that Davis was a member of the party and organized its marches. The FBI record of Davis contains what is purported to be his Communist Party identification number: #47544. (The number was obtained from a “highly confidential source,” the files show.) The House Committee on Un-American Activities was well aware of Davis by the late 1940s. Davis’s last identification as a Communist Party member was in 1952, and he stopped being active with the Hawaii Civil Rights Congress in 1956, the file says. When Davis took the Fifth Amendment in front of the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee in 1956, agents were suspicious.

So the FBI continued to track him into the 1960s and did not officially remove him from the Security Index until 1963.

Davis had an interest in photography. In Hawaii, he took pictures of shorelines, apparently not photographing any particular objects, according to an FBI informant. That implies he might have been taking photos for espionage, to send to Soviet leaders to target Hawaii as a strategic territory, said Kincaid and Trevor Loudon, a libertarian activist who also researches this topic.

No other person can claim the title of Obama “mentor” than Davis, wrote Paul Kengor in “The Communist,” his book about Davis and Obama. “Frank is a lasting, permanent influence, an integral part of Obama’s sojourn,” he wrote.

Obama’s grandfather introduced him to Davis, whom Obama took to as a father-like figure, Kengor wrote. Kengor quotes passages from “Dreams from My Father” of their conversations on social justice, race relations and limitations of white tolerance.

Obama sat around listening to stories as his grandfather and Davis drank, and “it would be the height of gullibility to assume that (Davis), during those long evenings of talk and drink, never taught any politics to the wide-eyed Obama, or ruminated aloud with no effect whatsoever on the impressionable young man in the room — brought there (by a leftist grandfather) to be mentored in the first place,” Kengor wrote.

Obama sought advice from Davis as a college freshman — the last known meeting between the two. As Obama became a community organizer in college and later grappled with the challenges of race and poverty in Chicago, he visualized Davis and asked, “What would Frank do? What would Frank think?” Kengor wrote. Obama does refer to Davis several times in his book when listing people who influenced his understanding of his black identity.

The use of the word “change” during Obama’s first campaign for president hearkens Davis’s desire for change, Kengor wrote.

Why do Kincaid and others believe that the relationship with Davis shaped Obama more than, say, his own experiences and others he met throughout his life? Why does it matter that he met Davis as a teen? It’s that Davis was a “hard-core member” of the Communist Party and hated America and instilled those thoughts in Obama, Kincaid said. Obama also has gone on to surround himself with others with radical left views, Kincaid said.

“There are millions of black people who had just as bad an experience as him [Davis] who didn’t become anti-American Marxists. That’s the key point, isn’t it?” Loudon said.

The Facts: The Case For Davis.
Davis’s memoir, “Livin’ the Blues: Memoirs of a Black Journalist and Poet,” shows the evolution of his political views on segregation and economic inequality. He worked low-wage jobs until he started his career as a news reporter, covering politics and crime in Chicago and Atlanta. He became a political columnist for the Chicago Star, which had Marxist-Lenninist leanings and pro-labor views. Writings in his column, “Frank-ly Speaking,” showed he developed class-based ideologies that linked racism with classicism and fascism.

Davis never identifies himself as a Communist Party member in “Livin’ the Blues.” But he describes working with members, as long as they helped him achieve his goals. He had memberships, endorsements or affiliations with more than a dozen leftist groups, including the Chicago Civil Liberties Committee, CIO unions and the National Committee to Combat Anti-Semitism.

“I worked with all kinds of groups,” Davis wrote, “I made no distinction between those labeled Communist, Socialist or merely liberal. My sole criterion was this: Are you with me in my determination to wipe out white supremacy? Because I had some smattering of prestige as a writer and wielded some influence as an opinion maker in the black press at large, my active participation was welcomed.”

He was aware his associations had caught the attention of the FBI and the House Committee on Un-American Activities. He was amused by the FBI’s surveillance and was proud of it: “I would accept any resultant citation [by FBI or the committee] as an honor, for it would indicate I was beginning to upset the white power structure.”

When an FBI agent eventually interviewed him in Hawaii, Davis denied party membership. He wrote: “When they could find no evidence I was plotting to overthrow the government by force and violence, the Hoover gestapo turned to other tactics. … I owe the FBI an apology for causing them a needless waste of so much energy on me.”

Davis was a closet Communist at best, said John Edgar Tidwell, a University of Kansas professor who studies Davis’s writings. He was among many black intellectuals at the time who were exploring ways to dismantle Jim Crow laws and were attracted to groups that embraced social equality, redistribution of wealth and power, and integration, Tidwell said.

“He was not out there on the front lines carrying pickets and signs,” Tidwell said. “He wasn’t trying to overthrow the government at all. What he was seeking to do was intellectually find a way by which African Americans could be included into the mainstream of American life and culture.”

It is important to remember the U.S. political climate during the late 1930s through the early 1950s. The House Un-American Activities Committee and FBI were quick to label people and organizations with dissenting views as Communist. They were especially suspicious of people with pro-labor and civil-rights views, said Chris Brick, editor of George Washington University’s Eleanor Roosevelt Papers Project. Brick has studied the thousands of pages of FBI files on Eleanor Roosevelt, under suspicion for her political activism and her criticism of the House committee.

Davis and his experiences made an impression on Obama, as shown in “Dreams from My Father.” Davis “made the young man feel something deep and disorienting” about his identity, wrote David Remnick in “The Bridge: The Life and Rise of Barack Obama.” Obama’s anecdotes show he was intrigued by Davis’s experiences and insight. But the relationship was “neither constant nor lasting, certainly of no great ideological importance,” Remnick wrote.

Davis’s son, Mark, said he did not know his father had been involved with the Communist Party or that he had met Obama until he read about it years after his father died. So if Frank had had a father-son type of relationship with Obama, it is curious that Mark would never have heard about it.

“When I was growing up, I knew that my father had some radical history. But I did not know that he had joined the Communist Party,” Mark Davis said in a phone interview. “He did not in any respect try to indoctrinate me into any collectivist mindset.” And, he said, he doesn’t believe there was any indoctrination by osmosis for Obama.


The Pinocchio Test
It has been seven years since this assertion surfaced, and it continues to be perpetuated. Davis was indeed associated with the Communist Party, and the FBI identified him as a member. He was affiliated with more than a dozen other groups that were open to his views on social and racial inequality. He repeatedly showed his bitterness toward Jim Crow laws and wanted African Americans to have constitutional rights. He was an activist, but there is no evidence that Davis was a hard-core Communist who spied for Soviet leaders. He was critical of American society, but not America as a country.

Davis made an impression on Obama, as shown in his memoir. Obama mentions Davis several times in “Dreams from My Father” as someone who influenced his understanding of his black identity. But there is no evidence Obama was “raised” by Davis, or that Davis remained a close Communist mentor who advised him throughout his life. We carefully considered the facts underlying this assertion, and the evidence is slim. We may never definitively know one way or another, but it is time to put it to rest. (Update: Paul Kengor, author of “The Communist,” wrote a lengthy rebuttal of this fact check for The American Thinker.)

Conclusion: Three Pinocchios


Now then... back to discussing Donald Trump. whistle
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/01/15 08:02 AM

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2011/08/04/communist-party-usa-endorses-obama-democrats-for-2012/

The articles compiled by Davis nails Obama to the Communist wall. As usual, trying to disparage the messenger is your only defense.

However, the Google master that you are could have just as easily proven Davis correct.

“Sam Webb, chairman of the Communist Party USA, threw his support behind Obama’s re-election bid.”


Back to TRUMP, or we can continue on your tangent thread which was started to continue with your never ending tangents.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 09/01/15 08:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2011/08/04/communist-party-usa-endorses-obama-democrats-for-2012/

The articles compiled by Davis nails Obama to the Communist wall. As usual, trying to disparage the messenger is your only defense.

However, the Google master that you are could have just as easily proven Davis correct.

“Sam Webb, chairman of the Communist Party USA, threw his support behind Obama’s re-election bid.”


Back to TRUMP, or we can continue on your tangent thread which was started to continue with your never ending tangents.

You never saw me "disparage the messenger". Rather, I simply exposed the ridiculousness of the gross assumptions and false conclusions contained within the article you posted and pointed out your compulsive need to regularly turn the thread topic on it's head.

A "Tangent" by it's very definition.

Furthermore, It's not I who's on the defensive. I wasn't the one making error-ridden assertions. The fact that you feel the need to lash out with threats of infantile tantrums in the form of online harassment only confirms the point.

If you don't want people to take to pieces the ill-conceived content within your posts, then you may want to cease hijacking virtually every thread that comes along. "Brilliant!" crazy

Now, drop it.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/01/15 04:48 PM

As within the links you posted with racists supporting Trump, the articles themselves have Trump disassociated from them. From your own post link:

“I don’t need his endorsement,” Trump told Bloomberg TV of Duke’s praise. “I certainly wouldn’t want his endorsement. I don’t need anybody’s endorsement.”

Although he also told Bloomberg on Wednesday that he didn’t know anything about Duke, in 2000, Trump even cited Duke as a reason he would not run as the Reform Party candidate. “The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” he said at the time. “This is not company I wish to keep.”

My comparison to the Communist Party chairman supporting your messiah is quite comparable but understandably something you would wish to drop being that your Messiah has always followed Communism unlike Trump’s disassociation from racists. It is dropped.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 09/01/15 04:55 PM

The Trump may want to disassociate himself from neo nazi groups and other openly racist organizations, but the fact remains that they endorse him because his many of his views and proposals fall right in line with theirs.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 09/02/15 01:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
As within the links you posted with racists supporting Trump, the articles themselves have Trump disassociated from them. From your own post link:

“I don’t need his endorsement,” Trump told Bloomberg TV of Duke’s praise. “I certainly wouldn’t want his endorsement. I don’t need anybody’s endorsement.”

Although he also told Bloomberg on Wednesday that he didn’t know anything about Duke, in 2000, Trump even cited Duke as a reason he would not run as the Reform Party candidate. “The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” he said at the time. “This is not company I wish to keep.”

My comparison to the Communist Party chairman supporting your messiah is quite comparable but understandably something you would wish to drop being that your Messiah has always followed Communism unlike Trump’s disassociation from racists. It is dropped.


grin
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/02/15 01:47 PM

There's one thing that I can say about you, you're adamant and consistent about your stance on race but adversely, something tells me that you're one of the biggest hypocrites in your neighborhood and work place, afraid to state your real feelings publicly so due to having no backbone.I can respect Duke because he's verbal, you and trump on the other hand........ whistle shocked
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 09/03/15 05:04 PM



Posted by: Josephus

Re: Donald Trump - 09/03/15 11:08 PM

grin
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/04/15 11:22 AM

Donald is becoming a true Republican due to the fact that he has no real knowledge as to what's going on domestically or foreign.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/03/politics/d...witt/index.html
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 09/04/15 02:09 PM


Grump 2016! laugh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=100&v=yQyTpPu0gvc
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/04/15 02:50 PM

http://overpassesforamerica.com/?p=15138
NATIONAL NEWS

TWISTED SISTER FRONTMAN DEE SNYDER GIVES TRUMP FREE USE OF ‘WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT’ FOR CAMPAIGN
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 09/04/15 08:26 PM

Trump for President!
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/04/15 10:26 PM

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252661-trump-hits-30-percent-in-new-poll

Donald Trump has reached a new high in the race for the Republican presidential nomination.

According to a Monmouth University survey released on Thursday, Trump takes 30 percent support nationally, a four-point gain over the same survey from before the first GOP debate.

Ben Carson is a distant second place in the poll, taking 18 percent support. The retired neurosurgeon has risen sharply in the polls over the past month. He was at only 5 percent support in the same poll from early August.

The rest of the Republican field isn’t even in the same ballpark.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) take 8 percent support each, followed by Sen. Marco Rubio (Florida) at 5 percent, and former businesswoman Carly Fiorina and Mike Huckabee at 4 percent a piece.

Scott Walker is in freefall, falling into 8th place with only 3 percent support. The Wisconsin governor was in third place with 11 percent support in the same poll from before the first Republican debate.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/05/15 10:48 PM

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Rasmuss...kt_nbr=1hd5bacm

GOP presidential contender Donald Trump's edge with Republican voters is steadily ticking up, and now measures a formidable 66 percent, according to a new survey released Friday.

The Rasmussen Reports survey released Friday, shows the new number of Republicans who think it's likely Trump will be the party's nominee is up 7 points, from 59 percent a week ago, and up 10 points, from 56 percent, from two weeks ago.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/05/15 11:19 PM

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pres...B6kPUE.facebook

Poll: Trump beats Hillary head-to-head

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump leads Democrat Hillary Clinton head-to-head, according to a new poll released Friday.

The poll by SurveyUSA finds that matched up directly, Trump garners 45 percent to Clinton’s 40 percent.

In other head-to-head matchups, Trump beats out Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) by 44 percent to 40 percent; Vice President Joe Biden by 44 percent to 42 percent; and former Vice President Al Gore by 44 percent to 41 percent.

Trump’s surge past Clinton marks a dramatic turnaround in the polls.

A CNN/ORC sampling of national voters in late June — just days after Trump entered the race — found that 59 percent supported Clinton to 34 percent picking Trump in a head-to-head race.

The same poll taken in July saw Clinton at 57 percent to Trump at 38 percent. And a version taken in August had Clinton with 52 percent support and Trump with 43 percent.

Trump has seen his campaign’s popularity surge through the summer while Clinton’s has struggled with voter concerns over her transparency and trustworthiness as secretary of State.

The poll also found that 30 percent of respondents believe Trump will eventually be the Republican nominee, leading the field.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush came in second, with 20 percent saying they expect him to win the nomination. Following Bush in order were retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.).

The poll surveyed 1,000 adults across the nation Sept. 2-3, and it had a margin of error of 3.3 percent.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 09/06/15 09:14 AM


Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/09/15 08:15 AM

http://qpolitical.com/trump-just-released-some-tragic-news-and-nobody-saw-this-coming/

Polls have recently been released, and all indications point to Donald Trump not only winning the Republican nomination, but taking the White House as well.


Trump is garnering the support of minority groups, much to the surprise (and disdain) of every political pundit. For months we’ve heard the “Trump won’t appeal to the black and hispanic voter” record play over and over, but, according to polls, that is not the case.

Trump just released tragic news for the Democrats. Did someone die? NO. But this means that the Democrats can’t just parade Hillary around and expect to win.

In a USASurvey poll, Trump received 31% of the hispanic vote, and 25% of the black vote. To put that into perspective, a Republican candidate hasn’t posted these kinds of numbers since Ronald Reagan. Clearly, Trump’s message is resonating with Americans from all walks of life.

There’s no doubt that Trump has, for the moment, emerged as the candidate that conservatives want to support. His “politically-incorrect” way of speaking is a breath of fresh air to conservative Americans, as is his “tell it like it is” attitude.

Expect those in the media to do anything and everything in their power to derail the Trump train. The establishment doesn’t know how to handle someone who isn’t begging for campaign funds, and is interested in helping the people, rather than corporations.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/09/15 11:29 AM

Rich, I have no ideal where your poll numbers come from other than a pro White Conservative base. It's almost ludicrous to think that the Republican party known for it's racist acts and rhetoric would suddenly adopt itself to a man know for....guess what? his racist acts and rhetoric ......I almost burst out loud into a gut wrenching laughter on that one Rich. While at it, let go along with a poll at said that all women love to be disrespected by White Conservative men....what are the odd that this poll was generated by a White Conservative group?

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/study-impossible-for-gop-to-win-black-voters/article/2564414
Posted by: Josephus

Re: Donald Trump - 09/09/15 09:05 PM

LOL! To paraphrase Megyn Kelly... is this just something you tell yourself to make yourself feel better? smirk
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/10/15 05:53 PM

http://rickwells.us/donald-trumps-strong...gee-floodgates/

Sean Hannity asks, “I just want to get you on the record. Are you saying absolutely, people from Syria, the Middle East, 400 thousand men, those are men that we don’t know what their backgrounds are, where their hearts are. Should we allow any of them into this country, or any aid that we offer should be financial only?”

Mr. Trump replies, “Look, from a humanitarian standpoint I’d love to help but we have our own problems. We have so many problems that we have to solve. You have over there the Gulf States, tremendously wealthy. You have five groups of people, six groups, they’re not taking anybody. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, these are tremendously wealthy and powerful from the standpoint of money, they’re not taking anybody.”

He adds, “Russia’s not taking, nobody’s taking. We’re supposed to take, we have to straighten out our own problems. You have millions of people potentially. And if Obama would have gone across the line that he drew, the artificial line in the sand that he drew, you wouldn’t have this problem in the first place.”
Posted by: Josephus

Re: Donald Trump - 09/10/15 06:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://rickwells.us/donald-trumps-strong...gee-floodgates/

Sean Hannity asks, “I just want to get you on the record. Are you saying absolutely, people from Syria, the Middle East, 400 thousand men, those are men that we don’t know what their backgrounds are, where their hearts are. Should we allow any of them into this country, or any aid that we offer should be financial only?”

Mr. Trump replies, “Look, from a humanitarian standpoint I’d love to help but we have our own problems. We have so many problems that we have to solve. You have over there the Gulf States, tremendously wealthy. You have five groups of people, six groups, they’re not taking anybody. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, these are tremendously wealthy and powerful from the standpoint of money, they’re not taking anybody.”

He adds, “Russia’s not taking, nobody’s taking. We’re supposed to take, we have to straighten out our own problems. You have millions of people potentially. And if Obama would have gone across the line that he drew, the artificial line in the sand that he drew, you wouldn’t have this problem in the first place.”

Nobody? Wrong again... And why is Trump measuring what we should do by what the Gulf states do?

CNN
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/13/15 10:40 AM

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/09/13/r...the-game-251171

‘Rock star’ Trump steals the show at Iowa tailgate party: ‘Better than the game!’

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump is now taking over a constituency that opponent Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky thought was reserved for him — students at college campuses.

And he started with that most revered of activities — pre-game tailgating.

It took place Saturday at the Republican tent that was set up in the parking lot of the Iowa State football stadium in Ames before that day’s game with the University of Iowa.

Trump arrived about an hour late to deliver a short speech, and was enthusiastically greeted by the students as he made his way through the parking lot.

Even the Trump-hating New York Times had to admit the billionaire got “rock star” treatment.

“Donald, you rock!” one student shouted, the Gray Lady reported.

“Donald, I’m wearing your hat!” another announced after fighting his way through the throng to get to the candidate. “Shook his hand,” another told his friends in disbelief. “I shook his hand!”

“That was better than the game!” exclaimed another, according to Politico.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, a huge Midwestern football fan who not long ago was Iowa’s GOP presidential poll leader, was largely ignored.

As Walker spoke at the Republican tent, a group of students to the candidate’s left chanted, “We want Trump! We want Trump!”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/13/15 10:59 AM

A great article Rich. Thanks for highlighting the very premise that most Liberals have always maintain....the Republican party will support even a clown just for the sake of derailing the country.
Remember the clown elected in 2000 who in turn darn near defaulted the country? Question....why then does this same party insist on reinventing the same broken wheels?
Posted by: Josephus

Re: Donald Trump - 09/13/15 12:40 PM

Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 09/13/15 01:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Josephus

From a purely scientific perspective, I believe that a more accurate visual representation would show W. represented by a small tree-dwelling marsupial, and Trump as some sort of trilobite or perhaps a proto jelly fish.

But I digress. grin
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/14/15 04:31 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/p...bba2_story.html

Two non-politicians, businessman Donald Trump and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, dominate the contest for the Republican nomination, together accounting for more than half of the potential vote as support for traditional politicians continues to decline, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

In the contest for the Democratic nomination, Hillary Rodham Clinton has lost significant ground over the past two months, as she has struggled to manage the controversy over her use of a private e-mail server while secretary of state. She still leads the field of Democrats, but for the first time her support has dropped below 50 percent in Post-ABC surveys, with the biggest decline coming among white women.


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pres...d-in-california

Trump tops GOP field in California

https://today.yougov.com/news/2015/09/13/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-cbs-battleground-poll/

Sanders up big in New Hampshire and Iowa; Carson trails Trump

The first wave of the YouGov/CBS News Battleground Tracker polled primary and caucus voters from both parties in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina

Hillary Clinton’s deficit among likely Democratic primary voters in New Hampshire has grown to more than 20 points, while her lead over Bernie Sanders among likely caucus voters in Iowa has been reversed, according to the first wave of the YouGov/CBS News 2016 Battleground Tracker. Clinton remains ahead in South Carolina, where Joe Biden also makes a strong showing.

IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE

The new poll finds Sen. Sanders with 52% support among Democratic primary voters in New Hampshire, while former Secretary of State Clinton, long considered the front-runner for the 2016 Democratic nomination, receives 30%. Recent polls have shown Sanders’ lead growing in the Granite State, but this would be the first to show the Vermont Senator over 50%.

Possibly more worrying for the Clinton campaign is her performance in Iowa, where Sanders now leads by 10 points, with 43% to Clinton’s 33%.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/14/15 07:10 PM

Some individual stated that Mr. Trump had a large percentage of latino supporters in his previous posts, there's an old saying that states that when a person is willing lie, more than likely, they will commit the same infractions quite often.....wonder who that individual might have been? whistle


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/09/13/trump-dallas-march/72234336/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/14/politics/latinos-donald-trump-gop-poll-2016/index.html




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...kusaolp00000592
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/14/15 09:42 PM

I post the url’s next to the post . As I recall it was a fair percentage of GOP Latinos who supported Trump. You’re getting as bad as little Timmy.

The post is easy enough to find: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015...no-republicans/

BOOM – Univision Reluctantly Reports Donald Trump Leading With Latino Republicans….

In a Public Policy Polling survey, Trump leads with 34% of Hispanic voters, surpassing Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. What makes this poll even more delicious, is that it had to be reported on Univision:

Following which you Disagreed and then little Timmy went off on a full Google racist all Latino url links post. Obviously you’re both focused so much on race cards you fail to acknowledge there is support for party candidates other than the Communist Democrat Party.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/14/15 10:22 PM

The Last Refuge


ROTFLMBO Nice try! laugh

BTW Richie, the race card is the very reasons that the Republicans are doing sooooooo poorly with the minority support.....someone told them that monorities are thin skinned and a little racism should be the rememdy to cure them of that. LOL
Remember that you have long recorded trail of racism toward the Native Americans in your county before you migrated to this topic only in the last month or so. whistle






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Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/15/15 01:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
A great article Rich. Thanks for highlighting the very premise that most Liberals have always maintain....the Republican party will support even a clown just for the sake of derailing the country.
Remember the clown elected in 2000 who in turn darn near defaulted the country? Question....why then does this same party insist on reinventing the same broken wheels?


The latest polls, a entertainer and doctor are garnering 50% of the numbers,what does this say about the direction of the Conservative party and it's support?
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/15/15 10:34 PM

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/253702-trump-locks-up-gary-busey-endorsement

Gary Busey is throwing his support behind Donald Trump, saying the GOP presidential candidate “can change the country after the last eight years.”

The eccentric “Point Break” actor, currently a contestant on ABC’s “Dancing With the Stars,” told Fox News on Monday, “I know [Trump] personally. I know him professionally. He’s a great guy. He’s sharp. He’s fast.”

Busey, 71, starred in two seasons of “Celebrity Apprentice,” hosted by Trump. The Academy Award-nominee told Fox News he enjoyed “every day” that he worked with Trump on the NBC series.

The network announced Monday that Arnold Schwarzenegger would become the new “Celebrity Apprentice” host after Trump and NBC parted ways following the real estate mogul’s controversial comments on illegal immigration.

Busey told The Hill in 2011 that he was supporting then-Republican White House hopeful Newt Gingrich in the 2012 election. He later withdrew the endorsement.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 09/15/15 10:53 PM

Wow! Maybe he'll have Gary Hart's endorsement sewn up soon, too!

The fact remains that Trump has gained a lot of his support on a single issue -- immigration reform. And that apparently is the only position he has, at least according to his website, www.donaldjtrump.com

Trump is essentially devoid of real ideas (those which might be implemented in reality) unless he is granted dictatorial powers.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/16/15 04:15 PM

Candidates have always made promises they cannot keep without the cooperation of Congress. We'll see who is still in the lead come March after the primaries.

https://scorchedearthnews.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/debate-night-donald-trump-versus-the-world/

Tonight’s debate on CNN may end up being the most watched event the liberal cable channel has ever had. There is all kinds of intrigue and drama that is building. One of the moderators is the pencil neck geek policy wonk, Hugh Hewitt, who will likely ask Trump if he can name everybody in the Mozambique legislature. And after a lightning round of “do you know who’s in charge of this country that nobody cares about”, it will be the other candidates’ turn to give the Donald both barrels.

Rand Paul has a bug up his butt. Even Jeb Bush can’t understand the angst of baby Paul who looked like a kid getting his lunch money stolen at the first debate. Randy wants to be his father but never figured out a way to make a weak foreign policy and support for black lives matter jive in a republican primary. And with all these jokes about Trump’s hair being hurled, it’s funny that the perm boy has been left untouched.

Carly Fiorina wants to make her campaign about her face. And with good reason. It’s the face nobody will remember in a few months. Her poll numbers have been propped up by the media who declared her the winner in the junior varsity debate the last time around. Fiorina claims to loathe Mrs. Clinton but she is employing some of her tactics by constantly touting her accomplishments. These achievements include calling Islam one of the great religions in history (check the Bible on that, God has an answer) and running a great tech company into the ground, followed by a perp walk off the property. It’s puzzling to me why anyone would support this woman when you’ve got Jim Gilmour in the race.

Jeb Bush will of course use Karl Rove talking points all night long. He’ll try to show energy and passion explaining his Clinton lite ideas. It won’t fly. The electorate has moved on. But Bush has a lot of campaign cash and he hopes to be the last man standing. He literally looks small next to Trump.

Ben Carson is the media darling right now. He’s getting unlimited exposure. And he is constantly putting his foot in his mouth. Recently he said that Darren Wilson should not have used deadly force in a situation that does not need second guessing. His overtures to the likes of Al Sharpton should make every conservative thinker do a double take. Listening to Carson speak might actually be a substitute for Novocaine.

Scott Walker is on life support. He was the favorite for the “not another” Bush faction of the establishment. But clearly he has fumbled on every issue. Not to mention that back home his state is suffering through a huge budget deficit. Walker may just stick to his mealy mouthed solutions rather than going after Trump.

Chris Christie is happy to still be on the stage but he must be seething that Trump has taken all of the bombast out of the room. He may run interference for Trump by attacking Paul or by agreeing with Trump.

Ted Cruz will continue to be classy and diplomatic but his used car salesman meets lawyer persona turns off about 90% of female voters. Nobody talks like that. He may come to the Donald’s defense though because he is so ticked off at the establishment.

Marco Rubio is the wild card. He may be the one to have best one liner or the best jab back at Trump. When he isn’t drinking water bottles on camera he can certainly go toe to toe with anyone. But Mister gang of 8 has missed a lot of votes in the senate and he has been missing in action during most of this campaign. If Bush drops out he would be the establishment’s love child.

John Kasich could do okay. He’s a nice man. But he will not win a national campaign by being nice. And Johnny has done some things in his state that might make Barack Obama smile.

Mike Huckabee got some good media attention by glomming on to the Kim Davis situation. So some crazed evangelicals who want death row inmates pardoned might take a second look at Gomer. He can play the bass guitar.

For Trump to win the debate tonight, he just needs to be Trump. He needs to explain his ideas in sound byte language. He needs to retain his sense of humor and his alpha male status. All of which come naturally for the Donald. The establishment is desperate. This is their last chance to do real harm to Donald Trump on the debate stage. By the time the next debate rolls around there will be far fewer candidates vying for face time. It will be a different atmosphere where I am hopeful that the remaining candidates would focus on Clinton or Sanders. Sadly, this time around they will focus on their marching orders to take Trump out. And that is a shame. Because America is begging for someone to tell us how they’re going to fix this mess. Trump may use that as his ace in the hole. “You people keep attacking me, meanwhile the getaway car is out in front of the bank and you are berating the guy who owns the bank rather than going after the perpetrators”. If Trump can focus on issues he wins this and buries his competition.
Posted by: Barack Obama

Re: Donald Trump - 09/16/15 08:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
unless he is granted dictatorial powers.


Easy there son. I'm the only one with dictatorial powers
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 09/20/15 11:01 PM

Go Trump!
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/24/15 02:02 PM

http://www.news9.com/story/30091106/trump-leads-in-oklahoma-poll-followed-by-carson-fiorina
Trump Leads In Oklahoma Poll Followed By Carson, Fiorina

OKLAHOMA CITY -

The first look at Oklahoma Republicans' pick for President was released on Tuesday.

Just like the national polls, Donald Trump leads Oklahoma's first presidential poll with 30.8 percent. Ben Carson trails with 22.5 percent and Carly Fiorina has 8.3 percent.

Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush round out the top five with more than 6 percent each. All other candidates had single digits. Ten percent are undecided.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/24/15 02:15 PM

I find it very interesting that supposed intelligent Conservative voters support one man who is caustic, rude, loudmouthed, arrogant, vindictive and thin skinned...these are his redeeming qualities. from this moment on, any critics of Liberals should first of all carry a mirror at all times to get a perfect view of how a hypocrite looks when they open their mouths. Yet we all knew that you were exactly that from day one.....a hypocrite, one who criticizes smart Conservativess and Liberals while praising racist misogonists. Did you learn those virtues by fighting the orignal Americans?
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 09/24/15 08:39 PM

Go Trump!
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 09/24/15 11:09 PM

Yes, go, Trump, go.... back to reality TV game shows where you belong. Although Trump is very quick to toss around gratuitous insults, if offended or displeased with the way a question is phrased he threatens to sue or whines to the FCC. Is this how he would handle delicate foreign affairs -- with bluster and name calling?
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 09/26/15 09:39 AM

I don't watch reality tv game shows. You and Trump have something in common. You both involve yourselves in what other people say and do and then call them names when they don't conform to you.

He will handle foreign affairs like a business man and not just hand muslim terrorist supporting countries millions upon millions of dollars.

GoTrump!
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 09/26/15 11:35 AM

Burping another hateful opinion, as usual, eh Harley?
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 09/26/15 05:42 PM

Preview of the 2015 Macy's Thanksgiving Parade
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/28/15 04:29 PM

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/09/duck_dynasty_bobby_jindal.html

'Duck Dynasty' star, once a Bobby Jindal supporter, now says 'I like Trump'
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 09/28/15 04:59 PM

Gosh! A reality TV star supporting another reality TV star!
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/28/15 06:11 PM

http://powderedwigsociety.com/trump-tax-plan/

For the anti-Trump gang who have been complaining of no specifics, you are going to hate this! Donald Trump just released his specific tax plan
• by Thomas Madison
• September 28, 2015
TAX REFORM THAT WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
From donaldjtrump.com

The Goals Of Donald J. Trump’s Tax Plan
Too few Americans are working, too many jobs have been shipped overseas, and too many middle class families cannot make ends meet. This tax plan directly meets these challenges with four simple goals:

1. Tax relief for middle class Americans: In order to achieve the American dream, let people keep more money in their pockets and increase after-tax wages.

2. Simplify the tax code to reduce the headaches Americans face in preparing their taxes and let everyone keep more of their money.

3. Grow the American economy by discouraging corporate inversions, adding a huge number of new jobs, and making America globally competitive again.

4. Doesn’t add to our debt and deficit, which are already too large.

The Trump Tax Plan Achieves These Goals

1. If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.

2. All other Americans will get a simpler tax code with four brackets – 0%, 10%, 20% and 25% – instead of the current seven. This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II.

3. No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. This lower rate makes corporate inversions unnecessary by making America’s tax rate one of the best in the world.

4. No family will have to pay the death tax. You earned and saved that money for your family, not the government. You paid taxes on it when you earned it.

The Trump Tax Plan Is Revenue Neutral

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:

1. Reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich.

2. A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate, followed by an end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad.

3. Reducing or eliminating corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.

DETAILS OF DONALD J. TRUMP’S TAX PLAN click on the url for details
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/29/15 01:27 PM

https://www.tedcruz.org/news/ted-cruz-cl...al-power-index/
Ted Cruz Climbs to Top of This Week’s Fox News 2016 Presidential Power Index

Cruz #1 in Fox News’s Weekly Analysis of Candidates’ Ranking in 2016 Race

HOUSTON, Texas – Yesterday, in the weekly update of Fox News’s Presidential Power Index, Digital Politics editor Chris Stirewalt offered his analysis on America’s Newsroom with Gretchen Carlson for why Ted Cruz replaces Jeb Bush as this week’s number one pick to win the 2016 GOP Primary, citing Cruz’s strong positioning to compete for “the long haul” against the party’s establishment candidate
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/29/15 01:33 PM

http://powderedwigsociety.com/trump-predicted-to-win-the-election/

Donald Trump predicted to win the GOP nomination AND the general election for President of the United States!

By Thomas Madison

Donald Trump will be inaugurated President of the United States on January 20, 2017.

Great news if you are a Trump fan…. and I am! The Donald has not only energized the conservative base, dominating the GOP race for the nomination, but is also polling remarkably well among blacks and Latinos, garnering 31% among Latinos and 25% among blacks. John McCain and Mitt Romney captured only a meager four and six percent of the black vote in 2008 and 2012, respectively.

Even though I no longer watch Fox News, I can hear their wailing and moaning and gnashing of teeth from Hawaii.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 09/29/15 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://powderedwigsociety.com/trump-predicted-to-win-the-election/

Donald Trump predicted to win the GOP nomination AND the general election for President of the United States!

By Thomas Madison

Donald Trump will be inaugurated President of the United States on January 20, 2017.
and the inauguration ceremony will feature a formation of flying pigs performing an aerial show over the capitol.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/29/15 08:44 PM

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articl...iness-candidate

Billionaire Icahn Endorses Donald Trump as 'Business' Candidate

Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/29/15 08:45 PM

http://rightwingnews.com/republicans/tru...dia-hit-squads/
Trump Expands Lead, Gets Even More Popular Despite Critics and Media Hit Squads
27Sep, 2015by Terresa Monroe-Hamilton

So much for that dishonest CNN poll that Fox News was touting. Zogby’s latest poll is out showing Trump expanding his lead by 2 percentage points from 31% to 33%, with Ben Carson 20 points behind him. Ben Carson has dropped 3 points. They just keep hoping and hoping that Trump will pan out and fade away. Not happening folks. They don’t know Donald Trump very well. Trump is gathering the brightest and best for his various teams. He’s tapping people that the elitists snubbed who are tops in their fields. He’s not going to reveal his policies and plans until he’s ready to do so.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/29/15 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
and the inauguration ceremony will feature a formation of flying pigs performing an aerial show over the capitol.
I hope so. That might be worth the drive to D.C.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/29/15 09:51 PM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...ocus_group.html

Frank Luntz: Trump Is First Person To Reach 100 In A Focus Group
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/29/15 10:27 PM

http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-fact-check-math-in-trumps-tax-plan-doesnt-always-add-up-2015-9

Watching Bill Oreiley ask Trump basic questions concerning his tax code.....no surprise, the clown couldn't respond.
(in a Governor Rick Perry voice) oooppps!!!
crazy
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/29/15 10:38 PM

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/29/poll-numbers-sliding-donald-trump-slithers-fox-news.html
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 09/30/15 01:20 PM

Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 09/30/15 01:22 PM

Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/30/15 04:03 PM

Well, the TN primary is March 1 and NY primary is April 16
But TN is open and NY is closed.

So unless you’re registered Republican, which I doubt, your choice will be among the following 18 candidates: http://2016.democratic-candidates.org/

So sorry that you cannot vote against Trump. LOL smile
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/30/15 04:24 PM

ROTFLMBO, not voting for him is just as pleasant.
I can see why you're voting Trump......"plenty of dollars but no sense" similar to your township's fight against the Native Americans. laugh
Posted by: Barack Obama

Re: Donald Trump - 09/30/15 08:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
and the inauguration ceremony will feature a formation of flying pigs performing an aerial show over the capitol.


Hold on one minute there son. I thought you were afraid of heights.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 09/30/15 09:33 PM

I never said I was voting for Trump. In fact in my third post I said he was not my first or second choice. I merely pointed out that you don’t have the option to vote against him whereas I have a choice to vote in either primary. And my old township of Springport never had any battle with the N.A.'s.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 09/30/15 09:55 PM

I think your confusion is expanded based on 2 statements, why make a big deal on the Seneca County NA issue if your "home port" is Springport? secondly, why make big efforts to exploit the ignorance of Donald Trump here if he's not your first choice? funny how your own ignorance fails to detail that actual "first choice" whistle
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/01/15 01:08 PM

The NA issue is Federal Indian Policy which includes the whole country. As I stated, the third post in this thread says my first choice is Cruz and second choice Huckabee. At least I have realistic choices as opposed to voting for the best Communist. Your inability to connect dots is almost as bad as Timbo’s, who appears to mysteriously be absent again. But I see he was online a week ago.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/01/15 01:24 PM

ROTFLMBO, I see that your constant frustrations explains your attempted insult as well as the inability to explain your stance on the Native American issues in the county while as you've stated the issue is a Federal agenda, care to elaborate while I laugh....or better yet...it may be easier for YOU to connect the dots. laugh
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/01/15 01:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
The NA issue is Federal Indian Policy which includes the whole country. As I stated, the third post in this thread says my first choice is Cruz and second choice Huckabee. At least I have realistic choices as opposed to voting for the best Communist. Your inability to connect dots is almost as bad as Timbo’s, who appears to mysteriously be absent again. But I see he was online a week ago.
Since you're calling some candidates Communists, shouldn't you be referring to your favorites as Nazis, Rich?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/01/15 01:55 PM

http://www.talonmarks.com/opinion/2015/0...s-donald-trump/
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/02/15 08:18 AM

Your url of some liberal comparing Trump to Hitler is a joke. There are more comparisons between Hitler & Obama.

BUT there is help for you yet. Some Black women have a web site up so you can get off the plantation and register Republican to vote for Trump.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/black-women-issue-challenge-ditch-democrat-plantation-for-trump/

Black women issue challenge: ‘Ditch Democrat plantation’ for Trump
OCTOBER 1, 2015
BY OLAF EKBERG

“Stump for Trump” YouTube stars Lynnette Hardaway and Rochelle Richards have launched a new website that makes it easy for Democrats to change their party registration to vote for Donald Trump in the primaries.
The duo has created DitchandSwitchNow.com, which points readers to a list of states that hold closed primaries, and links to the respective state elections officer with instructions on how to change party affiliation.
“We’re ditching the media bias and the media trickery. We want you to ditch that Democrat plantation — and ditch all of the Democrats — and we want to you switch your party to Republican so that you can vote for Donald Trump in the primary,” Hardaway says in their latest video.

Hardaway adds, “We wouldn’t be talking about none of this here but the media and all the pundits and the establishment want to start a movement against Trump, it looks like the silent majority is about to start a movement on them.”

Hardaway and Richards shot to YouTube stardom when the launched a series of videos promoting Donald Trump’s candidacy for president. One of their first videos, in which they criticized Megyn Kelly for her treatment of Trump during the first Republican presidential debate, to date has been viewed over 1.4 million times.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/02/15 08:47 AM

Rich, I love ya man, you're a "master" at going irrelevent to any given subject, how you get from Donald trump to Black Women exposes that irrelevency as well as your uphill effort in futility to actually win a debate. Nice try though whistle
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/03/15 08:18 AM

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/30/carl-icahn-no-brainer-to-elect-trump-president.html

Carl Icahn: 'No-brainer' to elect Trump president
Jacob Pramuk | @jacobpramuk
Wednesday, 30 Sep 2015 | 1:46 PM ETCNBC.com

Activist investor Carl Icahn doubled down on his support for his friend and presidential candidate Donald Trump on Wednesday.

Icahn contended that electing the controversial billionaire businessman would be a "no-brainer" for American voters. He echoed the anti-establishment sentiment that took Trump to the top of the polling for the Republican presidential nomination this summer.

"I think he has a chance. He's sending a message to the middle class," Icahn said on CNBC's "Fast Money: Halftime Report." "I don't know why you wouldn't vote for someone with that message."

Trump currently leads the GOP field for the 2016 nomination in most national polls, seeing a meteoric rise in recent months while portraying himself as an outsider from politics and defender of the middle class. He has received backlash for comments on immigration and women's issues as well as a lack of specific policy proposals.

Read MoreTrump picks a new fight, this time with Forbes

Icahn defended Trump, saying he is a "very open-minded guy" who listens to input. He also touted Trump's appeal to conservative voters, stressing that he supports limited government more than other Republican candidates.

Icahn added that he believes Trump has the background to take on business interests and the pay gap between chief executives and their workers.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/03/15 10:13 AM

He's right. It's a "no brainer." Only someone with no brain would put an arrogant boorish reality TV personality in charge of the United States.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/03/15 10:57 AM

We thought that the Hispanics loved him?


http://news.yahoo.com/trump-pulls-event-us-hispanic-chamber-195243295.html
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/07/15 04:32 PM

http://trumpstump2016.com/2015/10/the-funny-thing-about-trumps-slump/

Oct 7, 2015 TheDavid

To hear the media, Donald Trump’s candidacy is in crash and burn mode. It reached its pinnacle before the second Republican debate and is now plummeting ever downward, toward certain demise. “Look!” They say. “His numbers have declined. It’s the end. When will he give up his campaign?”

The funny thing, though, is that the same thing could be said about Ben Carson. And Carly Fiorina. Jeb Bush has slumped. In fact, *Every* single candidate has had a slump since the debate, except Marco Rubio, who has only climbed in the past few weeks, but whose numbers are still far below those he had back in April.

If you look at Trump’s numbers in the Real Clear Politics graph, the most important thing to observe and note is that he has held a significant lead over every single candidate since skyrocketing to the top in July. Since the second debate, Ben Carson has emerged as the only rival to come close, but he’s seen a similar dip in ratings in recent weeks too.

Third place in the race is a similar story. Fiorina had a huge jump after the second debate, but her numbers have been sliding since. Rubio, who briefly sat in second place in the race (back in June), had been sliding since, and got a bounce after the second debate, leapfrogging over Bush for 4th place.

And how about Bush? Though he once led this race, he has been slipping since July, and has seen no improvement in his numbers. He now sits in 5 place, behind Trump, Carson, Carly and Rubio.

So, what do you call it when all the candidates are slumping? Nothing. Trump’s still winning. Deal with it.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/07/15 05:24 PM

http://www.yesimright.com/when-they-said-theres-no-way-he-will-win-trump-left-them-speechless/

When They Said “There’s No Way He Will Win”, Trump Left Them SPEECHLESS!

As the saying goes – you just can’t keep a good man down, and Donald Trump is perhaps the best one that we have (running for President, that is.)

In a video interview with CNN, Trump lays out in great detail his views on gun control, details on his immigration policies, and how he would handle ISIS and Syria, something at which the current administration has obviously failed.

Many are calling this his greatest interview ever. Check it out, you have to see it to believe it: (click on url to see video.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/07/15 06:25 PM

OK, I watched it, and I have to agree you have to see it to believe it. One part really stood out -- when Trump said that someone is always going to slip through the cracks, a highly intelligent person who is really a wacko. He's a prime example.

He seems to agree with Obama's cautious approach in Syria, and would not send any troops or confront the Russians, yet he describes that as a failure of leadership even though he would do the same thing.

On guns, he fantasizes that if more people were carrying guns tragedies like the recent mass shooting in Oregon wouldn't happen because the would be shooter would be stopped. He assumes that the average citizen would be able to react like the fictional heroes in action movies, always hit the target and never show the slightest hesitation. In reality, even trained police officers miss, hit the wrong person, even in training. And few people ever go through the "shoot/don't shoot" training that cops do.

In short, the vid is just more bluster and BS about how the world would be under his "leadership," assuming of course that just telling people what to do is actually leadership.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 10/09/15 01:42 PM

Go Trump!
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/12/15 02:28 PM

http://trumpstump2016.com/2015/10/shock-...r-donald-trump/

70% of Republicans Would Support Front-Runner Donald Trump

The lead hasn’t changed in the new CBS poll out today: Donald Trump still leads the field of Republican candidates for President. Ben Carson still trails by about 6 points in second place. Every other candidate languishes at single digit numbers.

What is more surprising, is that a huge number of Republican voters are warming to the idea of Trump being their candidate in the general election in November 2016. An overwhelming 70% said they would vote for Trump if he is the candidate when the big dance comes.

According to CBS, “Trump continues to be viewed as the most electable candidate in a general election. Thirty-five percent say Trump has the best chance of winning in November 2016, followed by Ben Carson (18 percent).”

Trump is also driving public interest in the National Election. Seven in 10 voters say they are interested in this election, including majorities of Republicans, Democrats and independents. According to an October 2011 Pew Poll, just 40% of voters described the presidential campaign as interesting.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/12/15 02:56 PM

ROTFLMBO, it's obviously clear based on the turn of events, Republicans have an self esteem issue and their expectations are at an all time low. Just think, a circus like atmosphere follows Trump while the doctor educates himself on domestic and global affairs by means of Google. Both are leading the pack.....I'm truley embarrassed for our country in regard to this new form of politics coming from the Conservatives. A new candidate just threw their hat in the ring for speaker of the house.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/12/15 06:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://trumpstump2016.com/2015/10/shock-...r-donald-trump/

70% of Republicans Would Support Front-Runner Donald Trump

The lead hasn’t changed in the new CBS poll out today: Donald Trump still leads the field of Republican candidates for President. Ben Carson still trails by about 6 points in second place. Every other candidate languishes at single digit numbers.

What is more surprising, is that a huge number of Republican voters are warming to the idea of Trump being their candidate in the general election in November 2016. An overwhelming 70% said they would vote for Trump if he is the candidate when the big dance comes.

According to CBS, “Trump continues to be viewed as the most electable candidate in a general election. Thirty-five percent say Trump has the best chance of winning in November 2016, followed by Ben Carson (18 percent).”

Trump is also driving public interest in the National Election. Seven in 10 voters say they are interested in this election, including majorities of Republicans, Democrats and independents. According to an October 2011 Pew Poll, just 40% of voters described the presidential campaign as interesting.

Interesting numbers, but when one considers that there are more people who consider themselves democrats than those who consider themselves republicans, and if you're only pulling 70% of the smaller group it doesn't bode well for republican presidential hopefuls. Once people start to realize that "I'll build the biggest/best/strongest/fastest/prettiest/tallest (pick a superlative) _______" is a statement unsupported by an specifics, the hot air may start to come out of the Trump balloon.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/12/15 09:37 PM

Cruz Control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og11z4NMWzE

The percentages fluctuate, but in 2013 it appears the Democrats have about 31% of the registered voters (down from 47%); the Republicans have 25% (down from 41%) and Independents are at 42% (up from 16%)

Don’t bet on winning just because you’re a Democrat. If anybody should be embarrassed it’s not the Republicans.

Yes, there is a battle for Speaker of the House because the RINO’s are being forced out and replacing Boehner with McCarthy would have been crazy.

As for specifics, all anyone has to do is enforce existing laws and the Constitution. Ahh yes, the Huffington Post version: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/donald-trump-president_n_7595848.html Those 19 points sound specific enough to me.

But let’s see who is left standing eight months from now. Ahh, don’t forget to watch the Communist debates Hillary Clinton will be the one to watch as she faces off against candidates Bernie Sanders, Martin O’Malley, Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee on Wednesday night. CNN reports that Vice President Joe Biden will be able to join the debate if he enters the 2016 presidential races as late as October 13, the day of the first debate.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/12/15 10:14 PM

Rich, do you have any numbers for the Black support for Carson or Trumps? Therein lies your problem, 2 Republicans, one who can't even garner single digit 1% Black votes and the other, possibly 6 %. Apparently you've failed in past acknowledgement of how Obama won......twice. whistle
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/13/15 07:42 PM

Not really. Obama won twice because the Republican’s ran losers against him and the RNC was determined to run Jeb Bush this time but they faced tremendous backlash. I didn’t vote for McCain or Romney and neither did many other Republicans.

But it appears that the DNC seems to be playing the same game. The Democratic party is rigging tonight’s debate — and the entire debate schedule — to ensure the “inevitable” victory of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, according to candidate and former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 10/13/15 07:56 PM

Go Trump!
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/13/15 07:57 PM

Irrespective of your stance rich, one major factor will remains over the next several decades...the minority vote will stays in the Democratic aisle until racist parties decide to treat women and minority with so degree of respect. Until that time, every Republican will get little support from those individuals. Until you figure how to garner the vote of Blacks, Hispanics,poor and Women, the Republicans will come up short.

Addendum, as noted from our forum racist Mr. cwjga, several Million like him is just enough to make a Democrat happy the day after the election. whistle
Posted by: Barack Obama

Re: Donald Trump - 10/13/15 10:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
there are more people who consider themselves democrats than those who consider themselves republicans

I wonder what the numbers are when you don't count dead people whistle
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 08:24 AM

Better yet what would be the numbers if the Republicans had their way, the attempts to hinder voting, particularly in the inner cities with high concentration of Black voters. whistle
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 09:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Barack Obama
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
there are more people who consider themselves democrats than those who consider themselves republicans

I wonder what the numbers are when you don't count dead people whistle


laugh
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 10:02 AM

ROTFLMBO, a narrative expressed by the Conservatives for the last two election. We lost due to the fact ______________________ fill in the blank. Most liberals knows the real facts and sought to help help the Republicans out by offering the 3 or 4 isolated incidents in the nation yet they can't cite those hundred or thousands they claim to know. Wonder how many voters the GOP failed to acknowledge in the last 4 years but will feel the anger when those voter check the Democratic lever at the polls? whistle
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 10:06 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: Barack Obama
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
there are more people who consider themselves democrats than those who consider themselves republicans

I wonder what the numbers are when you don't count dead people whistle


laugh


laugh laugh
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 10:10 AM

ROTFLMBO, a double smiley icon makes you doubly ignorant, care to go for a triple? Trifling, irrelevant ,insignificant and headed toward going off topic once again.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 10:20 AM

Why do we have 2 individuals with no political experience leading the Republican polls? It's rather sad that the bar has been set so low, that a turtle can get over it.We get to see how the Republicans can destroy themselves and a country unassisted and the disconcerting factor, they never learn anything from their dysfunctions during the Bush era.

GO TRUMP!!!!!!




http://time.com/money/3923629/donald-trump-name-business-failures/

Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 10:22 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: Barack Obama
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
there are more people who consider themselves democrats than those who consider themselves republicans

I wonder what the numbers are when you don't count dead people whistle


laugh


laugh laugh laugh laugh
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 10:28 AM

Thanks for the confirmation, Republican supporters are trapped in a vacuum with the inability to think progressively and displaying some semblance of having a mentality equal to that of a 2nd grader. Once again, thank you for your mature contribution that's giving the Democrat the lead.


GO TRUMP!!!!(hint) need a road map to get back to the subject of one dysfunctional GOP candidate? or would you rather stay on the subject of one dysfunctional GOP supporter?
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 11:06 AM

Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 11:07 AM

Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 11:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Barack Obama
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
there are more people who consider themselves democrats than those who consider themselves republicans

I wonder what the numbers are when you don't count dead people whistle


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 11:23 AM


The only pertinent numbers involve the margin of victory for our democratic president in 2016. wink
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 12:06 PM

You just revealed a key aspect to the Republican's behavior, if they can't win and have things their way, throw big tantrums by attempting to ruin anything related to the Democratic success.
The unique situation here is the fact that the Democrats have no need to reciprocate in the same manner due to the fact that the Republicans are destroying themselves through no Democratic intervention whatsoever.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 02:15 PM

laugh laugh laugh

Hillary Trails All Republicans, Remains Strong Democratic Favorite
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 02:40 PM

laugh

Were you one of sheeples that took a conservative web site for it's word a few years ago? Well it's easy to identify certain people like yourself needing to believe anything coming from the cesspool arena.



http://townhall.com/columnists/wayneally...slide/page/full


Now for the actual numbers.


Nominee Barack Obama Mitt Romney
Party Democratic Republican
Home state Illinois Massachusetts
Running mate Joe Biden Paul Ryan
Electoral vote 332 206
States carried 26 + DC 24
Popular vote 65,915,796 60,933,500
Percentage 51.1% 47.2%





http://www.publiceye.org/lnk_antidem.html
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 03:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
laugh

Were you one of sheeples that took a conservative web site for it's word a few years ago? Well it's easy to identify certain people like yourself needing to believe anything coming from the cesspool arena.



http://townhall.com/columnists/wayneally...slide/page/full


Now for the actual numbers.


Nominee Barack Obama Mitt Romney
Party Democratic Republican
Home state Illinois Massachusetts
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Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 03:56 PM

Well, it’s nice that Perla knows what Trump’s plans are. She’ll probably be one of those deported and it’s understandable why she would resort to desperate measures.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 04:24 PM

Well, broad brushing a party based on the opinions of a few hardly holds water. Both parties have been responsible for the situation this country is in. People are people and we are all (except the illegal immigrants) Americans.

On the census I always write ”human”.

Not so strangely when the Black Lives Matter supporter filed a question to the Communist candidates asking if black or all lives matter, they sucked right up to him.

Race or color shouldn’t even be an issue. All people should be treated equally under the law.

I know they aren’t but if one race or color commits more crimes, there will be more of them in jail.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 04:40 PM

Rich, every time you post,you make my day. Based on your postings which you have the time to review, you're usually one sided and adamant in regard to your stances but when facts are presented which makes your case baseless, you then turn to a narrative of both parties being at fault. No sir, it doesn't wash. A little advice, when presenting your position, please get all your facts together first of all and remember that immediate offerings without the benefit of ascertaining truth gives the opposing poster a big advantage because they now have time to research and refute, adverse to responding in an baseless manner. Nice try though.
BTW, I came to this forum a few years back and relegate myself strictly to the County topic back then, guess who made the loudest noise in regard to Native American issues?...yep you, don't embarrass yourself like that now.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 06:32 PM

I'm always glad to make your day.

http://trumpstump2016.com/2015/10/stunning-poll-results-trump-near-50/

STUNNING POLL RESULTS: TRUMP NEAR 50%
Oct 13, 2015
TheDavid

Stunning poll results today: Morning Consult’s newest poll puts Donald Trump at a near majority — and sure primary win — with 48% support when first-and-second choice votes are counted. Ben Carson came in second place, 11 points back at just 37%. No other candidate came within 25 points.

Jeb Bush had just 23% of first and second choice votes. Upstart Marco Rubio scored a paltry 13%. Of the 2002 voters who were surveyed, only 10 voted for LIndsey Graham. Nine supported George Pataki, giving both of them a statistical 0% of the vote.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 06:42 PM

Somewhere, somehow you're getting this impression that I really want to talk to you, in reality, I don't do hypocrites too well Rich. I can care more or less what trump is doing seeing that I do nothing to follow his progress or ratings. It's very immature and inconsiderate of you to offer irrelevant information to me that makes your day, of course we can see that it's obvious that small things "floats your boat" which alludes to possibly a small mind, thus the reason for the Trump excitement. grin
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 10/14/15 07:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Rich, every time you post,you make my day. Based on your postings which you have the time to review, you're usually one sided and adamant in regard to your stances but when facts are presented which makes your case baseless, you then turn to a narrative of both parties being at fault. No sir, it doesn't wash. A little advice, when presenting your position, please get all your facts together first of all and remember that immediate offerings without the benefit of ascertaining truth gives the opposing poster a big advantage because they now have time to research and refute, adverse to responding in an baseless manner. Nice try though.
BTW, I came to this forum a few years back and relegate myself strictly to the County topic back then, guess who made the loudest noise in regard to Native American issues?...yep you, don't embarrass yourself like that now.

Rich is a dedicated devotee of Wisner Kinne, the virulent anti-Indian Ovid farmer and founder of the xenophobic Seneca County Liberation Organization. Embarrassment has never been an issue for this good ol' boy.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 10/15/15 10:00 AM

Trump was right. That during the debate the candidates talked about more handouts to illegals but absolutely nothing for our veterans. Veterans before illegals.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/15/15 11:55 AM

You obviously weren't paying attention... increased spending for veterans was mentioned several times as well as reform which would allow veterans who live more than 40 miles from a VA medical center to seek treatment at local hospitals.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/15/15 12:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Rich, every time you post,you make my day. Based on your postings which you have the time to review, you're usually one sided and adamant in regard to your stances but when facts are presented which makes your case baseless, you then turn to a narrative of both parties being at fault. No sir, it doesn't wash. A little advice, when presenting your position, please get all your facts together first of all and remember that immediate offerings without the benefit of ascertaining truth gives the opposing poster a big advantage because they now have time to research and refute, adverse to responding in an baseless manner. Nice try though.
BTW, I came to this forum a few years back and relegate myself strictly to the County topic back then, guess who made the loudest noise in regard to Native American issues?...yep you, don't embarrass yourself like that now.
Rich is a dedicated devotee of Wisner Kinne, the virulent anti-Indian Ovid farmer and founder of the xenophobic Seneca County Liberation Organization. Embarrassment has never been an issue for this good ol' boy.
Wow. You still don't understand? You think we should welcome these trouble makers with open arms?

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posted 9/24/15.

By DAVID L. SHAW
dshaw@fltimes.com

WATERLOO — The U.S. Department of Justice in Washington can expect a phone call — possibly today — from Seneca County Attorney Frank Fisher.

The county Board of Supervisors’ Indian Affairs Committee directed Fisher to ask the Justice Department for help in the aftermath of the Sept. 12 shooting at a Cayuga Indian Nation-owned property in Varick. Two people were wounded.The incident was a major topic of concern at Tuesday’s committee meeting.

“It’s a powder keg waiting to explode,” committee chairman Bob Shipley of Waterloo proclaimed. “We can’t just sit back and wait.We’ve got to take action.”

The committee suggested contacting the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to investigate the prevalence of weapons among Seneca Falls-based Nation members. “It was just July 21 when the Cayugas announced their peace and mediation agreement between the two factions,” Shipley said, “but it’s been nothing but unrest since then. Varick incident was the worst yet, and now we wonder what’s next.”

Fisher said the shooting was discussed at Monday’s New York Association of Counties Committee on Native American Affairs and Gaming. “The Bureau of Indian Affairs does not understand that the faction leaders do not have control over individuals in their factions,” Fisher said. He said the BIA has told the Cayugas there will be no consideration of their request to put 129 acres of tribal-owned land into federal trust “as long as things like this are going on.”

Shipley stated that the BIA hasn’t been helpful, prompting him to suggest that Fisher be directed to call the Justice Department to explain the latest escalation of violence. Shipley added that ens. Charles Schumer and Kirstin Gillibrand, along with Congressman Tom Reed, will be asked to advocate for the county.

Committee member Keith Kubasik of Waterloo said he has seen tribal members walking around with baseball bats.it gives a bad impression to tourists. It could scare them away just when we’re trying to attract them here.”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/15/15 12:09 PM

Kyle, we know that you mean well, but this forum isn't about a Seneca County Native American situation. Your problem lies in the fact that you're consumed with something which you've attempted to mesh into every topic irrespective of the topic....once again, the topic is Donald Trump, make some effort to stay in the vein.
Teonan made a statement in jest and you missed the message and ran with anything else but.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/15/15 12:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Kyle, we know that you mean well, but this forum isn't about a Seneca County Native American situation. Your problem lies in the fact that you're consumed with something which you've attempted to mesh into every topic irrespective of the topic....once again, the topic is Donald Trump, make some effort to stay in the vein.
Teonan made a statement in jest and you missed the message and ran with anything else but.
I think this justifies a response. I didn't see any jest.
Originally Posted By: Teonan
the virulent anti-Indian Ovid farmer
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/15/15 01:16 PM

There is no justification for true ignorance, the topic is still Donald Trump which apparently you can recognize. Ignorance sometime makes one obstinate to the point of having the last say even when you're wrong....in your case, you're totally off topic and dead wrong to attempt to derail the subject with your own hatred and selfish agendas. SMH
Act as if you have some decency and common sense, you'll be amazed at the reduction of turmoil it produces. wink
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/15/15 01:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Ignorance sometime makes one obstinate to the point of having the last say even when you're wrong....in your case, you're totally off topic and dead wrong to attempt to derail the subject with your own hatred and selfish agendas
Oh so now I am dead wrong? I am not trying to derail anything but when a respected Seneca County citizen is said to be anti-Indian I am going to respond. Trump is a total jerk. I think we can agree on that.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/15/15 01:52 PM

When a friend, pal, buddy, associate or otherwise keeps up the same non related creed...the emphasis...non related, you do the math as to what that makes you?

GO TRUMP laugh
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 10/15/15 03:17 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Ignorance sometime makes one obstinate to the point of having the last say even when you're wrong....in your case, you're totally off topic and dead wrong to attempt to derail the subject with your own hatred and selfish agendas
Oh so now I am dead wrong? I am not trying to derail anything but when a respected Seneca County citizen is said to be anti-Indian I am going to respond. Trump is a total jerk. I think we can agree on that.


What say a round of 'Sort the Jerks' Kyle.

Which 1 of the 6 following fear-mongering comments directed toward indigenous people of the Americas was made by Donald Trump? (Hint: the other 5 were made by "a respected Seneca County citizen"). Good luck! wink

"No Indians in OUR schools!"
"Nits make lice."
"Commie-led Cayugas."
"Indians...surprise has always been their dirtiest tactic."
"Supporters of FBI-killing Indian Leonard Peltier are running through our area. Bolt your doors."
"They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/15/15 03:52 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
“It’s a powder keg waiting to explode,” committee chairman Bob Shipley of Waterloo proclaimed. “We can’t just sit back and wait.We’ve got to take action.”

“It was just July 21 when the Cayugas announced their peace and mediation agreement between the two factions,” Shipley said, “but it’s been nothing but unrest since then. Varick incident was the worst yet, and now we wonder what’s next.”

Committee member Keith Kubasik of Waterloo said he has seen tribal members walking around with baseball bats.it gives a bad impression to tourists. It could scare them away just when we’re trying to attract them here.”
Seneca County elected officials a few weeks ago.
Posted by: Barack Obama

Re: Donald Trump - 10/15/15 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Better yet(,) what would be the numbers what would the numbers be if the Republicans had their way, the given their attempts to hinder voting, particularly in the inner cities(,) with high concentration of Black voters. whistle


FIFY whistle
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 06:42 AM

Once again, our premise is confirmed, Ignorant White men wanting to have the last say, some things haven't changed in the last 200 years. Thank God for the progressive Whites unlike yourself laugh laugh laugh
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 08:45 AM

Thank god for the progressive whites like myself. When Trump first started I thought he was hilarious. Now the amount of support he is getting scares me. He would think he could say to Congress and the Supreme Court you are fired and they would be gone. I am concerned he could become America's version of Hitler. frown
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 08:52 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: kyle585
“It’s a powder keg waiting to explode,” committee chairman Bob Shipley of Waterloo proclaimed. “We can’t just sit back and wait.We’ve got to take action.”

“It was just July 21 when the Cayugas announced their peace and mediation agreement between the two factions,” Shipley said, “but it’s been nothing but unrest since then. Varick incident was the worst yet, and now we wonder what’s next.”

Committee member Keith Kubasik of Waterloo said he has seen tribal members walking around with baseball bats.it gives a bad impression to tourists. It could scare them away just when we’re trying to attract them here.”
Seneca County elected officials a few weeks ago.
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Once again, our premise is confirmed, Ignorant White men wanting to have the last say,
Are Shipley and Kubasik ignorant white men? I think they are just trying to protect the good citizens of Seneca County.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 09:19 AM

We have several scenario here Kyle, one: Shipley and Kubasik are I take it local Seneca politicians? two: correlate those individuals with our national Democratic debate three: Correlate Seneca County Indian affairs with the Democratic debate
four: Irrespective of those two or for that matter, yourself being great citizens, how does that correlate with a Democratic debate? lastly, if you even remotely make any attempts at making the correlations, that will possibly still make you an upstanding citizen who is in need of intervention of some type if reality can't push through your present mind set.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 09:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
We have several scenario here Kyle, one: Shipley and Kubasik are I take it local Seneca politicians? two: correlate those individuals with our national Democratic debate three: Correlate Seneca County Indian affairs with the Democratic debate
four: Irrespective of those two or for that matter, yourself being great citizens, how does that correlate with a Democratic debate? lastly, if you even remotely make any attempts at making the correlations, that will possibly still make you an upstanding citizen who is in need of intervention of some type if reality can't push through your present mind set.
Shipley and Kubasik are Waterloo supervisors elected by the voters of the town of Waterloo. Their actions were supported by all 14 members of the Seneca County Board of Supervisors from all 10 county towns.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 09:38 AM

There is a grave need for intervention Sir, you clearly have a disconnect. Shipley and Kubasik have nothing to do with the current topic.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 09:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
There is a grave need for intervention Sir, you clearly have a disconnect. Shipley and Kubasik have nothing to do with the current topic.
You are correct. So if Teonan would not of mentioned the term "anti-Indian" this exchange would never have started. He said "Wisner Kinne, the virulent anti-Indian Ovid farmer". What did that have to do with topic of the thread?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 09:45 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
We have several scenario here Kyle, one: Shipley and Kubasik are I take it local Seneca politicians? two: correlate those individuals with our national Democratic debate three: Correlate Seneca County Indian affairs with the Democratic debate
four: Irrespective of those two or for that matter, yourself being great citizens, how does that correlate with a Democratic debate? lastly, if you even remotely make any attempts at making the correlations, that will possibly still make you an upstanding citizen who is in need of intervention of some type if reality can't push through your present mind set.
Shipley and Kubasik are Waterloo supervisors elected by the voters of the town of Waterloo. Their actions were supported by all 14 members of the Seneca County Board of Supervisors from all 10 county towns.



All laughing matters put aside, I am conflicted in whether to feel sorry for you or criticize you, when any issue become so great that it consumes us to the extent of derailing other threads that were initially created in the Seneca County thread but you now chose to drag this subject into a National topic, we obviously see a huge disconnect and your repeated response give evident of a serious mental problem.
Another point of contention, it's very strange that two posters from Seneca County with major issues regarding the Native American in that area can't distinguish from their local personal fights and National opinion threads.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 09:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
All laughing matters put aside, I am conflicted in whether to feel sorry for you or criticize you, when any issue become so great that it consumes us to the extent of derailing other threads that were initially created in the Seneca County thread but you now chose to drag this subject into a National topic, we obviously see a huge disconnect and your repeated response give evident of a serious mental problem.
OMG. ROFLMAO. Yes I am concerned about Teonan and you too. So if Teonan would not of mentioned the term "anti-Indian" this exchange would never have started. He said "Wisner Kinne, the virulent anti-Indian Ovid farmer". What did that have to do with topic of the thread? That is true but you can't seem to accept that.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 10:06 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
All laughing matters put aside, I am conflicted in whether to feel sorry for you or criticize you, when any issue become so great that it consumes us to the extent of derailing other threads that were initially created in the Seneca County thread but you now chose to drag this subject into a National topic, we obviously see a huge disconnect and your repeated response give evident of a serious mental problem.
OMG.LOL. Yes I am concerned about Teonan. So if Teonan would not of mentioned the term "anti-Indian" this exchange would never have started. He said "Wisner Kinne, the virulent anti-Indian Ovid farmer". What did that have to do with topic of the thread?




In all honesty, I initiate the subject by mentioning your one sided opinions in regard to your Seneca County postings, blame me for that infraction. Now this is where the problem begins, count the number of off topic postings you've made since, without any further interjection from Teonan but somehow Kyle is having an adolescent episode and lacks the maturity to move on for the sake of other posters who wish to respond in regard to the original topic........ DONALD TRUMP
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 10:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
In all honesty, I initiate the subject by mentioning your one sided opinions in regard to your Seneca County postings, blame me for that infraction. Now this is where the problem begins, count the number of off topic postings you've made since, without any further interjection from Teonan but somehow Kyle is having an adolescent episode and lacks the maturity to move on for the sake of other posters who wish to respond in regard to the original topic........ DONALD TRUMP
OK Formermac. It is all your fault. All my postings were to answer yours. I don't see that anyone has been stopped about posting about Trump?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 10:14 AM

ROTFLMAO, it my fault for going off topic one time, now Kyle, who has continued to derail it son? SMH
Why do I feel like I'm having an out and out debate with a 2 year old who can't have his Count Chocula cereal this morning? laugh
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 10:16 AM

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/16/donald-trump-donors-outspend-billionaire-candidate-on-campaign.html

Donald Trump's presidential campaign filed its first report with the Federal Election Commission on Thursday, providing a rare look inside the mogul's unusual political operation and revealing a campaign powered more by grassroots donors than the famous billionaire at its helm.

Trump has stressed that he is willing to self-fund his campaign with up to $100 million, but through September, his campaign actually spent slightly more money from Trump supporters than from Trump himself. The filing shows Trump has invested $1.9 million of his own money into running for president, while his campaign spent $4.2 millio
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 10:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Why do I feel like I'm having an out and out debate with a 2 year old who can't have his Count Chocula cereal this morning? laugh
Because you will say anything to carry on a meaningless debate that you were obviously losing.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 10:30 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/16/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-left/index.html

Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 10:45 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Why do I feel like I'm having an out and out debate with a 2 year old who can't have his Count Chocula cereal this morning? laugh
Because you will say anything to carry on a meaningless debate that you were obviously losing.



At the risk of going off topic again son, read all of your postings, and tell us how Trump and Headline News
,State, National & World News
correlate with your local issues. It appears that meaningless was initiated by Mr. Kyle and your continued posting just reveal that fact. I'm truly embarrassed for you that a lot of wasted time was spent of this particular subject. If I were losing why did I attempt to get back on topic immediately son? More accurately, the topic was derail by you for the obvious....maybe you'll figure that one out. whistle
2 postings by you that were on topic while 10 more were otherwise.........Yes I lost because I diminished myself to someone very immature.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
'm truly embarrassed for you that a lot of wasted time was spent of this particular subject.
You consider it a waste only because you don't like to hear the truth about "this particular subject."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:02 AM

Trump took to Twitter during Kelly's Thursday night broadcast to criticize her guests, as "dumb puppets." He also claimed that he didn't watch her show -- which is doubtful, given his tweets -- and retweeted users who disparaged the program.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:05 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
'm truly embarrassed for you that a lot of wasted time was spent of this particular subject.
You consider it a waste only because you don't like to hear the truth about "this particular subject."




ROTFLMAO, I JUST WON BY DEFAULT
Challenger couldn't distinguish the difference between Seneca County, State and National headline news.

Go Trump
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
ROTFLMAO, I JUST WON BY DEFAULT
Challenger couldn't distinguish the difference between Seneca County, State and National headline news.
You think you are so funny. haha
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:22 AM

Republican presidential candidates Donald Trump and Dr. Ben Carson are reportedly threatening to boycott the next GOP debate scheduled to air on CNBC on Oct. 28, according to ABC News.

In a joint letter from Dr. Carson and Mr. Trump to CNBC, which was obtained by NBC News, the two GOP hopefuls have taken issue with the proposed length of the debate, as well as the exclusion of opening and closing statements. According to the letter, CNBC is proposing “two hours of debate time” along with four commercial breaks.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:22 AM

Sometimes you have to deflect ignorance with humor, which clearly went over your head from the start.
Go trump!!!!!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Go Trump
and take Formermac with you.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:31 AM

Ignorant and childish, a combination for poor choices in life son.

The subject is Trump GO TRUMP!!!!!!
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:35 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Go Trump
and take Formermac with you.



Now we understand the off topic remarks, they told you to stop all the disparaging debating in Seneca County, so what makes you think that it's acceptable on the state & national front?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:43 AM

The claim that Donald Trumps days are numbered are becoming questionable. His popularity is related to the hatred that Conservatives supporter hold toward the current Republicans on Capitol Hill. It's obvious that this anger is misguided,irrespective of whom ever is annointed as the nominee, the same dysfunctions that makes the GOP unelectable will still exist.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:44 AM

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/donald-trump-bad-businessman/397517/

Donald Trump’s run for the presidency is premised on one fact above all: He’s a fabulously successful businessman. And yet, paradoxically, running for president may be the most disastrous business decision he’s made—or, at the very least, his worst in a while.

“Everybody feels I’m doing this just to have fun or because it’s good for the brand,” Trump told The Washington Post in February. “Well, it’s not fun. I’m not doing this for enjoyment.”

And now he has validated his own point in an unfortunate way: By any measure, the campaign has been terrible for his brand.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
The claim that Donald Trumps days are numbered are becoming questionable. His popularity is related to the hatred that Conservatives supporter hold toward the current Republicans on Capitol Hill. It's obvious that this anger is misguided,irrespective of whom ever is annointed as the nominee, the same dysfunctions that makes the GOP unelectable will still exist.
It is great to see you back on topic father. You called me son. grin
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 11:55 AM

Once again son, maturity dictates that some things roll of your back, Acting similarly to a boy can garner that title.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 12:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Once again son, maturity dictates that some things roll of your back, Acting similarly to a boy can garner that title.
Some things yes. When I see outrageous comments on here I will speak up like the man that I am.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 12:33 PM

A true man/women learns to pick their battles which you're having a huge problem doing seeing that I must side track myself to answer....not respond to....look back on your postings son, most times you posed your statement in the form of a question you wanted answered. whistle
Never ask a question that you truly don't want the answer to, not everyone is willing to accommodate your one sided narratives.
Now once again, this isn't a Seneca County thread but one of National and State levels.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 12:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Now once again, this isn't a Seneca County thread but one of National and State levels.
And it was until this outrageous statement was made.
Quote:
Rich is a dedicated devotee of Wisner Kinne, the virulent anti-Indian Ovid farmer and founder of the xenophobic Seneca County Liberation Organization. Embarrassment has never been an issue for this good ol' boy.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 12:58 PM

http://theslot.jezebel.com/miguel-on-donald-trump-lets-not-be-fucking-ignorant-1736908151

Miguel, a right-minded individual, views Donald Trump as the clown he is and thinks the GOP candidate is getting an unhealthy amount of the attention that fuels his gelatinous brain.

To be sure, Miguel has no idea which presidential candidate he’d vote for; he just knows he would never willingly enable Trump.

When asked about Trump’s upcoming SNL hosting gig in November, Miguel told NME that the episode will no doubt be “good for the ratings” but that “there’s a tremendous responsibility that we all have just to not be fucking ignorant.”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 01:03 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://theslot.jezebel.com/miguel-on-donald-trump-lets-not-be-fucking-ignorant-1736908151

Miguel, a right-minded individual, views Donald Trump as the clown he is and thinks the GOP candidate is getting an unhealthy amount of the attention that fuels his gelatinous brain.

To be sure, Miguel has no idea which presidential candidate he’d vote for; he just knows he would never willingly enable Trump.

When asked about Trump’s upcoming SNL hosting gig in November, Miguel told NME that the episode will no doubt be “good for the ratings” but that “there’s a tremendous responsibility that we all have just to not be fucking ignorant.”



Careful son, lets not allow profanity on your part to get another thread locked. Whether you state it or cite it, your anger will surely lock the thread.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 05:11 PM

Getting back on topic, it seems that while The Donald may be the fav of the air headed reality TV crowd, he doesn't have the same support among serious minded business types. The following words on the cover of Barron's newspaper (the Dow Jones Business and Financial Weekly) caught my eye on the newsstand today: Trump -- The Art of Baloney. After describing one egregious case of how his bully and bluster cost one securities analyst his job for pointing out the weakness in Trump's Taj Mahal Casino business (it later went bankrupt and investors lost millions) the lead asks rhetorically "Is Trump really the kind of guy we want as President?"

Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 06:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Somewhere, somehow you're getting this impression that I really want to talk to you, in reality, I don't do hypocrites too well Rich. I can care more or less what trump is doing seeing that I do nothing to follow his progress or ratings. It's very immature and inconsiderate of you to offer irrelevant information to me that makes your day, of course we can see that it's obvious that small things "floats your boat" which alludes to possibly a small mind, thus the reason for the Trump excitement. grin


I couldn't care less if we talk or not. Many of your posts go off on tangents worse than Timbo. I really don't have the time to discuss the many facets you have interjected which have nothing to do with the topic. I just started this thread because I know there are several on here that would disagree.

http://prntly.com/blog/2015/10/15/official-october-electoral-map-gloom-for-dems-joy-for-trump/

Official October Electoral Map: gloom for Dems, joy for TRUMP

Based on an average of the RCP polling data from all the states and all the “head to head” matchups between Donald Trump (by far the winner of the GOP) and Hillary Clinton (The winner of the Democratic Party) shows bad news for the Democrats.

Clinton is losing handily in all the swing states, and is even losing Democrat strongholds of Maryland, Connecticut, and Oregon.

According to many polls, and the averages, Clinton cannot even hold on to California and New York without a major fight.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 06:40 PM

http://www.yesimright.com/blacklivesmatt...eir-place-whoa/

Donald Trump is no stranger to controversy, but this time things got a little too heated. At a conference in Richmond Virginia, Trump supporters clashed with Latino activists and the thinly veiled hate group known as Black Lives Matter.

In fine form, Trump takes care of the hecklers and regains control of the meeting but not before some truly epic conflict.

According to Gateway Pundit,
Black Lives Matter and pro-illegal alien Latino activists were forcibly removed by Virginia State Police officers after disrupting a rally held Wednesday evening in Richmond by leading Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

There were reports that ‘small fights’ had broken out between the protesters and Trump supporters.
A cellphone video shows an apparent Trump supporter arguing with and then spitting on a protester. One report said the disruptions lasted for around thirty minutes.

When the protesters first made their presence known in the capacity crowd of about 5,000, Trump responded by saying, “That’s why we have freedom of speech, folks!”, according to a video excerpt of his speech posted to You Tube.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 07:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Getting back on topic, it seems that while The Donald may be the fav of the air headed reality TV crowd, he doesn't have the same support among serious minded business types. The following words on the cover of Barron's newspaper (the Dow Jones Business and Financial Weekly) caught my eye on the newsstand today: Trump -- The Art of Baloney. After describing one egregious case of how his bully and bluster cost one securities analyst his job for pointing out the weakness in Trump's Taj Mahal Casino business (it later went bankrupt and investors lost millions) the lead asks rhetorically "Is Trump really the kind of guy we want as President?"







Modern day snake oil salesman.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot


[/font]In fine form, Trump takes care of the hecklers and regains control of the meeting



And regains control....now that is a form of leadership we haven't seen in 7 years. The protestors know that there handouts may be in jeopardy if Trump is elected.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/16/15 09:06 PM

The whole country is in jeopardy if the big T gets elected. frown
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 10/17/15 10:49 AM

This country has been in deep trouble the last 7 years.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 10/17/15 10:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Somewhere, somehow you're getting this impression that I really want to talk to you, in reality, I don't do hypocrites too well Rich. I can care more or less what trump is doing seeing that I do nothing to follow his progress or ratings. It's very immature and inconsiderate of you to offer irrelevant information to me that makes your day, of course we can see that it's obvious that small things "floats your boat" which alludes to possibly a small mind, thus the reason for the Trump excitement. grin


Actually, you do hypocrisy very well. You own guns but talk of gun control. You own guns but always have something to say when I talk of owning guns.

You do hypocrisy well when you offer irrelevant information to others who's views and opinions differ.

You do hypocrisy well for someone who says that they don't care what Trump is doing or following his progress when that is exactly what you have been doing.

So go on now reply and call me son.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/17/15 12:11 PM

Getting away from your favorite topic/security blanket (guns) and back to the subject of this thread (Trump):



Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 10/18/15 10:29 AM

I do like my guns. Ok, yes back to the subject of this thread. GO TRUMP! Veterans before illegal aliens.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/18/15 04:09 PM

http://prntly.com/blog/2015/10/17/shock-poll-trump-blue-collar-support-highest-since-fdr-in-1930s/

Trump Blue Collar Support highest since FDR in 1930s

It may come as a surprise to many that Donald J Trump’s support from Blue Collar Americans (those involved in trades, manufacturing, industry, and labor) is the highest since any candidate since FDR in 1936 since Gallup began polling.

Trump has consistently shown his appeal to the blue collar sector of the economy, pulling ahead of even Clinton and Sanders in “rust belt” states like Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Indiana, and Pennslyvania.

These states have the highest share of “Blue Collar” voters in the nation, and many of them have not voted Republican in over 20 years.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 10/22/15 08:55 AM

Go Trump!
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/22/15 09:06 AM

We agree, if Trump gets the nomination, we can get a big picture of how he is to repeal the laws in regard to " Merry Christmas" building a huge wall,how do we deal with our foreign enemies, help parents with education, diminish the newest trend of cop killing and create more better paying jobs,YES I'm very willing to say that I'm pulling for Trump and then we'll get to see how the hateful Conservatives cut off their own nose to spite their face and hand Hillary a easy win. laugh laugh




http://www.australiannationalreview.com/donald-trump-worst-president/

GO TRUMP!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 10/22/15 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted By: Formermac
We agree, if Trump gets the nomination, we can get a big picture of how he is to repeal the laws in regard to " Merry Christmas" building a huge wall,how do we deal with our foreign enemies, help parents with education, diminish the newest trend of cop killing and create more better paying jobs,YES I'm very willing to say that I'm pulling for Trump and then we'll get to see how the hateful Conservatives cut off their own nose to spite their face. laugh laugh


GO TRUMP!!!!!!!!!


Now we have border that is open and illegal aliens are pouring over it like water over Niagara Falls, the trend in cop killings gets no mention from our failure in chief but he does send people to funerals of the criminals killed by cops, more people on food stamps than ever before, 94 million people not even looking for work and why should they? The government will give them handouts. The working middle class has seen a reduction in income. Our failure in chief doesn't deal with foreign enemies he just supports them with a nuclear deal and in weapons. Iran, a huge and admitted backer of terrorism, gets billions of dollars back to use for terrorism support. More jobs lost. More companies moving to other countries. Corporations are moving their headquarters overseas because this country has taxed them to the point of insolvency. Being over 18 trillion in debt we cannot help parents with education. We cannot help the homeless. We cannot feed the hungry. We cannot create better jobs because companies and corporations are leaving.

Voting for Sanders or Clinton is essentially voting for the same failures that we will have seen and experienced under Barry Obama. It stands to reason that if the debt more than doubled under Obama than it will more than double that under Sanders or Clinton. Both of which did nothing to reduce the debt while they were in congress.

So I say Merry Christmas, God Bless and go Trump!
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 10/22/15 01:51 PM



Illustration by Barry Blitt

Michael Kinsley
Vanity Fair
November 2015

The Serious Problem with Treating Donald Trump Seriously

Media outlets and candidates alike are pondering how to take down Donald. Michael Kinsley writes that the answer might be quite simple.

The trouble with Donald Trump is not, as Jeb Bush and others would have it, that he's not a true conservative from any perspective. The trouble with Trump is not that his policy positions on immigration, ISIS, health care, Social Security, or whatever don't stand up to a moment of casual scrutiny. That we're even talking about his “positions” means that we've already progressed to the dangerous Stage Two of the Trump phenomenon, as if his stated views are the standard by which Trump ought to be judged—a huge victory for him right there. The trouble with Trump is that he is, by temperament, by experience, and by character, utterly unqualified to be president of the United States. He is a buffoon. That's why his campaign is a joke, not the merits or otherwise of his alleged policies. All he brings to the table is a lot of money and a talent for publicity. These are not worthless assets in a presidential candidate. Trump is right, unfortunately, that his billions free him from the need to raise money, with all the dispiriting and time-consuming compromises that that entails. And, of course, he is not the first politician with a knack for drawing attention to himself.

But he may be the first who offers little more than that. Oh, a bit of wit and charm. A sense of humor that always leaves the listener wondering whether he's serious or not. But where's the wisdom? Where's the gravitas—or, as the Brits call it, less pretentiously, the “bottom”? Trump's self-designated role in our culture has been the clown who, because he doesn't give a damn, will say anything, including truths that more serious people will not utter. That's fine. I wouldn't mind having that job. But Trump is apparently tired of playing the Fool. He wants to be King Lear.

The press is so hostile to Trump that it has broken new ground in what reporters are allowed to say in ostensibly “objective” news articles and broadcasts. Even Richard Nixon, the man who kept an “enemies list” that included reporters he was going to get even with, was treated with more respect. But every insult from the hated media just makes Trump stronger.

A news article in The New York Times—not an op-ed piece, a news article—about Trump's immigration remarks dignifies them with the word “plan,” even while describing them as “mixing a little policy with a lot of fiery bombast” and pointing out that his plan is based on ideas that have been “broadly debunked.” Pretty tough. (And accurate.) But the truth is that Trump has no “plan” for anything. He just has a mouth.

A while back in the Times, Josh Barro started a debate about whether Trump is really a “moderate” who merely acts like an extremist because it sells. You might say that he isn't an extremist but he plays one on TV. Barro's argument was that if you take all of Trump's extreme views on Social Security, immigration, and so on, some of them classified as extremely right-wing and some extremely left-wing, they average out to be more or less down the center. Ezra Klein replied in Vox, essentially, that extreme views are extreme views, no matter how they average out. But looking for some kind of ideological thread in Trump's various positions is a fool's errand (and another victory for Trump). The appeal of Trump's alleged views on every issue is their extremeness. That, and their seeming simplicity. The fact that he hasn't thought them through and has more or less pulled them out of the air (or out of his ass, as Trump himself might put it) is a feature, not a bug, as they say in Silicon Valley. Trump stands for the proposition that you don't need to know much to run the government. You just need to use your common sense and to grow a pair, as Sarah Palin so memorably advised.

So, why are the news media and Trump's political opponents so reluctant to call him a goofball? Why do they enhance his respectability by taking his various off-the-cuff notions seriously in the very process of criticizing them? Why does Jeb Bush, of all people, try to get to Trump's right—wherever that may be, exactly—instead of saying, “Look, this fellow is not qualified to be president. I am.” (And like it or not, that is Bush's selling point. He is foolish to run away from it.)

The problem is populism. Talk like this sounds elitist. But our big problem as a democracy is our inability to acknowledge as a nation what we accept and deal with in our personal lives, which is that more of this means less of that. If we spend money on tax cuts, we can't spend it on education or infrastructure or all the other things the Republican candidates are promising. If we want to deal with global warming, we will have to give up plastic grocery bags and S.U.V.'s. Any coherent philosophy or agenda will bump up against this limit. With a cafeteria-tray approach, like Trump's, where one “idea” need have no connection to any of the others he tosses out, there is no such discipline.

That we’re even talking about his “positions” is a victory for Trump.

This analysis may be completely wrong, but it is not a refutation to say that it is “elitist.” Political journalists might report breathlessly that 23 percent of potential voters in New Hampshire agree with Trump that free cupcakes should be available on major holidays. They would present this as a challenge to the other candidates. Marco Rubio—what is your position on free cupcakes? Will you change it in light of this new evidence that voters favor Trump's position? You can see the headlines: RUBIO CONSIDERS FLIP-FLOP ON CUPCAKES. (Arianna says, “Darling, we had the cupcake story 17 minutes ago. Get with it.”)

Trump is just the latest among a series of business types who think they should run the country because they ran a company. Remember Ross Perot? This year there are two, the other being Carly Fiorina, who ran Hewlett-Packard—ran it into the ground. Businesspeople are an odd category of citizen to look to as a populist deus ex machina. True, they usually have some practical business sense and experience, which is not worthless. But their lives are different from those of people who are hurting, and increasingly so. (So are the lives of Washington journalists, but at least we are free to admit it.) Trump's business experience has been in real estate, professional celebrity, gambling casinos, and creative bankruptcy—not the kind of experience that is likely to be useful as president.

Even the most cynical and demagogic politician usually has something he or she truly wants to accomplish, some ideological goal or vision. Trump seems to be running because he thinks it would be cool to be president. No doubt that plays a role in the thinking of even as philosophical a candidate as Hillary Clinton. But with Trump, that's all there is.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/22/15 02:11 PM

Great article by Michael Kinsley, well said and very explicit in details and reality of Mr. Trump. I don't know your age but I'm from the era of the Dr. Frankenstein movies where in the final analogy, man's quest to seek what he deems to be the ultimate life,turns into a horrific creation that destroys the creator, in this case, those supporters who fails to see his true inabilities and haven't clearly thought through as to what damages his inability creates.
Posted by: Barack Obama

Re: Donald Trump - 10/22/15 09:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan
Trump's business experience has been in real estate, professional celebrity, gambling casinos, and creative bankruptcy—not the kind of experience that is likely to be useful as president.


Why would the President of a country that is $18.4 trillion dollars in debt need to know about bankruptcy whistle
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/22/15 09:29 PM

Trump's usual tactic when faced with bad decisions he has made in business is to take advantage of our bankruptcy laws, skating away with a profit and leaving investors that he cajoled with his "I'll build the greatest, most powerful, yadda yadda" BS holding the bag and losing their investment. Do we really want to apply that to our national economy? What is Trump going to do about the national debt -- file for bankruptcy? Behind all the bluster and grandiose promises about what he'll do is nothing but hot air.
Posted by: Barack Obama

Re: Donald Trump - 10/22/15 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
he cajoled with his "I'll build the greatest, most powerful, yadda yadda" BS holding the bag and losing their investment. Do we really want to apply that to our national economy?


You realize you are asking the creator of Obama-care this question, Right whistle
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/23/15 11:29 AM

Get real, idiot, you're not the creator of Obamacare, you're just trying to avoid a harsh truth about Trump's many business failures. Putting the US economy in the hands of a flim flam casino owner whose only interest is personal enrichment (insert any of his bragging about how rich he is) is not a strategy for success of the country.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/23/15 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Barack Obama
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Trump's business experience has been in real estate, professional celebrity, gambling casinos, and creative bankruptcy—not the kind of experience that is likely to be useful as president.


Why would the President of a country that is $18.4 trillion dollars in debt need to know about bankruptcy whistle


Well, for one huge reason, Obama's predecessor had this propensity to spend tax payer's money on wars,$1600.00 toilet seats and other non essential items to the extent of nearly bankrupting the country. It's apparent that math fails you because you only need to count of the debt prior to Bush....wait, we had a surplus. Now, what are the cost of two wars and repayments to China with interest? Before proceeding with ignorance, they have budget directors and accountants who can attest to these facts but why should that stop you? facts are only a temporary nuisance to you. whistle
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/23/15 05:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Barack Obama
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Trump's business experience has been in real estate, professional celebrity, gambling casinos, and creative bankruptcy—not the kind of experience that is likely to be useful as president.


Why would the President of a country that is $18.4 trillion dollars in debt need to know about bankruptcy whistle
Well, genius, where do you suppose he would file for bankruptcy? If that's the only tool in his box, he's going to have a hard time solving this problem. So his knowledge of US bankruptcy laws is about as useful as your knowledge of macroeconomics.
Posted by: Barack Obama

Re: Donald Trump - 10/23/15 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
you only need to count of the debt prior to Bush....wait, we had a surplus.


That moment you realize the person who just accused you of being ignorant shows everyone they don't know the difference between the deficit and the debt whistle
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/23/15 07:26 PM

ROTFLMBO, debt, debit and surplus. Well here is some data for you son,when Clinton left office the country had debt and will alway have debt but where you are missing in comprehension, we had enough incoming revenue to not only pay our bills but an overage which was passed on to Bush. Now for another point, bush declare war in the Middle East with the use in theory, a credit card which as you know allows you to purchase now and pay later, which in this case we are paying the minimum due with no ability to pay down the principle, only interest, now son, that being the case, where does the principle go? Exactly, thank you Liberals for the answer.The principle is stacked on top of the current debt...we did discuss debt right? whistle
Posted by: Barack Obama

Re: Donald Trump - 10/23/15 07:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
debt, debit deficit and surplus.

And some of us know the difference between them whistle
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/23/15 07:43 PM

Yet some idiot (you) fails to know the difference


Debit-usually taxpayers add to the coffer
Debt-You owe
Deficit- You're in the Red son, you're spending more than what's coming in.

Surplus- Not only are you paying your bills, there's enough in the coffer to possibly buying a little extra, which was Bush's case, he took that extra and added a credit card to pay for those wars. ******* See Deficit
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/23/15 07:48 PM

Mr. BO doesn't know that I own a business(successful at that) I've managed to stay in the black. (opposite of red)
Now can we get back to the topic son since you've schooled? laugh
Posted by: Barack Obama

Re: Donald Trump - 10/23/15 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
since you've schooled


Correct. I have schooled. You've been schooled whistle
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/23/15 08:01 PM

Yes we've all been schooled, unfortunately you let the cat out of the bag tonight that you've just been enlightened based on your own admission. laugh
Topic: Donald Trump cool

BTW: what school do you have? Private, Public or Charter? All are suffering huge dropout rates laugh
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 10/23/15 08:57 PM

It's been awhile since I have said this. Go Trump!
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/25/15 09:07 PM

http://powderedwigsociety.com/trump-kills-hitlery-in-head-to-head-matchup/#

Latest presidential poll shows Donald Trump beating Hillary Clinton in head-to-head contest, Trump taking 70% of the electoral votes



Isn't that what "Global Warming" fanatics call consensus? smile
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 10/25/15 11:22 PM

And pigs are flying, Hell has opened a ski resort with a Trump Ice Palace Hotel, etc. We'll remember this post, Rich, just so we can bring it to your attention next November.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 10/26/15 07:28 AM


If he hasn't move to Somalia first. grin
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 10/27/15 12:10 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/10/26/mike-tyson-endorses-donald-trump-president/
Mike Tyson Endorses Donald Trump for President
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 10/27/15 12:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot

No doubt. Both of these cats can chew your ear off. grin


Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/27/15 12:56 PM

ROTFLMBO, Mike Tyson, hey every endorsement helps but h*ll, some people actually adds a degree of circus like atmosphere to the arena and in this case Mike Tyson, the heavy hitter of past time but one who displays the aftermath of brain damage due to constant blows to the head which lead to a very dysfunctional lifestyle. Mike Tyson you say? ROTFLMBO
I wouldn't brag about that one. crazy
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 10/28/15 01:57 PM

What's really sad are the Trump supporters cheering him on while ignorance prevents them from recognizing that he's not stating anything significant or having substance. You've mentioned in one of your researches a revealing truth.




http://www.demos.org/blog/why-most-educated-americans-vote-democratic



http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...ple-racist.html
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 10/28/15 02:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
What's really sad are the Trump supporters cheering him on while ignorance prevents them from recognizing that he's not stating anything significant or having substance. You've mentioned in one of your researches a revealing truth.

http://www.demos.org/blog/why-most-educated-americans-vote-democratic


From your article. Other than occasional exceptions, clear as glass. wink

"The answer is intuitive: Education tends to increase one's exposure to different viewpoints and kinds of people, fostering tolerance -- a key basis for social liberalism. In contrast, less educated voters -- according to research -- are more likely to embrace intolerant, authoritarian values when it comes to regulating social behavior and, in addition, are more likely to be distrustful of those who are different than they are. "- David Callahan
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/05/15 05:38 PM

https://rawconservative.com/2015/08/takemehigher/
Could Donald Trump Have Even Higher Poll Numbers Than What Is Reported?


As new polls continue to be released nation wide, Donald Trump has commanding leads in every single poll. The support is so high that considerations for who is being polled has started a conversation that the support could be even higher. Not all of the voting block in most polls are questioned for their support and in the key demographic of 18-45 year old’s, most polls are conducted with land line robo-calls.

In a cell phone and social media world where most younger people do not even have a land line phone, it would suggest that based on the support from land line house holds, the support could be higher— Much higher as in 50% of the vote or more.

Support for this theory has been the release of several social media polls on various news blog and support outlets showing Donald Trump with 55%-75% of the vote.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/05/15 07:38 PM

http://www.yesimright.com/donald-trump-j...m-over-the-top/

Donald Trump Just Picked Up A HUGE Supporter That Will Put Him Over The Top!

Fellow billionaire Carl Icahn had previously stated that he did not support Trump for president, but now he’s changing his tone! This is a massive supporter for Trump and one that could tip the scales in his favor for the GOP to truly nominate him as their choice for the presidency.

‘At this point, I don’t see who else who I would support,’ Icahn said. ‘I want someone who’s going to shake up Washington…you need somebody like a Trump that can face up to [Congress] and get something done.’


Trump took a million dollar loan and turned it into a ten billion dollar empire.

Obama tool a ten trillion dollar debt and turned it into a twenty trillion dollar debt.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/06/15 02:16 PM

Donald Trump is a graduate from the Prestigious Wharton School of Finance at the University of Pennsylvania – considered to be one of the finest business schools in the world. He earned his Bachlor’s of Science degree in economics and anthropology. Based on Wharton’s admission standards and his known SAT scores, Trump’s est IQ exceeds 156. The standard description for this rare level of intelligence is “Genius – Exceptional intellectual ability and capable of looking beyond know facts.” That percentile means Donald Trump is more intelligent than 99.99% of the people on planet earth. Brave. Caring. Accomplished. Experienced – AND a Genius in Economics. Isn’t this exactly what we need in our President - Gary Forbes

The ONLY poll which has shown Trump not in first place was the NBC poll which took four days to poll about 350 people. OAN poll shows Trump ahead by 10%; Morning Consult Poll shows Trump ahead by 10%; Reuters shows Trump ahead by 13%; and Investors shows Trump ahead by 5%. Trump has roughly 30% support in most National polls except NBC/WSJ.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 11/06/15 02:43 PM

Polls? The voters (Well, at least Liberal voters)are more focused on what each candidate can achieve. It's laughable when we observe Trump touting his drawing power while never actually detailing how he will accomplish these large feats. Yes people, the Republican voters are so disenchanted with it's own party, they are willing to support a couple of lying unskilled wantabe politicians. Now that is pathetic as well as disturbing.


http://www.forwardprogressives.com/alarming-breakdown-dishonest-donald-trump-ben-carson/
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/06/15 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Trump took a million dollar loan and turned it into a ten billion dollar empire.

That 10 billion is what Trump claims. Forbes puts his wealth at less than half that amount. It's also worth noting that when Trump started his career, his father had already built a colossal real-estate empire and that a substantial part of his fortune is inherited. Additionally, wealth he has accumulated has at times come at the expense of taxpayers or the banks and investors who have lent him money (just ask the folks who invested in his bankrupt casino ventures).
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/07/15 09:01 PM

http://www.yesimright.com/liberals-said-...-otherwise-yes/
Liberals Said “There’s No Way Trump Will Win!” This New Poll Says Otherwise. YES!

The writing is one the wall folks. It’s only a matter of time until he’s the Republican candidate for president.
Trump once again hit a home run during last week’s debate.
And now we have some stats to back that up! NBC News/Survey Monkey release their poll statistics over the weekend and it shoed Trump, once again, took the crown of the people’s choice.

In a survey of Republicans and Republican-leaning independent voters, Trump and Carson both earned 26 percent, while Cruz took 10 percent. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio followed with 9 percent, trailed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (5 percent), Carly Fiorina (4 percent) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Ohio Gov. John Kasich and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul (all at 2 percent).

While other candidates are pulling closer, this doesn’t mean that Trump is losing ground. Other candidates have dropped out and, more than likely, are having those votes go to Carson, Cruz, and Rubio. However, it looks like those are the top 4 and we will have a great candidate no matter what.

http://prntly.com/blog/?p=2180
Trump Skyrocks in National and Iowa poll 1 day before SNL

Donald Trump has skyrocketed in the latest opinion polling, capturing the support of 31% of nationwide voters.
Meanwhile, in Iowa, Trump catapulted to #1 with even stronger numbers, claiming the #1 throne at 26%.
Most Americans view Trump as most likeable and most presidential.

The poll of likely Iowa caucus-goers finds Trump with 25% support, Carson 23%. Those two are well ahead of their nearest competitors, Sens. Marco Rubio (13%) and Ted Cruz (11%).



http://www.msfanpage.link/hillary-clinton-people-are-fleeing-syria-because-of-climate-change/

You can’t make this sh*t up.

Hillary Clinton lists the reasons why thousands of people are fleeing Syria:”Because of terrible governance, because of corruption, because of conflict, because of climate change.”
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/09/15 08:37 AM

Quote for the Day:

"I play to people's fantasies... It's an innocent form of exaggeration -- and a very effective form of promotion." Donald Trump, The Art of the Deal
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/09/15 05:07 PM

Very good Lucinda.

Of course there are many quotes which could be posted from BHO’s books but videos watching him lie with fabricated stories is much more fun. I like this one telling how his parents conceived him after their march in Selma Alabama in 1965. The fact he was born four years prior in 1961 shows how well he can lie with a straight face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7QxgN5YegE


http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015...r-own-findings/
Minnesota Media Poll Shows Donald Trump on Top and Defeating Hillary – Promptly Deleted Their own Findings…
Posted on November 3, 2015 by sundance

Media quickly deletes finding that Trump beats Hillary in MN !

The operational arm of the DNC, or perhaps Senator Al Franken, must have been urgently dispatched to contact KTSP (ABC 5) News in Minnesota after they published results from their own sponsored SurveyUSA poll/survey…..

Why? Because they deleted the lead in paragraph shortly after posting it. Our discovery was accidental.

The KTSP(ABC5) survey findings show Donald Trump perceived to be the most likely nominee amid all of the survey respondents:
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 11/09/15 05:53 PM

Personally, I pray that Donald does win the nomination. Now lets fast forward to a debate between Hillary and Donald. Only a fool (pause) would construe Trump as an expert or even close on foreign affair,healthcare and women's rights and being that he's so popular with Blacks and Hispanics, do the math on who supported Obama in both elections, it doesn't take a political analyst to give the favorable rating to Hillary. Now where you expose your ignorance, attempting to sell us on how much the minorities & women just love to be insulted by a Middle Aged White Conservative candidate. whistle
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/09/15 07:21 PM

Go Trump!
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/11/15 02:46 PM

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/house.../#ixzz3m09GUucd
House Just Passed “Donald Trump Act” –

Trump knows that the border is so unprotected that dangerous criminals and terrorists can cross into America with ease.

That’s why the U.S. House of Representatives just issued a major defeat to Obama! Known as the “Donald Trump Act,” House Resolution 3099 takes direct aim at cities which don’t enforce federal laws about sanctuary cities.

The House passed it by an overwhelming 241-197 vote. This is a big deal!

Democrats accused House Republicans of bringing up the bill in part because of real estate mogul and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s focus on illegal immigration and sanctuary cities; they dubbed the bill the “Donald Trump Act.”

“Just a few weeks into his campaign and Donald Trump has a bill on the floor of the House. That is better than some of the senators he’s running against.” Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-Ill.) said mockingly.


That and Ford building it’s plant in Ohio instead of Mexico is showing that Trump has already done more for this country than Obama.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/11/15 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Personally, I pray that Donald does win the nomination.


Although all your prayers may not be answered, I'm confident that one will.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 11/11/15 03:22 PM

My prayers are answered,there's a new trend of dysfunctional individuals who have offspring and a revelation of the perverbial question "what the heck is wrong wih our kids today" you give me that answer on a daily basis.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/11/15 10:21 PM

Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 11/13/15 08:41 AM

:D, are they headed to a proverbial cliff? I don't know but this I do know, politics are at an all time low and the American voters are getting the but end of this fallout. This current narrative of pointing the finger and standing on the premise that each one is right seems to be the biggest dysfunction, yet many facts have been proven just as that, fact. Our American citizen deserves good healthcare but we're not seeing any remedy from the Conservative aisles, workers are behind the 8 ball in terms of fair pay but Republicans states that we are killing jobs by demanding better wages while in reality, corporations are smiling at this line of defense while they never intended to improve worker's conditions in the first place but would rather find even cheaper wages by going overseas and give bonuses to upper management and stock holders. The hypocrites on the Conservative side are so disenchanted with the current Congress but attempts to vocally criticize only Democrats while physically not supporting anything remotely to that of a good politician. Today the Conservative voters gets to make two individual statements, one faction is not bigoted or racist and just want a decent Conservative to speak on their behalf (Ben Carson) the other side, an ultra Conservative group who hates minorities, gays, lesbians, non Christians, immigrants, gun protesters, equal rights for women,poor and any other attribute they deem as not the Good ole American way (In an Archie Bunker voice) I introduce you to the great Donald Trump, he seems to gratify their thirst for hate.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/13/15 09:35 PM

Go Trump! When it's all said and done we will have 8 years of failures. Time to make America great again.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/15/15 09:22 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coch-rgiJAM
Geraldo Rivera admits Trump is right. Terror attacks in Paris.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/15/15 10:14 PM

Go Trump! I find it refreshing that someone is calling it like it is for a change.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 11/16/15 07:27 AM

Yes, "Calling it like it is" or is that " Reminiscing for the good ole days"

Lets look at the dynamics here, scanning the large Trump & Carson crowds, where are the people that supposedly represent AMERICA? (Mr. Carson is too uneducated to remember what was done to his own race and now wonder why Trump is given a free pass on negative rhetoric while he is being disparaged. This is 2015 not 1789 when White settlers came to a country that had inhabitants watching them reach their shores. "Telling it like it is states that over the next 220 years this country has pushed many citizens to the point of oppression, discrimination and disrespect....if you care to argue fact,the task on my part will be easy seeing that history took the time to record itself. Donald Trump, the epitome of White Conservative Males, who have for 200 years, sought to take land from a weaker people, rage war on an ideology, by that I mean attempting to kill anything that you disagree with. We witnessed a grave injustice toward humanity in regard to the attacks in Paris yet knee jerk Republicans are willing to strike back without the benefit of a true strategy and the shear bombing the H#*l out the enemy only manages to incense and strengthen the resolve of said enemy. Tell us why we can't get out of the Middle East for the last 13 years and I'll confirm fact, once again, you can't kill an ideal which is symbolic to cancer, shear bombardment to the cells only delays the spread to other parts of the body. If we are to eradicate ISIS lets begin today, strike Europe and America along with Syria. Foolish & simplistic Conservatives forgot as why Americans voted not to place another Conservative in the White House, we are war wearied and tired of Conservatives taking benefits from us so they may take our monies to fight the enemy. For change, lets tell it like a is, a America so fractured by hate and politics, we are using our own dysfunction against ourselves, ISIS figured that out 8 years ago by watching idiots wanting to publicly engage in war tactics..YES they are that stupid, tell the enemy exactly what you intend to do just so you can spite the "enemy" living next door to you. It's time Gents to decrease the stupidity and work together as a Nation in fighting the enemy......the term who is our enemy is yet To Be Determined.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 11/16/15 07:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Yes, "Calling it like it is" or is that " Reminiscing for the good ole days"

Trump Campaign Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra3qnLXmJDM
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/16/15 08:34 AM


Donald Trump: Love Child of an orange haired orangutan?
Posted by: Spi63

Re: Donald Trump - 11/16/15 08:41 AM

I wish there was a list of those that vote for Mr. T or a Republican for that matter. That way when the rich get richer and the middles class is gone, and corporations run 100% of OUR country we will know who to thank for our fall. When you respond to this, add a list of what has the republican party done for the working families in the last 20 years. I'm sure it won't take long or be a long list.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/19/15 12:56 PM

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/direc...t-donald-trump/

Clint Eastwood campaigning for Trump

Eastwood has shared his opinion on Donald Trump in a huge way. Not only does Eastwood support him, but he’s speaking on behalf of Trump in California, Arizona, and Nevada!
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 11/19/15 01:36 PM

Clint Eastwood, I loved him as a actor and all the great movies he not only acted in but the great ones he produced, sadly Clint's greatness stops there, remember the pathetic "chair" scene during Mitt Romney's stomp for the 2012 campaign? All that greatness now being over shadowed by this one sad offer to support Mitt. History has a way of repeating itself, a Republican loses while the Democratic nominee goes on the win the White House, in this case, a 3rd time being the charm. whistle



Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/21/15 12:16 PM

I enjoy the jokes and you all (err, Y'ALL) have nothing to concern yourselves with because New York will undoubtedly cast its 19 votes for the Communist of your choice. There WAS a time when New York had 47 votes, but the smart ones voted with their feet.

Meanwhile, Trump is STILL in first place and Cruz is gaining ground.

http://therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-surges-to-2nd-place-in-new-nbc-nationwide-poll/
Ted Cruz SURGES to 2nd place in new NBC nationwide poll
Posted by The Right Scoop on Nov 20, 2015

NBC News has a new nationwide surveymonkey poll out today, with a very large sample size of over 2400 that are Republican or who lean Republican, that shows Ted Cruz surging 8 points to second place into a tie with Ben Carson with 18%. Trump is of course still in first place with 28%.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/21/15 01:29 PM

Yes, Trump is in first place with Republican base voters. He's also toying with the idea of requiring all Muslims to register with the government in a database so they can be tracked or monitored and perhaps requiring everyone to carry ID showing their religion. Who's next for targeting? Jews? Catholics? Atheists? Couple that with his stated goal of rounding up and deporting 11,000,000 people, and it presents a chilling image of what he plans for our "freedom."
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Yes, Trump is in first place with Republican base voters. He's also toying with the idea of requiring all Muslims to register with the government in a database so they can be tracked or monitored and perhaps requiring everyone to carry ID showing their religion. Who's next for targeting? Jews? Catholics? Atheists? Couple that with his stated goal of rounding up and deporting 11,000,000 people, and it presents a chilling image of what he plans for our "freedom."


Well it's about time someone has stepped up to take on muslim terrorists. No one has done it the last 7 years. 9/11 was a good example of what happens when the government sits back and does nothing. France is finally seeing the light after years of inaction on the influx of muslims.

It won't affect my "freedom". I am not a muslim terrorist nor an illegal alien.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 07:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Yes, Trump is in first place with Republican base voters. He's also toying with the idea of requiring all Muslims to register with the government in a database so they can be tracked or monitored and perhaps requiring everyone to carry ID showing their religion. Who's next for targeting? Jews? Catholics? Atheists? Couple that with his stated goal of rounding up and deporting 11,000,000 people, and it presents a chilling image of what he plans for our "freedom."



It's refreshing when we remind them of their hate, especially the one's calling themselves Christians.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 08:27 AM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic

It won't affect my "freedom". I am not a muslim terrorist nor an illegal alien.
You don't think you have anything to be concerned about? Perhaps Martin Niemöller had similar thoughts... he wound up spending 7 years in Nazi concentration camps. Think about it. Once the government gets in the habit of rounding up people who are considered "threats," what do you think they will do with people who boast about carrying guns all the time?
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 03:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
You don't think you have anything to be concerned about? Perhaps Martin Niemöller had similar thoughts... he wound up spending 7 years in Nazi concentration camps. Think about it. Once the government gets in the habit of rounding up people who are considered "threats," what do you think they will do with people who boast about carrying guns all the time?


I have alot to be concerned about. That's why I am all for tracking, rounding up and deporting the muslims. The government couldn't even keep Cliven Bundy's cattle so I am not worried about losing my guns.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 03:28 PM

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20151120...view-of-clinton

Go military. Go NRA. Go Trump!
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 04:37 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
I have alot to be concerned about. That's why I am all for tracking, rounding up and deporting the muslims. The government couldn't even keep Cliven Bundy's cattle so I am not worried about losing my guns.
Who's next on your xenophobic/racist agenda? Sounds like you would have felt right at home in the Waffen SS.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Guess they'll really have to suck it up when she becomes commander in chief
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Guess they'll really have to suck it up when she becomes commander in chief


Now THAT's scary.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 05:05 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-Hell-here.html

Trump supporters throw Black Lives Matter protester to the ground and kick him at rally as The Donald yells: 'Get the hell out of here!'

Hate groups are not welcome here.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 05:15 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
I'm REALLY surprised that 15% viewed her favorably. Must be they were from New York. LOL
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 06:56 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Yes, Trump is in first place with Republican base voters. He's also toying with the idea of requiring all Muslims to register with the government in a database so they can be tracked or monitored and perhaps requiring everyone to carry ID showing their religion. Who's next for targeting? Jews? Catholics? Atheists? Couple that with his stated goal of rounding up and deporting 11,000,000 people, and it presents a chilling image of what he plans for our "freedom."
Well it's about time someone has stepped up to take on muslim terrorists. No one has done it the last 7 years. 9/11 was a good example of what happens when the government sits back and does nothing.

That shows just how very little you understand about the origin and history of IS, ISIS and ISIL.

It couldn't possibly be clearer that it was directly the result of the policies of Bush/Cheney/Wolfowitz that brought them into existence, in the first place. If they had actually "sat back and done LESS", we likely wouldn't have to be doing anything at all! crazy

But I digress... THIS thread's about "The Donald", isn't it?
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
I'm REALLY surprised that 15% viewed her favorably. Must be they were from New York. LOL


HAHAHA! I thought the same thing.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 09:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo


But I digress... THIS thread's about "The Donald", isn't it?[/size]


Ah yes, you are right. In that case Go Donald!
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 09:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo

That shows just how very little you understand about the origin and history of IS, ISIS and ISIL.


I understand that 7 years of failure from our so called president has allowed the terrorists to obtain a foothold in various countries around the world. If we don't get a real leader like Trump in office they will gain a foothold in this country.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Who's next on your xenophobic/racist agenda? Sounds like you would have felt right at home in the Waffen SS.


So muslims are a race? How would I be at home with the SS? I was born in America and after the fall of the nazi's.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 11/22/15 09:54 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Originally Posted By: Timbo

That shows just how very little you understand about the origin and history of IS, ISIS and ISIL.

I understand that 7 years of failure from our so called president has allowed the terrorists to obtain a foothold in various countries around the world. If we don't get a real leader like Trump in office they will gain a foothold in this country.

As I said, you criticize the stench of your neighbors yard after your dog has spent eight years using it as its own toilet.

Or, to put it in your vernacular... He who smelt it, dealt it.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/23/15 08:18 AM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
I understand that 7 years of failure from our so called president has allowed the terrorists to obtain a foothold in various countries around the world. If we don't get a real leader like Trump in office they will gain a foothold in this country.
Well, the Donald is certainly doing his part to inspire terrorism here in the US.

See the article on how Trump keeps spreading lies about what he "saw" on 9/11, and how he would like to see protesters "roughed up." Rough Up Protesters Maybe future Trump rallies will include his security dressed in brown shirts.

Trump's sense of how to deal with dissent and his view of how to deal with minorities presents a frightening image of his plans for America.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/23/15 04:17 PM

http://www.empirestatenews.net/2015/11/15/29-reasons-to-vote-for-donald-trump/
29 Reasons to Vote for Donald Trump
By Jimmy The Saint —

Donald Trump took a one million dollar loan from his father and turned into a $10 Billion net worth empire. That’s a mammoth mathematical increase that is unmatched in business. Which leads us to number 29 on our list of reasons why to vote for Donald Trump.

#29 – TRUMP’S BUSINESS SUCCESSES – The Donald has massive accomplishments over several different business fields. Via his first career path, he became one of the greatest real estate developers in the history of the United States. From there, he successfully restructured and developed numerous businesses associated with real estate purchases, such as hotels, housing and casinos. This has extended into an entire Trump brand that includes: Trump Productions, Donald J. Trump Signature Collection (clothing and watches), Trump Model Management, Trump University, Trump Restaurants, Trump Catering, Trump Golf, Trump Chocolate, Trump Sales and Leasing, Trump Shuttle, Trump Ice Cream Parlor, Trump Vodka, Trump Ice, Trump Steaks, Trump Home Furnishings, GoTrump (a travel agency), Trump: The Game, and even Donald J. Trump: The Fragrance – the man apparently even smells good! Probably one of the reasons why he was able to successfully purchase and propel the Miss USA Pageant. Beyond this, Donald Trump is a monstrous best-selling author. And, oh, he is the creator and star of one of the all-time highest rated and most profitable TV shows, “The Apprentice.” His monumental successes in these widely diverse areas of business mean that the man has the ability to work in tandem – more so as the boss – with numerous very high-level entrepreneurs, business leaders, Hollywood executives and top publishers, and politicos. He knows how to negotiate and effectuate deals with people of all types of backgrounds, styles, personalities and egos. This translates into him being the person best suited to negotiate with the varied world leaders. Simply, he knows how to accomplish the highest level of transactions – and he is earnest with his views, while at the same time never allowing himself (or those who he cares for) to be pushed around. He will do the pushing for the people of the United States (that’s who he cares for), and execute the deals that will make America great again.

#28 – HE WILL BOMB THE SH$T OUT OF ISIS – Barack Obama initially likened ISIS to a high school junior varsity team. Like most matters, the Barackster was wrong. At this point, ISIS is likely the greatest terrorist organization that the world faces. At a recent speech in Iowa just a day before the Paris terrorist attacks, Trump advised that he would bomb the sh$t out of ISIS. Well, although we shouldn’t be hawkish and indiscriminately entering and perpetuating wars, bombing the sh$t out of ISIS is exactly what the U.S. needs to do. We need a leader who is willing to take this necessary action, in full force and not in just hitting a few isolated targets. And I don’t give a sh$t that Trump used the word sh$t. Screw the political correctness.

#27 – THERE IS NO REVEREND WRIGHT IN THE PICTURE – Jeremiah Wright, a racist minister from Chicago, once said “[The United States] government lied about their belief that all men were created equal. The truth is, they believed all white men were created equal.” In his infamous “God damn America” rant, he pounded his church podium, and proclaimed, “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.” His list of insane rhetoric goes on and on. Barack Obama, as a presidential candidate, and previously for years as a U.S. senator, Illinois state senator, and Chicago community organizer, was a longstanding member of Wright’s church. Obama and his wife, Michelle, met Wright in the early 1980 s and were weekly sermon attendees for over two decades. They not only listened religiously to Wright’s hateful rhetoric toward Caucasians, but were married by the minister, who later also baptized their children. Uh, does anyone else see a problem with this incredibly close personal relationship?…Well, Donald Trump has no such sordid religious or “mentor” relationships. He’s simply a good Christian, who follows God’s word and utilizes his own thoughts.

#26 – BERNIE SANDERS – It’s highly unlikely that the Bern-man will become the Democratic nominee, but with all of Hillary Clinton’s problems, it’s possible. Sanders is a self-avowed socialist (and probably really a communist). The dude is just frightening. Trump over Sanders by a landslide isn’t even a strong enough demand.

#25 – PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS – Trump has stated, “The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period”…Allow me to provide some clarity: PERIOD.

#24 – HOT, SMART WOMEN – Trump’s wife is great-looking and smart, which means he has good taste. His daughter is wickedly intelligent and hot, which means he has good genes. This obviously has merit.

#23 – SMASHES THOSE WHO ATTACK HIM – Repeatedly, the man has advised that “if you’re nice to me, I will be nice to you.” If people attack Donald Trump, however, he will hit them back with a verbal hacksaw. I like this in a guy.

#22 – WILL HELP SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS – Consistently, the Obaminator has been trying to sham small businesses into believing that he’s helping them with tax packages, grants and other magical dust and derivatives. Really, he has heaped trillions into the large financial institutions, the biggest of auto manufacturers, and the giant insurance companies. With regard to small business owners, other than minority groups, he has just taken a big dump on them…Trump has promised to cleanse this trend, with a tax and business plan that is very favorable to the backbone of America, small business owners.

#21 – MARTIN O’MALLEY – The former governor of Maryland seems like a reasonably intelligent man, but he holds most of the usual idiotic liberal views. Even though he has just a smidgeon of a shot of obtaining the D nod, he’s worth being concerned about – Trump definitively is the choice way ahead of this semi-southern progressive.

#20 – OPPOSES OBAMACARE – One of the worst pieces of legislation enacted in the history of the United States, ObamaCare is not only unconstitutional (regardless of what five people on the Supreme Court say), it is a massive step toward socialism, if not communism. This forced insurance bill, which eliminates patients’ ability to choose their own physicians is opposed by the vast majority of Americans. I get the idea that we elect public officials to vote on our behalf, but when your constituents are loudly screaming – en masse – that they hate what you’ve done, wouldn’t it be prudent to step away from your arrogance and give them what they want? Well, this bum (I mean, “Bam”) won’t repeal it on his own executive order. Trump ensures he will use every effort from the executive side, working with Congress, to terminate this awful legislation – and it can indeed be done.

#19 – ACTIVELY SEEKS AID FOR VETERANS – Donald Trump has created a multi-point plan to reform the Veterans Administration (commonly known as the VA), as an effort to benefit the scores of disabled vets largely ignored by the Obama Administration. Trump stated, “The current state of the Department of Veterans Affairs is absolutely unacceptable. Over 300,000 veterans died waiting for care. Corruption and incompetence were excused. Politicians in Washington have done too little too slowly to fix it. This situation can never happen again.” Trump promises to fix this dire situation, wherein his plan “will decrease wait times, improve healthcare outcomes, and facilitate a seamless transition from service into civilian life”…Bravo.

#18 – TRUMP IS FROM NEW YORK – The Donald is New York through and through. This is Empire State News – so being a home grown New Yorker is definitely a bonus!

#17 – JEB BUSH – He seems like a nice guy and definitely is an intelligent, thoughtful man. Also, he did fine economic and other work in Florida. I did like his father and brother as presidents. But this is translating into an American aristocracy. It’s way too dangerous to have that many members of the same immediate family be President of the United States. Jeb is the ultimate establishment candidate, and we need to get as far away from that as possible.

#16 – MARCO RUBIO – Might as well continue with the Florida, establishment guys. Rubio is one hell of a speaker – and debater. He’s smooth and polished, but he’s almost Hollywood and plastic. I think he actually could be a robot. I like him as a U.S. Senator, but not U.S. President. At least not right now. And let’s not forget that he’s a Bush protégé, so no matter what he currently argues, he’s total establishment. Let’s see where he’s at several years down the line.

#15 – AFFIRMATIVE ACTION – I would like to finally live in a country where there is complete equality. Where there are no quotas. Where one race or class of people are not afforded better government opportunities over another. If I lived during the years where slavery was legal, I would have died as an abolitionist to end that despicable practice. If I lived in the 1950s and 1960s, I probably would’ve marched with Martin Luther King during the Civil Rights movement. But guess what—it’s over. Blacks and other minorities no longer face the discrimination that they suffered in the past. Today, whites are the subjects of discriminatory practices. And minorities are still provided favorable treatment from the government—in education, jobs and elsewhere. That means that we’re not all treated equally. And since Obama, the current President of the United States, is a proponent of affirmative action – the practice of unfairly affording benefits to minorities over non-minorities – he’s the primary culprit in perpetuating separatism and divide among Americans…I believe that Donald Trump, as President of the United States, would propel legislation to overturn all affirmative action measures.

#14 – TOP NY FILMMAKER SUPPORTS TRUMP – This is my all-time favorite ‘Hollywood’ filmmaker – Kenneth Del Vecchio, who hails out of New York’s Hudson Valley. He’s not everyone’s favorite, however; many critics have called him inflammatory, offensive, and even a total ego-maniac. He makes the most controversial, hard-hitting and entertaining movies like The Life Zone (an anti-abortion movie), O.B.A.M. Nude (a prophetic satire about Obama), and Scavenger Killers (perhaps the craziest horror film ever, which I just watched on my TV On Demand the other night). Somehow he gets all these Academy Award actors in his movies, gets them distributed by the biggest companies in the business, yet he’s a total conservative. He’s also a Renaissance Man type of guy like Trump. Del Vecchio not only has made over 30 movies, but he’s also a best-selling author of novels and legal books, owner of one of the world’s largest film festivals, a top attorney and legal analyst on Fox News and other networks, and he’s a former judge (was youngest judge in the state). He’s also a New York guy who stimulated the hell out of the economy in Orange County, NY when he moved his Hoboken International Film Festival to the Empire State in 2013 and started shooting all of his movies in the Hudson Valley. I single Del Vecchio out because he’s a rare large filmmaker voice – surrounded by the liberal bastion of Hollywood – to speak up about his support of Trump, and he does it unabashedly. Del Vecchio said, “Donald Trump is a terrifically talented man, with a mind of great ideas. But, just as important, he is a winner, who has an unmatched achievement rate. He speaks with strength and intelligence, but he also speaks his true thoughts. The United States needs this exceptional kind of leader. And it’s a damn good thing that he’s a freedom-minded conservative.” The last sentence of Del Vecchio’s first novel, Pride & Loyalty, which he wrote when he was a 24-year-old law student is: “You can’t be loyal to everyone at once, because then you’re loyal to no one at all.” In other words, you can’t be everyone’s best friend; you have to pick and choose and determine what’s right. This reminds me of Donald Trump.

#13 – ISRAEL – It just doesn’t seem that our current president is supportive of Israel. And since they’re our greatest ally in the very troubled Middle East, that’s disconcerting. Donald Trump, on the other hand, is very supportive of Israel. He gets how important this relationship is to America.

#12 – ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT – Donald Trump is the ultimate anti-establishment leader. He is self-funding his presidential campaign and is a puppet to no one. Still, he can get along with – and negotiate with – anyone. At the end of the day, he’s going to do what his conscience tells him, and not a group of behind-the-scenes political bosses or donors. This is truly important – and impressive.

#11 – JOHN KASICH – What’s up with all this guy’s twitches?

#10 – CAPITALISM – Donald T is the ultimate capitalist. Socialism and communism never work – and this is the sad path that Obama has been sending America down. Trump will reverse this process, putting us back on track for the American Dream, which capitalism is central thereof.

#9 – CHRIS CHRISTIE – At the very beginning of Chris Christie’s political career/carnage, he ran in the 1994 Republican primary for Morris County Freeholder. The now-New Jersey Gov, in desperately attempting to unseat incumbent rivals Cecelia Laureys and Edward Tamm, ran a TV commercial that falsely accused them of being investigated by the Morris County Prosecutor’s Office. Laureys and Tamm sued Christie for slander, the oral form of defamation of character. The case settled in 1996, and, per Tamm, Christie was required to pay money and issue an apology in New Jersey newspapers. Christie indeed apologized, admitting that his statements in the political commercial “were not accurate. Neither of you were under investigation by the Morris County Prosecutor at any time.” Committing slander – a purposeful act to destroy another’s reputation by making false statements – is universally considered beyond the pale of normal political treachery. A guy like this shouldn’t be president.

#8 – WON’T BOW TO ANOTHER WORLD LEADER – Barackster did this. How embarrassing…Trump would never do this.

#7 – BEN CARSON – No doubt, the doctor is a mad smart man, and he has culminated a list of highly impressive accomplishments in his renowned medical career. But the dude swung a hammer at his mother and tried to stab one his friends. I don’t care if he did it in his teenage years; it’s a form of pathology that isn’t acceptable for the President of the United States. This isn’t a “boys will be boys” street fight. When weapons (and not just fists) are used – and on top of it, against family and friends – that’s beyond being a tough dude and is unnerving. It’s Carson’s finger that I don’t want on the button.

#6 – THE APPRENTICE – Come on, what a great show! And The Boss, Trump, created and starred in it.

#5 – CHINA – Very few Americans realize this – and only a small amount of top political leaders talk about this: China is our greatest foreign economic concern. Trump is an expert in trade policy, and he realizes this very daunting problem. The man has been talking about it for years. Speaking about U.S.–China trade reform, Trump said, “America has always been a trading nation. Under the Trump administration trade will flourish. However, for free trade to bring prosperity to America, it must also be fair trade. Our goal is not protectionism but accountability. America fully opened its markets to China but China has not reciprocated. Its Great Wall of Protectionism uses unlawful tariff and non-tariff barriers to keep American companies out of China and to tilt the playing field in their favor. If you give American workers a level playing field, they will win. At its heart, this plan is a negotiating strategy to bring fairness to our trade with China. The results will be huge for American businesses and workers. Jobs and factories will stop moving offshore and instead stay here at home. When Donald J. Trump is president, China will be on notice that America is back in the global leadership business and that their days of currency manipulation and cheating are over. We will cut a better deal with China that helps American businesses and workers compete” …Balls to the wall of China: love it!

#4 – HILLARY CLINTON – Umm…What else needs to be said?

#3 – IMMIGRATION – There has been no more outspoken presidential (or other) candidate against illegal immigration than Donald J. Trump. To correct the record, the gentleman does not oppose legal immigration. He opposes illegal immigration. He has an actual plan to remediate the ills that illegal immigration has wrought about America. First, build a wall. It’s not too expensive, he correctly argues. China has a wall that is substantially longer than the wall that we need at our southern borders. If China did it countless years ago, the U.S. can build it today. Thereafter, we must fervently monitor the wall…Trump’s position to deport the 11 million illegals is not absurd; conversely, it is quite reasonable. He allots for their ability to return to America – legally. Families need not be torn apart in carrying out the deportations. The illegal aliens’ children can go with their parents, as what kind of parents would leave their children behind?…Trump recognizes that a significant reason for our joblessness woes (and corresponding economic troubles) are the direct result of illegal immigrants’ presence in the United States. Also, he sees through the Democrats’ compassion façade: the true reason they argue for amnesty is just to shore up a greater block of votes.

#2 – THE ECONOMY – Plainly, the economy stinks under Obama. From the get-go, he blamed President George W. Bush for an inherited mess. My apologies, but we’re seven years into the Obama presidency! His “bad inheritance” claim lost luster, if it had any, long ago. Obama simply cannot rejuvenate the economy. Trump, for the many reasons enunciated above, can – simply, we need a man of his abilities, experiences and guts to make America’s economy great again.

#1 – ABORTION – Regardless of the economic crisis facing the United States and abroad, abortion – the systematic mass murder of human beings – remains the most important issue that mankind faces. It can’t be otherwise, because nothing is more crucial than saving lives. Any pro-life person regards the termination of abortion as his/her primary moral and political focus. Hillary Clinton and the small swath of Democrat potentials are pro-choice (i.e. – anti-life). We need a pro-life president. Trump fits that bill.
Donald Trump is the president that America needs to immediately become great again. That’s part of his slogan – and I believe it is indeed true.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Big Reason TO NOT Vote for Trump - 11/23/15 04:52 PM

This is not a man to be trusted with the power of the presidency....

Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/23/15 05:15 PM

Donald Trump is constantly lying


(From Daniel Drezner's article in the Washington Post)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/11/23/donald-trump-is-constantly-lying/

We are at the point in Donald Trump’s campaign when it’s difficult to decide whether to focus on his unconstitutional policy proposals or his blatant lies. I mean, this is just from yesterday:



Let’s focus today on Trump’s lies. Trump’s claims about “thousands and thousands of people” in New Jersey celebrating the 9/11 attacks have already been debunked by both The Post’s Glenn Kessler and PolitiFact’s Lauren Carroll, so we don’t need to belabor them here. So let’s focus on the lies not covered in the above tweet.

First, there’s this one from Trump’s own Twitter feed:




As Kevin Drum explains:

[W]ouldn’t you know it: It contains a wee racial error. It claims that most whites are killed by blacks, but in 2014, which is the latest full-year homicide data available from the FBI, 82 percent of whites were killed by other whites and only 15 percent were killed by blacks.

Trump’s tweeted graphic swaps the the numbers for the offender’s race — but only for white victims. For black victims, the numbers in the graphic are roughly correct. This makes it look like blacks kill everyone.

The New Republic’s Jeet Heer notes:

By wildly inflating the likelihood of a murderer of a white person to be black (an exaggeration of nearly sixfold), Trump is catering to the worst sort of racism. Perhaps the icing on the cake of this anti-black outburst is that the source of information cited in the tweet — the “Crime Statistics Bureau” of San Francisco — doesn’t seem to exist.

What’s equally as disturbing as the bogus crime statistic is that, according to Raw Story’s Travis Gettys, that figure came from a virulently anti-Semitic Twitter account.

Now we’re at the point in this campaign when Trump’s defense for this — and those of his supporters — will be predictable. Trump was just RTing someone else’s lie, so it’s not really his fault. Trump’s MO on this ever since he’s become a candidate has been a simple five-step plan:

Say/tweet/retweet outrageous thing;
Dominate the next news cycle;
Bully the media that focus on the outrageous statement;
Backtrack/claim misinterpretation;
Sustain polling advantage.

Buried in the lies that Trump has told over the past week, however, is a contradictory set of policy positions that he won’t back away from. In Trump’s interview with the Wall Street Journal’s editorial board last week, the following exchange took place:

Mr. Gigot noted that “you said in the last debate you’re a 100% free trader but you just don’t like some of the deals that have been negotiated.”

Mr. Trump: “Correct.”

Mr. Gigot: “So is there an example of a deal, trade deal, that we’ve done in the past that you like, that you point to as a model?”

Mr. Trump: “Not many. Nafta was a disaster. Not many. We could have great deals.” He then detours into corporate inversions, made-in-Japan backhoes, currency devaluation, Chinese hotel furniture, the recent GOP debate and the [WSJ] editorial he disliked. For the record, Mr. Trump always knew China wasn’t a party to the Pacific pact.

Mr. Gigot tried again: “But you said you don’t like the big deals, so you like bilaterals. But is there an example of one that the U.S. has negotiated or signed that you like in recent history?”

Mr. Trump: “No.”

Mr. Gigot: “The Colombia deal, the Korea deal, the Australia deal?”

Mr. Trump: “No, I don’t like any of them. I think we’re bad negotiators.”

It’s pretty much impossible to be a “100% free-trader” and not support any trade liberalizing agreement.

The rest of the interview is depressing reading for any trade policy wonk. He proposes threatening a trade war with China to obtain unspecified concessions from Beijing, a policy that would likely be an economic and political disaster. In the interview, Trump demonstrates zero knowledge about the World Trade Organization specifically or international trade in general. All of this is, unfortunately, consistent with Trump’s Big Lie about the global economy.

So to sum up: Trump has lied so many times about so many things during the past week that it’s difficult to keep track of all of them. But it doesn’t matter whether one focuses on Trump’s attitudes about crime or American Muslims or trade policy. He lies about all of these issues. And he will continue to lie as long as it works for him.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/24/15 09:17 AM

Based on what Trump's recent statements, it would appear that he's in favor of establishing a national database requiring everyone to register for a photo ID card that will specify the person's name, date and place of birth, race, religion, ethnicity, political affiliation and NRA membership status.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/25/15 12:22 PM

OK, maybe Trump exaggerates a little but he gets the point across.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/11/23/live-jersey-trump-right-muslims-celebrate-911-nj-saw-277082
I live in Jersey and Trump is right: Muslims DID celebrate on 9/11 in NJ . . . we saw it!
November 23, 2015 | Carmine Sabia

It did happen, and I saw it.

Donald Trump is telling the truth about Muslims celebrating in New Jersey on September 11, 2001.

I drove with family members though Patterson, N.J. that morning, after the planes hit. It’s not the kind of thing you forget.

I didn’t see thousands of Muslims celebrating but I absolutely saw a pocket, perhaps 100, jumping for joy at the sight of the smoke rising from where the Twin Towers used to be.

The funny part of the media-made controversy is that until Trump recalled his experience on that day, these events were a commonly accepted fact by Jerseyans.
Others in N.J. have spoken about witnessing these events.

Suddenly we are all being called liars in order for Trump-haters to cast aspersions on him.
Well, I defy anyone in the media to call me a liar to my face.

Was the Washington Post lying in an article on September 18, 2001 when it wrote the following?

In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.

I know what I saw, Donald Trump knows what he saw and scores of N.J. residents know what they saw.

What none of us need is some talking head who doesn’t live here or didn’t see what we did to tell us what happened.

I encourage anyone who witnessed the celebrations in N.J., N.Y., or any other city that day to share their stories on Twitter with the hashtag #TrumpIsright.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/p...e-93aa433fafdc/

Northern New Jersey Draws Probers' Eyes
By Serge F. Kovaleski and Fredrick Kunkle September 18, 2001

[Nov. 23, 2015: Fact checking Donald Trump’s outrageous claim that ‘thousands’ of New Jersey Muslims celebrated 9/11 attacks]

The FBI investigation into the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon has led agents back to a familiar area: northern New Jersey.

It was there, in Jersey City, just across the Hudson River from Manhattan, that a Muslim cell plotted the 1993 bombing of the twin towers and sought to destroy other New York landmarks as part of an urban guerrilla war against the United States.

It is believed that 13 of those detained by federal authorities for questioning in its probe into the worst terrorist act in U.S. history are from northeastern New Jersey, some from the same Journal Square area where suspects in the 1993 bombing lived.

Teams of agents have also conducted myriad interviews and seized computer and paper records at apartment buildings, businesses, hotels and motels in at least 10 towns and cities in northern New Jersey -- from Weehawken to Wayne, and Fort Lee to Florham Park. Furthermore, FBI teams and state troopers have done the same at several flight training schools and charter businesses at small airports in the area, including the Morristown and Teeterboro airports.

At Morristown Municipal Airport, Tom O'Looney, president of Certified Flyers Inc., said investigators left him a 20-page FBI watch list containing the names of 300 people. Michael Glover, director of American Flyers at the Morristown airport, said authorities asked him about any foreign nationals who may have attended his flight school. But Glover said none were on his rolls.

Law enforcement officials said northeastern New Jersey could be potentially fertile ground as 4,000 FBI special agents search for accomplices, associates and ultimately further clues about last Tuesday's devastating terrorist strikes against symbols of American financial and military might.

In October 1995, Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, an Egyptian cleric who delivered fiery sermons at a run-down mosque in Jersey City, was convicted of directing the conspiracy to blow up the United Nations, an FBI building, and three bridges and tunnels linking New York and New Jersey. He was also convicted of being part of a plot to kill Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. Sayyid Nosair of Jersey City and Cliffside Park was also charged in the 1990 killing of Rabbi Meir Kahane in Manhattan. The Kahane murder was the beginning of a series of militant acts by the Muslim cell that was encouraged by Abdel-Rahman, the group's spiritual leader.

One such act was the Feb. 26, 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six people, injured more than 1,000 and inflicted $500 million worth of damage.

"The area in and around Jersey City has provided individuals in the past who were bent on terrorism. So I am sure that area is of great interest to investigators right now," said James K. Kallstrom, the former head of the FBI's New York office. "They are not knocking down any straw men at this point. I think now is the time when the broad spectrum of possibilities has to be looked at."

In Jersey City, an urban enclave of 240,055 people that is home to one of the largest Arab populations among U.S. cities, members of that Middle Eastern community said they are being unfairly targeted and misunderstood by the FBI.

"First of all, I think the people [convicted] of the bombing of the World Trade Center were innocent. . . . The Muslims are an easy way out, especially when you don't know who committed the act," said Essam Abouhamer, director of the Altawheed Islam Center. "The message of Islam is to be peaceful with yourself and others."

Hasam Ibrahim, 37, who came to the United States 16 years ago from Egypt and owns a limousine company in Jersey City, said he and others in similar circumstances moved here in search of better lives and are proud to be Americans.

"It is impossible," he said of suggestions that a terrorist cell in or around Jersey City may have helped plot the deadly attacks last week. "People here from the Middle East just want to work and have good lives. I love the United States. I eat in the United States. I earn money in the United States, and my children go to schools in the United States. A lot of people in this Arab community feel like me."

Investigators said at least two of the hijackers, Nawaq Al Hamzi and Salem Al Hamzi, are believed to have had addresses in Wayne and Fort Lee. They apparently rented a mail box in Fort Lee, at Mail Boxes Etc.

In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners' plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.

Over the weekend, authorities raided a small apartment building in Jersey City to search an apartment rented by two men who were detained in Texas on Wednesday, on possible immigration violations. Mohammed Jaweed Azmath, 47, and Ayub Ali Khan, 51, both from India, were taken into custody Wednesday on an Amtrak train in Texas, carrying $5,000 in cash, hair dye and box cutter knives -- weapons said to have been used by the hijackers. During the raids in Jersey City, authorities detained a third man, Abdoul Salam Achou, 37, whose visa application allegedly expired on Sept. 1.

Investigators also detained three men in Elizabeth, N.J., who were carrying a large amount of cash and a one-way ticket to Syria. The three men, Ahmad Kilfat, 45, Mohammad Mahmoud Al Raqqad, 37, and Nicholas Makrakis, 27, were in a red Pontiac that matched an FBI description of a vehicle connected with the attacks.

Yemina Barbosa, 46, who lives across the street from the three-story apartment house on Tulip Street in Passaic, N.J. -- a mostly black and Latino neighborhood where Kilfat and Al Raqqad were thought to live -- said expensive, "sporty" cars would often park in front of the house.

Neighbors said a car that they believed belongs to the two men was towed tonight from in front of the apartment house, after the vehicle was examined by a bomb squad.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/25/15 12:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
OK, maybe Trump exaggerates a little but he gets the point across.
A little? laugh

So there is at least one person, Carmine Sabia, who claims to have seen the celebrations described by Trump. I have no idea what Sabia saw, but I do know that there are also some people who believe that UFOs have landed and extra terrestrial beings have captured humans to examine them. That doesn't make it true.

As to the second "story," it tangentially mentions that "law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river." There is no further record nor any corroboration that the parties, if they happened, were in any way related to the attacks. Personally, I think Trump believes he saw this, which raises a big question as to his mental state to be president.
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 11/25/15 01:55 PM


Big question for sure.
Trumps cotton mouth bit raises red flag.

Donald Trump insisted he witnessed television footage "thousands" of Muslims in New Jersey "cheering" the 9/11 attacks, despite the fact that claim was long since debunked

Read on:
http://www.snopes.com/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 11/25/15 02:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan

Big question for sure.
Trumps cotton mouth bit raises red flag.

Donald Trump insisted he witnessed television footage "thousands" of Muslims in New Jersey "cheering" the 9/11 attacks, despite the fact that claim was long since debunked

Read on:
http://www.snopes.com/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/


It must have been a video wink
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/25/15 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga

It must have been a video wink
Or a video game perhaps. Strange that with all the publicity this has gotten, no one has come forward with some actual verifiable video footage of what Trump thinks he saw. It still appears that he's hallucinating and believes it.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/26/15 09:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Well, the Donald is certainly doing his part to inspire terrorism here in the US.

Trump's sense of how to deal with dissent and his view of how to deal with minorities presents a frightening image of his plans for America.


It's not Trump's job now to deal with terrorists. The U.S. was winning the fight against terrorists until someone apologized.

This isn't the America where people immigrate to for better opportunity anymore. It's far from how it was for at least my ancestors. People, who are terrorists, are coming here for nothing more than to establish a foothold and carry out terroristic attacks on American soil. Period. Its been done here before. It has happened in other countries and some other countries are finally seeing it for what it is. The spread of terrorism. Also, with this country being broke, we can no longer afford to keep going the way we are going by giving illegal aliens handouts especially when those handouts go on generation after generation.

You just don't like Trump because he is telling you matter of factly how it is. And you can't handle it because you have been lied to for 7 years. You prefer to be lied to. Alot of Americans, such as myself, are finding the outspoken and blunt Trump to be refreshing. Trump has always been that way. He hasn't changed in order to suit himself better for what a specific political party needs to do to pander for votes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling a shovel a shovel.

If someone pisses on your head and tells you it's raining it's ok not to want to be lied to.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/26/15 10:29 AM

cwjie's Calvin and Hobbs post came up with the perfect term for you: Information Impaired






BTW, Trump isn't telling it like it is, he's describing his delusional fantasies. Mocking people with disabilities, encouraging supporters to "rough up" protesters, planning to round up groups of people based largely on their surname, advocating national ID which specify a person's religion and monitoring religion, vowing to "restore" national pride, all sound more like a certain Austrian's political ambitions for Germany in the 1930s. But as I have said before, you'd probably fit right in with that crowd.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 11/26/15 06:27 PM

http://armored-column.com/obama-is-twice-as-unpatriotic-debt-up-8000000000000/

Go Trump!
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/26/15 08:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan

Big question for sure.
Trumps cotton mouth bit raises red flag.

Donald Trump insisted he witnessed television footage "thousands" of Muslims in New Jersey "cheering" the 9/11 attacks, despite the fact that claim was long since debunked

Read on:
http://www.snopes.com/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/

Wow a link to Snopes with nothing to prove the debunking they claim but with an article about George Stephanopoulos questioning him.

Trump Insists He Witnessed Cheering Muslims on 9/11
Donald Trump insisted he witnessed television footage "thousands" of Muslims in New Jersey "cheering" the 9/11 attacks, despite the fact that claim was long since debunked.


Well my fiancé says she saw the same videos and there were a hundred or so in New Jersey and thousands in other countries around the world. I don’t know why the videos haven’t resurfaced. Maybe Obama had them censored.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036609_mainstream_media_White_House_influence.html
New York Times openly admits mainstream media stories are scripted by the White House
Millions of Americans have long suspected that the so-called "mainstream media" is big-time controlled, whether selectively or institutionally. A recent New York Times story not only substantiates that belief, it proves just how controlled the messages are that are coming from those who mean to rule over us. What's more, the story demonstrates that most major media sources are complicit in the packaging of information the public is "allowed" to hear.

The revelations may not necessarily be groundbreaking news to many Americans who already suspected they weren't getting unfiltered and unbiased reporting, though the extent of control over the information reaching the public from the major campaigns may surprise many.

But the revelations should certainly be disturbing to voters who are trying to make choices based on altered or incomplete information.

Of course, that's the point. Full disclosure would mean giving a rival something to campaign for (or against), so it's understandable for a candidate to want to carefully control his or her message.

Where it becomes shameful is when the media willingly goes along.

Sorry - You can't print that

Consider the re-election campaign of President Obama. According to the Times, quotes from the candidates often come back to them from the campaign headquarters in Chicago "redacted, stripped of colorful metaphors, colloquial language and anything even mildly provocative." They are emailed to reporters who have been allowed, essentially, to interview campaign officials, but only under the caveat that "the press office has veto power over what statements can be quoted and attributed by name."


[Note: you may recall if you want to when several reporters resigned rather than be censored by the White House.]


But an article on Snopes about George Stephanopoulos questioning Trump is hardly proof that it didn’t happen.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-w...nton-i-love-you

Former Democratic operative turned journalist George Stephanopoulos was rocked this week by the revelation that he donated $75,000 to the Clinton Foundation, an action he kept from the public and his bosses at ABC. This is the same Stephanopoulos who grilled the author of a book critical of the foundation's finances.

But Stephanopoulos's affinity for the Clintons has never been in doubt. In 1999, the now-ABC anchor recounted his "love" for Hillary Clinton and the heartfelt affection he received in response. On page 428 of his memoir All Too Human, Stephanopoulos recounts Bill Clinton's reelection night, 1996. After embracing the then-First Lady, Mrs. Clinton allegedly blurted, "I love you, George Stephanopoulos." The political operative responded, "I love you too."

From the closing pages of his book:

Pages 427-428
Hillary was in the back bedroom, helping Chelsea get dressed. Just before I left for a victory lap with the network anchors, I knocked on her door. She peeked out, "Just a minute," then came into the hall. Only the two of us were there, separated by a wall from the suite where the returns were being announced and Clinton was holding court. This was our private good-bye. She game me a hug, then held at arm's length for an extra second, a hand on each of my shoulders, her eyes shining.

We smiled through the silence. Victory was vindication – even sweeter for her than her husband. She paid a high price, taken harder hits, achieved fewer dreams. Now she'd have a second chance, and I wished her luck. She did the same for me. All the stresses and threats and resentments, all the times the two of us had clashed because I blamed her for being too rigid and she blamed me for not being as "tough as Kennedy's men" – all that was behind us now. We had survived. We had on. All would be well.

"I love you, George Stephanopoulos."

"I love you too."

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scot...llarys-best-day

Clinton donor and Good Morning America co-host George Stephanopoulos on Wednesday touted Hillary Clinton's campaign assessment that Tuesday’s debate was the “best" ever. Stephanopoulos opened the show by cheering, “Democrats took over Las Vegas last night and after their first debate, here was the scene at Hillary's party.”

He then played a clip of a crowd simply chanting, “Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!” Uncritically repeating, the journalist parroted, “Good reviews coming in for the Democratic front-runner. Her team called it the best day of the campaign.”
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/26/15 08:47 PM

347 days and counting before elections

http://www.270towin.com/2016-countdown-clock/
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/26/15 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Well my fiancé says she saw the same videos and there were a hundred or so in New Jersey and thousands in other countries around the world. I don’t know why the videos haven’t resurfaced. Maybe Obama had them censored.
Yes, Rich, Obama had them censored. It's all part of a huge conspiracy involving tens of thousands of journalists, TV and radio station employees, police officers, etc.

Seriously, whatever your fiancé saw, or believes she saw, couldn't possible have happened anywhere but Jersey City. Granted, there were "celebrations" in some middle eastern cities, but don't you think it's a stretch to say that there were thousands of people "celebrating" in Jersey City, yet no police reports, newspaper reports, TV videos, exist to corroborate an event that large?

Trump is beating the drums to stir up hatred, picking out groups to blame, groups to fear, groups to incarcerate or deport. Mass delusion is his ally.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 11/27/15 09:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Teonan

Big question for sure.
Trumps cotton mouth bit raises red flag.

Donald Trump insisted he witnessed television footage "thousands" of Muslims in New Jersey "cheering" the 9/11 attacks, despite the fact that claim was long since debunked

Read on:
http://www.snopes.com/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/

Wow a link to Snopes with nothing to prove the debunking they claim but with an article about George Stephanopoulos questioning him.

Trump Insists He Witnessed Cheering Muslims on 9/11
Donald Trump insisted he witnessed television footage "thousands" of Muslims in New Jersey "cheering" the 9/11 attacks, despite the fact that claim was long since debunked.

Well my fiancé says she saw the same videos and there were a hundred or so in New Jersey and thousands in other countries around the world. I don’t know why the videos haven’t resurfaced. Maybe Obama had them censored.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036609_mainstream_media_White_House_influence.html
New York Times openly admits mainstream media stories are scripted by the White House
Millions of Americans have long suspected that the so-called "mainstream media" is big-time controlled, whether selectively or institutionally. A recent New York Times story not only substantiates that belief, it proves just how controlled the messages are that are coming from those who mean to rule over us. What's more, the story demonstrates that most major media sources are complicit in the packaging of information the public is "allowed" to hear.

The revelations may not necessarily be groundbreaking news to many Americans who already suspected they weren't getting unfiltered and unbiased reporting, though the extent of control over the information reaching the public from the major campaigns may surprise many.

But the revelations should certainly be disturbing to voters who are trying to make choices based on altered or incomplete information.

Of course, that's the point. Full disclosure would mean giving a rival something to campaign for (or against), so it's understandable for a candidate to want to carefully control his or her message.

Where it becomes shameful is when the media willingly goes along.

Sorry - You can't print that

Consider the re-election campaign of President Obama. According to the Times, quotes from the candidates often come back to them from the campaign headquarters in Chicago "redacted, stripped of colorful metaphors, colloquial language and anything even mildly provocative." They are emailed to reporters who have been allowed, essentially, to interview campaign officials, but only under the caveat that "the press office has veto power over what statements can be quoted and attributed by name."


[Note: you may recall if you want to when several reporters resigned rather than be censored by the White House.]


But an article on Snopes about George Stephanopoulos questioning Trump is hardly proof that it didn’t happen.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-w...nton-i-love-you

Former Democratic operative turned journalist George Stephanopoulos was rocked this week by the revelation that he donated $75,000 to the Clinton Foundation, an action he kept from the public and his bosses at ABC. This is the same Stephanopoulos who grilled the author of a book critical of the foundation's finances.

But Stephanopoulos's affinity for the Clintons has never been in doubt. In 1999, the now-ABC anchor recounted his "love" for Hillary Clinton and the heartfelt affection he received in response. On page 428 of his memoir All Too Human, Stephanopoulos recounts Bill Clinton's reelection night, 1996. After embracing the then-First Lady, Mrs. Clinton allegedly blurted, "I love you, George Stephanopoulos." The political operative responded, "I love you too."

From the closing pages of his book:

Pages 427-428
Hillary was in the back bedroom, helping Chelsea get dressed. Just before I left for a victory lap with the network anchors, I knocked on her door. She peeked out, "Just a minute," then came into the hall. Only the two of us were there, separated by a wall from the suite where the returns were being announced and Clinton was holding court. This was our private good-bye. She game me a hug, then held at arm's length for an extra second, a hand on each of my shoulders, her eyes shining.

We smiled through the silence. Victory was vindication – even sweeter for her than her husband. She paid a high price, taken harder hits, achieved fewer dreams. Now she'd have a second chance, and I wished her luck. She did the same for me. All the stresses and threats and resentments, all the times the two of us had clashed because I blamed her for being too rigid and she blamed me for not being as "tough as Kennedy's men" – all that was behind us now. We had survived. We had on. All would be well.

"I love you, George Stephanopoulos."

"I love you too."

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scot...llarys-best-day

Clinton donor and Good Morning America co-host George Stephanopoulos on Wednesday touted Hillary Clinton's campaign assessment that Tuesday’s debate was the “best" ever. Stephanopoulos opened the show by cheering, “Democrats took over Las Vegas last night and after their first debate, here was the scene at Hillary's party.”

He then played a clip of a crowd simply chanting, “Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!” Uncritically repeating, the journalist parroted, “Good reviews coming in for the Democratic front-runner. Her team called it the best day of the campaign.”

WOW! You still haven't quite dialed-in to exactly how that whole "burden of proof" thing works, have you ? ? ?

Even more interesting, is how you discount innumerable reputable arguments to the contrary while simultaneously promoting pure rumor, innuendo and endless hypotheticals, all the while expecting everyone to take your word for comments allegedly made by your "fiancé" based upon a recollection of events that allegedly happened a decade and a half ago.

Don't do as you do... do as you say. Right, Rich ? ? ?
crazy crazy crazy
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/27/15 11:05 AM

Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 11/27/15 12:41 PM


grin
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/27/15 06:48 PM

No Timmy, there is no “burden” to prove anything. Innumerable generally means more than one Snopes article that did not prove that it did not happen. As I replied in Media Bias, I don’t believe there were thousands in New Jersey. France is now working to shut down Mosques where hate is preached, which is what The Donald was alluding to here. But all a President has to do is enforce existing laws to do their job. I don’t believe Hillary would do that.
Posted by: Spi63

Re: Donald Trump - 11/28/15 08:21 AM

Sorry People, but anyone that really thinks in their heart and soul that the "Trumpster", rhymes with Dumpster, is material for the white house is truly brain dead. But as with all blowhards his star will soon crash along with that other idiot Carson. And next will be HRC, then the one left can make our, my, country great again. By making the middle class stronger and restore Her back to greatness. Go Bernie......
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 11/28/15 12:36 PM



If you think Carson is an idiot, he is a neurosurgeon after-all, what does that make you, oh never mind.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/28/15 01:12 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
If you think Carson is an idiot, he is a neurosurgeon after-all, what does that make you, oh never mind.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/28/15 01:13 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
If you think Carson is an idiot, he is a neurosurgeon after-all, what does that make you, oh never mind.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/28/15 05:28 PM

http://prntly.com/blog/?p=2229
Democrats switching party to vote Trump in Primary

Groundbreaking studies are showing that many Democrats are switching parties to vote for Donald J Trump in the primaries.

Trump’s support from the Blue Collar worker, a typically Democratic strength group, are now selecting Donald Trump in levels not seen since FDR.

Now there is more and more anecdotal evidence proving that Democrats are switching their party registration to vote for Donald Trump, according to numerous videos, especially those from “Diamond and Silk,” two facebook and youtube celebrities who have become staunch Trump Supporters.

Lynette “Diamond” Hardaway and Rochelle “Silk” Richardson who “stump for Trump” in a series of feisty, irreverent YouTube video rants, which at times are NSFW due to language, have launched a new movement on social media.

The North Carolina sisters want Democrats to “ditch and switch” so they can vote for billionaire businessman Donald Trump in the presidential primary. In a new video, they claim this is necessary to circumvent what they describe as media bias and trickery being waged against Donald Trump.

In particular, Diamond and Silk are huge fans of Donald Trump’s economic message, especially his vow to bring jobs back to America, which they feel will be particularly important for the African American community. They also support his plan to secure the southern border with a wall.

Donald Trump has a significant lead in the race to win over likely Iowa caucus-goers, according to the first CNN/ORC poll in the state this cycle. Overall, Trump tops the field with 22% and is the candidate seen as best able to handle top issues including the economy, illegal immigration and terrorism. He’s most cited as the one with the best chance of winning the general election, and, by a wide margin, as the candidate most likely to change the way things work in Washington.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/29/15 09:02 AM

Has it occurred to you that when a Democrat votes in a Republican primary (or vice versa), they're really hoping that nominating a particular candidate will make it much easier for their own party to win the general election? It wouldn't surprise me to see Republicans voting for O'Malley in the Democratic primaries.
Posted by: Spi63

Re: Donald Trump - 11/30/15 09:12 AM

OK Mr. cwjxyz, Maybe be you would have carson operate on your (?) brain, but after reading the things he thinks, there is no way. But then again, reading his stupid rants and yours, did he hack into your brain?
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 11/30/15 09:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Spi63
OK Mr. cwjxyz, Maybe be you would have carson operate on your (?) brain, but after reading the things he thinks, there is no way. But then again, reading his stupid rants and yours, did he hack into your brain?


Guy must be crazy putting out such stupid rants.



It would seem the only one ranting is----oh nevermind whistle

PS I would use him as my Dr. even if I did not agree with him politically.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/30/15 12:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Has it occurred to you that when a Democrat votes in a Republican primary (or vice versa), they're really hoping that nominating a particular candidate will make it much easier for their own party to win the general election? It wouldn't surprise me to see Republicans voting for O'Malley in the Democratic primaries.

Yes, it did occur to me and the thought of voting in the Democrat primary also occurred to me. In TN we can vote in either one, but not both.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 11/30/15 12:52 PM

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-201...nt-media-voters

Prediction: Donald Trump may win all 50 states -- 'Awareness of invincibility' dawning on GOP establishment, media, voters
by Barry Farber, WND

Admit it. Donald Trump is a volcano in a forest of Ronson lighters.

You’re not going to stop him. He may carry all 50 states.

The awareness of Trump’s invincibility is dawning slowly for several reasons. Nobody wants to be revealed as a fool if Trump flames out. Also, such a breathtaking prediction hates to be borne all alone. “Out on a limb” is a lonely place for a pundit to be. Then, too, a lot of heretofore wise observers are obeying the instinct to adopt a “business as usual” stance. We put subconscious pressure on ourselves so that yesterday’s “clown-by-consensus” isn’t too abruptly hailed as the winner this absurdly long before the first vote is cast. The dreamers in the GOP are still reassuring one another that Trump’s domination is a “summertime thing,” and that come fall the public anger will be gone and the people will ask themselves, “Is this the kind of person we want in the Oval Office?” Dream on, Dear Establishment. People are already asking that question, and the answer is not just “Yes”; it’s “Hell, Yes!”

Eight years ago Americans decided to take a chance on a “community organizer” without one single discernable accomplishment, not even authorship of his own book! (Thank you, Jack Cashill!) Obama was editor of the Harvard Law Review – and never wrote a single editorial. And we elected and re-elected him.

And now we’re taking the measure of a billionaire 11 times over who’s boldly carved his signature in stone and steel and golf-course green around the world, written best-selling books and produced and starred in dazzlingly high-rated TV shows, and you’re trying to tell me this world-class accomplishmentarian is a summertime thing set to evaporate with the first fall chill? In a pig’s eye! Even his worst enemies agree that Donald Trump gets things done. Meanwhile, your community organizer is now a political kidney stone that will take 17 more months to pass. You don’t like Trump’s rhetoric, maybe? What’swrong with “I love this country and I want to make it great again”?

Donald Trump has ruptured every rule of nature and human nature, science and political science, and continues to sneer at the Law of Gravity itself as he personally and deliberately pushes every down-button while his elevator nonetheless continues up, up and up.

Sen. John McCain satisfies most people’s definition of a war hero. Here comes Trump mocking McCain as being a “war hero only because he was captured.” Some of those “wise observers” declared Trump doomed even at that early point. And what happened? Trump gained!

At the Fox News debate of Aug. 6, some sinister force that wanted to stick it to Trump led things off, not by obeying the natural and organic procedure of calling for all those candidates who vowed to support the eventual Republican nominee to please raise their hands. No. The moderator instead called for “all those who will not pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee” to please raise their hands. And whoever imposed that reverse wording got his wish. There stood Trump in the middle of the pack, all alone with his right hand in the air. And what happened? Trump gained.

Doesn’t our culture forbid us to hit a woman? Meet Fox’s rapturous Megyn Kelly, whose very appearance sets the syrups of the soul all a-sizzle even before her formidable IQ approaches the scale for a weigh-in. Kelly ticked off a litany of horrendous things Trump has uttered to denigrate women. Trump struck back hard. And what happened? Trump gained.

Aren’t we supposed to tire quickly in the presence of a braggart? Trump plunges with gusto and abandon into firestorms of self-praise, citing his fabulous fortune, huge achievements, the hordes of people who love him and his admittedly impressive record for “getting things done”! Trump unloads like a sportscaster whose son just scored the game-winning touchdown in the Super Bowl, as he shares the news that there was just a poll in Nevada, and “I came in first among Hispanics!” Aren’t candidates supposed to use subtle comments to smuggle across feelings likely to win them votes? Trump puts it all out on the front porch where the goats can get it. “And I’m going to take care of our warriors, whom I love! I love our wounded warriors!” Again, Trump gained.

Is Trump lying about the slump America’s fallen into? And isn’t it true that millions too few Americans are working, that our military has been eviscerated, that our allies distrust us, that our enemies no longer respect us, that we get beaten by smarter adversaries across every negotiating table? And isn’t it true that smart, gutsy leadership that knows what it’s doing could, indeed, make us great again?

If the anti-Trump rap weren’t so pitiful I’d be much angrier. Forever we’ve longed for a leader who didn’t have to mortgage himself out to fat-cats, a leader free to appoint the best people and not the best donors. Now we’ve got him.

During the Civil War a group of less successful generals complained to Lincoln that Gen. Grant was an alcoholic.

“Find out what he likes,” snapped Abe. “And send him another case.”

I don’t think Trump drinks.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 11/30/15 03:36 PM

Trump carrying all 50 states??? Wow! That's must be some really great stuff that Farber's been smoking! He's hallucinating just like Trump!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/01/15 05:48 AM

I think if Trump is elected president, I am afraid he may very will become our Hitler and be the final nail in the coffin of American democracy. He tells lie after lie and his supporters don't care? I don't understand that at all.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/02/15 01:24 PM


http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read-can-gop-really-sink-trump-n472726

As Donald Trump leads yet another national poll, the New York Times' Jonathan Martin asks a question that has consumed the political world: Can anyone inside the Republican Party -- via negative TV ads or a scorched-earth campaign -- stop Trump? And if so, do they even have the will do it? "Almost everyone in the party's upper echelons agrees something must be done, and almost no one is willing to do it," Martin writes. (Where have we heard that one before? Sounds a lot like foreign policy in the Middle East, right?) But here is our follow-up question: Even if there's the will to take down Trump, can you do it when there is almost perfect information out there about him? After all, you can't say that Trump's background, claims, and positions have gone unchallenged over the past six months. And he has perfect name identification in our NBC/WSJ polls: All Americans know who he is. When past presidential insurgents have failed -- see Howard Dean, Herman Cain, or Ben Carson (at least for now) -- it's been because voters get new information about them. But what new information stops Trump? And does it even exist?

Can electability and fitness for office work against Trump when Republicans think Hillary is beatable and unfit for the presidency?

Given the perfect information on Trump, if establishment Republicans truly want to stop him, we can see them making these two arguments: One, he's unfit for the presidency. Two, he can't beat Hillary Clinton (today's Quinnipiac poll has Clinton topping Trump by six points, 47%-41%).
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/02/15 02:34 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sand...hp_ref=politics

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), a contender for the Democratic presidential nomination, is gaining steam against top Republican rivals, according to a national Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday.

In a hypothetical matchup against the current GOP front-runner, business mogul Donald Trump, Sanders takes 49 percent of the vote to Trump's 41 percent. Against Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Sanders leads 44 percent to 43 percent. He also beats Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) by 10 percentage points and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson by 6 points.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/02/15 02:51 PM

Can you state a time in political history where we are NOW DOWN TO 14 GOP candidates? Seeing that the National election is 11 months out, polls are just that, a small sample of voters in predetermined areas. Lets see what a few primaries reveal before focusing on all this nonsense of Doctors and Circus Barkers running as viable candidates.


http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/stat...e-presidential/
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/03/15 04:21 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/can-trump-be-stopped-171010062.html

Two months before the Iowa caucuses, Donald Trump finds himself in a familiar position: on top in the race for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.

According to a Quinnipiac national survey released Wednesday, Trump leads Florida Sen. Marco Rubio by 10 points, with the billionaire real estate mogul receiving 27 percent support among GOP voters. Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson are tied for third at 16 percent, followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (5 percent), who is a distant fourth. No other candidate in the Republican field registered more than 3 percent support in the poll.

Trump’s double-digit lead combined with the inability of other GOP candidates like Bush to break through is causing panic among Republican operatives who expected the former “Celebrity Apprentice” star to stumble following his controversial comments about, well, virtually everyone.

“Many leading Republican officials, strategists and donors now say they fear that Mr. Trump’s nomination would lead to an electoral wipeout, a sweeping defeat that could undo some of the gains Republicans have made in recent congressional, state and local elections,” Jonathan Martin wrote in the New York Times. “But in a party that lacks a true leader or anything in the way of consensus — and with the combative Mr. Trump certain to scorch anyone who takes him on — a fierce dispute has arisen about what can be done to stop his candidacy and whether anyone should even try.”

“If he carries this message into the general election in Ohio, we’ll hand this election to Hillary Clinton,” Matt Borges, chairman of the state’s Republican Party, told the paper.

“It would be an utter, complete and total disaster,” added South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who is polling below 1 percent in the GOP race. “If you’re a xenophobic, race-baiting, religious bigot, you’re going to have a hard time being president of the United States, and you’re going to do irreparable damage to the party.”
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/03/15 06:28 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
“It would be an utter, complete and total disaster,” added South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who is polling below 1 percent in the GOP race. “If you’re a xenophobic, race-baiting, religious bigot, you’re going to have a hard time being president of the United States, and you’re going to do irreparable damage to the party.”

Wow, coming from Graham, that's truly high praise! wink
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/03/15 01:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
“It would be an utter, complete and total disaster,” added South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who is polling below 1 percent in the GOP race. “If you’re a xenophobic, race-baiting, religious bigot, you’re going to have a hard time being president of the United States, and you’re going to do irreparable damage to the party.”

Wow, coming from Graham, that's truly high praise! wink
Several month ago Sen Graham called Trump a jackass. grin
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/03/15 02:05 PM

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-is-a-jackass/article/2568645

By Kelly Cohen (@politicohen_) • 7/21/15 7:51 AM

According to South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, businessman Donald Trump is a "jackass."

The comments come after Trump — who like Graham is running for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination — said over the weekend that Arizona Sen. John McCain is "not a war hero" because he was captured.

Graham and McCain are known to be close friends.

"What he said about John, I think, was offensive. He's becoming a jackass at a time when we need to have a serious debate about the future of the party and the country," Graham told CNN's Kate Bolduan Monday night. "This is a line he's crossed, and this is the beginning of the end of Donald Trump ... I am really pissed."
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/03/15 02:16 PM

Have you consider the one great factor that many Conservatives are so angry at their party's failure to show more race baiting,discriminate, divide and hate that Trump, Graham & Cruz are exactly what they've praying for. Political Correctness is a bad word for Conservatives. Bottom line, who is the bigger racist Trump or his "Buddy"

What happen? The Moderators told you to tone it down in regard to Native American issues?
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/03/15 10:19 PM

Even the Puffrington Post has Trump at 35.4% http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-gop-primary
270 days until elections. smile
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 01:19 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-kennedy/the-media-are-wringing-th_b_8707942.html

More from Huffington:

Which brings me back to those poll numbers. On the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders is trailing Hillary Clinton by the considerable margin of 60 percent to 34 percent. In other words, Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, has consolidated the one-third of Democratic voters who will always support the most left-wing candidate. Unlike Trump, Sanders is a serious person with serious ideas. He also seems to have succeeded in pushing Clinton to the left of her comfort zone. But no one except true believers expects Sanders to be sworn in on January 20, 2017.

Trump, if you ignore the margin of error (and you shouldn't, but never mind), is actually doing less well among Republicans than Sanders is among Democrats. But on the Republican side, with a huge field of contenders, 32 percent is enough to lead the field. At some point, establishment support is going to coalesce around one or two candidates, and Trump's hold on a quarter to a third of the Republican electorate is going to look a lot less impressive. Marco Rubio would appear to be the most likely beneficiary of this process. But even Jeb Bush looks no more hapless than Mitt Romney did in late 2011.

Trump is not winning, and he's not going to win. Members of the political press may wring their hands over their inability to convince Trump's supporters that his lies, his outrageous statements, and even his flirtation with fascism should disqualify him from the presidency. But the overwhelming majority of the public wants nothing to do with Trump.

I don't think the media deserve the credit for Trump's low ceiling. But I certainly don't believe the press should be blamed for Trump's continuing support among a minority of one of our two major parties. To paraphrase what Joseph Kennedy once said about his son Bobby (as reported by Robert Caro), they love him because he hates like they hate. That's not going to change--but neither is it going to get him elected.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 05:27 AM

You Boys pining for some Southern strategy from the 60s? whistle

http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/126630
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 06:57 AM

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/18/trump_polls_partner/

I wonder if Dr. Ben Carson realize what has hit his rating numbers? First of all the "Conservative token boy" fails to realize that you do not disrespect and disparage your own race and expect to garner votes, secondly he must now understand that lies alone won't push his Conservative popularity but must add racism,misogyny, bigotry,xenophobia and last of all,hatred, now that's the ticket for a real number's game....may I introduce to you,Donald Trump.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 11:03 AM

http://prntly.com/blog/?p=3011
The Newsmax TV poll, which takes data from hundreds of thousands of Newsmax subsribers, places Donald Trump at an impressive 62% in the latest poll. Actually the chart shows 64%.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 11:09 AM

The important part of that poll is that it's from Newsmax subscribers... not really a random sample is it? wink
Posted by: Festus

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 11:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
The important part of that poll is that it's from Newsmax subscribers... not really a random sample is it? wink


A group that is even less intelligent than Trump.

BTW, Trump backed down on his demand for $5 million to appear in the CNN debate - AFTER CNN's CEO told him to suck wind.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 11:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
The important part of that poll is that it's from Newsmax subscribers... not really a random sample is it? wink


LOL, it's no wonder that he forgets that a racist fellow by the name of David Duke was popular as a Presidential candidate but only in controlled circles.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 01:54 PM

http://thehill.com/opinion/brent-budowsky/261893-brent-budowsky-a-coming-gop-bloodbath

The Republican front-runner in the presidential campaign, who does more to define the GOP brand than any politician in America, has made the following destructive contributions to Republican politics during his White House bid:

He insulted heroic POWs by saying he prefers troops who were never captured; demeaned Hispanics by equating immigrants with rapists and murderers; is playing bigot politics against Muslims by falsely stating that thousands of them in New Jersey cheered the death of Americans after the terror attacks in 2001; berated various women by calling them fat slobs and bimbos, among other things; approved the beating of a black supporter of Black Lives Matter at one of his campaign rallies; leveled vindictive and personal insults against his GOP opponents; claimed the president of the United States is a foreigner who falsified his birth certificate; and in one of the most sickening acts in presidential campaign history, offered a derisive impersonation to ridicule the disability of a New York Times reporter.

The Republican front-runner in the presidential campaign, who does more to define the GOP brand than any politician in America, has made the following destructive contributions to Republican politics during his White House bid:

He insulted heroic POWs by saying he prefers troops who were never captured; demeaned Hispanics by equating immigrants with rapists and murderers; is playing bigot politics against Muslims by falsely stating that thousands of them in New Jersey cheered the death of Americans after the terror attacks in 2001; berated various women by calling them fat slobs and bimbos, among other things; approved the beating of a black supporter of Black Lives Matter at one of his campaign rallies; leveled vindictive and personal insults against his GOP opponents; claimed the president of the United States is a foreigner who falsified his birth certificate; and in one of the most sickening acts in presidential campaign history, offered a derisive impersonation to ridicule the disability of a New York Times reporter.

George Washington would not be proud of Donald Trump. Abe Lincoln would not be proud of the party he dominates. Ronald Reagan must be shaking his head with sadness in heaven at what has become of the party he led and loved, whose leaders tremble in fear of a front-runner they privately believe could lead the party to a landslide disaster.

December has arrived. The primaries and caucuses are weeks away. GOP leaders and their smartest strategists are terrified because the campaign has entered a phase that promises to bring an intraparty bloodbath of epic proportions that could continue until the Republican national convention and potentially the general election if an angry Trump is not nominated and runs as a third-party candidate, which I now believe he probably will.

There is a distemper in the GOP that bears a strong resemblance to the battles in Europe that pit traditional conservatives against far-right extremist parties such as the National Front, parties that abandon classic conservative values and run campaigns based on race, religion, bigotry, anger and fear.

When we add to this distemper the almost total fixation of major media on the Trump campaign, far more electable and more presidential-caliber Republicans are marginalized and unable to get their message through to voters.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R), for instance, is relegated to marginal status in polls. While Trump has become ubiquitous to the point of absurdity on shows such as “Meet the Press” and on CNN, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) — who are far more qualified and electable than Trump — are treated as virtual nonpersons for purposes of informing voters about how they would lead the nation.

The candidates of the right-wing faction compete with Trump by moving even further to the right. While Pope Francis prays for Syrian refugees, Ben Carson compares them to rabid dogs. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) says most criminals are Democrats, a bigoted dog whistle attack that would make the National Front party proud.

The GOP bloodbath has begun and will worsen as the nomination battle intensifies and voting becomes imminent and ultimately arrives. Trump will continue to insult and berate his GOP opponents. They will be forced to respond in kind. The venom, vitriol and vindictiveness of Republican against Republican will escalate to a white-hot intensity.

The GOP is now embroiled in a civil war between an anti-establishment, far-right wing led by Trump, Carson and Cruz and a traditional center-right wing divided among multiple weak candidates and supported by fearful GOP leaders and mainstream donors.

Civil wars can be the bloodiest battles. The two competing wings of the GOP hold each other in great contempt that will become increasingly aggressive and ugly. We will soon see a Stop Trump movement that will probably decide the ultimate nominee, leading an angry Trump to run as a third-party candidate, which will create grave danger for a bitterly divided GOP.

Budowsky was an aide to former Sens. Lloyd Bentsen and Bill Alexander, then chief deputy majority whip of the House. He holds an LL.M. degree in international financial law from the London School of Economics. He can be read on The Hill’s Contributors blog and reached at brentbbi@webtv.net.

Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 02:43 PM


Dynamite article kyle. By hook or crook, Trump's merry chase will hit the skids.

How can GOP stop Trump? Just beat him in Iowa and N.H.

There is good reason for many Republicans to be deeply worried about Donald Trump as the GOP nominee:

*He could lose 45 states and elect potential Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in a landslide.
*He could lose the GOP majority in the U.S. Senate, and cost us dozens of House seats and governorships.
*He would badly hurt the GOP brand.

Read on: http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/pr...-in-iowa-and-nh
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 04:02 PM

Go Trump!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 04:10 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Go Trump!
Don't go! Stick around Trump. The longer you do the more chaos you will cause for the Republican Party.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/04/15 06:22 PM

Exactly,not to mention the fact that once he loses the popularity,he'll threaten the GOP with an Independent run which will split the vote and once again hand Hillary a landslide.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/05/15 02:53 AM

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/elections-2016/article48067815.html

One of Florida’s biggest conservative Republican moneymen — and a billionaire backer of Jeb Bush — is so disgusted by Donald Trump’s candidacy that if he has to, he’ll do the unthinkable:

“If I have a choice — and you can put it in bold — if I have a choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton, I’m choosing Hillary,” Miami healthcare magnate Mike Fernandez told the Miami Herald on Friday. “She’s the lesser of two evils.”

Outraged by Trump’s unimpeded ascent, Fernandez is taking on the GOP frontrunner himself. He purchased a full-page ad in the upcoming Sunday edition of the Herald calling Trump a “narcissistic BULLYionaire with a hunger to be adored.” He also likened him to some of history’s bloodiest demagogues.

“You have no idea how furious I am with my friends in the Republican Party who have embraced this guy,” Fernandez said.

Fernandez, who also plans to run the ads in Des Moines and Las Vegas newspapers on Dec. 14, said he didn’t notify the Bush campaign of his plans. Fernandez was the single highest donor to the political committee backing Bush, Right to Rise USA, as of the last financial disclosure report at the end of June. His contribution: more than $3 million.

Perhaps most striking in the ad is its comparison of Trump and several dead dictators.

“Look at Hitler in Germany, Mussolini in Italy and Peron in Argentina,” it says. “When people lose hope, they are susceptible to those who offer to think for them.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics...l#storylink=cpy
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/06/15 03:37 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...TWICE-1888.html
Bellwether county has called it already - it's Trump (and they've only been wrong TWICE since 1888)
• Vigo County, Indiana has accurately predicted every presidential election outcome since 1888 except for two misses, in 1908 and 1952
• D.C. newspaper Politico sent reporter from its magazine edition to canvass residents and leaders in the blue-collar, 108,000-pop. town
• Based on informal interviews, billionaire Donald Trump appears to have the 2016 election in hand
By J. Taylor Rushing, U.s. Political Reporter, For Dailymail.com
Published: 19:02 EST, 4 December 2015 | Updated: 19:22 EST, 4 December 2015

It spans only 403 square miles and boasts no skyscrapers to speak of, but one rural Indiana county appears to be supporting Republican billionaire Donald Trump for president - with potentially nationwide implications.

Vigo County, Indiana, located on the western edge of the state and home to 108,000 Hoosiers including 40,000 active voters, was spotlighted Friday in a cover story of the Washington-based political magazine Politico.

Why? Because the county has been an accurate bellwether of every U.S. presidential election since 1888, with only two exceptions.

And this year, the county with the nickname 'the crossroads of America' seems to be in a Donald Trump frame of mind.


The magazine's prediction is obviously informal and unscientific - not to mention far from certain, as it is still early in the campaign season and the county doesn't have a perfect record after all.

But in the past 128 years, no other U.S. county's eventual choice for president in a general election has been as accurate.

The only two exceptions were in 1908, when most county residents voted for William Jennings Bryan instead of William Howard Taft, and in 1952, when the majority supported Adlai Stevenson - then the governor of Illinois - over Dwight Eisenhower.

In the last presidential election, voters in the county choose President Obama for re-election over GOP nominee Mitt Romney by a total of 19,707 to 19,368.

'When I spent two days traveling around its gathering places and watering holes, I discovered that, while the county’s Democrats have, for their part, coalesced around Clinton, its Republicans mostly wanted to talk about just one candidate: Donald Trump,' wrote Politico reporter Adam Wren.

'And if Trump can make it here—in this hollowed-out county of swing voters, union halls, three universities and a knot of CSX railroad lines, where voters seem to have a knack for predicting unpredictable elections—he can make it anywhere.'

At one event, Wren wrote, 'The people... weren’t the political neophytes and gadflies often chalked up as Trump voters. They were the kind of people who scuttled their Thursday night plans to come to a two-hour event organized by a low-key Republican county chairman.'

'And if the Republican primary were held on this evening, and limited to (attendees), Trump would win, and handily.'
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/06/15 05:12 PM

tired Old story. NPR ran the same thing in 2008. So Mr. Wren spent two days there at "gathering places" and "watering holes" talking to Republicans, and on that basis he's called it over -- Trump wins! Guess there's no need to waste any more time on campaigns. smirk
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/06/15 08:40 PM

If you are a conservative, check out your candidates report card on issues here Before you vote,Presidential Candidates Comparison
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/06/15 10:30 PM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
If you are a conservative, check out your candidates report card on issues here Before you vote,Presidential Candidates Comparison
Thank you Willowwisp. As I said at the beginning of the thread, my preference is Cruz. But whoever wins the primary will most likely get my vote.
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 02:28 AM

I've been sending Cruz donations every month since March. I was for him before he announced.

I love what Trump is doing to deflect attention off the "real" candidates. He makes me laugh, but we are in for some serious challenges and I want Ted to be in charge. Trump would be awesome as a cabinet member, not the POTUS we need right now..

Need to get the Muslims out of the government fast. I hope we last until election time.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 02:48 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
I hope we last until election time.

As do I. The resulting inevitable Democratic landslide due to minority voter disenfranchisement is sure to be a "spectacle" for the ages! whistle
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 02:53 AM

Entertaining? Grow up!
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 02:55 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Grow up!

Get a CLUE!

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Need to get the Muslims out of the government fast.

Your culture of abject racism is rotting from within, becoming more extinct with each passing election cycle.
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 03:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Grow up!

Get a CLUE!

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Need to get the Muslims out of the government fast.

Your culture of abject racism is rotting from within, becoming more extinct with each passing election cycle.
What race is an Islamist?
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 03:35 AM

Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 03:39 AM

72 DHS Employees on Terrorist Watch List Don't even get me started on the new DOJ Loretta Lynch....google her yourself.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 06:23 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
72 DHS Employees on Terrorist Watch List Don't even get me started on the new DOJ Loretta Lynch....google her yourself.

Precisely the same point can be made about David Duke, Pat Buchanan, US Senators Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), John Cornyn (R-Tx.), Dan Coats (R-In.) and Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) and yes, Donald Trump and too many others to mention here.

Your argument is ridiculous and hypocritical.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 06:28 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
"Which race is an Islamist?"


Based on your own obvious ideals, it's certainly NOT the ones with blond hair, blue eyes and freckles, who go by the name "Duffy"! whistle
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 06:54 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
I've been sending Cruz donations every month since March. I was for him before he announced.
OMG. You are supporting this guy born in Canada who is not eligible to be president?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 06:59 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Trump would be awesome as a cabinet member, not the POTUS we need right now..
Not ever. You ask Trump how he would solve a particular problem and he says he would hire good people. Doesn't he think every president tries to hire good people? His experience is if a person doesn't work out he fires them. I am afraid he would try that with Congress and the Supreme Court rather than working with them. Then we would have our own Hitler. I see other people are now saying that too.
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 08:08 AM

I can find more but you're not worth my time anymore.

Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 08:17 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
I can find more but you're not worth my time anymore.

The go-to response of a Weak Position.

Make indefensible statements that require not one shred of supported context.

How very predictable.
smirk
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 08:26 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp

A "covered" white woman... in what conceivable way is that at all relative, and to what point are you eluding (other than that you make uninformed, discriminatory judgements based upon assumptive, prejudices)?
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 08:50 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Need to get the Muslims out of the government fast. I hope we last until election time.
Yes! And those fire and brimstone evangelists along with them. And those Catholics (there's something definitely depraved about people who pretend they are drinking blood)! Don't forget the Jews either -- they run the world's finances and are responsible for the crisis of our economy. Look out, Willow, those people in white coats are coming to get us -- we need to get them before they get us! crazy
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 08:59 AM


I know that there's supposed to be something about the Irish too... hard to keep track of all the "rules". wink
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 10:30 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
72 DHS Employees on Terrorist Watch List Don't even get me started on the new DOJ Loretta Lynch....google her yourself.
And would you believe that some of the names on that list might also match yours? Or some might be the same as someone you know, which might be enough to get your name added to the list. Look out Willow, they're hiding in plain sight everywhere!
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 11:09 AM

Oh come on Lucy. Willow made some excellent posts and points which are FAR from being paranoid Schizophrenic. Muslims are not a race and their hate cult is not a religion and the current administration is overrun with them.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 11:48 AM

It's odd that your assessment is exactly that of a angry White Conservative Male, anyone that fails to look like you, speak your language nor take up your culture is an enemy ,history on your part is more xenophobia, denigration and hatred. One huge question, where do you stand on the issue of a dictator named Hitler who deem himself superior to every other race? Did you deem the history of Blacks being demonized and hung for no reason whatsoever other than being who they were as being justified? Hypocrisy on your part failed to mention the horrific period of the 40s when Japanese families in the Finger lakes were demonized due to the bombing of Pearl Harbor 74 years ago on this particular day.....Yes Sir, you perpetuate the fallacy that if you're not WASP, you are a 2nd class citizen who's residency in the "UNITED STATES" is less than desirable.....How are things up in Seneca County in regard to the Native American issue? whistle
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 12:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Oh come on Lucy. Willow made some excellent posts and points which are FAR from being paranoid Schizophrenic. Muslims are not a race and their hate cult is not a religion and the current administration is overrun with them.
Oh really? Of course Muslims (i.e., people who follow the religious beliefs of Islam) are not a "race." Islam is not a "hate cult," as you call it, but rather a monotheistic Abrahamic religion based on the teachings of Mohammed, as recorded in the Quran (or Koran). I have no idea where you get the notion that "the current administration is overrun with them," but it sounds like you're buying into that xenophobic delusion that anything you don't understand or agree with must somehow be suspect and therefore feared.

The fact that there is a tiny percentage of the world's Muslim population who are deranged sociopaths is no more indicative of the religion of Islam than the 20th century Catholic and Protestant terrorists in Ireland were indicative of Christianity or Irish citizens in general.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 02:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Oh come on Lucy. Willow made some excellent posts and points which are FAR from being paranoid Schizophrenic. Muslims are not a race and their hate cult is not a religion and the current administration is overrun with them.

Name ONE.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 05:31 PM

Here we go again. The fear monger who would be commander in chief has called for a total ban on all muslims entering the US.

How Trump would implement this idea is, as usual, not at all clear. Banning all people from predominately muslim countries? Banning students, tourists, government officials of muslim countries? And just how does one determine that someone arriving at an international airport is a muslim -- subject everyone to interviews (perhaps "enhanced interrogation") or lie detector tests? Last names? How about muslims from predominantly Christian countries, Buddhist or Hindu countries? I guess Trump's answer would be he'd do it through "good management."

Lindsey Graham is right -- Trump's latest declaration is an indication that he has become "unhinged."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 08:33 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/opinion/

From USA today:

Trump, fear-monger in chief: Our view

The Editorial Board 7:47 p.m. EST December 7, 2015

He apparently doesn’t care about turning himself into a threat to national security.

Every time you think Donald Trump can’t possibly say something more offensive than he already has, he tops himself. With his call on Monday for "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States," he set a shameful new rhetorical low and showed once again why he belongs nowhere near the White House.

Trump is masterful at channeling many Americans’ worst impulses and their greatest fears, chiefly by demonizing anyone who doesn’t look like him: Muslims, Latinos, blacks and even women. The word for this is bigotry, and while it has always been a dark undercurrent of American culture, it’s the exact opposite of what the nation has aspired to be and what the best leaders have always tried to inspire citizens to be.

Americans are understandably on edge after the massacre in San Bernardino, Calif., by two apparently self-radicalized Muslims, one a U.S. citizen. Real leaders are groping for a way to protect the nation without betraying U.S. freedoms or handing the Islamic State a huge propaganda victory by equating all 3 million American Muslims with mass murderers.

But Trump, who leads most polls of Republican presidential hopefuls, doesn’t do subtlety. And he apparently doesn’t care about turning himself into a threat to national security or trashing the values of a nation that was expressly founded to escape persecution based on religion.

Nor does he seem to care about the offensiveness or impracticality of trying to enforce a religious test at the border. How would he determine who’s Muslim? You can’t necessarily tell by looking at someone what his or her faith is. Would Trump have Customs officials interrogate people? Does he suppose a real terrorist would tell the truth? Would he let U.S. servicemembers who are Muslim back into the country after overseas tours of duty?

Has he thought this through for more than a minute? Apparently not, because as recently as September he told CNN: "I love the Muslims. I think they are great people."

As justification for his plan, Trump cited a supposed poll of the attitudes of American Muslims conducted by the Center for Security Policy, an organization with a long reputation for fomenting anti-Muslim sentiments. Another thing presidents don’t do — or shouldn’t — is heedlessly use untested data to justify crass discrimination, but Trump has done this before, when he retweeted anti-black crime data that were apparently concocted by an American neo-Nazi.

Rivals from both parties leaped to denounce Trump's outrageous comment, the latest in an ever-escalating flood of fear-mongering. The GOP can only hope that Dec. 7 turns into Trump's Pearl Harbor Day.

USA TODAY's editorial opinions are decided by its Editorial Board, separate from the news staff. Most editorials are coupled with an opposing view — a unique USA TODAY feature.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 08:51 PM

The number of people that support Donald Trump really scares me for the future of our nation. I am totally dumbfounded by it.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 11:33 PM

Quite the contrary ormermac, it is your own frustrations which bode that of anger. I have no enemies. It is your own xenophobia, denigration and hatred of those who do not look like or think like yourself which build up inside. History is a record of the past to be learned from to avoid making mistakes others have made.

I have ALWAYS promoted and worked toward equality under the law for all citizens regardless of race, sex, national origin, color, ethnicity, or religion. It is those who oppose that which I have legally challenged. ISIS is not desirable in the United States.

You may not enjoy watching Immigration, Poverty and Gumballs because it exposes the inevitable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/07/15 11:35 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...2&tid=ss_fb
Ted Cruz is the sleeping giant in the Republican race

Donald Trump continues to dominate the Republican presidential race — in both polling and media attention. But in a new Quinnipiac University national poll on the 2016 field, it's Ted Cruz who looks like the candidate you may want to bet on.

Here's why.

In the ballot test, Cruz has 16 percent support — and is in a statistical tie for second place with Ben Carson and Marco Rubio. Carson is very much headed in the wrong direction; he was at 23 percent in a Q poll conducted a month ago and is down seven points. Rubio is moving in the right direction (up three points from last month, to 17 percent), as is Cruz (up three points). And, Cruz's trend line is quite clear and quite good. He was at 5 percent in a Q poll in late July, 7 percent in a September poll and 16 now. Trend lines matter more than anything else in national primary polling, and no one this side of Rubio has a better trend line than Cruz.

Dig deeper into the findings and things look even better for the senator from Texas. Although Cruz is at 16 percent among all Republicans, he runs significantly stronger among three subgroups: "very" conservative voters, tea party supporters and white born-again/evangelical voters. Those subgroups are also the three most important and powerful when it comes to deciding the GOP nominee in 2016.

Among tea partyers, Cruz is tied with Donald Trump at 29 percent — well ahead of Carson at 17 percent and Rubio at 12. Among evangelicals, Cruz and Trump, again, are tied — this time at 24 percent — with Carson at 19 percent and Rubio at 13. Twenty nine percent of those who identify as "very" conservative choose Cruz, while Trump takes 25 percent, Carson 15 percent and Rubio 11 percent.

The Q poll also shows that Cruz has one very clear edge over Trump as the race moves forward: Almost no one said they wouldn't support him. Just six percent said they could never back Cruz — a number matched only by Rubio, at 5 percent. By contrast, more than one in four Republicans (26 percent) say they could never vote for Trump, the highest of any candidate in the contest. (Amazingly Jeb Bush, who gets just 5 percent of the vote in the primary ballot, is second on the "won't vote for" question, with 21 percent.)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/ted-cruz-donald-trump-iowa-poll/index.html
Monmouth poll: Cruz overtakes Trump in Iowa

Washington (CNN)Ted Cruz has overtaken Donald Trump in Iowa, according to a Monmouth University survey of Iowa Republicans released Monday.

If the caucuses were held today, Cruz would win with 24% support to Trump's 19% backing. Marco Rubio comes in a close third with 17% and Ben Carson, who was beating Trump 32%-18% in the last Monmouth University poll, has fallen to 13% support.

Behind the Cruz surge is support among evangelicals -- a decisive voting bloc in Iowa -- who selected Cruz over Trump 30%-18%.

Monmouth poll director Patrick Murray attributed Cruz's rise to Carson's fall in the early nominating state, but also noted that Iowa Rep. Steve King's endorsement likely had an impact. Nearly 20% of respondents said that King's endorsement made them more likely to support Cruz.

"This marks the first time Ted Cruz has held a lead in any of the crucial early states. As Ben Carson's stock has fallen, Cruz has been able to corral most of those voters," Murray said in a statement Monday. "Congressman King's endorsement may not be the primary reason for this swing, but it certainly put a stamp on the Cruz surge in Iowa."

The Monmouth poll was conducted from December 3-6 with 425 likely Republican caucusgoers and carries a +/- 4.8% margin of error.

At 3% in the polls, Jeb Bush in free-fall

The poll suggests Trump may be able to overtake Cruz, however, if he is able to draw new Republican supporters to the typically low-turnout caucuses.

The poll was conducted among registered voters, with the bulk of the interviews coming from those who are regular Republican primary voters. Monmouth's pollsters report that those who are not regular Republican primary voters were more likely to support Trump, while among those who had participated in previous primaries, Cruz held an edge.

Iowa allows participants in the caucuses to register at any time before the caucus, including on-site just before it begins.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 07:35 AM

I just heard Sen. Lindsey Graham say on TV that he would rather see the Republican Party lose the presidential election than win with Trump as the candidate. He said tell Trump to go to hell. Wow.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 07:42 AM

By Manu Raju and Burgess Everett

07/28/15 07:30 PM EDT

Updated 07/28/15 08:22 PM EDT

Then there’s Ted Cruz.

Since delivering his blistering floor speech Friday, attacking McConnell in personal terms for “lying” about his deal making, Cruz has grown more alienated within the GOP Conference than ever. The Texas senator has barely spoken a word to McConnell. He most certainly has not buried the hatchet with McConnell — and it’s not clear that he ever will.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/te...9#ixzz3tjhSsgVN
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 10:35 AM

Another question for Trump's blithering rant about muslims in America: how would he treat the thousands of muslims who are currently serving in the US military? Put them in segregated units? Not allow them back into the US when returning from combat zones?

Also, even Dick Cheney was critical of Trump's half-Fast proposal. When even Ol' Iron Shorts sez you've gone too far, you've lost it. Go Trump! Go back into your cave!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 10:39 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
By Manu Raju and Burgess Everett

07/28/15 07:30 PM EDT

Updated 07/28/15 08:22 PM EDT

Then there’s Ted Cruz.

Since delivering his blistering floor speech Friday, attacking McConnell in personal terms for “lying” about his deal making, Cruz has grown more alienated within the GOP Conference than ever. The Texas senator has barely spoken a word to McConnell. He most certainly has not buried the hatchet with McConnell — and it’s not clear that he ever will.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/te...9#ixzz3tjhSsgVN
Can you imagine Cruz as president and not speaking to the Senate majority leader from his own party? Wow
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 11:05 AM

http://theweek.com/articles/592719/why-even-people-who-agree-hate-ted-cruz

REUTERS/Jim Bourg
December 8, 2015

Ted Cruz is now ahead of Donald Trump in a GOP presidential poll of Iowa, where the Texas senator is campaigning hard. That leap-frogging is the likely reason that Trump insanely, desperately, and dangerously called Monday for a "complete shutdown" on Muslims entering the U.S.

But let's move beyond the proto-fascist in the GOP ranks and talk about Ted Cruz. Like Mike Huckabee before him, Cruz has a political style that resonates with Iowa's conservatives: emotional, low-church, slightly rebellious. Still, it is hard to predict Cruz's path forward, because it is difficult to think of a major party candidate more hated by his own party, Donald Trump notwithstanding.

Past enfant terrible candidates are rarely hated in this way. Ron Paul was treated as a funny curio. Pat Buchanan's revolt was partly mourned, as if he couldn't help it. Trump's has been greeted with consternation and some fear. But Cruz is greeted as a walking, talking outrage. He's treated as an offense in himself. And, it should be said, he seems to relish it. "I welcome their hatred," Franklin Roosevelt once said after being labeled a class traitor. It's easy to imagine Cruz feeling the same way about his political enemies.

Cruz has chutzpah. At a recent Republican debate, he got applause for castigating the debate moderators for trying to divide Republicans. Republican senators on that stage must have gagged; Cruz's whole career has been about dividing Republicans. He has spent the last several years trying to create a caucus in the House that is loyal to his school of high-risk, no-reward brinksmanship. He promises to defund ObamaCare when the Senate can do no such thing. Or argues that the Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide did not really apply to the whole nation. This strategy burnishes Cruz's reputation among the Republican base, but it creates headaches for senators and for the Republican House leadership.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 11:45 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
I just heard Sen. Lindsey Graham say on TV that he would rather see the Republican Party lose the presidential election than win with Trump as the candidate. He said tell Trump to go to hell. Wow.


I hear you. I construe Grahman, and few others as the first to incite this new trend of disparaging hatred due to the fact that their own rhetoric crossed the lines of decorum such as the disrespect to the POTUS & Hillary Clinton and any venue they can use to show that hatred. Now one Mr. Donald Trump "feeding" on the frenzy movement just notches it up a bit, look at his ratings. Now the whole entire party's future is in question because of one man's seizing the moment to not just follow the lead but to help usher in a new and improved form of showing xenophobia. America is becoming it's own worst enemy.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-joe-scarborough-cuts-commercial-130800741.html
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 01:27 PM

http://conservativetribune.com/wounded-t...aign=manualpost
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump continued to impress supporters earlier this year at a rally in Sioux City, Iowa, when he walked off stage to talk directly to a wounded veteran about his current health care situation.

First Sgt. Todd Landen was about to ask Trump a question and before he could even ask it, Trump said he had to get a closer look at Landen and his family. Trump walked off stage and up to Landen and complimented him on his beautiful family.

Landen then asked Trump how he would change care for veterans if he became president.

“It’s mass care. They’re just shuffling us out and crunching numbers, I think,” Landen said. “The real struggle is what insurance do I use? I’m 100 percent disabled, the VA is supposed to take care of my medical bills, but I have to go to a hospital 100 miles away.”

Trump said he would put pressure on the Department of Veterans Affairs “like you wouldn’t believe. As president, I can guarantee it. As Trump, I can probably say, I’m going to be able to pull it off anyway,” he said, according to CNN.

While Landen and his wife have never caucused in Iowa before, they said they planned on supporting Trump on Feb. 1.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/12/07/msnbc_lies_about_trump_speech_protest
MSNBC Lies About Trump Speech Protest

The story was NBC reporting that Donald Trump had been shouted and protested off the stage Friday night in Raleigh. This was Saturday when I was looking at this. I said, "I've seen this nowhere else. What the heck is this?" So I went scouring, I went looking. I couldn't find anywhere where it was reported that Trump had been shouted down, humiliated and embarrassed, and forced off the stage at a campaign event. And it turns out the reason I couldn't find it anywhere is 'cause it never happened. It didn't happen. There were protesters and so forth, but they are as usual at a Trump event, they are drowned out, they are overrun and dominated by Trump supporters.

It was a crowd of seven to 10,000. This guy is drawing general campaign sized crowds to his events. Not one of them has been shut down. That story that I found on the Apple search page didn't last long. A couple hours, I went back and it was gone. But it just goes to show you how literal drivel and bilge can end up in the Drive-By Media. I didn't ask Cookie for any of this, but CNN has a Saturday show. (interruption) What? (interruption) Oh, yeah, I'm gonna get to the Obama speech.

Anyway, so I was looking at this and I was trying to figure out, you know, how all this happened. And then I find out that Trump's campaign manager or one of his spokesmen or something, I think it was a woman was on Saturday's or Sundays, I don't know which, CNN's media introspective show. You know, all these networks have a half hour show on themselves where they report what they did the last week and what they got right and what they got wrong, but basically how they never get anything wrong because when it is wrong it's always in the service of the better or what have you.

Anyway, Trump's female spokesman, I think it was a female, made mincemeat of the CNN host Brian Stelter and mentioned this MSNBC story. She was making the point the double standard in the media is all over the place, and he couldn't get off the fact that Trump said thousands protested or cheered after 9/11. My point here is that the media just totally made it up, it was not true, it didn't even come close to being true, it ended up being disseminated somewhat. I don't think it was widely disseminated. It was a Saturday or Sunday when it happened, mostly Saturday, Saturday night, wasn't up long enough. But it's just another in an endless and a long line of illustrations of the media and journalistic malpractice.

Now, the Obama speech -- (interruption) Well, no, because I was shocked when I saw it, when I see the story "Trump Shouted Down, Forced to Leave Stage"? I mean, that would be big if that actually happened. That's why I thought it was such a big deal. It turns out it was just totally bogus. When Trump did leave the stage, it was to spend time signing autographs and chatting with people for an hour. It wasn't even close to be being true.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 01:56 PM

Rich, there is definitely no doubt as to Donald Trumps popularity, my question, your constant posting to reiterate this one fact is to serve what purpose? To let the public know that people have the tendency to to drawn to those like us. This being case, you've just revealed all we have known for a while, you are racist here on the forum and having debated the Native Americans now feel much reinvigorated that his hero is leading the polls. Now in regard a decent human being...the jury went home for the season being the the verdict was overwhelming "GUILTY" grin I like when people make the case for you with little to no resistance.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 01:58 PM

Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 04:35 PM

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/franc...trump-is-right/

France Raids Mosques… What They Found Inside Proves TRUMP IS RIGHT!

The deadly Islamic terrorist attack in Paris, France killed more than 130 people. Unlike America after an attack, France started immediately raiding Islamic mosques to see what they could find. After all, far too many people in the Muslim community have not been helpful with bringing forth information to authorities.

And while those French investigators have been called racists, a Langy-sur-Marne based mosque was raided this week anyway… And they found a large collection of 7.62 Kalashnikov ammo along with boxes of Islamic State (ISIS) propaganda videos.

Authorities also raided one of the mosque’s leader’s homes, and found a revolver hidden near jihadist documents.

Police also found recordings of religious chants “glorifying the martyrs of jihad linked to the terrorist organization Jabhat al-Nusra”, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda, the prefecture added.

The recordings were found among a wealth of teaching material for young people in an undeclared madrassa, or religious school. Police removed a hard disk and 10 computers.

“No request was made to open a private school,” the state prefecture said in its statement.

Mohammed Ramdane, president of the local Muslim association in Lagny, had criticised the closure of the prayer hall at the time, saying: “Nothing has been found in the mosque. Nothing is hidden, we don’t hide anything.

Via Telegraph

France isn’t messing around. They’ve arrested more than 230 muslims and collected more than 324 weapons. Many others are under travel bans and house arrest. They have shut down three mosques and have raided more than 2,300 homes.

As France’s Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve recently noted:

Cazeneuve said the number of weapons apprehended so far is staggering.

He said: “In 15 days we have seized one-third of the quantity of war-grade weapons that are normally seized in a year.”

And many French leaders have joined those voices in the EU calling for an end to importing Syrian Islamic refugees, as a proper screening process is impossible.

Compare that to the response we saw from President Barack Obama, who tried to blame the attacks on San Bernardino on “workplace violence” for days, while calling on his Attorney General to prosecute those who speak out against radical Islam.

It looks like Trump’s comments were right, and it’s time to start treating Muslim communities with suspicion!
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 04:44 PM

Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 04:49 PM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...cist-party.html
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 05:40 PM

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062...niel-greenfield
CARTER BANNED IRANIANS FROM COMING TO US DURING HOSTAGE CRISIS
Trump is a monster, a madman and a vile racist. He's just like Hitler. Or Jimmy Carter.

During the Iranian hostage crisis, Carter issued a number of orders to put pressure on Iran. Among these, Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.

Here's Jimmy "Hitler" Carter saying it back in 1980.

Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.

Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against "our values" after all. It may even be "who we are". Either that or Carter was a racist monster just like Trump.

Meanwhile here's how the Iranian students in the US were treated.

Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.

In November 1979, the Attorney General had given all Iranian students one month to report to the local immigration office. Around 7,000 were found in violation of their visas. Around 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the US.

Meanwhile any Iranians entering the US were forced to undergo secondary screening.

Interestingly enough, Carter did this by invoking the Nationality Act of 1952. A law originally opposed by Democrats for its attempt to restrict Communist immigration to the United States. [Note: obviously it is still opposed by Democrats (Communists)]

“If this oasis of the world should be overrun, perverted, contaminated, or destroyed, then the last flickering light of humanity will be extinguished,” Senator McCarran said of the law. He was a Democrat.

Now unlike Muslims, Iranians were not necessarily supportive of Islamic terrorism. Many were and are opponents of it. Khomeini didn't represent Iran as a country, but his Islamist allies. So Trump's proposal is far more legitimate than Carter's action. Carter targeted people by nationality. Trump's proposal does so by ideology.

Classifying Iranians as a group is closer to racism than classifying people by a racist supremacist ideology that calls for the mass murder and enslavement of non-Muslims, as ISIS is doing today.

One of the neater subsets of the 1952 Act barred the entry of, "(11) Aliens who are polygamists or who practice polygamy or advocate the practice of polygamy."

I wonder which creed this might apply to.

Maybe the professional conservatives [Note: RINOS] running around shrieking their heads off can calm down now long enough to have a rational conversation on the subject.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 05:45 PM

A racist supporting Trump is no different than the Communists endorsing the Clinton’s and the Obama’s, which they did every election.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 05:59 PM

So, Rich. you've posted a bunch of radical writings defending Donald Trump. Does that mean that YOU actively support his rantings about Mexicans, women, Muslims, etc.? It appears that a number of prominent Republicans have finally come out and stated that if Trump becomes the GOP nominee they will not support him because he does not represent the beliefs of the Republican party. Tom Ridge may have put it most succinctly when he recently said that someone like Trump who espouses "loud, obnoxious, and simple minded solutions to complex problems" does not have the qualifications that we need in a President.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 06:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
A racist supporting Trump is no different than the Communists endorsing the Clinton’s and the Obama’s, which they did every election.


Citation please, you should know by now that Liberal takes no personal opinion. Facts tend to make a case with sound minded individuals, yours just go along with the narrative that "If I state it, it must be true" Citation Please.
Lastly Rich, it has been your contention that Liberals are too weak, give away monies etc. So following that concept that all Liberal are the same, we can emphatically state that ALL Conservatives are racist, xenophobic, hateful, bigoted,misogynists, war mongers,blood thirsty....get the picture? I'm so glad that we can come to that consensus that any generalization of any group can be stated as fact.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 06:55 PM

I see that Rich have no problem speaking hypocrisy while talking of Obama's connections to the US Constitution. Lets hear his comments on these facts.


http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/19/trumps-plan-to-end-birthright-citizenship-isnt-that-crazy/


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-ban-muslims-totally-illegal/
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 07:03 PM

I started the thread just to agitate the Communists here. The only one I actively support is Cruz through donations. Most of the alleged rants Trump has stated have been attacked by the Democrats, the media, and the Republicans running against him. They have also been overblown and exaggerated and seldom take in their full context such as including that not all Mexicans are bad people and he has thousands of them working for him. I acknowledge that he makes exaggerations himself but there are truths to what he says and people have obviously resonated with that. If he wins the nomination in Tennessee by one vote, it won’t be by my vote. But if he wins, he’ll have it in the elections. Or at least my vote toward the ten votes Tennessee has.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 07:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
I started the thread just to agitate the Communists here. The only one I actively support is Cruz through donations. Most of the alleged rants Trump has stated have been attacked by the Democrats, the media, and the Republicans running against him. They have also been overblown and exaggerated and seldom take in their full context such as including that not all Mexicans are bad people and he has thousands of them working for him. I acknowledge that he makes exaggerations himself but there are truths to what he says and people have obviously resonated with that. If he wins the nomination in Tennessee by one vote, it won’t be by my vote. But if he wins, he’ll have it in the elections. Or at least my vote toward the ten votes Tennessee has.



I don't know of any Communist here. No citations tonight? smile
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 07:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
A racist supporting Trump is no different than the Communists endorsing the Clinton’s and the Obama’s, which they did every election.


Citation please, you should know by now that Liberal takes no personal opinion. Facts tend to make a case with sound minded individuals, yours just go along with the narrative that "If I state it, it must be true" Citation Please.
Lastly Rich, it has been your contention that Liberals are too weak, give away need monies etc. So following that concept that all Liberal are the same, we can emphatically state that ALL Conservatives are racist, xenophobic, hateful, bigoted,misogynists, war mongers,blood thirsty....get the picture? I'm so glad that we can come to that consensus that any generalization of any group can be stated as fact.

I don’t care if you accept anything. Google it and prove me wrong.
I’ve never said all Liberals are the same and have campaigned for the elections of many Liberals who were better candidates than the Republican incumbents. I resigned my seat as Town Republican chairman to do just that. Politically local and federal and or state levels are different ball games. State and federal politicians are more inclined to work for the party chair than their constituents. No citation here either.
Feel free to generalize all you want. The only thing that counts is who gets elected.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 07:26 PM

ROTFLMBO, son Googling is for amateurs, if you care to read (books,newspapers etc)articles from unbiased reputable sources, you're usually pretty safe because those entities have a reputation to protect....just as we thought, no citation?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 07:35 PM

I resigned my seat as Town Republican chairman I've been toying with you son, one of your constituents for whatever reason decided to "out" you a while ago. Resignation is such a weak word. Please don't come here with a agenda to spread your hatred toward Native American Liberals. We do care who's elected, hopefully they will be someone not racist. grin
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 07:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
I resigned my seat as Town Republican chairman I've been toying with you son, one of your constituents for whatever reason decided to "out" you a while ago. Resignation is such a weak word. Please don't come here with a agenda to spread your hatred toward Native American Liberals. We do care who's elected, hopefully they will be someone not racist. grin




Extricating oneself from embarrassment oftentimes demand such moves. wink
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 08:00 PM

I agree that birthright citizenship should be eliminated.

I’m not convinced that all Muslims should be banned from entering the U.S.; but those without papers to be properly vetted should not be admitted. Almost half of the alleged refugees are not from Syria and Muslims are wreaking havoc on Europe. Something has to be done to slow down ISIS and if anything has been done thus far, it isn’t working. The pending issue at hand does not include nor address immigration.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 08:12 PM

Once again, it boils down to legality not opinion. You Conservatives seem to have a problem when issues are questionable based on Trump's history of disparaging Blacks,Jews,Islamic people, Mexicans...did I leave any race out?
Once again, I know you and your history based on the Seneca Falls debacle....unbiased toward ALL people seems to be a major problem there. Protecting Trump's dysfunctions won't come without some resistant Sir. What astounds me ,your hypocrisy seems to expect those privileges of saying anything you want.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 08:20 PM

CITATION:

http://redstatewatcher.com/poll.asp?id=402
Trump said 25 percent of Muslims in America believes violence against Americans is justified from Jihad.

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=1615
U.S. Code Says Obama Should Follow Donald Trump's Suggestion
Especially funny that the legal scholar President doesn't know the US Code.



https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/...ty-act-of-1952/
TRUMP VINDICATED AGAIN – ISLAMIC IMMIGRANTS VIOLATE IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY ACT OF 1952!
December 9, 2015 Dianne Marshall

America’s Usurper, Obama has been supporting his Muslim brothers and violating The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. On the USCIS web site. In Section 212 Chapter 2, it Prohibits entry into America Aliens belonging to an organization seeking the unlawful overthrow of the federal government of the United States by force, violence and other unconstitutional means.
Islamic immigration would be illegal under this law. Why? The Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam. To which are against our values and violate the Constitution as it requires them to kill the infidel, which happens to be citizens of he United States.
The Islamic faith also requires total submission to Islam and its form of government. The law states that Aliens affiliated with any “organization” that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited”.

So Obama and all who advocate Syrian Islamist refugees into the nation are violating the law, as well as allowing any Muslims into America that practice Sharia law.
Those that advocate that Islam is just a peaceful religion and have rights that fall under the 1st Amendment are not understanding the immigration laws on the books, nor are they understanding what Sharia law really is. It is a government body that goes against the constitution and our Republic and the laws of the United States of America.
Those that would rather turn a blind eye on the facts need to come to a real discussion and not false rhetoric to push an agenda. Let the real debate begin!
Please read the PDF copy of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-66/pdf/STATUTE-66-Pg163.pdf
The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (Pub.L. 82–414, 66 Stat. 163, enacted June 27, 1952), also known as the McCarran–Walter Act, restricted immigration into the U.S. and is codified under Title 8 of the United States Code (8 U.S.C. ch. 12). The Act governs primarily immigration to and citizenship in the United States. It has been in effect since December 24, 1952. Before this Act, a variety of statutes governed immigration law but were not organized within one body of text.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 08:25 PM

ROTFLMBO, there are citations stating that we have Martians among us....lets get real here ROTFLMBO, you don't know proven facts from biased opinions. Hint Hint! FACT: Obama beat McCain, Obama beat Romney. Polls and opinions, both men had Obama beat. Understand now? laugh
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 08:32 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...3288_story.html


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution






Any ideals as to who harvested our crops over the years in California, New York and Michigan? Hint, it wasn't Americans.


Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 09:35 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/201...ion-moratorium/
Republicans Concede Donald Trump ‘Has a Point’ on Muslim Migration Moratorium

While many in the GOP are fiercely condemning Donald Trump for his proposal to temporarily ban all Muslim from entering the U.S., there’s a whole lot of other Republicans who are saying, hey, he has a point.

From established party figures such as Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 9and Rick Santorum to the more hardcore right-wing personalities such as Ann Coulter, numerous Republicans are either stopping short of condemning Trump’s audacious proposal or are outright applauding the billionaire businessman as finally offering a commonsense solution to terrorism threats.

They are offering a glimpse into why Trump has continued to zoom ahead in the polls, despite a series of jaw-dropping comments that the many in the media, and now the White House, have presented as not only offensive but disqualifying for the leader of the free world.

Santorum, who is at the bottom of the polls in the GOP race, aligned himself with the man at the top in a radio interview on Sirius XM’s “Breitbart News Daily” Tuesday, while stopping short of endorsing his proposal. The former Pennsylvania senator said that he hasn’t proposed banning all Muslims, “but “but a lot of them.”

“I’ve proposed actual concrete things and immigration law that would have – not the effect of banning all Muslims, but a lot of them because we need to get rid of the visa lottery system, which is the way in which a lot of radicals have come into this country,” Santorum said.

“I think the way Trump has proposed it, it may have some constitutional infirmity. We can do it in a more practical way than in the way Donald Trump is suggesting,” he continued.

Cruz caused even more waves by repeatedly saying that Trump’s proposal is “not my policy” but refusing to outright condemn the billionaire businessman whose voters could conceivably move over to Cruz in significant numbers if Trump implodes.

“I do not agree with his proposal. I do not think it is the right solution,” Cruz said Tuesday as he unveiled his own plan to protect against Islamic terrorism. Twice Cruz said he did not agree with Trump, before praising him.

“I like Donald Trump,” Cruz said. “I commend Donald Trump for standing up and focusing America’s attention on the need to secure our borders.”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 09:38 PM

grin laugh confused

Like reiterating your screed somehow makes for proving a point, yes you did. grin



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35037701


http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/12/trump-muslims-global-reaction/419343/
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/08/15 09:48 PM

OK, so you think that there should be a "moratorium" on Muslims entering the country. Could you enlighten everyone, including Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, just how that might be accomplished since there is nothing on any passport that indicates religion? Are we going to implement a religious test for entry to the US? Would this be done at the airport in foreign countries before departure to the US or are we going to just detain people at the US airport if they have no return ticket? Coming up with half-fast ideas that have not been thought through for more than a minute doesn't seem too presidential for either Trump or Cruz.
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/09/15 03:43 AM

My hat's off to you Rich Tallcot. You can't fix stupid, but I applaud you for trying. The idiocy is why I seldom frequent this forum, but like you, at least we try once in awhile.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/09/15 06:54 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
You can't fix stupid,
and you support Trump and Cruz? I guess you can't.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/09/15 08:00 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
My hat's off to you Rich Tallcot. You can't fix stupid, but I applaud you for trying. The idiocy is why I seldom frequent this forum, but like you, at least we try once in awhile.

Let's see IF I'm able to understand correctly... You cast aspersions respecting the reasoning of others, then refuse to provide (in detail) a logical foundation, while at the same time assuming that OTHERS won't notice the inherent irony. Is that about right? crazy

May I suggest the following reading material:

Nice Kitty


Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/09/15 08:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
I agree that birthright citizenship should be eliminated.

I’m not convinced that all Muslims should be banned from entering the U.S.; but those without papers to be properly vetted should not be admitted. Almost half of the alleged refugees are not from Syria and Muslims are wreaking havoc on Europe. Something has to be done to slow down ISIS and if anything has been done thus far, it isn’t working. The pending issue at hand does not include nor address immigration.

Not convinced, merely hopefully inclined? confused
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/09/15 08:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
A racist supporting Trump is no different than the Communists endorsing the Clinton’s and the Obama’s, which they did every election.
Citation please, you should know by now that Liberal takes no personal opinion. Facts tend to make a case with sound minded individuals, yours just go along with the narrative that "If I state it, it must be true" Citation Please.
Lastly Rich, it has been your contention that Liberals are too weak, give away need monies etc. So following that concept that all Liberal are the same, we can emphatically state that ALL Conservatives are racist, xenophobic, hateful, bigoted,misogynists, war mongers,blood thirsty....get the picture? I'm so glad that we can come to that consensus that any generalization of any group can be stated as fact.
I don’t care if you accept anything. Google it and prove me wrong.

Still having trouble wrapping your head around this whole "burden of proof" thing, are you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/09/15 08:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
A racist supporting Trump is no different than the Communists endorsing the Clinton’s and the Obama’s, which they did every election.
Citation please, you should know by now that Liberal takes no personal opinion. Facts tend to make a case with sound minded individuals, yours just go along with the narrative that "If I state it, it must be true" Citation Please.
Lastly Rich, it has been your contention that Liberals are too weak, give away need monies etc. So following that concept that all Liberal are the same, we can emphatically state that ALL Conservatives are racist, xenophobic, hateful, bigoted,misogynists, war mongers,blood thirsty....get the picture? I'm so glad that we can come to that consensus that any generalization of any group can be stated as fact.
Feel free to generalize all you want. The only thing that counts is who gets elected.

As he's rightfully correct in doing, since those same ugly positions are generally (if not exclusively) held by most every conservative politician, constituent, pundit and VAST majority of Republicans alike.

There couldn't possibly BE a more appropriate response. crazy

To state outright that the "only thing that matters" is the election results, is to completely ignore the obscene nature of the beliefs accurately described. It's certainly, pure artifice.

Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/09/15 08:39 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
My hat's off to you Rich Tallcot. You can't fix stupid, but I applaud you for trying. The idiocy is why I seldom frequent this forum, but like you, at least we try once in awhile.

Perhaps if you were to actually engage in an honest group debate by providing supporting evidence, rather than jumping straight to personal insults when called to defend your statements and accusations, you may feel a little differently.

You might just surprise yourself.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/09/15 01:49 PM

If Trump is elected president, the USA would not have a friend left in the world.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/politics/uk-donald-trump-ban-petition/

London (CNN) A petition calling for Donald Trump to be banned from entering the UK has attracted more than a quarter of a million signatures -- more than enough for a committee to consider sending the motion for parliamentary debate.

The petition to block the front-running Republican presidential candidate from entering the country was created on the British government's official petitions website in response to Trump's call Monday to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. due to the threat of terrorism.

"The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK," read the petition, which was created by Suzanne Kelly, a woman from Aberdeen, Scotland, who has previously campaigned against Trump's political and business activities.

"If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the 'unacceptable behavior' criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful," the petition stated.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/09/15 08:08 PM

Anyone who supports him is being taken as a fool.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...8198_story.html

He referred to Mexicans as “rapists,” questioned Sen. John McCain’s status as a war hero, ridiculed the physical appearance of his opponents, falsely claimed that “thousands” in New Jersey cheered as the World Trade Center fell and, this week, called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States.

Despite predictions that such searing, divisive rhetoric and the resulting outcry would cripple his campaign, Donald Trump’s insults and controversial proposals have propelled him to the forefront of the 2016 presidential race — and kept him there.

And while it may seem like a lurching, chaotic campaign, Trump is, for the most part, a disciplined and methodical candidate, according to a Washington Post review of the businessman’s speeches, interviews and thousands of tweets and retweets over the past six months.

Trump delivers scores of promises, diatribes and insults at breakneck speed. He attacks a regular cast of villains including undocumented immigrants, Muslims, Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, his GOP rivals and the media. He keeps the narrative arc of each controversy alive with an endless stream of statements, an unwillingness to back down even when he has misstated the facts — and a string of attacks against those who criticize him.

All the while, his supporters see a truth-talking problem solver unlike the traditional politicians who have let them down. Spending remarkably little, he dominates yet another news cycle, and his Republican rivals languish in his shadow.

On any given day, the reality TV star’s attacks are delivered from a variety of stages, whether it is broadcast interviews or his stream-of-Trumpness monologues at rallies. During one hour-long speech in November in Alabama, Trump logged nearly four dozen barbs, a rant in which he described President Obama as representing “us very poorly — very, very poorly — horribly, actually;” Secretary of State John F. Kerry as a “loser;” and the American dream as “dead.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/10/15 05:39 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/it-s-either-trump-or-1317957587198006.html

There’s no hard and fast rule in politics to help you know when you’ve crossed over from mere extremism into some dark borderland of reckless ignorance. Generally speaking, though, when you find yourself defending the wisdom of the Japanese-American internment, you probably left that boundary behind a few miles back.

That’s the intellectual wasteland Donald Trump stumbled into this week when he issued what should hereafter be known as the Marvin Gaye Manifesto — his proposal that all Muslims be banned from entering the country until we can figure out “what’s going on.” This immediately drew unusual condemnation from the new Republican speaker of the House, the Senate majority leader and the party’s national chairman, along with the local Republican chairs in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

The interesting question is what happens from here, because the way I see it, the cold war between Trump and the Republican governing establishment, which everyone hoped throughout the summer and fall might just resolve itself, has now become a zero-sum contest. And Republicans find themselves faced with an existential threat that has no parallel for either party in my lifetime.

Either Trump or the Republican Party as we’ve known it can come out of this election without having been politically destroyed — but almost certainly not both.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/10/15 07:16 AM

Lets stand back and take a breather here, we're bashing Trump as a racist,misogynist,bigot and great divider(As he's rightfully labeled) well sad as it is ,Donald have found the niches Democrats spoke of over the last 8 years ago, ultra Conservatism wants a voice which they felt they didn't receive in the GOP party. Donald is handing them that satisfaction then some. Now in regard to your posts, you're absolutely correct, the Republicans saw no need to initially "stop" the Don because he spoke much of their language but now that the rhetoric has gone rouge,their own true nature has been exposed to the world and this raw exposure is as the Liberals stated, bad for the party. I'm reminded of old Frankenstein movies, because of unconstrained power, the creator went beyond the pale of normalcy and failed to factor in the consequences and now must destroy the very thing they created.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/10/15 08:07 AM

The Republicans cried a few month ago that the media unfairly targets them, please someone explain why would the Conservative media do the same thing to their own constituents by asking "gotcha moments" questions? These questions are posed by Conservatives, not liberals due to the fact that Republicans refuse to talk to liberal correspondents.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-ele...-policy-n477411
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/10/15 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
OK, so you think that there should be a "moratorium" on Muslims entering the country. Could you enlighten everyone, including Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, just how that might be accomplished since there is nothing on any passport that indicates religion? Are we going to implement a religious test for entry to the US? Would this be done at the airport in foreign countries before departure to the US or are we going to just detain people at the US airport if they have no return ticket? Coming up with half-fast ideas that have not been thought through for more than a minute doesn't seem too presidential for either Trump or Cruz.

Latest GOP polls show Trump holding the lead in all five polls with an average of 34.4% and Cruz jumped 14.8 from his low to 15.6%, but still less than half of Trump’s average.

The Kelly Files tonight, and she’s no fan of Trump, said that following Trump’s statements about Muslims that his ratings have actually gone up. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-10/trump-polling-lead-surges-after-anti-muslim-comments Trump Polling Lead Surges After Anti-Muslim Comments.

Glen Beck, who hates Trump, said Trump is on the right track and Beck’s vetting process being used in Scandinavia was used in another country and they discovered 300 ISIS supporters.

And Lucinda, I did not say I supported a moratorium on Muslims and the Donald himself said the ban would be temporary. I said I’m not convinced that all Muslims should be banned from entering the U.S.; but those without papers to be properly vetted should not be admitted. Almost half of the alleged refugees are not from Syria and Muslims are wreaking havoc on Europe. Something has to be done to slow down ISIS and if anything has been done thus far, it isn’t working.

Of course with the borders wide open there would be no way to enforce a ban anyway.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 05:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
A racist supporting Trump is no different than the Communists endorsing the Clinton’s and the Obama’s, which they did every election.


Citation please, you should know by now that Liberal takes no personal opinion. Facts tend to make a case with sound minded individuals, yours just go along with the narrative that "If I state it, it must be true" Citation Please.
Lastly Rich, it has been your contention that Liberals are too weak, give away need monies etc. So following that concept that all Liberal are the same, we can emphatically state that ALL Conservatives are racist, xenophobic, hateful, bigoted,misogynists, war mongers,blood thirsty....get the picture? I'm so glad that we can come to that consensus that any generalization of any group can be stated as fact.

I don’t care if you accept anything. Google it and prove me wrong.
I’ve never said all Liberals are the same and have campaigned for the elections of many Liberals who were better candidates than the Republican incumbents. I resigned my seat as Town Republican chairman to do just that. Politically local and federal and or state levels are different ball games. State and federal politicians are more inclined to work for the party chair than their constituents. No citation here either.
Feel free to generalize all you want. The only thing that counts is who gets elected.


Just like Mr. trump,it's clear that your agenda is only to incite and instigate, nothing else.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/opinions/trump-isis/
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 11:22 AM

It seems to be working. I said I just stated this thread to agitate you Communists.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 11:23 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/us/pol...cebook&_r=0

To Hilary Clinton, Donald Trump is no longer a Laughing Matter.

Until Monday, when Donald J. Trump proposed a ban on Muslims entering the United States, Hillary Clinton could hardly keep herself from laughing at the mention of his name. “I’m sorry, I can’t help it,” she told ABC News on Sunday, letting out a giggle that made advisers squirm.

She is no longer laughing.

At a town hall here on Wednesday, Mrs. Clinton delivered her most damning, direct criticism of Mr. Trump, saying that he traffics “in prejudice and paranoia,” and that his Muslim proposal was “not only shameful, it’s dangerous.”

But Mrs. Clinton also strove to recognize something stirring in the electorate that Mr. Trump had clearly tapped into. “It’s O.K., it’s O.K. to be afraid,” she said. “When bad things happen, it does cause anxiety and fear,” she added. “But then you pull yourself together and, especially, if you want to be a leader of our country, and you say: OK, what are we going to do about it? How are we going to be prepared?

The remarks bore little resemblance to Mrs. Clinton’s previous dismissals of Mr. Trump. She had portrayed him as a reality television sideshow who voiced more extreme beliefs that, she contended, his more serious Republican rivals shared.

But since Mr. Trump’s response to the Dec. 2 terrorist attack in San Bernardino, Calif., Mrs. Clinton and her campaign, confounded by his continued strength in the polls, have had to rethink how they handle Mr. Trump and what his candidacy, and the anger in the electorate that has fueled it, means for her chances in 2016.

Some of her own voters are giving her reason to.

Bennie Stickley, a 75-year-old in Gilbertville, Iowa, who retired from a John Deere factory, said he was supporting Mrs. Clinton but agrees with Mr. Trump’s proposal to bar Muslims. “I’m for him on that,” he said. “We shouldn’t be letting those people into the country,” he added.

“She’s as amazed as everyone else is” by his staying power, said Edward G. Rendell, a former governor of Pennsylvania, who recently spoke to Mrs. Clinton about Mr. Trump.

That befuddlement played out in the 24 hours after Mr. Trump released his proposal on Monday. The Clinton campaign, caught off guard, seemed to grapple publicly with how to respond.

Mrs. Clinton alternated between tugging at the heartstrings with messages of inclusiveness and capitalizing on Mr. Trump’s comments in ways that some Democrats considered unseemly. After she quickly rejected Mr. Trump’s remarks on Twitter, a fund-raising email went out that night from a top aide, Huma Abedin, under the subject line “I’m a proud Muslim.”

The campaign released a “Love Trumps Hate” bumper sticker, and on Tuesday, Mrs. Clinton published an open letter on Medium titled “No, Donald Trump, We’re Not Barring Muslims From Entering the country that pleaded for tolerance.

But privately, campaign aides said a day later that the dust had not settled, and they were searching for how best to hit back at Mr. Trump without dismissing the heightened feelings of insecurity that he was playing upon.

By Wednesday in Waterloo, Mrs. Clinton struck a more somber tone. She had intended to discuss her corporate tax proposals at the town hall, but ended up devoting much of her time to Mr. Trump.

“I’m afraid,” a voter who rushed to the rope line after the meeting told Mrs. Clinton. “People are being so vitriolic.”

Mrs. Clinton nodded sympathetically. “That’s why I called Trump out at the beginning of what I said today,” she said. “I think it’s shameful for our country to have people running around to be president of the United States, saying these things, demonizing people.”

Moments later, when a college student asked Mrs. Clinton to make a Snapchat video saying, “You’re fired, Donald Trump,” she demurred.

“I’m not going to say that,” she said, as if to do so would cross a line. Instead, she agreed to make a lighthearted, quick video for the young man that did not mention Mr. Trump.

On Thursday night, when asked about Mr. Trump in an appearance on NBC’s “Late Night with Seth Meyers,” Mrs. Clinton said, “You know, I have to say, Seth. I no longer think he’s funny ," adding that Mr. Trump’s latest comments had “gone way over the line.”

Mrs. Clinton is not the only Democrat struggling to settle on a strategy for responding to Mr. Trump’s campaign, the unpredictable Republican race and what Mr. Trump’s appeal says about the mood of the electorate.

Even when the White House press secretary, Josh Earnest, sternly said Mr. Trump’s proposed ban on Muslims “disqualifies him from serving as president,” Mr. Earnest also called Mr. Trump a “carnival barker” and poked fun at his “fake hair.”

“The elite political community has been struggling to figure out how to deal with him because they don’t fundamentally understand the phenomenon,” said David Axelrod, former senior adviser to President Obama. “He’s speaking to something that they’re just getting their arms around.

If Mrs. Clinton and other Democrats are certain that Mr. Trump’s candidacy is harming the Republican Party, they appear less sure how to respond to it.

Mr. Rendell condemned Mr. Trump’s more incendiary ideas, but added that there were parts of his message, like the need to hem in China and put a stop to currency manipulation that hurts America in trade deals, that could appeal to white working-class Democrats who are concerned about the shrinking middle class.

“A lot of what he says resonates with what you and I would call ‘reasonable, thinking people,’” Mr. Rendell said. “That’s the part that I think is important for Hillary or any Republican running, or Bernie Sanders, or anybody. That’s the part that I think is important for them to realize.”

Many of Mrs. Clinton’s advisers say they still doubt Mr. Trump will be the Republican nominee, but they have contemplated what it would mean for Mrs. Clinton, a policy wonk known for her 12-point plans to approach problems, to run against the visceral Mr. Trump, said several of those advisers who insisted on anonymity to discuss private conversations.

In Washington on Thursday, Mrs. Clinton’s pollster, Joel Benenson, told a campaign briefing that he believed Mr. Trump would linger and be a "dominant" force, but that he could not predict whom the nominee would be, according to an attendee.

Former President Bill Clinton has been particularly intrigued by Mr. Trump’s appeal, referring to his campaign as ideal for what he dismissively calls an “Instagram election” of quick sound bites and easy responses (“Build a wall!” “Close the borders!”) to extremely complex problems, said one of these advisers with direct knowledge of Mr. Clinton’s conversations.

Mrs. Clinton’s campaign has tried to portray Mr. Trump as the id of the Republican Party, saying what his more measured rivals think. This week, the campaign released a “Who said it: Donald Trump or not Donald Trump?” online quiz. “When it comes to hateful rhetoric, it’s difficult to tell the difference between the Republicans running for president,” the quiz read.

That connection may not be durable with voters after Mr. Trump’s proposed ban on Muslims, which some of his Republican rivals forcefully rejected.

At the same time, the threat of a homegrown terrorist attack has elevated anxieties and made Mr. Trump’s proposal appealing even to some voters who support Mrs. Clinton.

In Waterloo, Mike Russell, 60, called Mr. Trump “an idiot.” But when he was asked if he thought Mrs. Clinton had been aggressive enough in outlining her plan to defeat ISIS, Mr. Russell paused.

“I don’t know,” he said. “That last deal in California, that changes the game.”
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 01:39 PM

Il Trumpo is certainly no laughing matter. With his call for a religious test to enter the US, Trump has gained the admiration of neo-Nazi groups (see Heil Trump), managed to aggravate some our closest allies to the point that an online petition in Great Britain is calling for a ban on Trump visiting the United Kingdom, and a planned Trump visit to Israel has been cancelled. Scotland's First Minister stripped Trump of his honorary position as a global business ambassador for Scotland, saying that Trump "is no longer fit” to represent the country, and a university in Scotland revoked an honorary degree awarded to Trump five years ago after 60,000 people signed a petition calling for the degree to be taken from him. Here at home, the mayor of St. Petersburg FL, has "banned" Trump from visiting the city. Boy, this is just the kind of guy we need to resolve conflict!

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/scotland/article4637275.ece

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/americas/article4638267.ece
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
I said I just stated this thread to agitate you Communists.


Jeeeeeeeeez. Ever the protégé. Can't reign in your yen to roll in Wisner's malodorous memory, eh Richie? crazy
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 02:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
It seems to be working. I said I just stated this thread to agitate you Communists.



Works just like a copper magnet whistle
Is this the reason you resign....I mean fired?
The only one acting like a Communist are the Republicans, hear the latest?

olitics/2015/12/11/carson-threatens-leave-republican-party-amid-talk-brokered-convention/77150340/
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 03:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Rich, there is definitely no doubt as to Donald Trumps popularity, my question, your constant posting to reiterate this one fact is to serve what purpose? To let the public know that people have the tendency to to drawn to those like us. This being case, you've just revealed all we have known for a while, you are racist here on the forum and having debated the Native Americans now feel much reinvigorated that his hero is leading the polls. Now in regard a decent human being...the jury went home for the season being the the verdict was overwhelming "GUILTY" grin I like when people make the case for you with little to no resistance.
I agree totally with Rich about Native Americans. It has absolutely nothing to do with race. It is strictly a question of economics. They refuse to pay their fair share of taxes the same as all other American citizens and they use their race as a feeble excuse not to pay them.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 04:03 PM

Some feeble minds can correlate any given subject,just as long as the topic has the name Native American. My post to you made that accusation, now you rush to prove me right....go figure.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 04:13 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Rich, there is definitely no doubt as to Donald Trumps popularity, my question, your constant posting to reiterate this one fact is to serve what purpose? To let the public know that people have the tendency to to drawn to those like us. This being case, you've just revealed all we have known for a while, you are racist here on the forum and having debated the Native Americans now feel much reinvigorated that his hero is leading the polls. Now in regard a decent human being...the jury went home for the season being the the verdict was overwhelming "GUILTY" grin I like when people make the case for you with little to no resistance.
I agree totally with Rich about Native Americans. It has absolutely nothing to do with race. It is strictly a question of economics. They refuse to pay their fair share of taxes the same as all other American citizens and they use their race as a feeble excuse not to pay them.

No Kyle, they're using a history of several hundred years of racial atrocities committed upon them by non-native invading forces in order to not pay taxes.

Were it not for that very specific and undeniable history, we would categorically NOT even be discussing this subject.

Now, for the hundredth time... please quit hijacking threads in order to vent your racist spleen. There are already several threads dedicated to that subject.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
No Kyle, they're using a history of several hundred years of racial atrocities committed upon them by non-native invading forces in order to not pay taxes.
There has to be a better to compensate them rather than destroying our free enterprise system.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Now, for the hundredth time... please quit hijacking threads in order to vent your racist spleen. There are already several threads dedicated to that subject.
Formermac brought up the subject in this thread not me or Rich.
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
No Kyle, they're using a history of several hundred years of racial atrocities committed upon them by non-native invading forces in order to not pay taxes.
There has to be a better to compensate them rather than destroying our free enterprise system.

Can't resist lobbing the nearest derisory, half-baked accusation toward indigenous folks at any opportunity huh Mr. Redundancy.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 05:43 PM

Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal, the desert kingdom's richest man and a nephew of the late King Abdullah, demanded on Friday that Donald Trump abandon his White House bid.

In a tweet, the 60-year-old prince reacted to Trump's call to bar Muslims from entering the United States, an idea that has drawn revulsion throughout the Middle East and threatened the billionaire real estate mogul's business investments.

DonaldTrump You are a disgrace not only to the GOP but to all America. Withdraw from the U.S presidential race as you will never win,” Prince Alwaleed tweeted.

Alwaleed, like Trump a real estate investor with a specialty in hotels, owns shares of Twitter and Citigroup. He sold most of his News Corp. stock early this year but continues to hold 6.6 percent of 21st Century Fox. The prince is the 34th richest man in the world, with an estimated net worth of $24.8 billion, according to Forbes.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/saudi-prince-donald-trump-drop-out-216693#ixzz3u3gVKWAP
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/11/15 06:23 PM


Peachy! grin Gettin' sweetchious.


Anonymous Deliver Donald Trump Some Very, Very Bad News

Addicting Info
Kerry-Anne

December 11, 2015


Donald Trump might be winning over the right wing of the Republican base with his “ban Muslims” rant, but it’s also made him some powerful enemies. Now, Anonymous have declared war on the trust fund tycoon, who knows what what will dig out of the closet.

A person wearing a Guy Fawkes mask appears in a video warning Donald Trump that his actions will have serious consequences for the world — and that if he continues, Anonymous will ensure those serious consequences arrive at his door, too.

“Donald Trump, it has come to our attention that you want to ban all Muslims [from entering] the United States. This policy is going to have a huge impact,” they say. “This is what ISIS wants.”
“The more the United States appears to be targeting Muslims, not just radical Muslims, you can be sure that ISIS will be putting that on their social media campaign,” the person in the video says.
“Donald Trump, think twice before you speak anything. You have been warned,”

We can probably look forward to some real nightmares for the Trump campaign now. Leaked finance reports, emails, the websites getting hacked, and so on. Who knows what unwelcome exposure Trump will receive in coming weeks? If Trump isn’t unsettled, he’s an idiot. Anonymous are succeeding at disrupting ISIS — Trump’s tinpot campaign is going to be a cakewalk.

It’s not been the best week for Donald Trump. He thought his speech would serve as a rallying call to America, instead it just dragged all the closet racists out of the woodwork. Everyone from Republican moderates to anarchists were disgusted.

However, it’s not just at home that Trump has embarrassed himself. The international community consider Trump a pariah after his “ban all Muslims” speech.

It is difficult to overstate how catastrophic this speech was for Trump’s standing internationally. Foreign leaders recoiled and rejected the comments unanimously and completely. Condemnation came from America’s closest allies. British Prime Minister David Cameron said the comments were, “divisive, unhelpful and quite simply wrong.” His sentiments were shared by French President Francois Hollande.

Trump may have assumed that as the leader of a country maintaining an illegal and arbitrary occupation over its Muslim population would be a natural ally. But Trump is too toxic, even for Benjamin Netanyahu. The Israeli PM’s official Twitter account released an outright condemnation of Trump’s plans.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejects Donald Trump's recent remarks about Muslims.

— PM of Israel (@IsraeliPM) December 9, 2015

So, while Trump enjoys the limelight afforded him by his racist acolytes, and all the latent bigots enjoying their day in the sun — he should know that the wider America, beyond the confines of this lunatic fringe, will decide who leads come 2016.

Read/Watch on. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/12/11/...bad-news-video/
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 12:10 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal, the desert kingdom's richest man and a nephew of the late King Abdullah, demanded on Friday that Donald Trump abandon his White House bid.

In a tweet, the 60-year-old prince reacted to Trump's call to bar Muslims from entering the United States, an idea that has drawn revulsion throughout the Middle East and threatened the billionaire real estate mogul's business investments.

DonaldTrump You are a disgrace not only to the GOP but to all America. Withdraw from the U.S presidential race as you will never win,” Prince Alwaleed tweeted.

Alwaleed, like Trump a real estate investor with a specialty in hotels, owns shares of Twitter and Citigroup. He sold most of his News Corp. stock early this year but continues to hold 6.6 percent of 21st Century Fox. The prince is the 34th richest man in the world, with an estimated net worth of $24.8 billion, according to Forbes.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/saudi-prince-donald-trump-drop-out-216693#ixzz3u3gVKWAP
And not so strangely, the Syrian refugees are banned from entering Alwaeed's country due to national security concerns. Now that's a true progressive. Everyone else should give but him.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 12:12 PM

http://www.yesimright.com/they-said-donald-trump-cant-stay-at-the-top-forever-oh-yeah-watch-this/
They Said “Donald Trump Can’t Stay At The Top Forever”

And the good news just keeps on coming!

Trump now has the lead in yet another poll. The ABC News/Washington Post poll has Trump leading his contenders by a whopping 27% in both the “most likely to win the GOP nomination” and “most likely to win the general election” categories.
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 01:07 PM

http://www.yesimright.com/they-said-donald-trump-cant-stay-at-the-top-forever-oh-yeah-watch-this/
"Looks like our man Trump is loading up his train for a massive White House push! Go Trump!".


A load alright. Pffft.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 01:27 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/trumps-name-image-...--election.html
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 04:28 PM

So giddy to make your post you neglect to consider prior posts. "And not so strangely, the Syrian refugees are banned from entering Alwaeed's country due to national security concerns. Now that's a true progressive. Everyone else should give but him."
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 07:25 PM

Listening to Trump is enough to make one, giddy,smile,laugh because he's hilariously insane.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://www.yesimright.com/they-said-donald-trump-cant-stay-at-the-top-forever-oh-yeah-watch-this/
They Said “Donald Trump Can’t Stay At The Top Forever”

And the good news just keeps on coming!

Trump now has the lead in yet another poll. The ABC News/Washington Post poll has Trump leading his contenders by a whopping 27% in both the “most likely to win the GOP nomination” and “most likely to win the general election” categories.

So giddy to make your post... smirk

Cruz Soars to Front of the Pack in Iowa Poll; Trump Support Stays Flat:
Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa survey also brings no joy to Ben Carson or Jeb Bush.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articl...s-flat-ii3p88rp
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 07:49 PM


White Supremacists for Donald Trump:

Donald Trump is breaking the white supremacist internet - Stormfront forced to upgrade servers to deal with Trump traffic surge.
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/10/donald_t..._traffic_surge/

White Supremacists for Donald Trump - ‘The Positions Made Me a Convert.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...-a-convert.html

King: It doesn’t matter if he wins or not - Donald Trump has already awakened the white supremacist beast in America.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.2461160

Donald Trump is the New Face of White Supremacy.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/28/donald-trump-is-the-new-face-of-white-supremacy/

Donald Trump’s racist rhetoric emboldens white supremacist groups, neo-Nazis spouting hate on the Internet.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...ticle-1.2461471
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Cruz Soars to Front of the Pack in Iowa Poll; Trump Support Stays Flat:
Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa survey also brings no joy to Ben Carson or Jeb Bush.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articl...s-flat-ii3p88rp

Yes he did and I'm well aware because I get his e-mails, as I'm on his team.
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 08:35 PM


Yep. Here we go. Trump's tossing raw meat to his white supremacist knuckle heads.



With the Führer's playbook in hand...

Is Donald Trump Getting His Cues from Hitler? How the GOP Leader Is Following the Führer's Recipe
From bedside reading to the 2016 campaign trail


By Steven Rosenfeld / AlterNet

December 10, 2015


Donald Trump is an apparent fan of Adolf Hitler’s speeches.

That stunning but not entirely surprising revelation comes from his ex-wife Ivana, who told Vanity Fair in a 1990 interview that “from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.” The magazine said Trump confirmed he got it from a film industry friend, Marty Davis. “I thought he would find it interesting,” Davis said. “I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”

Adolf Hitler’s My New Order is not just any book. It came after Hitler’s two-volume Mein Kampf (German for My Struggle), and was published in 1925 and 1926 before the Nazi rise to national power and World War II. It is not just a collection of excerpts from speeches Hitler made between 1918 and 1941; it is profusely indexed and filled with details about the speeches’ impact on the media and political establishment.

The American literary magazine Kirkus Review, founded in 1933, puts it this way: “Paralleling actual quotations from Hitler’s own utterances, he [the editor of the English edition] includes corresponding data showing the effect on the world press, and his own commentary relating the statements to doctrines previously presented in Mein Kampf… Section after section follows pattern-background, speech, press.”

Ivana Trump told Vanity Fair that her ex-husband occasionally read it, which supports the rest of the magazine's profile of a tycoon who loved to live in the public eye and manipulate media coverage. Trump, after confirming he had the book, later told the reporter, “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

Nobody can know what Trump reads or does not read—or if he even reads. But it appears that one way or another, much of the content in My New Order about how Hitler says propaganda works, and how he structures his speaking style, and how Hitler targets the lowest-common denominator as his intended audience, has seeped into Trump: the way he speaks, argues, rages and responds in public. This goes beyond what has been reported in the New York Times, which analyzed 95,000 words from five months of speeches and concluded that Trump shares a style with the 20th century's biggest demagogues.

Read on: http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/do...-fuhrers-recipe
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 08:43 PM

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obama-admits-communist-schooled-him-on-white-racism/

In his 1995 book, Dreams from My Father, Barack Obama never discussed the identity of the mysterious “Frank” who had given him important advice on growing up black in what was described as a white racist world. We learned in 2008 that “Frank” was Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Communist Party who was the subject of a 600-page FBI file. Still, the major media never asked Obama about this important relationship during his growing up years in Hawaii.

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/co...guess-which-one
Communist Party USA Has Decided To Endorse a Major Political Party! Can You Guess Which One?

While the Communist Party never actually disappeared from the United States, despite the efforts many years ago of some on Congress, they have in recent years become quite vocal about their goals and their support for the Democrat Party.
They stopped running their own candidates years ago and have pushed and supported Democrats for many years now.

https://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2015/02/26/communist-party-endorses-clinton-democrats/
Communist Party Endorses Clinton,
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 09:22 PM


Not only are those stories utterly misrepresentative of the true context and the central points of the well-documented history of white racism in American, but the writers (and you) appear to have a shamefully pathetic understanding of true communism. Not that any of that has a single thing to do with Trump and his abjectly racist beliefs.

You can't win the game honestly, so you attempt to cheat and/or change the rules.

How typical.
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 09:29 PM


You expect to gut fish using that hackneyed bait Richie?

Wow.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 09:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Cruz Soars to Front of the Pack in Iowa Poll; Trump Support Stays Flat:
Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa survey also brings no joy to Ben Carson or Jeb Bush.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articl...s-flat-ii3p88rp

Yes he did and I'm well aware because I get his e-mails, as I'm on his team.

And yet your arguments are a constant spinnaker reacting to the ever-changing political squalls of the right.
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 09:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Cruz Soars to Front of the Pack in Iowa Poll; Trump Support Stays Flat:
Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa survey also brings no joy to Ben Carson or Jeb Bush.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articl...s-flat-ii3p88rp

Yes he did and I'm well aware because I get his e-mails, as I'm on his team.

And yet your arguments are a constant spinnaker reacting to the ever-changing political squalls of the right.

True that Timbo. Uncle high pants will play yo-yo with his turds until the GOP convention. Gotta be distressing. grin
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 09:56 PM


Made all the more "interesting" (and no doubt maddening to him) that it's shaping up to be a split (contested)
convention! grin
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 09:57 PM


Ouch! laugh
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 10:00 PM

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=1770
CBS CEO admires Trump and said Go Trump!
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/12/15 10:18 PM


Little surprise there Richie. More than a few Zionists love Trump.
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 08:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
The only one I actively support is Cruz through donations.

Me too. Obviously some people can't handle simple reading comprehension on this forum.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 08:40 AM

I just heard a journalist say on Meet the Press that Cruz scares the Republican establishment more than Trump because Trump makes Cruz sound reasonable.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 09:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Teonan

Little surprise there Richie. More than a few Zionists love Trump.



LOL, I see a lurker jump in and out on the subject of Trump and deem some posters illiterate, simple and incomprehensible because people disagree with them. What ever happen to the Democratic process wherein individuals can express their personal opinions through dialogue and voting? Furthermore, history will recall 8 long years of our country reaching an all time low in regard to economics, war conflicts and healthcare coverage yet our reversing those trends are upsetting the Conservatives...now tell me, who seems to fail basic comprehension? whistle
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 09:35 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
The only one I actively support is Cruz through donations.

Me too. Obviously some people can't handle simple reading comprehension on this forum.
I make a point that Rich and I never said we support Trump and posters insist we do. Who has time for that crap? How would you like to make a clear statement and then people try to put words in your mouth you never said????? I don't have time to waste on stupid, mean people on this forum. Grow up, wake up and help save our Republic or shut up. You look very immature. People who read the forum must wonder where you come off posting other posters opinions. Stupid
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 09:45 AM

ROTFLMBO, do you have the time to do something different than offering your opinion here? well here's your chance to not be bogged down with all this "nonsense" BTW, your mention of Cruz is obvious and anyone falsely assuming that you're a Trump fan is solely in the recesses of your own cranial. whistle
Freedom of speech gave you the right to express yourself yet that same freedom never put a gun to your head and made you come here.
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 09:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
ROTFLMBO, do you have the time to do something different than offering your opinion here? well here's your chance to not be bogged down with all this "nonsense" BTW, your mention of Cruz is obvious and anyone falsely assuming that you're a Trump fan is solely in the recesses of your own cranial. whistle
Freedom of speech gave you the right to express yourself yet that same freedom never put a gun to your head and made you come here.
ROFLMAO you did it again....I said "crap" not "nonsense" Case closed.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 10:49 AM

Obviously Formermac has nothing better to do with his time. Maybe that’s why he’s so frustrated. We should feel sorry for him and others like him.
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 11:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Obviously Formermac has nothing better to do with his time. Maybe that’s why he’s so frustrated. We should feel sorry for him and others like him.


I do, I do. You have no idea how sad it makes me that people on this forum are so hard to communicate with. My neighbors! Right now we should be building bridges, not watching the sewage flow by and keep wallowing in it.

I am guilty as well of calling people stupid for being a liberal. After all it's not their fault they love communism, Marxism, socialism and no moral rules. They are anti American and I am the opposite.. I sometimes have a snarky remark when liberals don't get it. It;s as if we live on different planets. I just can't see how to get the other side meet me in the middle. I build half the bridge and they should build the other. Be serious for a change and let's fix the mess both Reps and Dems made so we can live in some semblance of harmony in the future.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 11:31 AM

ROFLMAO

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-goes-ted-cruz-155700757.html

Donald Trump has a new target: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).

In multiple interviews Sunday, Trump took aim at Cruz. He said the senator's tactics in Congress had demonstrated that he would be incapable of driving the legislative agenda from the White House, and at one point called Cruz a "little bit of a maniac."

"I don't think he's qualified to be president," Trump told Fox News' Chris Wallace in a pre-taped interview that aired on Sunday. "Look at the way he's dealt with the Senate, where he goes in there — like, you know, frankly, like a little bit of a maniac. You're never going to get things done that way."

In an interview on CNN, Trump added: "I actually get along with people much better than he does. You know people don't know that about me: I actually have a great relationship with people."

Trump has become increasingly willing to jab at Cruz amid his surge in polls, where he is challenging Trump's status as the front-runner in the influential first-caucus state of Iowa.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 11:32 AM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
It;s as if we live on different planets. I just can't see how to get the other side meet me in the middle. I build half the bridge and they should build the other. Be serious for a change and let's fix the mess both Reps and Dems made so we can live in some semblance of harmony in the future.
More than anyone else, this is what the TEA Party Republicans have refused to do.
Posted by: WilllOWisp

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 11:56 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
It;s as if we live on different planets. I just can't see how to get the other side meet me in the middle. I build half the bridge and they should build the other. Be serious for a change and let's fix the mess both Reps and Dems made so we can live in some semblance of harmony in the future.
More than anyone else, this is what the TEA Party Republicans have refused to do.
Where are your links to prove this? LOL. It getting to be fun to shove liberalism in your face. Sadly I have to go out. Peace and love!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 12:03 PM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
It;s as if we live on different planets. I just can't see how to get the other side meet me in the middle. I build half the bridge and they should build the other. Be serious for a change and let's fix the mess both Reps and Dems made so we can live in some semblance of harmony in the future.
More than anyone else, this is what the TEA Party Republicans have refused to do.
Where are your links to prove this? LOL. It getting to be fun to shove liberalism in your face. Sadly I have to go out. Peace and love!
OMG. It is on the news all the time! Please hurry back. From Fox news:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/03/republicans-have-already-won-so-why-wont-compromise.html

Why won't they compromise?
Julie Roginsky

One of the great mysteries of the current budget crisis is why Republicans did not declare victory and pass a continuing resolution last week funding government through the end of the year.

The resolution that is at the root of this crisis already establishes sequestration-level funding that President Obama and Senate Democrats have repeatedly said is unacceptably low but which they were willing to swallow in order to avoid a government shutdown.

That is the kind of compromise that, under normal circumstances, Republicans should celebrate. They got Democrats to accept a continuation of drastic, across-the-board spending cuts that are anathema to the president and his base. And yet members of the Tea Party, from Senator Ted Cruz to Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, have driven the Republican Party so far though the looking glass that even a compromise that so greatly favored their side has not been enough.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 12:35 PM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
The only one I actively support is Cruz through donations.

Me too. Obviously some people can't handle simple reading comprehension on this forum.
I make a point that Rich and I never said we support Trump and posters insist we do. Who has time for that crap? How would you like to make a clear statement and then people try to put words in your mouth you never said????? I don't have time to waste on stupid, mean people on this forum. Grow up, wake up and help save our Republic or shut up. You look very immature. People who read the forum must wonder where you come off posting other posters opinions. Stupid

Nobody's insisted on anything of the sort. We're simply amused by your inability/unwillingness to have the courage of your own convictions by sticking with a single candidate, rather than flapping frantically in the wind at each political perturbation.

We know, we know... you're only "hedging your bets". crazy
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 12:38 PM

Everything old is new again.....

Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 01:01 PM


"I do, I do. You have no idea how sad it makes me that people on this forum are so hard to communicate with"

And yet you're the one who habitually dodges questions posed to you, changes the subject, refuses to provide evidence when applicable and readily resorts to childish name-calling. Excuse me for not buying-into you're supposed "sincerity".

Crocodile tears. smirk

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"Right now we should be building bridges, not watching the sewage flow by and keep wallowing in it."

Insipid vagaries. Explain (and be specific).

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"I am guilty as well of calling people stupid for being a liberal. After all it's not their fault they love communism, Marxism, socialism and no moral rules."

Not nearly as stupid as throwing around terms that you don't even remotely understand nor are willing to, for that matter.

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"They are anti American and I am the opposite"

American enough to have served this country in the US armed forces, perhaps? If so, where and when???

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"I sometimes have a snarky remark when liberals don't get it."

Example...

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"I just can't see how to get the other side meet me in the middle. I build half the bridge and they should build the other."

Again, EXAMPLE...

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"Be serious for a change and let's fix the mess both Reps and Dems made so we can live in some semblance of harmony in the future."

OK, Wanna be serious? I'm deathly serious. Give us a laundry-list of messes created by Republicans.



You see, your utterly intransigent disingenuousness won't allow you to answer honestly, these questions being put to you. A necessary ingredient in "building bridges", I might add.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 02:43 PM

ROFLMAO. This is too funny for words in so many ways.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-cruz-nobody-likes-192100262.html

When the school bully starts glowering in your direction, the worst thing you can do is hold up your hands and say, “Please don’t hit me.” It’s a lesson most of us learn in the schoolyard, but one that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz seems to have forgotten.

Cruz, who is making a strong run in Republican presidential primary polling, has done everything he can to put off an inevitable showdown with frontrunner Donald Trump. The reluctance is understandable – Trump’s attacks on other candidates in the race have been devastatingly effective. To avoid them, Cruz has refused to seriously confront some of the billionaire’s most outrageous statements, and he has repeatedly said how glad he is to have Trump in the race.

Late last week though, the mask slipped ever so slightly. In a closed-door meeting with supporters last week, according to a recording obtained by The New York Times, Cruz suggested that voters might be concerned Trump doesn’t have the “judgment” necessary to be in charge of nuclear weapons. Further, he said that his repeated praise of Trump has been calculated to assure that when the former reality television star falters, he will collect “the lions share” of trump voters.

Cruz at first tried to cast doubt on the accuracy of The Times story, but when the audio was released, he could no longer deny it. Instead, he took to social media to proclaim that he doesn’t want to fight with Trump, whom he referred to as “terrific.”

Trump took a few lazy swipes at Cruz on social media heading into the weekend, but it was in two taped interviews for CNN’s State of the Union and Fox News Sunday that he revealed the line of attack he’s planning to use.

And, in keeping with the schoolyard bully metaphor, it boils down to: “Nobody likes you!”

Okay, even Trump is more subtle than that, at least sometimes. What he went after Cruz for was his “temperament,” saying that the Texan doesn’t have the personality to be president.

Many will no doubt view it as beyond parody that a thin-skinned former reality television star, who lashes out on social media and in public remarks at the most trivial of slights, should be talking about his opponent’s temperament. But, as with a lot of the attacks Trump has leveled on his opponents in the past, there’s a grain of truth in his criticisms that he will, by constant repetition, try to force into the minds of Cruz supporters.

In this case, it’s that people who know Ted Cruz just don’t like him.

By most accounts, Cruz is loathed by many of his fellow Republicans in the Senate, to the point where he is now often refused common legislative courtesies. Journalists have done multiple pieces exploring Cruz’s background, and with few exceptions they find former colleagues and acquaintances practically standing in line to say they can’t stand him. Now Trump appears to have made the decision that Cruz’s inability to make people like him is his biggest vulnerability.

Asked by CNN host Jake Tapper on Sunday morning why voters should prefer him to Cruz, Trump said, “Because I’m more capable. Because I have a much better temperament. Because I actually get along with people much better than he does.

“People don’t know that about me. I actually have a great relationship with people. In fact I was criticized at the beginning because I get along with Democrats and liberals and Republicans and conservatives. I get along with everybody...”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 02:54 PM

Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Obviously Formermac has nothing better to do with his time. Maybe that’s why he’s so frustrated. We should feel sorry for him and others like him.


I do, I do. You have no idea how sad it makes me that people on this forum are so hard to communicate with. My neighbors! Right now we should be building bridges, not watching the sewage flow by and keep wallowing in it.

I am guilty as well of calling people stupid for being a liberal. After all it's not their fault they love communism, Marxism, socialism and no moral rules. They are anti American and I am the opposite.. I sometimes have a snarky remark when liberals don't get it. It;s as if we live on different planets. I just can't see how to get the other side meet me in the middle. I build half the bridge and they should build the other. Be serious for a change and let's fix the mess both Reps and Dems made so we can live in some semblance of harmony in the future.


ROTFLMAO

Funny how the Liberals have stated emphatically that the Republicans need to exit the clown bus and get to work. Now name one solitary item the GOP has advance that is helping the country? No healthcare, No wage increase, No job creation, No party cohesion, No Sir, the Republicans have earn the distinction of being a broken party since the Midterm, we'll continue to allow them the credit for their own dysfunction.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 05:53 PM

https://scorchedearthnews.wordpress.com/2015/12/10/trump-support-likely-over-50/
Trump Support Likely Over 50%
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/13/15 06:00 PM

No links needed here, 50% of what portion of the country? Seeing that he has insulted Blacks, Jews,Muslim,the Hispanics,women etc. it appear that what we have left is a bunch of radical and racist Whites that are bold enough to state their support...all which I agree, they have the right to vote and support whom they want. laugh

Based on this link, White and uneducated is the big draw.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/the-deep-dive-who-supports-donald-trump
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 06:19 AM

http://conservativepost.com/this-is-huge...ands-of-people/

TRUMP LAYS DOWN A HUGE CLAIM…
Top Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump went after Hillary Clinton saying she was behind the deaths of thousands as Secretary of the State.

Trump made an appearance on Fox News to respond to Clinton’s recent comments regarding Trump’s proposal to temporarily ban Muslims from entering U.S. borders.

“She is the one that caused all this problem with her stupid policies,” Trump said.

“You look at what she did with Libya, what she did with Syria. Look at Egypt, what happened with Egypt, a total mess,” he added.

“She was truly—if not the—one of the worst secretaries of state in the history of the country,” Trump continued.

“She talks about me being dangerous. She’s killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity.”

Watch below:

click on url to watch video
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 06:26 AM

In all honesty, does that statement surprise anyone seeing that Trump is caustic and vile, especially when his ratings are slipping, remember son, he doesn't lose well. grin
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 06:32 AM

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-ele...g-trump-n479046


Another annoying aspect of your posting isn't the fact that you're voting for Trump but why do you see the need to reiterate your support, believe us............we get it! Maybe you don't.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 07:08 AM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Monday, December 14

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ Clinton 50, Trump 40 Clinton +10
General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ Clinton 48, Cruz 45 Clinton +3
General Election: Rubio vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ Rubio 48, Clinton 45 Rubio +3
General Election: Carson vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ Carson 47, Clinton 46 Carson +1

Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 07:20 AM

ROTFLMBO, I like this chart, now explain how you can you lag behind within your own party yet in a match up with Hillary, win the race? Logic is a missing factor, either with the chart or within the people polled.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 07:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
ROTFLMBO, I like this chart, now explain how you can you lag behind within your own party yet in a match up with Hillary, win the race? Logic is a missing factor, either with the chart or within the people polled.
More independent voters went for Rubio and Carson but not Trump or Cruz?
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 07:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://conservativepost.com/this-is-huge...ands-of-people/

TRUMP LAYS DOWN A[NOTHER] HUGE LAYER OF MORE BULLSHHT

(And totally ignores the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed as a result of Republican neo-con adventurism.)
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 05:20 PM

http://conservativeintel.com/2015/12/12/...ive+intel+daily
Donald Trump DOUBLES His Lead In New Hampshire!

2016 GOP Presidential frontrunner Donald Trump has increased his lead in New Hampshire, doubling his margin from September to an impressive 18 point advantage over his nearest competitor.

According to The Hill:
“Businessman Donald Trump has increased his lead in New Hampshire’s GOP presidential primary to 18 percentage points, a poll found Tuesday — nearly double his lead in September.

Trump has 32 percent in the Granite State, the CNN/WMUR survey found…

The December poll found that 59 percent believe Trump is winning New Hampshire’s primary. And 34 percent believe he is the Republican candidate with the best chance of winning the general election.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) ranks second with 14 percent, with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie in third at 9 percent, followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 8 percent and Ohio Gov. John Kasich at 7 percent.”
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 05:56 PM

All that shows is that Lincoln was right -- you CAN fool some of the people all of the time.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 06:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
All that shows is that Lincoln was right -- you CAN fool some of the people all of the time.
good point.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
All that shows is that Lincoln was right Tru-- you CAN fool some of the people all of the time.
Trump apparently has no faults at all:

Donald Trump’s doctor released a medical report so silly that when we asked the American Medical Association about its language, their spokesman started to laugh.

Donald Trump’s doctor appears to be just as bombastic as he is.

It’s the only conclusion to be drawn from a hilariously bizarre letter that the mogul’s doctor—Harold Bornstein—wrote about his yuuuugely terrific health. And the letter raises as many questions as it answers.

Bornstein, a Manhattan gastroenterologist who shared a medical practice with his father, writes he has been Trump’s doctor since 1980. His father, Jacob Bornstein, died in 2010 at the age of 93. But that didn’t stop Trump from Twitter-thanking Bornstein the elder for writing up his letter.

“I am proud to share this health report, written by the highly respected Dr. Jacob Bornstein of Lenox Hill Hospital,” the mogul tweeted, linking to the letter.

Trump later deleted the tweet, probably because Jacob Bornstein is dead. Harold Bornstein, however, is very much alive and says Donald Trump is the picture of health. In the letter, he describes his health over the past few decades using language that veers from standard to bizarre.

“It’s very odd for a doctor to say, ‘He’s had a complete medical examination that showed only positive results,’” said Jonathan Moreno, a professor of medical ethics at the University of Pennsylvania. “Normally a positive result in the language of medicine is not a good thing. Nonetheless, I will not accuse Dr. Bornstein of not writing his own letter.”

Bornstein also describes Trump’s “laboratory test results” as “astonishingly excellent” (without noting which tests were run). That is a weird thing to say, as not many doctors would describe themselves as “astonished” at their patient’s lab results.

Like Trump, Bornstein seems allergic to detail. And there’s one conspicuous absence in the letter, according to Moreno: It has no mention of whether the mogul has ever had a colonoscopy. Bornstein is a gastroenterologist—not a general practitioner—so if Trump has had a colonoscopy, Bornstein probably did it. And at 69, Trump is of age to get the routine (if unpleasant) test.

“I think that’s a very reasonable question at this point for a journalist to ask: Has he had a colonoscopy?” said Moreno.

If the mogul has had one, Moreno added, voters may be curious as to whether the exam found any colon polyps and, if so, if any had to be removed. A Trump spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment on whether the real estate magnate has had a colonoscopy or had any colon polyps removed.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/14/15 09:45 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585

“I think that’s a very reasonable question at this point for a journalist to ask: Has he had a colonoscopy?” said Moreno.

If the mogul has had one, Moreno added, voters may be curious as to whether the exam found any colon polyps and, if so, if any had to be removed. A Trump spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment on whether the real estate magnate has had a colonoscopy or had any colon polyps removed.

It's extremely unlikely that Trump has had a colonoscopy or had any polyps removed because that would mean that he is not what many people believe him to be -- a perfect assh___. On the other hand, if he did have such a procedure, it might have discovered the basis of his policy suggestions, what with his head so far up there and all...
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/15/15 10:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Everything old is new again.....






http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dona...kusaolp00000592


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics...s-vegas-n480056
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/15/15 11:20 AM


Donald Trump Rally Turns Ugly:

To black protester:

"Kick his ****!"
"Shoot him!"
"B*****!"
"Sieg Heil!"
"Light The *********** On Fire!"
< huge applause >

Sometimes I Weep for my Country. frown
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/15/15 01:38 PM

Your statement is on point. We as a Nation can now join ranks with China and a few other European nations who deem it appropriate to express their disagreement through physical violence. I really feel sorry for our future generation who lives are now protected by means of metal detectors & armed security guards. GO TRUMP!!!!
The Godfather of promoting violence.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/15/15 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Your statement is on point. We as a Nation can now join ranks with China and a few other European nations who deem it appropriate to express their disagreement through physical violence. I really feel sorry for our future generation who lives are now protected by means of metal detectors & armed security guards. GO TRUMP!!!!
The Godfather of promoting violence.
Polls say a lot of Americans are scared for their future. That includes me
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/15/15 02:42 PM

I came from an era where my parents protected me in terms of keeping me out of ear shot and sight of nasty and vicious harm. Have you driven down the roads lately to the sight of pickup trucks having a pair of male appendages hanging off the trailer hitch? How about the vile writings scrolled across the back vehicle windows? Well, as a Father, Grandfather and citizen who love his family, I see a future that is already facing harm without the intervention of foreigners. How many schools experience bomb threats and mass killings when you were a kids? I am scare as well but where we differ?........The Americans presently here in the our country with massive caches of guns,racist Whites and Blacks,child molestation, school bullying etc. Lets address this example that Trumps is leading, the acts of inciting hatred toward people not like us and doing nothing to stop it. Mr. John McCain was a true gentleman who lost a tight race yet never losing his dignity and decorum.....lets address the "true enemy" collectively as a nation and then we all can collectively fight ISIS who has already figured us out......."they're greatly divided, you only need kill them by escalating the existing mindsets"



http://www.infowars.com/100-facts-about-...azy-to-believe/
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/15/15 02:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Lets address this example that Trumps is leading, the acts of inciting hatred toward people not like us and doing nothing to stop it. Mr. John McCain was a true gentleman who lost a tight race yet never losing his dignity and decorum.....lets address the "true enemy" collectively as a nation and then we all can collectively fight ISIS who has already figured us out......
Very well said.
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/15/15 02:56 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Your statement is on point. We as a Nation can now join ranks with China and a few other European nations who deem it appropriate to express their disagreement through physical violence. I really feel sorry for our future generation who lives are now protected by means of metal detectors & armed security guards. GO TRUMP!!!!
The Godfather of promoting violence.
Polls say a lot of Americans are scared for their future. That includes me


Das Sturmabteilung - Amerikan-style...

Trump Campaign Rally Erupts In Chaos And Ugly Confrontation

“Kick his ass!” yelled one supporter. “Shoot him!” shouted another. Trump’s rally takes on a sinister tone the night before the Republican debate amid clashes with protesters.


Buzzfeed
McKay Coppins

Dec. 15, 2015


LAS VEGAS — Donald Trump’s campaign rally had only been underway for a few minutes Monday night when the first angry eruption occurred.

The Republican frontrunner had invited a supporter up to the stage to recount how his son was killed by an undocumented immigrant. Midway though the story, a pair of protesters interrupted.

“That’s why we need gun control!” one called out from the sea of Trump die-hards in the Westgate Resort and Casino ballroom.

A zealous chorus of boos filled the room, while the two protesters brandished a homemade poster (“NO HATE. YOU’RE FIRED.”) and began shouting over the din. Demonstrations of this sort are fairly common in presidential campaigns, and the brigade of meaty security guards on duty had strategically positioned themselves throughout the crowd so as to be able to swiftly and discreetly remove any troublemakers.

But it quickly became clear Monday night that the protesters had no interest in a quiet extraction — nor, for that matter, did Trump.

By the time security swooped in, several amped-up Trump supporters had already encircled the protesters — booing, and chanting, and slowly closing in — while a crush of smartphone-wielding media scrambled to capture footage of the clash. The guards managed to remove one protester, but the other resisted, stiffening his limbs and screaming about the First Amendment as they tried to haul him toward the exits. When he toppled to the floor, a horde of rallygoers assembled to hurl insults and threats at him.

“Light the motherf****er on fire!” one Trump supporter yelled.

Physical altercations between protesters, security, and the occasional tough-guy supporter have been a running theme in Trump’s combative campaign this year — but Monday night was different. Reporters who regularly cover Trump said they had never seen anything like the fevered, frenzied mood that gripped the ballroom in Las Vegas.

With the candidate’s ever darkening political style seeming to grow more perversely effective by the day, his grassroots opponents on the left are becoming more defiant and effective at causing trouble. Activists interrupted Trump at least half a dozen times at the event — and the longer the night wore on, the more crazed many in the crowd seemed to get.

One after another, protesters were forcibly dragged from the ballroom — limbs flailing, torsos twisting in resistance — while wild-eyed Trump supporters spewed abuse and calls to violence.

“Kick his ass!” yelled one.

“Shoot him!” shouted another.

When a white activist proclaimed “Black lives matter!” as she was being carted out of the building, a male Trump supporter leaned toward her and snapped, “White lives matter.”

According to NBC News, someone at the Trump rally even yelled a German Nazi-era salute — “Sieg heil!” — while a protester was being removed from the event.

Trump, meanwhile, gleefully narrated the madness from his podium like a tabloid talk show host presiding over an on-camera brawl between guests — egging on the confrontation, whipping the audience into a frenzy, and basking in his fans’ celebratory chants.

“Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!”

“This is what we should have been doing to the other side for the last seven years!” Trump exclaimed during one of the scuffles with protesters.

At several points, Trump berated the reporters in the room for taking pictures of the clashes. “They are terrible!” Trump hissed of the press. “The worst!” Hundreds of riled-up Trump fans turned to face the press corps, and booed loudly.

But while Trump and his hardcore supporters seemed to be enjoying themselves, not everyone was thrilled by the night’s unexpected turn toward mayhem. Families with young kids scampered toward the exits well before Trump wrapped up, and some elderly people had to leave in search of medical assistance.

Among those most put off by the display, though, were the recreational spectators who had stopped by simply to see Trump’s famous performance in person.

“I just came for the spectacle,” said Stephan Reilly, a left-leaning Las Vegas resident whose college-aged son had tagged along for kicks. “This is the best show in town!”

But by the end of the night, neither of them were smiling much.

“I’m very alarmed,” Reilly said.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/tru...ion#.snqXG4M8wd
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/15/15 03:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan
Among those most put off by the display, though, were the recreational spectators who had stopped by simply to see Trump’s famous performance in person.

“I just came for the spectacle,” said Stephan Reilly, a left-leaning Las Vegas resident whose college-aged son had tagged along for kicks. “This is the best show in town!”

But by the end of the night, neither of them were smiling much.

“I’m very alarmed,” Reilly said.
I am very scared of where Trump could be leading this country.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/15/15 04:02 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/15/politics/republican-debate-updates/index.html

Donald Trump, the longtime GOP front-runner, will take center stage at the prime-time event set to begin at 8:30 p.m. ET in the Venetian theater. He'll be flanked by Ted Cruz, the Texas senator whose poll numbers are on the upswing; and Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon whose political standing has been damaged by a series of gaffes.

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Carson has been damaged by a series of gaffees! No one makes as many gaffes as Trump but his blind eyed supporters just don't care. I find that totally unbelieveable.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/15/15 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
It;s as if we live on different planets. I just can't see how to get the other side meet me in the middle. I build half the bridge and they should build the other. Be serious for a change and let's fix the mess both Reps and Dems made so we can live in some semblance of harmony in the future.
More than anyone else, this is what the TEA Party Republicans have refused to do.
Where are your links to prove this? LOL. It getting to be fun to shove liberalism in your face. Sadly I have to go out. Peace and love!
OMG. It is on the news all the time! Please hurry back. From Fox news:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/03/republicans-have-already-won-so-why-wont-compromise.html

Why won't they compromise?
Julie Roginsky

One of the great mysteries of the current budget crisis is why Republicans did not declare victory and pass a continuing resolution last week funding government through the end of the year.

The resolution that is at the root of this crisis already establishes sequestration-level funding that President Obama and Senate Democrats have repeatedly said is unacceptably low but which they were willing to swallow in order to avoid a government shutdown.

That is the kind of compromise that, under normal circumstances, Republicans should celebrate. They got Democrats to accept a continuation of drastic, across-the-board spending cuts that are anathema to the president and his base. And yet members of the Tea Party, from Senator Ted Cruz to Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, have driven the Republican Party so far though the looking glass that even a compromise that so greatly favored their side has not been enough.
This was your last post on the forums, WillOWisp. I guess you are not going to come back and see how wrong you were?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/15/15 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Among those most put off by the display, though, were the recreational spectators who had stopped by simply to see Trump’s famous performance in person.

“I just came for the spectacle,” said Stephan Reilly, a left-leaning Las Vegas resident whose college-aged son had tagged along for kicks. “This is the best show in town!”

But by the end of the night, neither of them were smiling much.

“I’m very alarmed,” Reilly said.
I am very scared of where Trump could be leading this country.



Do you think that Trump is leading them or found that perfect opportunity to listen and now tell them what they wanted to hear for quite a spell? Remember the fact that Conservatives were disenchanted with the GOP for years(The Tea Party brief success is an example) but soon found their popularity waning due to radicalism. Now here we are a few years later with the same scenario, one Mr. Donald Trump, who has phonemically found the "jet stream" carrying him to the pentacle of political euphoria. Our only hope is some sensible rhetoric coming from the Republicans who have spent 7 years being anti Obama and nothing else thus promoting an opportunist like Trump. The GOP has gotten just what it deserves but our country deserved better, something the GOP should have realized back in 2000 and going forward.Bush destroyed the party through war and failed economics, Trump will ruin the party through caustic rhetoric. Take my word, trump won't make it past the primaries before he jumps ship and go Independent.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/16/15 06:09 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/15/politics/republican-debate-updates/index.html

Donald Trump, the longtime GOP front-runner, will take center stage at the prime-time event set to begin at 8:30 p.m. ET in the Venetian theater. He'll be flanked by Ted Cruz, the Texas senator whose poll numbers are on the upswing; and Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon whose political standing has been damaged by a series of gaffes.

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Carson has been damaged by a series of gaffees! No one makes as many gaffes as Trump but his blind eyed supporters just don't care. I find that totally unbelieveable.




Embarrassing to say the least
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/16/15 07:11 AM

http://www.vox.com/2015/12/16/10274602/republican-debate-winners-losers

DEBATE WINNER LAST NIGHT: Hilliary Clinton

If you asked Hillary Clinton to rank her preferred general election opponents in order, odds are that Cruz and Trump would top the list. Trump is a candidate almost tailor-made to energize Latino turnout and turn the demographic even more strongly pro-Democratic. And Cruz has most of Trump's substantive liabilities plus has proposed a massive 16 percent sales tax on everything. Both of them are extremely potent boogeymen to get base Democrats enraged/energized. And none of them have the ability to make inroads with young and Latino voters that Marco Rubio has.

And so when Trump and Cruz win a debate, Clinton implicitly wins the debate as well. She's getting exactly the Republican primary she wants, and it shows no signs of getting worse for her anytime soon.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/16/15 07:26 AM

Exactly, do you see the vast and distinct extremism between each Republican candidate and their followings? This exposes a stark reality that the GOP is fractured,out of touch and unrealistic in achieving goals.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/17/15 10:55 AM

Birds of a feather flock together

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/17/politics/russia-putin-trump/

Putin praises 'bright and talented' Trump


It is amazing that Putin is so interested in our elections yet doesn't allow anything resembling a few election in his country.




Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/17/15 11:37 AM

Out of touch you say? They would blame all of the country's ills on the Democrats being too "politically correct" and unafraid to speak the truth about the problems facing us. Well, if Tuesday's debate was any example, the Republicans have no need to feel guilty about being politically correct. Instead, "the overwhelming bulk of what the GOP candidates had to say was pure, unadulterated horseshht," according to Daniel Drezner, writing in the Washington Post.

From boasts about shooting down Russian planes, carpet bombing (with no civilian casualties), "penetrating" the internet so terrorists can't communicate or proselytize, killing the families of suspected terrorists, and to top it off, the assertion that Obama hasn't kept the country safe all sounded like the crowd down at the corner tavern after the fifth round of beer.

We should realize that it's too much to expect something specific from any of these clowns, but since they're currently focused on "keeping the country safe," I'd like to know what any of them would do (within the constitutional boundaries that we live with) to prevent another mass shooting from happening here. Keep in mind that mass shootings are far more likely to happen in the US than an attack by "radical Islamic terrorists."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/17/15 04:35 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/bush-considered-backing-pledge-nominee-trump-aide-173719455.html

By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush's campaign has looked into whether it is possible to withdraw a pledge to support the eventual nominee if it is Donald Trump, a senior Bush aide said on Thursday, in a sign of the deep enmity between the two.

The development came to light after Bush and Trump engaged in bitter exchanges at the last Republican debate of the year on Tuesday night in Las Vegas.

Last week in New Hampshire, Bush insisted he would not need to withdraw his support for the nominee because he did not believe Trump would win the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.

Behind the scenes, top aides have looked into whether Bush would still qualify to be on the ballots in all 50 states because some states require a loyalty pledge in order to be on the ballot.

A driving factor behind the move was Trump's proposal to ban all Muslims from entering the United States, a step that Bush denounced to Trump's face at the debate.

"We received lots of questions following Donald Trump’s most recent unhinged proposal so our campaign did due diligence looking into the rules surrounding the pledge," said a senior Bush aide who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Still, Bush has not moved to declare he would not support Trump if he wins the nomination fight.

"Governor Bush made explicitly clear on Tuesday his view that Donald Trump would be a chaos president who would be wrong for the country. Voters know where he stands. His focus is on defeating him in the primary," the aide said.

Trump has said he does not want Bush's endorsement.

Trump, the front-runner in national polls of Republican voters and leading in some of the early voting states, has taunted Bush all year.

Bush fought back with gusto at the debate, and the well-funded Super PAC that supports him, Right To Rise, released a television ad on Thursday that described the former Florida governor as "the one candidate tough enough to take on the bully." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqpK4NVuIV4&feature=youtu.be)

It is to air in Iowa, which holds the first nominating contest of the 2016 election on Feb. 1, as well as the two next states to hold contests, New Hampshire and South Carolina.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/17/15 09:47 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...-won-this-time/
Republican Debate Grades: Trump Actually Won This Time

Tonight’s Republican debate did little to shift the field. After tonight, Donald Trump will remain the frontrunner; Jeb Bush will continue to bring up the rear; John Kasich will continue to be the boil festering on the ass of the American public.

The debate did, however, highlight weaknesses with some of the second-place contenders – all of whom hope to overcome Trump with a bit of luck and a lot of their fellow candidates dropping out.

Without further ado, here are my debate grades. Remember, I don’t give pluses or minuses for purposes of clarity. There’s no grade inflation here.

Donald Trump: A. Yes, dear Trumpian readers, this is the grade you’ve given Trump for every debate. But this time I actually agree. Every debate comes down to moments. Trump had several of them that were simply grand. He looked reasonable in his policy on Libya and Syria – not in small part because the far more fluid Senator Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) agreed with him. He looked hard-core on ISIS – not in small part because Senator

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) didn’t agree with him. He looked tough on immigration. And most of all, he continued to beat Jeb Bush like a redheaded stepchild who dropped his stepdad’s prized Tom Landry-signed football in the outhouse. The exchange that mattered most to Trump came when Jeb said that Trump couldn’t insult his way to the presidency. Au contraire, said Trump: “I’m at 42 and you’re at 3. So far, I’m doing better.” Then he continued, pointing at the middle of the stage, “You started off over here, Jeb. You’re moving over further and further. Pretty soon you’re going to be off the end.”

That’ll leave a mark.

Ted Cruz: B. Cruz bested Marco Rubio in several exchanges, and he prevented Donald Trump from going off on him. For that, he gets a B. He had a couple of solid lines, particularly when he stated that the Obama administration’s foreign policy had been disastrous not because of incompetence, but because of malicious political correctness. But he seemed unable to distinguish his immigration plans from Rubio’s, and when he was asked directly by Rubio about whether he’d grant citizenship to illegal immigrants, he said he didn’t intend to do so. That’s lawyer-talk for “maybe.” Trump is now outflanking him on the right on immigration. Tonight Cruz looked strong, but Rubio dirtied him.

Marco Rubio: C. The weakest performance of the cycle for Rubio came when he needed his strongest. That’s because he chose to go after Cruz, who looked early as though he had no inclination to attack Rubio. Cruz wants to play conciliator because he wants to avoid playing into his reputation as divisive; Rubio didn’t let him. Rubio attacked him on defense authorization – an unfair charge. He attacked him on immigration, a somewhat fairer charge. He then attacked him on Libya and Syria – and got hammered. Nobody believes at this point that invading Libya was good policy, nor does anyone think that ousting Bashar Assad in Syria is a top priority. Rubio always seems to grasp the issues, but he seemed to be talking around them a lot tonight.

The danger of being the glossiest candidate is that glossy is easily tarnished.

Ben Carson: D. Carson did nothing for himself tonight. He attempted to show some foreign policy chops, but it was too little, too late. He should have fought back strongly against one particularly unfair question from Hewitt, who asked whether he would be okay with civilian casualties in war; he should have pointed out that no one is okay with such casualties, which is why war is hell. He didn’t. Overall, he looked lost. His support will continue to bleed to Cruz in Iowa.

Rand Paul: B. For the first time, Rand showed up to play. Perhaps that was a function of the fact that Cruz has staked out a middle ground on foreign policy between Rand’s isolationism and Rubio’s interventionism. But he did heavy body work to Rubio on both immigration and foreign policy, and he repeatedly brought up Rubio’s weakest resume point, the Gang of 8 immigration reform bill. It hurt Rubio badly. It’s interesting that Paul went after Rubio rather than Cruz, given that Cruz is the most likely candidate to be holding potential Paul voters. But perhaps he figures he’s tried that tack already.

Chris Christie: C. Christie’s getting one-note. If he turns to camera once more in the middle of a substantive discussion and tells us all how we should pay attention to the real issues and stop with all these distractions, somebody’s going to unleash the bucket of Carrie pig blood on him. It was cute the first time. Now it’s just irritating. He wants to come off as brash and plain-spoken, but the rehearsed routine won’t cut it. He may gain some if Rubio loses some of his luster, and he may pick up some of Kasich’s support. That’s his best hope.

John Kasich: Z. John Kasich is the worst, although at least we didn’t hear that his father is a mailman. Kasich’s incessant petulance and ridiculous schoolmarming adds an unwelcome note of annoyance to every debate. The low point: Kasich explaining that some people say his heart is too big. I’m pretty sure people said his mouth was.

Carly Fiorina: D. Fiorina’s dropped off the map. Tonight she tried to swivel to attacking Hillary repeatedly, which was fine. She went off the rails, however, when she couldn’t decide whether she’s the experienced candidate in the race (NOTE TO CARLY: YOU HAVE NEVER HELD ELECTIVE OFFICE) or whether she’s the outsider. And complaining about not being able to speak does age quickly.

Jeb Bush: D. Why is Jeb still here? Other than to be Donald Trump’s punching bag, that is.

So, there you have it. The Cruz vs. Rubio fireworks allowed Trump to slide by on foreign policy – and he handled himself well, talking tough and bluntly. Cruz will likely gain; Rubio will, too, although he performed less well. If Rubio doesn’t, Christie will pick up some of his following.

But Trump remains in front. Tonight, nobody knocked off his crown.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/18/15 07:39 PM

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/58248093-story
Trump Has Huge Lead in Georgia

The poll conducted by OpinionSavvy for FOX 5 shows Trump with 34 percent of the surveyed voters, followed by Senator Ted Cruz of Texas with 15.8 percent.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/18/15 09:13 PM

http://www.yesimright.com/ann-coulter-ev...ept-trump-whoa/

Ann Coulter: “Every Presidential Candidate Should Drop Out…Except Trump!” WHOA!
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/18/15 10:10 PM

Hmmmm... never considered Ann Coulter to be the voice of reason... and this is further evidence why she isn't...
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/19/15 04:56 PM

http://dcwhispers.com/obama-snarls-against-fbis-immigration-suggestion-you-sound-like-trump/

Obama Snarls Against FBI’s Immigration Suggestion: “YOU SOUND LIKE TRUMP!”

President Obama met today (Dec. 17) with his national security team in a highly staged and publicized event at the Virginia-based National Counterterrorism Center. Shortly before that meeting officially commenced, there is said to have been a brief but heated rebuke by Barack Obama against a “top FBI official” assumed to be Director James Comey.

That rebuke, described as a “snarl” was apparently initiated by Director’s Comey’s alleged suggestion a “temporary pause” be initiated over immigration from certain regions of the world known to be primary breeding grounds for Islamic-based terror. It is in fact a policy suggested earlier by Republican presidential candidates, Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.

The president, who until then is said to have appeared both bored and irritated at having to attend the meeting that was primarily part of a Jarrett-initiated public relations campaign intended to show Mr. Obama remains “strong on terror” preceding what will be an Executive Order gun control measure due to be unleashed by the White House very soon, did a “double-take” following the suggested immigration pause in the face of what is a very real and ongoing terror threat.

Mr. Obama apparently sat at the head of the table clearly unhappy for the remainder of the meeting over the immigration policy suggestion and then made certain that Director Comey stood farthest from him (so far in fact Comey was not even shown by the news cameras) as Mr. Obama addressed the nation – no small feat given Director Comey stands six-foot-eight and thus towers over Barack Obama.

Likely the FBI’s attempt to sway the president’s determination to actually accelerate Muslim immigration into the United States was influenced at least in part by testimony this week from Homeland Security Secretary, Jeh Johnson who admitted when questioned by members of Congress the following:

“We do have to be concerned about the possibility that a terrorist organization may seek to exploit our refugee resettlement process…This is true of this country, that’s true of every other country that accepts refugees.”

It seems there are those affiliated with his own administration who think Mr. Obama is far more concerned with maintaining his focus on defending Muslims even when that focus appears to run counter to protecting Americans from terrorist attack. What appears even more clear at this point is the increasingly icy relationship between the FBI Director and the current President of the United States.

[Note: it’s also clear people within Obama’s own administration agree with Trump]
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/19/15 09:30 PM

So what other whispered rumors are you accepting as fact, Rich? Have you heard the one about Trump's secret gay lover?
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/19/15 10:06 PM

No, Barrack has that market cornered and that wasn’t any secret.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/19/15 10:46 PM

Wow! Doesn't take much to get to your insecurity... you're a perfect match for Trump. He loses it with reporters, people who challenge him, other candidates, etc. It's no wonder Putin would like to see him as President. A cold blooded KGB colonel manipulating an insecure fact-challenged blowhard is quite predictable.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/20/15 05:51 PM

I am being to actually hope Trump wins the Republican nomination.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/12/donald-trump-2016-third-party-bid-213449

Donald Trump may have eased some Republican fears Tuesday night when he declared his intention to stay inside the party. But if their angst has been temporarily eased at the prospect of what he would do if he loses, they still face a far more troubling, and increasingly plausible, question.

What happens to the party if he wins?

With Trump as its standard-bearer, the GOP would suddenly be asked to rally around a candidate who has been called by his once and former primary foes “a cancer on conservatism,” “unhinged,” “a drunk driver … helping the enemy.” A prominent conservative national security expert, Max Boot, has flatly labeled him “a fascist.” And the rhetoric is even stronger in private conversations I’ve had recently with Republicans of moderate and conservative stripes.

This is not the usual rhetoric of intraparty battles, the kind of thing that gets resolved in handshakes under the convention banners. These are stake-in-the-ground positions, strongly suggesting that a Trump nomination would create a fissure within the party as deep and indivisible as any in American political history, driven both by ideology and by questions of personal character.

Indeed, it would be a fissure so deep that, if the operatives I talked with are right, Trump running as a Republican could well face a third-party run—from the Republicans themselves.

That threat, in turn, would leave Republican candidates, contributors and foot soldiers with painful choices. A look at the political landscape, the election rules and the history of intraparty insurgencies suggests that it could turn 2016, a year that offered Republicans a reasonable chance to win the White House and with it total control of the national political apparatus, into a disaster.

***

With Trump as the nominee, the Republican Party would face a threat to unity on several fronts. His victory would represent a triumph of an insurgent movement, or impulse, within the party. Historically speaking, this is exactly the kind of intraparty victory that guarantees political civil war.

The most striking examples of party fissure in American politics have come when a party broke with a long pattern of accommodating different factions and moved decisively toward one side. It has happened with the Democrats twice, both over civil rights. The party had long embraced the cause of civil rights in the North while welcoming segregationists—and white supremacists—from across the South. In 1948, the party’s embrace of a stronger civil rights plank led Southern delegations to walk out of the convention. That year, South Carolina Governor Strom Thurmond led a National States Rights Democratic Party—the “Dixiecrats”—that won four Southern states. Had President Harry Truman not (barely) defeated Tom Dewey in Ohio and California, the Electoral College would have been deadlocked—and the choice thrown into the House of Representatives, with Southern segregationists holding the balance of power. Twenty years later, Alabama Governor George Wallace led a similar anti-civil-rights third party movement that won five Southern states. A relatively small shift of voters in California would have deadlocked that election and thrown it to the House of Representatives.

In two other cases, a dramatic shift in intraparty power led to significant defections on the losing side. In 1964, when Republican conservatives succeeded in nominating a divisive champion of their cause in Barry Goldwater, liberal Republicans (there were such things back then) like New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller, Michigan Governor George Romney and others refused to endorse the nominee. More shockingly, the New York Herald-Tribune, the semi-official voice of the GOP establishment, endorsed Lyndon Johnson—the first Democrat it had supported, ever. With his party split, Goldwater went down in flames. Eight years later, when a deeply divided Democratic Party nominated anti-war hero George McGovern, George Meany led the AFL-CIO to a position of neutrality between McGovern and Richard Nixon—the first time labor had refused to back a Democrat for president. Prominent Democrats like former Texas Governor John Connally openly backed Nixon, while countless others, disempowered by the emergence of “new Democrats,” simply sat on their hands. The divided Democrats lost in a landslide.

Would a Trump nomination be another example of such a power shift? Yes, although not a shift in an ideological sense. It would represent a more radical kind of shift, with power moving from party officials and office-holders to deeply alienated voters and to their media tribunes. (Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham have not exactly endorsed Trump, but they have been vocal in defending him and in assailing those who have branded Trump unacceptable.) It would undermine the thesis of a highly influential book, “The Party Decides,” which argues that the preferences of party insiders is still critical to the outcome of a nomination contest. This possibility, in turn, has provoked strong feelings about Trump from some “old school” Republicans. Says one self-described “structural, sycophantic Republican” who has been involved at high levels of GOP campaigns for decades: “Hillary would be bad for the country—he’d be worse.”

***

A battle over ideology or influence, however, explains only one kind of defection from party ranks. The other—one that would hold particular peril for Trump-as-Republican-nominee—arises from a belief that a chosen candidate is simply unfit, by character or temperament, to hold office. And on at least one occasion, a prominent politician sacrificed his electoral chances out of that belief.

In 1986, former Senator Adlai Stevenson III had every reason to believe he would be following his father's footsteps into the Illinois governor’s mansion. Four years earlier, the Democrat had lost a race for that office by fewer than 5,000 highly disputed votes. But in 1986, his easy primary win in March was overshadowed by what happened elsewhere on the ballot: Two followers of Lyndon LaRouche, a cultish, conspiracy-minded demagogue, won the Democratic nominations for lieutenant governor and secretary of state. Stevenson was so horrified by the thought of placing LaRouche’s acolytes in positions of political power that he bolted the party line, running instead as an independent. He lost decisively. (Sen. Alan Dixon, who remained on the Democratic line, easily won reelection.)

Republicans faced a similar issue in 1991, when former Klansman David Duke made it into the gubernatorial runoff in Louisiana. While he proclaimed himself a Republican, he was roundly rejected by the party at every level—the outgoing GOP governor endorsed former Governor Edwin Edwards—and Duke lost overwhelmingly to Edwards. (It’s a campaign best remembered for the bumper sticker touting the ethically challenged Edwards: “Vote for the crook—it’s important.”)

It’s this example that perhaps offers the best parallel to what Trump would face as the nominee. If you want to see the most sulfurous assaults on Trump, don’t look to the editorial pages of the New York Times or the comments of MSNBC personalities; look instead to the most prominent media voices in the conservative world: National Review, The Weekly Standard, Commentary and the columns of George Will and others. In part, they deplore his deviations from the conservative canon; deviations that former Reagan aide and onetime FCC Chairman Dennis Patrick summarizes this way: “Many of my colleagues from the Reagan administration would have a hard time pulling the lever for Trump. We weren’t just Republicans, we were conservatives. It is very difficult to square any principled theory of conservative governance with much of what Trump says."

But it’s more, much more than policy that has stirred the ire on the right: It’s the vulgarity, the fusion of ignorance and arrogance, the narcissism, the dissembling on matters great and small. The composite portrait of Trump painted by these outlets—leavened only by a grudging acknowledgment that he’s touched on legitimate concerns about immigration and terror—makes the idea of handing over the nuclear codes to Trump unsettling. And it makes the idea of embracing him as the alternative to Hillary Clinton somewhere between a reach and a lunge.

***

What a Trump nomination represents, then, is a victory that leaves significant slices of the party unwilling or unable to accept the outcome. Whether he’s seen as an ideological heretic for his views on trade, taxes and government power or as a demagogue whose clownish bluster and casual bigotry make him temperamentally unfit for office, the odds on massive defections are very high.

But what kind of defections? Based on the folks I’ve talked with, it could take different forms. One is a simple, quiet step away from any work on behalf of the top of the ticket. That’s what the self-described “structural, sycophantic Republican”—will do. While he fervently hopes Trump will meet the fate of past front-runners like [Rudy] Giuliani and [Newt] Gingrich, he says that in the event of Trump’s victory, “I would put all my heart, soul and energy into saving the Senate. I’d work to turn out votes so that [Kelly] Ayotte and [Pat] Toomey and [Ron] Johnson survive. In the end, every Republican, every conservative, knows what a disaster it would be to have Clinton as president. So the key is to make sure the checks and balances were in place.”

Others, however, can envision much more radical outcomes. Dan Schnur spent a lifetime in the vineyards of the Republican Party, working in the Reagan and Bush presidential campaigns and serving as communications director for the California Republican Party. He’s now an independent and heads the Unruh Institute of Politics at USC. He argues “a Trump nomination would virtually guarantee a third-party campaign from a more traditional Republican candidate.”

Why a Republican? The short answer is to save the party over the long term. “It's impossible to conceive that Republican leaders would simply forfeit their party to him,” he says. “Even without the formal party apparatus, they'd need to fly their flag behind an alternative, if only to keep the GOP brand somewhat viable for the future. Otherwise, it would be toxic for a long, long time.”

Romney strategist Stu Stevens, who still believes Trump will fade—indeed, that “he will not win a single primary”—nonetheless agrees that a Trump nomination would trigger a “very strong third-party effort.” And Rob Stutzman, another veteran of California Republican politics—he helped spearhead the 2003 recall that put Arnold Schwarzenegger in the Governor’s Mansion—foresees a third party emerging, both as a safe harbor for disaffected GOP voters and to help other Republican candidates.

“I think a third candidate would be very likely on many state ballots,” he says. “First of all, I think most GOP voters would want an alternative to vote for out of conscience. But Trump would also be devastating to the party and other GOP candidates. A solid conservative third candidate would give options to senators like Ayotte, Johnson and [Mark] Kirk to run with someone else and still be opposed to Hillary. In fact, I think it’s plausible such a candidate could beat Trump in many states.”

Any candidate attempting a third-party bid would confront serious obstacles, such as getting on state ballots late in the election calendar. As for down-ballot campaigns, most state laws prohibit candidates from running on multiple lines; so a Senate or congressional candidate who wanted to avoid association with Trump would have to abandon the GOP line to re-run with an independent presidential contender. The Stevenson example shows that leaving a major party line is fraught with peril—although the write-in triumph of Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski in 2010 suggests that it can sometimes succeed.

The very fact that serious political thinkers are contemplating such a possibility demonstrates that when Republicans look at the perils posed by a third-party bid from Donald Trump, they may be looking in the wrong direction. It’s not Trump the Defector that could trigger the biggest threat to the party, but Trump the Nominee.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...9#ixzz3uuL7L6b9






Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/20/15 06:36 PM

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?i...ampaign=popular

New England Police Union endorses Donald Trump

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=2007
Donald Trump makes new gains in latest Poll - as Jeb Bush calls him names

Why is Donald Trump surging in this new poll? CNN's Lynda Kinkade talks to political correspondent Stephen Collinson.

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=2009

Limbaugh on Frank Luntz, others coming around to that Trump's candidacy, support are real


http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=2010

This Luntz Focus Group on Donald Trump Supporters Is Amazing!


[Note - this is a good video for those wondering why people support Trump.]

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?i...ampaign=popular
Hillary Supporter Thinks She Has The Right To Free Money And Not Work

Typical Hillary Clinton voter says other people should pay for her lifestyle.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/20/15 08:45 PM

Kyle, the Republican Party is already the smaller of the two major parties. GOP 23%; Dems 32%; & Independents 39%. Voters have been jumping ship from both major parties for a long time.

The GOP (RNC) pushed their favorite candidates and individual registered Republicans revolted against them. If the party goes down it will be because of career politicians within the party and not because of any third party run.

Which candidate gets the most votes is not up to me.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: Donald Trump - 12/20/15 09:02 PM

http://twitchy.com/2015/12/19/greg-gutfe...gal-gun-owners/

Another terrorist attack in this country and all the democrats can do is talk about gun control for law abiding citizens and nothing on dealing with terrorists. The only thing O'Malley can talk about is gun shows even after the whole gun show myth has been debunked over and over again.

The more these nitwits speak the more I like Trump.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/20/15 09:40 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
The more these nitwits speak the more I like Trump.

Yeah... that figures right along with your mind set....
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/20/15 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Another terrorist attack in this country and all the democrats can do is talk about gun control for law abiding citizens and nothing on dealing with terrorists.

Another terrorist attack? Even if you chalk up the San Bernardino shootings to terrorism, what about the dozens of mass shootings over the past several decades which have no connection to ISIS but are definitely the equivalent of terrorism?
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/21/15 08:44 PM

The Donald 25 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/embed/MOKi5YeNtRI
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/21/15 09:57 PM

I'd be more interested in knowing how Trump's doctor could ramble on about the excellence Trump's physical condition and how that squares with Trump getting a medical deferment to avoid military service.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 01:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
I'd be more interested in knowing how Trump's doctor could ramble on about the excellence Trump's physical condition and how that squares with Trump getting a medical deferment to avoid military service.
Good point. Apparently Rush Limbaugh got one for a pimple on his butt.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 01:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Kyle, the Republican Party is already the smaller of the two major parties. GOP 23%; Dems 32%; & Independents 39%. Voters have been jumping ship from both major parties for a long time.

The GOP (RNC) pushed their favorite candidates and individual registered Republicans revolted against them. If the party goes down it will be because of career politicians within the party and not because of any third party run.

Which candidate gets the most votes is not up to me.
The number of independents is growing and I think that is good. I think which of the two major parties is smaller changes often. I think they are quite close in size over the long run which is also good.

It is one thing to revolt against the RNC establishment candidates. It is quite another to support somebody like Trump who I find personally horrifying. And Cruz is a close second. I call that the throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 01:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Which candidate gets the most votes is not up to me.
It should be up to us! Iowa and New Hampshire should not be first all the time. It ought to be rotated among all the states or done on a lottery basis or something to give all states a chance to be first. The businesses in those early states have to be taking in a lot of money on all the visitors to them. Even last summer the Iowa state fair had a lot of visitors from politicians.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 05:44 AM

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/fl...bio-cruz-surges

Tyson's analysis suggests Rubio is hurt the most by the presence of Christie, Bush, Carson and the other candidates.

The polls were commissioned by Associated Industries of Florida, a pro-business lobby that tracks the race for its largely Republican membership.............................................

For Florida Republicans, the poll has a measure of bitter irony because it shows that Bush, whose political network fostered Rubio and helped his political career right through his 2010 Senate race, could be costing Rubio a shot at the GOP nomination by virtue of staying in the race and syphoning votes from the senator.

The focus group also drove home the sense of “profound alienation” between Republicans, their party and “elected leaders at virtually all levels of government,” the memo said.

“They also sensed their elected leaders have no interest in the well-being of ordinary Americans but instead perpetuate a government that increasingly disconnects from the needs of the people they serve,” Tyson wrote. “It’s clear that the candidates who best empathize with those sentiments (i.e. Trump & Cruz) will have the best starting position as the 2016 primaries begin.”
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 07:41 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article50890980.html
Trump could sweep Missouri GOP convention delegates, poll shows

The New York businessman leads in every congressional district in the state, a new survey shows

Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas is in second place in every district


If Missouri’s presidential primary were held tomorrow, Donald Trump would likely sweep 49 of the state’s 52 Republican convention delegates, a new poll reveals.

The survey —for Missouri Scout, a private news service, conducted by Remington Research — shows Trump leading Sen. Ted Cruz, 33 percent to 23 percent, among likely Missouri Republican primary voters.
But the more important information is embedded in the poll’s results as broken down by congressional district.

If no primary candidate receives 50 percent of the vote — a likely outcome — Missouri’s GOP convention votes are allocated by congressional district. The state no longer allocates all of its delegates to the statewide winner.

In 2016, the statewide winner will receives nine delegates. Five delegates are then available in each of eight congressional districts, for a total of 49 available delegates.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 08:47 AM

I find it very hard to believe that a man who uses such vulgar language as calling women pigs is the leading candidate for president of the Republican Party. Has our nation really sunk this far?

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015...ent-of-the-time

The Associated Press

Pants on fire?
By Rachel Dicker
Dec. 21, 2015, at 5:07 p.m.

Fact-checking site PolitiFact has named the Donald Trump's "collective misstatements" its "Lie of the Year."

"In considering our annual Lie of the Year, we found our only real contenders were Trump’s -- his various statements also led our Readers’ Poll," PolitiFact wrote on its website. "But it was hard to single one out from the others. So we have rolled them into one big trophy."

PolitiFact checked 77 Trump statements and found that 76 percent of them were Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire.

In other words, for every four statements Donald Trump makes, only one of them is true, according to the site.

"Clearly a lot of voters still care about the truth," Norman Ornstein, a scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, told PolitiFact. "What we don’t know at this point is what share that is."
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 09:19 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
I find it very hard to believe that a man who uses such vulgar language as calling women pigs is the leading candidate for president of the Republican Party. Has our nation really sunk this far?

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015...ent-of-the-time

The Associated Press

Pants on fire?
By Rachel Dicker
Dec. 21, 2015, at 5:07 p.m.

Fact-checking site PolitiFact has named the Donald Trump's "collective misstatements" its "Lie of the Year."

"In considering our annual Lie of the Year, we found our only real contenders were Trump’s -- his various statements also led our Readers’ Poll," PolitiFact wrote on its website. "But it was hard to single one out from the others. So we have rolled them into one big trophy."

PolitiFact checked 77 Trump statements and found that 76 percent of them were Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire.

In other words, for every four statements Donald Trump makes, only one of them is true, according to the site.

"Clearly a lot of voters still care about the truth," Norman Ornstein, a scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, told PolitiFact. "What we don’t know at this point is what share that is."


It's not hard to believe Kyle, think about it, for the last several years, the Democrats,Liberals and Independents have stated the Republicans as the racist and caustic party, yet they pushed back and call us liars and racist in return, now with a candidate who has found that defined niche in satisfying the radicals,is seeing the "chickens coming home to roost" a candidate identifying with ultra conservatism and using rhetoric to maximize the act of inciting that particular base. Ultimately we will see a Conservative base coming out in numbers to dilute this extremism during the primaries, thus minimizing any chances of Trump being the Republican nominee.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 10:27 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/polit...ident/77730672/

Brooks Jackson, Eugene Kiely, Lori Robertson, Robert Farley and D’Angelo Gore, FactCheck.org

It’s been a banner year for political whoppers — and for one teller of tall tales in particular: Donald Trump.

In the 12 years of FactCheck.org’s existence, we’ve never seen his match.

He stands out not only for the sheer number of his factually false claims, but also for his brazen refusals to admit error when proven wrong.

He is by no means the only one telling whoppers, of course. Once again this year there are plenty of politicians, in both parties, who hope voters will swallow their deceptive claims. Hillary Clinton, for one, said she was “transparent” about her use of a private email server, when in fact she wasn’t. That was one of the bogus claims she made about her unusual email arrangement while secretary of State.

But Trump topped them all when he claimed to have seen nonexistent television coverage of “thousands and thousands” of Muslims in New Jersey cheering the collapse of the World Trade Center towers on 9/11 — and then topped himself by demanding that fact-checkers apologize for exposing his claim as fantasy. And that’s only one example.

Here we’ve assembled, as we do every year at this time, a generous sampling of the most far-fetched, distorted or downright fallacious claims made during 2015.

In past years, we’ve not singled out a single claim or a single person, and have left it to readers to judge which whoppers they consider most egregious.

But this year the evidence is overwhelming and, in our judgment, conclusive. So, for the first time, we confer the title “King of Whoppers.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 10:38 AM

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-unloads-politifact-awards-144020459.html

Donald Trump unloads on PolitiFact after it awards him 'Lie of the Year'

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump slammed the fact-checking organization PolitiFact on Tuesday, calling the website "bad news."

PolitiFact, which has won a Pulitzer Prize for its 2008 election coverage, delved into Trump's various misstatements on Monday, when it awarded him "Lie of the Year" for what it called his "many campaign misstatements."

"It's the trope on Trump: He's authentic, a straight-talker, less scripted than traditional politicians," PolitiFact wrote. "That's because Donald Trump doesn't let facts slow him down. Bending the truth or being unhampered by accuracy is a strategy he has followed for years."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 10:55 AM

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/half-voters-embarrassed-trump-president-poll-finds/story?id=35895956

By RYAN STRUYK Dec 22, 2015,

Fifty percent of American voters say they would be “embarrassed” if Donald Trump were president, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released this morning.

The current Republican frontrunner, whose 28 percent support in this poll tops his competition for the GOP nomination, would make 23 percent of voters “proud,” the poll found. Other recent national polls have found Trump’s lead for the GOP nomination at more than 20 percentage points.

Six in 10 women say they would be “embarrassed” of Trump, compared to only four in 10 men. Forty-seven percent of independents say they would be “embarrassed” by Trump, but 44 percent of Republicans say they would be proud of him.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 12:16 PM

Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 07:17 PM

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/12/donald-trump-schlong-perils-of-vulgarity-213459

We’ve grown accustomed to Donald Trump’s “no filter” approach to political oratory, but his latest vulgarity was remarkable even by Trumpian standards.

Speaking in Grand Rapids, Michigan, on Monday, Trump assailed Hillary Clinton for losing the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama in 2008. “She was favored to win and she got schlonged,” he said.

To describe Clinton’s loss to Obama in the primaries, Trump chose a slangy verb derived from “schlong,” a Yiddish word for “penis,” in turn from German “schlange,” meaning “snake.” It’s a word that he seems to enjoy, as he used it in a 2011

Will Trump suffer any long-term political fallout over “schlong-gate”? His polling numbers do not seem affected even by his most outrageous statements, so his latest choice of words likely won’t matter, at least in the short term.
But over time, his vulgarisms may paint him as rhetorically unpresidential, and he could be the one getting schlonged in the polls.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 07:26 PM

It was a packed to the limit turnout in Michigan with thousands of women, who according to "some" people say aren't supposed to like him, speak for themselves.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-ladies-gaga-for-trump-at-michigan-rally/
Women defy media narrative, love Trump at packed Michigan rally

Thousands of women — the very people the mainstream media says shouldn’t like Donald Trump — turned out to see the Republican frontrunner at a packed Michigan rally in Grand Rapids Monday night.

Multiple sources tell The American Mirror over 30,000 tickets were distributed for a venue that held less than 10,000 people.

We were on hand and talked to several women — including one sporting a “Hillary for Prison” t-shirt — about why they support Trump.

“I like Donald Trump because I feel like he’s honest with the people,” one woman told us. She thought Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are essentially in the same party.

She said she hasn’t been involved in politics before. “I’m registering to vote because I want to vote for Donald Trump,” she said.

“I think African-Americans are waking up to the fact that liberal policies are not working for us,” another woman said.

Sarah Anderson, communications director for the Michigan Republican Party, told us she hasn’t seen a rally like the one in Grand Rapids.

“This is our 27th visit from a Republican presidential candidate in Michigan since February 2015, and I’ve not seen anything like this yet.”

Another woman said, “I support Donald Trump because of his honesty and his willingness to say what he thinks and not back down after he says it. I support him because I truly believe that he’s a great businessman and I think the country needs a businessman to put the country back on track.”

She was asked, “the mainstream media tells us that women aren’t supposed to like Donald Trump.

What do you say to that?”

“I love Donald Trump,” she responded. “I think women are far underrated if we should be stupid enough to vote for a woman because she’s a woman.”

“The American dream is dead, but I’m going to make it bigger and better and stronger,” Trump said during the rally, according to the Detroit Free Press. “This isn’t the real silent majority. It’s a very loud, very aggressive, noisy majority.”
Posted by: Teonan

Re: Donald Trump - 12/22/15 07:45 PM



Women defy media narrative, love Trump at packed Michigan rally


"Because brown, and everyone knows this, is my absolute favorite color. It's just such a huge and powerful color, and my Brownshirts are going to start winning and making America great again..." - Donald Trump at NYC rally on 10.15.2015

Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/23/15 06:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts

Aint THAT the truth? eek
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/23/15 06:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Teonan


Women defy media narrative, love Trump at packed Michigan rally


"Because brown, and everyone knows this, is my absolute favorite color. It's just such a huge and powerful color, and my Brownshirts are going to start winning and making America great again..." - Donald Trump at NYC rally on 10.15.2015


Well, you gotta admit... Aryans [Trump Voters] DO look good in autumn colors. eek
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/23/15 10:48 AM


Proof that Donald Trump is your Drunk Neighbor:

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/974325792660475/
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/23/15 01:19 PM

Yes, you can always count on Occupy Democrats for a bad joke based on lies that were never even fabricated except in your frustrated imagination.

Fifteen FACTS You Didn’t Know About Donald Trump
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/07/10/15-Facts-You-Didn-t-Know-About-Donald-Trump
The Donald has never smoked cigarettes, drank alcohol or done drugs.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/23/15 02:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Yes, you can always count on Occupy Democrats for a bad joke based on lies that were never even fabricated except in your frustrated imagination.

The Donald has never smoked cigarettes, drank alcohol or done drugs.

Well someone here sure-as-shootin' is, because those are actual audio excerpts uttered by The Donald, himself. No lies, nothing fabricated and definitely NO joke.

Thanks for making my day, though... there's absolutely nothing more entertaining than watching you publicly demonstrate how to stick one's foot in one's mouth.
laugh laugh laugh
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/23/15 03:14 PM

Your Brand?... grin

Trump Vodka - Try it with Kool-Aid.
A Favorite of the Far Right-Wing.*


(*unfortunately fortunately, no one else drinks the stuff. Like every other conservative fiscal endeavor, it was was an utter financial disaster).

Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/23/15 09:35 PM

http://www.wlox.com/story/30811552/trump-audience-could-reach-15k-for-biloxi-campaign-stop
Trump audience could reach 15k for Biloxi campaign stop
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/23/15 09:54 PM

http://powderedwigsociety.com/trump-buys-hitlery-site-redirecting-to-his-own/#

A couple months ago Donald Trump bought http://www.jebbush.com as a humorous prank, redirecting Jeb’s traffic to his own site. Go ahead, click on the url. You know you want to.

I reckon that worked out so well, The Donald has now purchased http://www.hillaryclinton.net, redirecting that url to his own site also.

Donald Trump has proven that he can poke his competition in the eye while entertaining us. The next nine years are going to be fun!

Go, Donald!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/24/15 06:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
The next nine years are going to be fun!
Go, Donald!
I am not real enthused about Hilliary but I am so afraid if Trump got elected he would start WWIII and end life as we know it. He is already talking about bombing the Middle East back to the stone age. frown
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/24/15 06:47 AM


"You’re A Mean One, Mr. Trump" - Make Christmas great again:

WARNING for Those with Delicate Constitutions... contains a naughty word.

https://www.facebook.com/CollegeHumor/videos/10153401409807807/
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/24/15 07:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
So giddy to make your post you neglect to consider prior posts. "And not so strangely, the Syrian refugees are banned from entering Alwaeed's country due to national security concerns. Now that's a true progressive. Everyone else should give but him."


Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/24/15 11:10 AM

Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 12/24/15 11:11 AM

[img][/img] grin
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/25/15 02:19 AM

You know it George. How long before other conservative leaders say the same thing? They must soon or see the Republican Party fall apart totally.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/george-will-highest-priority-of-the-gop-should-be-to-stop-trump/

Columnist George Will is so alarmed by Donald Trump‘s “comprehensive unpleasantness” doing well in the Republican primary that in his newest column, he just comes out and says stopping Trump needs to be conservatives’ highest priority.

Will asks at the top if there is anything remotely redeemable about this “fundamentally sad figure” who coasts on his “compulsive boasting” and need for others’ approval.

It seems like Trump’s sorta-embrace of Vladimir Putin (he snarks that maybe it was just a coincidence that dozens of Putin critics have ended up dead) was the last straw of sorts for Will. He said, ” Trump has forced conservatives to recognize their immediate priority.”

He understands how crucial it is for Republicans to win the White House and beat the Democrats, but as far as Will is concerned, “Conservatives’ highest priority now must be to prevent Trump from winning the Republican nomination in this, the GOP’s third epochal intraparty struggle in 104 years.”

He goes through the infamous Republican fight of 1912 between nominee William Howard Taft and challenger-turned-third-party-candidate Teddy Roosevelt, and how they lost to the Democratic nominee, Woodrow Wilson:

In 2016, a Trump nomination would not just mean another Democratic presidency. It would also mean the loss of what Taft and then Goldwater made possible — a conservative party as a constant presence in U.S. politics.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/25/15 12:36 PM

Yes Kyle, I’m concerned about WWIII. With Obama giving Iran a nuke and $150 billion, releasing five detainees at GITMO who have resumed war against the US in exchange for one deserter, N. Korea as a possible threat, China has made its own island in the South China sea and was ramping up investment in an array of areas including nuclear weapons, long-range missiles, submarines, aircraft carriers and cyber warfare. Obviously Obama’s apology tour to our enemies and alienating our allies has not made us safer.

George Will and many other Republicans would rather see Hillary elected than Trump. Some things we can change and some things we can’t. He may or may not win the primary and then much will depend on who he gets to run as V.P. I started the thread just to agitate the Communists and I know you’re not one of them. I never said I was voting for Trump in the primary. But I know you don't like Cruz either.

Wait for the voting to start and see what happens. Have a Merry Christmas.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/25/15 01:57 PM

Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/25/15 05:55 PM

Yes, Hillary can remember running from the helicopter with their heads down dodging sniper fire and getting schlonged.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/26/15 08:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Yes, Hillary can remember running from the helicopter with their heads down dodging sniper fire and getting schlonged.
You, along with Trump, shouldn't use words if you don't know the meaning... of course a kid born and raised in Queens like Trump would know what schlong refers to, and that when used as a transitive verb, such as someone being "schlonged," it means being the unwilling recipient of a schlong, i.e., a vulgar euphemism for being raped. A real class act, that Donald.

Now as to sniper fire, I really don't see the relevance here, unless the snipers were some of those thousands of Muslims that Trump claims he saw dancing on rooftops (makes you wonder what dance they were doing, the terrorist tango, the Muslim mash?) At least Clinton acknowledged that she had a false memory and misspoke. But The Donald, unmatched for hyperbolic rhetoric insists that what he saw was true. He's either a liar or clearly delusional.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/26/15 10:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
At least Clinton acknowledged that she had a false memory and misspoke. But The Donald, unmatched for hyperbolic rhetoric insists that what he saw was true. He's either a liar or clearly delusional.
That is a good point. I have seen many other candidates admit they misspoke and apologize for it. The Donald has apparently never made a mistake in his life. If he tells a lie, he doubles down on it. And his support grows. It is utterly amazing what the far right wing will accept in a candidate.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/26/15 11:06 AM

This could be Red Skelton's "Mean Little Kid!"

Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/26/15 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
This could be Red Skelton's "Mean Little Kid!"

ROFLMAO grin
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/26/15 05:15 PM

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=2177
New studies show Donald Trump has more support than polls indicate

http://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/p...s-donald-trump/
Conservative Icon Phyllis Schlafly Endorses Donald Trump: “He’s the Last Hope [for America]”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/26/15 05:48 PM

Hope you had a great holiday Rich. Now for a dose of reality, delusional and wishful thinking on the part of you and other Trump supporters only reiterate the fact......the minority race is becoming the majority and the catch phrase "Make America great again" is underscored by the unspoken code "Lets turn back time by placing White Conservative men at the forefront by sending the $%#@@# back to where they belong. Who are you kidding son? there will be a revolution due to one huge fact, the Good ole days are just are just an era enjoyed only by White Conservatives men and the fact a Black man ran the country and it appears that a Women is on deck lets us know that those days are long gone. Trump will fall once we go to the primaries and people realize that a crazy man similar to Hitler will destroy the future of America by attempting the same thing Hitler did.



http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2...020-census-says
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/26/15 06:01 PM

Rich, do some home work on the Constitution in regard of your hypocrisy. You speak of transgressions that Obama attempt to levy against it yet I ask you, how many laws will need to be repealed in Trump's version of making America great again? laugh
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/26/15 09:39 PM

Make America Great Again?

"There was a land of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields called the Old South. Here in this pretty world, Gallantry took its last bow. Here was the last ever to be seen of Knights and their Ladies Fair, of Master and of Slave. Look for it only in books, for it is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind..."

That was fiction. And even if it wasn't, Donald Trump sho 'nuff ain't no Rhett Butler.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/27/15 09:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
how many laws will need to be repealed in Trump's version of making America great again? laugh

The difference will be in the laws that get enforced which are not being enforced now.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/27/15 09:54 PM

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-celebrity-endorsements-2015-10
15 celebrities who love and endorse Donald Trump
Mike Tyson
Stephen Baldwin
Gary Busey
Dennis Rodman
Lou Ferrigno
Hulk Hogen
Ted Nugent
Tile Tequila
Wayne Newton
Willie Robertson
Jesse Ventura
Charlie Sheen
Ivana Trump
Mile Ditka
Terrell Owens
And I heard Tim Allen endorse him as well
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 05:49 AM

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bill-kris...ory?id=35945758

Bill Kristol: Donald Trump Mystique Would Disappear With Iowa Loss

This week we asked ABC News contributor and Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol five questions about Donald Trump, the GOP's current frontrunner for the nomination for president, and the broader 2016 race for the White House. Kristol will appear on the "This Week" roundtable Sunday.

1] You sent a tweet suggesting a new party would have to be started if Donald Trump wins the GOP nomination. Were you serious? Would you leave the Republican party if he does win the nomination?

Crowd-sourcing: Name of the new party we'll have to start if Trump wins the GOP nomination? Suggestions welcome at editor@weeklystandard.com

KRISTOL: I was semi-serious. I don't think Trump will be the nominee, so I don't expect it to be an issue. But since I don't think I could support Trump, and I'd like to have someone to vote for, if Trump were to be the nominee, I'd be open to a new party, probably for 2016 only -- but you never know.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 05:57 AM

Inside the White House, poetic justice looks a lot like Donald Trump.

Past and present aides to President Barack Obama are gloating that a Republican leadership they say defined itself by blustery opposition — and used it to win the House, then the Senate, and stand in the White House’s way at every turn — is getting devoured by a candidate personifying the anger agenda.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/obama-trump-republicans-217144#ixzz3vcDTWWVh

“It’s not so much a reaction to Obama,” said one person familiar with the president’s thinking about the Trump phenomenon. “It’s more of a reaction to their strategy that, ‘We’re just going to be antithetical to everything [Obama] stands for.’”

According to people in the White House, Obama doesn’t talk about Trump much. When he does, it’s with a combination of amusement and disgust at the rhetoric, occasionally mentioning his amazement at GOP leaders’ inability to understand Trump’s supporters and the long-term damage the president thinks Trump is doing to the party with the groups of voters who will decide future elections.

Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 07:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Formermac
how many laws will need to be repealed in Trump's version of making America great again? laugh

The difference will be in the laws that get enforced which are not being enforced now.


Focus Rich,Constitutional laws such as equal rights for minorities and women aren't being enforced now, so you're saying that Trump will do what? Don't proceed on that lie.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 08:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-celebrity-endorsements-2015-10
15 celebrities who love and endorse Donald Trump
Mike Tyson
Stephen Baldwin
Gary Busey
Dennis Rodman
Lou Ferrigno
Hulk Hogen
Ted Nugent
Tile Tequila
Wayne Newton
Willie Robertson
Jesse Ventura
Charlie Sheen
Ivana Trump
Mile Ditka
Terrell Owens
And I heard Tim Allen endorse him as well


Did a background on most of them, quite the upstanding bunch they are.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 10:57 AM

You really didn't have to go past Mike Tyson to get an idea of whose support most candidates would like to distance themselves from... but not the Donald.... he fits right in
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 11:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-celebrity-endorsements-2015-10
15 celebrities who love and endorse Donald Trump
Mike Tyson
Stephen Baldwin
Gary Busey
Dennis Rodman
Lou Ferrigno
Hulk Hogen
Ted Nugent
Tile Tequila
Wayne Newton
Willie Robertson
Jesse Ventura
Charlie Sheen
Ivana Trump
Mile Ditka
Terrell Owens
And I heard Tim Allen endorse him as well
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/tila-tequila-sparks-concerns-after-6701798

Tila Tequila has sparked concerns after posting a picture of her baby as HITLER in bizarre rant.

The troubled reality personality - who was removed from Celebrity Big Brother after her previous social media posts about Nazism and the holocaust came to light - has indulged in a bizarre series of a rants about the topics again.

This time Tila celebrated her birthday by claiming to be Jesus, before posting the disturbing image of her daughter dressed up as the Nazi leader.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 11:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-celebrity-endorsements-2015-10
15 celebrities who love and endorse Donald Trump
Mike Tyson
Stephen Baldwin
Gary Busey
Dennis Rodman
Lou Ferrigno
Hulk Hogen
Ted Nugent
Tile Tequila
Wayne Newton
Willie Robertson
Jesse Ventura
Charlie Sheen
Ivana Trump
Mile Ditka
Terrell Owens
And I heard Tim Allen endorse him as well
Stephen Baldwin says faith cost him roles; compares himself and Alec to Cain and Abel
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 11:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-celebrity-endorsements-2015-10
15 celebrities who love and endorse Donald Trump
Mike Tyson
Stephen Baldwin
Gary Busey
Dennis Rodman
Lou Ferrigno
Hulk Hogen
Ted Nugent
Tile Tequila
Wayne Newton
Willie Robertson
Jesse Ventura
Charlie Sheen
Ivana Trump
Mile Ditka
Terrell Owens
And I heard Tim Allen endorse him as well
Family life isn't always perfect— not even for the Duck Dynasty clan! Korie Robertson, 42, and husband Willie, 43, open up about marriage and parenting problems in her new book, Strong and Kind.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 11:57 AM

http://trumpstump2016.com/2015/11/30/thedavid/herman-cain-endorses-donald-trump-for-president/
Herman Cain endorses Trump for President
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 11:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-celebrity-endorsements-2015-10
15 celebrities who love and endorse Donald Trump
Mike Tyson
Stephen Baldwin
Gary Busey
Dennis Rodman
Lou Ferrigno
Hulk Hogen
Ted Nugent
Tile Tequila
Wayne Newton
Willie Robertson
Jesse Ventura
Charlie Sheen
Ivana Trump
Mile Ditka
Terrell Owens
And I heard Tim Allen endorse him as well
I'm not finished': Gary Busey refuses to end rambling speech after being eliminated from DWTS...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/art...l#ixzz3vdg1iUTy
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 12:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Another great intellect! That figures. Most of Trump's "solutions" are about as workable as the 9-9-9 plan grin
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 12:22 PM

http://www.unionleader.com/Joseph-W-McQuaid-Trump-campaign-insults-NH-voters-intelligence

New Hampshire Union Leader

Joseph W. McQuaid: Trump campaign insults NH voters' intelligence

By JOSEPH W. McQUAID
Publisher

Donald Trump is due in New Hampshire this evening. He will attract a large crowd. The crowds, the media coverage, and the polls have led him and some pundits to believe that he will win the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.

That is an insult to the intelligence of Republican voters. Beginning right here in New Hampshire on Feb. 9, a great majority of them will disabuse him of that notion.

Much of the news media are lavishly covering Trump, not just because he’s good for ratings, but because he’s good for Hillary Clinton. They very much want Trump to be the Republican nominee so that Ms. Hillary can move back into the White House.

Trump can certainly be an entertaining character. He toys with TV journalists and dismisses critics with name-calling that drives the Politically Correct crowd insane. But his public descent into bathroom humor and verbal bullying has been painful, and educational, to watch.

According to Trump: John McCain accepted years of torture by the North Vietnamese but is not Trump’s type of “war hero.” Not that Trump ever served in the military. Carly Fiorina, meanwhile, doesn’t have the “face” Trump would want in the White House; and a reporter who questions a Trump falsehood is to be mimicked and mocked for his physical disability.

Trump has shown himself to be a crude blowhard with no clear political philosophy and no deeper understanding of the important and serious role of President of the United States than one of the goons he lets rough up protesters in his crowds.

He reminds us of the grownup bully “Biff” in the “Back to the Future” movie series. Lo and behold, the screenwriter says that he based Biff on Trump. On Feb. 9, we trust New Hampshire Republicans will send “Biff Trump” back to somewhere — anywhere but on the road to the most important elective office in the United States at a most crucial time for this nation.
- See more at: http://www.unionleader.com/Joseph-W-McQu...h.ee6mkQQB.dpuf
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 04:06 PM

Apparently it takes little to impress Rich,thus his support of the least qualified candidate on either side of any political arena
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 07:54 PM

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130305080736AARsIdb.

The similarities between Hitler and Trump are uncanny.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/28/15 09:03 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pos...trumps-support/
Democrats should fear the depths of Donald Trump’s support
By Jonathan Capehart December 21

A word of caution to those Democrats, particularly those supporting Hillary Clinton, openly rooting for Donald Trump to win the Republican presidential nomination. Yes, his campaign has been six months of ugly, gasp-worthy rhetoric that should make the Republican Party a no-go zone for a majority of the American electorate on Election Day 2016. But folks like it. And that is reason to worry.

What if Michael Smerconish was right? What if Trump’s numbers are really higher than the polls show because folks are lying to pollsters? What if a Trump vs. Clinton race isn’t a slam dunk for the latter as everyone thinks? Thanks to a study conducted by Kyle Dropp, co-founder and executive director of polling and data science at Morning Consult, we have the frightening answer. Smerconish WAS right!

Dropp interviewed 2,397 registered Republicans and GOP-leaning independents. All the participants started taking part in the survey online. Then things got interesting. While a third of them did the entire survey online, one third answered questions asked by a live person on the phone and the remaining third finished the poll with an automated voice. The result?

“The study finds that Trump performs about six percentage points better online [38 percent] than via live telephone interviewing [32 percent],” writes Dropp, “and that his advantage online is driven by adults with higher levels of education.” That means Trump’s increased support is coming from better educated and wealthier people who appear to be embarrassed to have another living soul know they support Trump. Dropp explains that this is due “in part to ‘social desirability bias,’ in which respondents answer questions in a manner they believe will be viewed favorably by others.”

In other words, people are more inclined not to tell the truth to a pollster if they believe it will make them look bad. This has become known as the Bradley Effect. Tom Bradley was the African American mayor of Los Angeles who ran for governor of California in 1982. He was leading in the polls right up to Election Day, but lost narrowly once actual ballots were counted. Then, folks didn’t want to be viewed as racist. Now, folks appear to not want to be viewed as supporting a racist.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/29/15 11:33 AM

So we can safely conclude that your denial in Seneca County posts were basically all lies. Last year, you introduced your yourself as an opponent to Native American businesses and the question was presented to you as to why focus primarily on them when others are circumventing property taxes as well. Now we're getting a tale telling position (yours) of one hating non Whites and publicly defends a obvious racist (Trump)as well as an misogynist, I'm glad that "you've finally come out of the closet" and reveal your true self and nature.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/29/15 02:16 PM

You can’t conclude anything and I’ve never lied. I’ve also posted more than once that my issues are not with taxes but with Federal Indian Policy and tribes, not Indians. For it is tribes which use sovereign immunity in being culpable for their own actions and inactions. My involvement started in 1998 and I registered here in Jan. 03. But that’s for a different thread.

I started this thread to agitate people like you by merely posting polls and articles and stated more than once that I am not voting for Trump in the Primary. So your opinions and misguided assumptions are just that and nothing more. But my purpose for the thread seems to be working.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/29/15 03:25 PM

For entertainment value,working very well. In terms of agitating, you'll need something with an intelligent subject line such as Cruz or Rubio. Once again,the fact that Trump has support,speaks volume to the presence of racism and hatred,which in reality makes you a race war agitator...hey! you have told us that much already.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/29/15 05:24 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...y-well-win.html
Time to face facts: Donald Trump could very well win
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/29/15 05:53 PM

http://politistick.com/comedian-jerry-le...es-where-to-go/
Comedian Jerry Lewis Excoriates Obama’s Handling of ISIS; Tells ‘Refugees’ Where to Go!
DECEMBER 29, 2015

Legendary comedian Jerry Lewis may have played a lovable and hilarious dunce in some of his movies like the original “Nutty Professor,” but the longtime fundraiser to stop the disease of muscular dystrophy is no dummy in real life.

In an interview last week with Raymond Arroyo on World Over, Jerry Lewis blasted Obama for not having the will to stop ISIS. Lewis told Arroyo that we should be coordinating with other NATO members to “wipe them out.”

“I’m wondering where are all of our NATO allies. Why don’t I have Germany and Italy and Great Britain; why do I [not] have all of them, including Spain, doing something? Get all of your military together, bring that military to our military to wipe them out,” Lewis said.

Lewis said that ISIS is basically begging to be stopped, but all we’re doing is watching them proceed with their acts of terror around the world.

When asked about the political phenomenon of the rise of Donald Trump, Lewis told Arroyo that he thought he was “great” because he’s a “showman,” and that we really haven’t had one of those in the White House.

When Arroyo tried to make a comparison between Trump and the late, great conservative President Ronald Reagan, who was an actor before entering politics as the Governor of California, Lewis rejected the comparison.

“Well, that’s different. You can’t make a comparison with Ronald Reagan. Because I could do three hours on him with just praise — he was so good.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/29/15 06:43 PM

Front page of FL times:

I am a Muslim

Take a moment to reflect onyour initial thoughts after reading the headline on thisstory and the man in the photo that
accompanies it. Whether it’s the ongoing fight against ISIS in the Middle East or recent incidents in San Bernardino, Calif.,
and Paris, Muslims have become a hot-button topic worldwide.

In the United States, the top polling Republican candidate for president has gained a double-digit lead based on sometimes hateful, sexist and bigoted rhetoric. Donald Trump continues to generate large support for his campaign despite often using fear mongering as a rallying message. If elected, he has outlined a plan to ban Muslims from entering the United States, a move that would be unconstitutional.

PolitiFact.com, the 2009 Pulitzer Prize winners, fact-checks statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups. Of the 75 Trump statements the group has fact-checked, just one of every four was found to be true. Do people truly believe what he says? Or do the polling trends reflect a general culture of bigotry that is surfacing as part of the campaiging procccess? It ia hard to say which is more accurate.

S. Rafiq Ahmad, 69, is the man pictured in the photograph. He hopes to assist readers in providing a clearer picture of the Muslim world. Originally from Pakistan, Ahmad has lived in the United States since 1976. That’s when President Nixon invited pharmacists from developing countries such as Pakistan, India
and South Korea to fill a shortage in the profession here.

Ahmad is grateful for the opportunity that has provided him with more education, peace of mind and freedom of religion. He has quietly raised a family that includes three children in Waterloo where he owns the Valley Pharmacy on Main Street.

In all his years here, he said, he’s had nothing but great experiences with locals, with nary a trace of bigotry aimed at him.


Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/29/15 06:52 PM

http://prntly.com/blog/?p=3814
SHOCK NYE POLL: 1 in 5 Democrats back Trump over Clinton, landslide awaits

A shocking new poll released today (12.28.15) shows that Donald Trump would defeat Clinton in a remarkable landslide election.

Clinton captures a paltry 37%. Why are her numbers so low? It appears, according to the poll, that the businessman and real estate tycoon would gather nearly 20% of the Democratic vote. Meanwhile, Clinton would get only 7% of the GOP voting base.

This is significant because Clinton’s unpopularity in her own party signifies that voters would switch their party allegience and vote in Trump as President.

From Rassmussen:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...ill_a_dead_heat
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According to the same survey, a significant percentage of Americans would be disappointed to see the billionaire businessman and former secretary of state go toe-to-toe in a general election — 22 percent of respondents said they would vote for a third candidate in a Clinton vs. Trump matchup and 5 percent remain undecided. While 75 percent of self-identified Democratic voters indicated they would upport Clinton as the nominee, fewer Republicans said they would back Trump.

BREAKING: Pataki drops out of the GOP race, Jeb now officially the lowest candidate

SHOCK POLL: 45% of blacks back Trump, 40% latinos, Bad news for Cruz/Clinton
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/29/15 06:54 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/polit...l-bid/78040880/


Well the clown van is starting to have room for a dozen. laugh
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 12/29/15 07:14 PM



BIFF/Trump
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

You're a Fool If You're Supporting Trump - 12/30/15 12:13 PM

"You're a Fool If You're Supporting Trump," opines Kurt Schlichter, a conservative trial lawyer and retired US Army infantry colonel. And he doesn't hold back in his assessment of the Donald. Take, for example, one of his observations about the GOP debates: "there were plenty of other folks up on those stages who were better than Trump. There were plenty of people in the audience better than Trump. They were wearing shoes that would make better presidents than Trump."

Or this: "Maybe reality TV is great preparation for holding the lives of two million American warriors in the palm of your hands. But you know, The Donald is all fun and games in theory, but in reality those young people who I led and who defend us all need a real commander-in-chief. Could you live with yourself giving them a belligerent clown instead?

Hugh Hewitt asked Trump about the nuclear triad, and it was agonizingly clear this charlatan had no idea what Hewitt was talking about. Is it too much to ask that the guy with the finger on The Button know what the hell happens if he pushes it?"

Schlichter is clearly not fan of Obama either, saying that "It would take a real achiever to diminish the office of the presidency even more than Obama has, but Trump is up to the job... Trump's focusing on Megyn Kelly for daring to ask him hard questions and not treating him with the fawning deference of the entourage of slobbering sycophants that normally surrounds him... I first voted for Ronald Reagan and I'd like a president with a little dignity again, one who talks about shining cities on the hill, not one who makes skeevy menstruation cracks. "

Read the whole delightful piece HERE
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 12/30/15 01:37 PM

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=2236
Time to face facts: He could very well win

As 2015 comes to a close, Matt K Lewis says it is now time to acknowledge that Donald Trump is not going anywhere. From telegraph.co.uk:

For establishment Republicans still desperately clinging to hope for a New Year’s miracle in the form of a Trump collapse, there seems to be but two remaining theories for how that could happen: The first theory holds that the polls are skewed—that Trump’s ostensible supporters (many of whom have no past history of voting in primaries) won’t actually show up when it comes time to caucus. Unfortunately, another theory that says we are actually underestimating
Trump’s level of support cancels this out. A new study argues that Trump supporters who have a college degree are embarrassed to admit to a live pollster over the phone that they actually plan to vote for him. The second theory says that Trump’s “brand” is largely based on him being a winner. This perception causes people to assume he can pull off miracles once he's in the White House. But this premise would be undercut if Ted Cruz, as is expected, goes on to win the first contest in Iowa. Once this façade of inevitability and invincibility is removed, Does Trump collapse? Nobody knows. But it is worth noting that at this point in 2004, we were all still expecting insurgent Howard Dean to be the Democratic nominee. A surprise John Kerry victory in Iowa changed everything.

An admission: As you can probably tell, one has to work pretty hard to invent theories, rationales, and scenarios whereby Donald Trump doesn’t win the Republican nomination. The truth is that he very well could be the Republican nominee. And what is more, I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion that Hillary Clinton would destroy him in the general election, either.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 12/30/15 04:07 PM

You really think he could win the general election? Just think of all the recordings of "God Bless America" that will have to be remastered as "God Help America!"
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/30/15 07:55 PM

In Trumps style, someone will get fired! LOL

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/trump-new-hampshire-chairs-217225

Some of Donald Trump’s New Hampshire town chairs might not actually be voting for him.

Last week, the Trump campaign released a list of more than 200 town chairs throughout the state. There was only one problem: Some people didn’t know they were on the list, according to a report by the Valley News, based just across the border in Vermont. At least three people out of the 15 in New Hampshire’s Upper Valley Region had been put on the list without their knowledge, the paper reported.

One chair — who said she plans to vote for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush — said the Trump campaign spoke with her and she told them she “kind of liked” the billionaire. She was told she was signed up to receive some campaign material, but now she’s listed as a chair.

The Trump campaign is saying that’s not how it happened. Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for Trump, expressed confusion over the report when asked by POLITICO because, she said, “everyone on the list we made public submitted their support and acceptance of this voluntary leadership position in writing.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/trump-new-hampshire-chairs-217225#ixzz3vrJOeXSB
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 12/30/15 08:06 PM

This is quite long but I have to admit I found it thought-provoking.

http://claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-reason-im-anti-anti-trump/

The Reason I’m Anti-Anti-Trump

By: William Voegeli
December 28, 2015
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Hillary was Right After All - 01/02/16 12:15 PM

The Donald recently said he would demand an apology from Hillary Clinton regarding her statement that ISIS is using videos of Trump as a recruitment tool. The fact checkers couldn't find anything that supported her claim at the time. But it turns out that her claim is closer to the truth than Trumpo will admit. The Donald is indeed featured in a jihadist propaganda video released by the Somali-based al-Qaeda affiliate al-Shabab.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/02/16 10:00 PM

I don’t doubt that the film exists or that it is being played in Middle Eastern countries. With Middle Eastern countries donating between $18 to $50 Million to the Clinton Foundation and receiving favors such as arms deals
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article24782695.html
and Hillary’s Deputy Chief of Staff at the State Department Huma Mahmood Abedin a long-time aide to Hillary Clinton, and traveling chief of staff and served as assistant for Clinton during Clinton's campaign for the Democratic nomination in the 2008 presidential election and campaign Vice-Chair in this election.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/6/frank-gaffney-huma-abedins-private-emails-muslim-b/
One other State Department official evidently violated this policy: Mrs. Clinton‘s deputy chief of staff, Huma Abedin.
Her emails are of particular interest insofar as Ms. Abedin has extensive ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. That’s the Islamist organization whose self-declared mission is “destroying Western civilization from within.”

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/23/okeefe...refugees-video/
While the Obama administration plans to accept 10,000 Syrian refugees next year, Clinton has said that the U.S. should accept 65,000 Syrian refugees.

A new undercover video released by James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas shows Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign vice chair, Huma Abedin, assuring an undercover reporter that the Democratic presidential candidate is committed to allowing Syrian refugees to settle in the U.S. and that Republican opposition to the plan is “really scary.”

Hillary’s unscrupulous past and present connections would lead one to speculate if she didn’t have the video made herself.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/03/16 08:15 AM

Rich, you'd probably see things more clearly if you stepped out of that hall of mirrors sponsored by right wing media. Clinton had the video made herself? Okaaaaayyyy... just how did she get Trump to read his lines about banning Muslims, Mexican rapists, etc. whistle
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/03/16 11:32 AM

Yes Trump did say those things and they resonate with a great many voters. The crux of the issue is border security which includes national security and the considerable number of crimes being committed by illegal aliens and acts of terror by Muslims. So in addition to securing the border it is only wise to restrict alleged refugees to those which can be properly vetted and monitor cores of hate which preach terrorism. Securing the border will cut down on crime more so than gun control.

Huma is her advisor and she has more than one agenda in her quest to get Hillary elected. They both hate Trump and Huma’s work with the Muslim World League, which has spawned terrorist activities such as the IIRO throughout the world, leaves more questions than answers.

The video could have been made by anyone and all media needs to be absorbed with caution. Both wings have extremes. But what either reports present facts to be considered which are not all speculation.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/03/16 12:07 PM

If "it is only wise to restrict alleged refugees to those which can be properly vetted and monitor cores of hate which preach terrorism," doesn't it follow that access to firearms should be restricted to those who can be properly vetted,through universal background checks and registration of all firearms? How about restricting access to firearms among our own home grown non-Muslim groups as well, i.e., those which preach hate and carry out terrorist acts?
Posted by: secure white guy

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/03/16 01:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
If "it is only wise to restrict alleged refugees to those which can be properly vetted and monitor cores of hate which preach terrorism," doesn't it follow that access to firearms should be restricted to those who can be properly vetted,through universal background checks and registration of all firearms? How about restricting access to firearms among our own home grown non-Muslim groups as well, i.e., those which preach hate and carry out terrorist acts?


Absolutely. Meanwhile, social media is having a field day with the contradictions...


Response to Oregon Militia Standoff Reveals Stark Double Standards

usuncut.com
Tom Cahill | January 3, 2016


If you depend on the corporate media for your news, you may not have heard that 150 gun-toting militia are claiming U.S. government property for themselves. Social media users observing the media’s response to the armed takeover of a federal building by right-wing militia over the weekend are pointing out obvious double standards in how the media is treating white, right-wing militia members compared to black protesters.

Men with REAL weapons are being negotiated with, while #TamirRice, a young boy with a fake gun was shot right away…? #OregonUnderAttack
— Floyd (@FloydXXI) January 3, 2016

Hey @ABC I fixed that typo for you #OregonStandoff #OregonUnderAttack pic.twitter.com/9gcTDUCVjh
— TariqTouré (@TariqToure) January 3, 2016

Did I miss the call for the national guard in Oregon? I recall them in Ferguson and Baltimore. #OregonUnderAttack
— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) January 3, 2016

We send national guards & military to #Ferguson for protesters & watch on every network but white militia take over a federal building, nah.
— Linda Sarsour (@lsarsour) January 3, 2016

150 domestic terrorists take over a fed building. Can only assume there's wall-to-wall cable news coverage, right? Oh. #OregonUnderAttack
— Sahand (@Sahand_1) January 3, 2016

Since taking over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge building southeast of Burns, Oregon, militia members led by Ammon Bundy, son of notorious Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, have made their intent clear to turn the building into a refuge for so-called “patriots” who wish to ignore federal government laws and regulations.

The occupation began after a protest in Burns against the re-sentencing of Dwight and Steven Hammond, who are facing 5 years in prison over setting fire to over 100 acres of federal property between 2001 and 2006. The armed occupiers have threatened to fire upon law enforcement officers and federal officials who attempt to re-take the building, saying they aren’t afraid to die for their cause.

The occupation has, at the time of this writing, gone largely unnoticed by the major media networks. While the burning of a CVS in predominantly-black Baltimore during the Freddie Gray protests received wall-to-wall coverage on almost all of the networks, and while nearly every media outlet in the country covered the burning of the QuikTrip store in Ferguson that was burned following the non-indictment of Darren Wilson for killing Mike Brown, the lack of coverage of an armed, white, right-wing mob forcefully taking over federal property seems like an afterthought to most of the corporate-owned TV networks.

Investigative reporter Jeremy Scahill pointed out the obvious double-standard on Twitter. Other journalists took part, along with activists pointing out the careful language the media uses to differentiate between black and white people with guns.

Not a single cable network is covering this Oregon militia situation
— jeremy scahill (@jeremyscahill) January 3, 2016

How @AP covers the armed takeover of a federal building by white militia members pic.twitter.com/4fxl5QxTZ4
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) January 3, 2016

So what qualifies you as a "militia"? Cause last time I checked 150 men with semi automatic weapons in my hood is a gang #OregonUnderAttack
— Glenda TheGoodBitch (@jstcallmesweet) January 3, 2016

I demand to see 24 hour/7 day coverage of #OregonUnderAttack on @CNN. Wolf Blitzer needs to use the word "thugs" & "terrorists" repeatedly
— D.B.Anderson (@DBAnderson1) January 3, 2016

White men with guns stealing land? Never heard of such a thing. #OregonUnderAttack pic.twitter.com/3tP06nkmYA
— Indigenous Threat (@remembermarias) January 3, 2016

The militia members have called on other “patriots” to join the occupation, and to bring weapons.


Tom Cahill is a writer for US Uncut based in the Pacific Northwest. He specializes in coverage of political, economic, and environmental news. You can contact Tom via email at tom.v.cahill@gmail.com.


Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/03/16 05:25 PM

This stuff about the Oregon Militia standoff really belongs in a separate thread. But since it's been posted here on the Donald Trump thread, I wonder how a President Trump (shudder) would respond to an armed domestic terrorist group taking over a Federal property? He has said that the way to deal with Muslim terrorists is to kill their families since they value them more than themselves. So would he do the same here?
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/04/16 04:04 PM

Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/05/16 08:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
If "it is only wise to restrict alleged refugees to those which can be properly vetted and monitor cores of hate which preach terrorism," doesn't it follow that access to firearms should be restricted to those who can be properly vetted,through universal background checks and registration of all firearms? How about restricting access to firearms among our own home grown non-Muslim groups as well, i.e., those which preach hate and carry out terrorist acts?
No, the federal government was formed by the states, not the other way around. Such decisions should be left up to the states. The feds already monitor hate groups under the Patriot Act. There you go again suggesting registration of all firearms. And there are already two threads on guns.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/05/16 09:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
This stuff about the Oregon Militia standoff really belongs in a separate thread. But since it's been posted here on the Donald Trump thread, I wonder how a President Trump (shudder) would respond to an armed domestic terrorist group taking over a Federal property? He has said that the way to deal with Muslim terrorists is to kill their families since they value them more than themselves. So would he do the same here?
The alleged federal property is the Hammond Ranch itself which the feds have been trying to take for years, supposedly for the uranium deposits
With Hillary making a deal with Russia for 51% of Uranium in exchange for $250 million donation to the Clinton Foundation, this becomes more than meets the eye.
“But it was the 2010 deal, giving the Russians a controlling 51 percent stake, that set off alarm bells. Four members of the House of Representatives signed a letter expressing concern. Two more began pushing legislation to kill the deal.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cas...mpany.html?_r=0

We know what Hillary would do because she was the one who called for the attack on Waco. http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=233
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/05/16 11:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
If "it is only wise to restrict alleged refugees to those which can be properly vetted and monitor cores of hate which preach terrorism," doesn't it follow that access to firearms should be restricted to those who can be properly vetted,through universal background checks and registration of all firearms? How about restricting access to firearms among our own home grown non-Muslim groups as well, i.e., those which preach hate and carry out terrorist acts?
No, the federal government was formed by the states, not the other way around. Such decisions should be left up to the states. The feds already monitor hate groups under the Patriot Act. There you go again suggesting registration of all firearms. And there are already two threads on guns.

Born without the "nuanced analogy" gene, were you? crazy
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/05/16 11:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
This stuff about the Oregon Militia standoff really belongs in a separate thread. But since it's been posted here on the Donald Trump thread, I wonder how a President Trump (shudder) would respond to an armed domestic terrorist group taking over a Federal property? He has said that the way to deal with Muslim terrorists is to kill their families since they value them more than themselves. So would he do the same here?
The alleged federal property is the Hammond Ranch itself which the feds have been trying to take for years, supposedly for the uranium deposits
With Hillary making a deal with Russia for 51% of Uranium in exchange for $250 million donation to the Clinton Foundation, this becomes more than meets the eye.
“But it was the 2010 deal, giving the Russians a controlling 51 percent stake, that set off alarm bells. Four members of the House of Representatives signed a letter expressing concern. Two more began pushing legislation to kill the deal.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cas...mpany.html?_r=0

We know what Hillary would do because she was the one who called for the attack on Waco. http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=233

I believe that what you really meant was "Four members of the House of Representatives" mischaracterizing events by flinging poop at Clinton, in the desperate, flailing hope of finding a "workable" distortion of facts that actually sticks... for once (wholly unsubstantiated suggestions of quid pro quo, notwithstanding).

And... since Republicans are beyond any and all debate, most responsible for the failure to pass meaningful political finance reform, you and other lockstep, rank-and-file righties, have not a single leg to stand on when it comes to that silly little argument.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/05/16 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
This stuff about the Oregon Militia standoff really belongs in a separate thread. But since it's been posted here on the Donald Trump thread, I wonder how a President Trump (shudder) would respond to an armed domestic terrorist group taking over a Federal property? He has said that the way to deal with Muslim terrorists is to kill their families since they value them more than themselves. So would he do the same here?
The alleged federal property is the Hammond Ranch itself which the feds have been trying to take for years, supposedly for the uranium deposits
With Hillary making a deal with Russia for 51% of Uranium in exchange for $250 million donation to the Clinton Foundation, this becomes more than meets the eye.
“But it was the 2010 deal, giving the Russians a controlling 51 percent stake, that set off alarm bells. Four members of the House of Representatives signed a letter expressing concern. Two more began pushing legislation to kill the deal.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cas...mpany.html?_r=0

We know what Hillary would do because she was the one who called for the attack on Waco. http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=233

"The alleged federal property is the Hammond Ranch itself which the feds have been trying to take for years, supposedly for the uranium deposits." Do you just make this crap up or do you believe everything some right wing blogger vomits out to the internet? The property that the "militia" is occupying has been Federal property for more than 100 years, and its designation as a wildlife refuge and bird sanctuary had absolutely nothing to do with uranium. Just because the Hammonds may have been taking advantage of the public space for their ranching operation doesn't make it theirs.

There are lots of allegations but not one shred of actual evidence that the Clinton Foundation has in any way influenced official US policy.

"Hillary... was the one who called for the attack on Waco."
And we know this according to totally unbiased opinion of Linda Tripp. laugh laugh laugh Sorry, Rich. I could get past that portion of the "truthseeker" article without laughing.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/06/16 03:16 PM

Oh yes, I’m sure Putin gave $250 million to the Clinton Foundation because he just loves Hillary. But you know he really loves the Donald better.

And several Middle Eastern countries received arms deals after giving millions to the Clinton Foundation, but that was just because they loved her.

Waco? Ah yes, Vincent Foster who may have given testimony strangely committed suicide three months later and dumped his own body in a park.

Or Paul Wilcher, who delivered an extensive affidavit with eye-witness testimony on the Waco events to Janet Reno on May 21st, 1993 was found dead 31 days later.

There are dozens of dead bodies close to the Clintons, 24 dead bodyguards, 9 dead fund raisers, 17 dead witnesses, 3 dead women who had affairs with Bill and more. We’re safe, we definitely don’t know what these people knew. But the fact they are dead is not an allegation.

But we’re drifting from the Trump thread. I see you have a new thread started in Headline News forum. Good move.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/06/16 04:22 PM

Yes... all those dead bodies piling up... (cue theme music from the Twilight Zone) Seriously, it's amazing that these conspiracy theories have never turned up any actual evidence. Are the Clintons also responsible for the disappearance of the nurse who planted Obama's birth certificate in the Hawaiian hospital records, as part of the plot to get Obama elected and Hillary appointed as Secretary of State so as to add to her resume for President? Hmmmmmmm....
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/06/16 04:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Oh yes, I’m sure Putin gave $250 million to the Clinton Foundation because he just loves Hillary. But you know he really loves the Donald better.

And several Middle Eastern countries received arms deals after giving millions to the Clinton Foundation, but that was just because they loved her.

Waco? Ah yes, Vincent Foster who may have given testimony strangely committed suicide three months later and dumped his own body in a park.

Or Paul Wilcher, who delivered an extensive affidavit with eye-witness testimony on the Waco events to Janet Reno on May 21st, 1993 was found dead 31 days later.

There are dozens of dead bodies close to the Clintons, 24 dead bodyguards, 9 dead fund raisers, 17 dead witnesses, 3 dead women who had affairs with Bill and more. We’re safe, we definitely don’t know what these people knew. But the fact they are dead is not an allegation.

But we’re drifting from the Trump thread. I see you have a new thread started in Headline News forum. Good move.

No, YOU are.

You're in desperate need of educating yourself on the nature, mission and funding of the Clinton Foundation and even more importantly, the clear distinct difference between "Hillary Clinton" and "The Clinton Foundation".

As far as your strained conspiracy theories and allegations, let's remind ourselves of the hundreds of thousands of direct deaths that followed Republican policies during the 2000s.

At least they have the advantage of being remotely connected to the thread topic. crazy
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/06/16 07:19 PM

http://prntly.com/blog/?p=3965
Cruz team steals Trump audience photos to bolster his “surge” as he fades

Ted Cruz has been caught stealing Donald Trump’s campaign rally photos to bolster his campaign, which tends to attract minor crowds inside of Pizza halls in Iowa.

Sources reported to Prntly that Cruz has been stealing these photos to appear as though he has a “groundswell,” when in reality Mr. Cruz has few fans attending his speeches.

“I can’t imagine sitting through a Ted Cruz rally,” said Carole Westman of Colorado City Iowa, “He’s so boring, he’s worse than Jeb.”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/08/16 05:46 AM

Crowd control.


http://news.yahoo.com/scores-line-trump-vermont-event-sanders-hometown-192840362--election.html
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Hillary was Right After All - 01/08/16 06:55 AM

Make America Great Again

Subliminal phrase for returning America to the days of pre civil rights when non Whites had no say or recourse for unfair and harsh treatment. Trump seldom mention issues in regard to job creation,wage increase,education,fair housing,banking regulation,drug and substance abuse & health care. Last I knew, these issues were the mainstream concerns for sound minded voters, not one of disenfranchising the poor & minority.


http://www.salon.com/2016/01/06/maddow_d...george_wallace/
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/09/16 04:22 PM

The Donald
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIWkifAMiLI
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/09/16 04:47 PM

Catchy song, but it doesn't change the fact that "The Donald" has yet to provide any specifics about what he's going to do and how he's going to accomplish the ridiculous promises he's made like rounding up and deporting 11,000,000 people deemed to be "illegal," force a foreign government to pay for a multi-billion dollar public works project, "bomb the sh%%" out of ISIS when it's an amorphous entity that has no boundaries or borders, order all school zones in the US to allow guns on campus, etc. His boast about building a military so strong that "no one will dare mess with us" is a delusional fantasy. Does he not realize that Al Qaeda was not deterred by our military power even though we were (and still are) the most powerful military force on the planet. Trump remains nothing but a BS artist who has tapped into and is exploiting fear.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Another Role Model Trump - 01/10/16 01:32 PM

Trump, Trump, Trump... Seems he has a new role model. After praising Vladimir Putin's governing style, Trump declares that he's also a fan of Kim Jong Un, and says the North Korean dictator "deserves credit" for wiping out his rivals, even executing his own uncle who was described as "despicable human scum," similar to the language used by Trump in referring to media reporters.

Do we really want this kind of government, where dissent is not allowed, where a would be supreme leader encourages supporters to "rough up" protesters?
Posted by: Festus

Re: Another Role Model Trump - 01/11/16 07:08 AM

You're a Mean One Mr. Trump
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 01/11/16 09:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://prntly.com/blog/?p=3814
SHOCK NYE POLL: 1 in 5 Democrats back Trump over Clinton, landslide awaits

A shocking new poll released today (12.28.15) shows that Donald Trump would defeat Clinton in a remarkable landslide election.

Clinton captures a paltry 37%. Why are her numbers so low? It appears, according to the poll, that the businessman and real estate tycoon would gather nearly 20% of the Democratic vote. Meanwhile, Clinton would get only 7% of the GOP voting base.

This is significant because Clinton’s unpopularity in her own party signifies that voters would switch their party allegience and vote in Trump as President.

From Rassmussen:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...ill_a_dead_heat
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According to the same survey, a significant percentage of Americans would be disappointed to see the billionaire businessman and former secretary of state go toe-to-toe in a general election — 22 percent of respondents said they would vote for a third candidate in a Clinton vs. Trump matchup and 5 percent remain undecided. While 75 percent of self-identified Democratic voters indicated they would upport Clinton as the nominee, fewer Republicans said they would back Trump.

BREAKING: Pataki drops out of the GOP race, Jeb now officially the lowest candidate

SHOCK POLL: 45% of blacks back Trump, 40% latinos, Bad news for Cruz/Clinton

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
I know polls don’t mean squat and are only done to sell news on dead news days.

A Man of Conviction... many contradictory ones, in fact. whistle
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/12/16 12:01 PM

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=2870
This Donald Trump Face the Nation Interview Is Highest Rated In 15 Years

4.6 million people watched
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 01/12/16 12:23 PM

Lets say that his interview garnered 10 million viewers, that confirms the notion held by most women,Blacks,Hispanic and Native Americans,we are in an era were a definite resurgence of vitriol and hatred has hit our nation like no other since the civil rights day. A nation supposedly built on unity and working together, thanks for reiterating that one truth many post over Rich,you are truly a left over from those days of everyone knowing their rightful position in life. This notion of yours also confirms the accusation placed on you up there in Seneca County.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/12/16 05:15 PM

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=2922
Sylvester Stallone Endorses Donald Trump


http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?i...ampaign=popular
A beautiful summary of Trump's presidential campaign

http://www.ijreview.com/2016/01/511284-t...peoples-spines/
This Powerful Video Just Released About Donald Trump is Sending Chills Up and Down People’s Spines


Happy Birthday to Rush Limbaugh, born January 12, 1951 in Cape Girardeau, MO.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/12/16 07:57 PM

With regard to the "powerful video" you mention, what sends chills up and down my spine is not what the "main stream liberal media" is saying, it's Trumps own words. Things like declaring that he would round up and deport millions of people, that we haven't used the nuclear triad enough, that protesters should be roughed up, that he respects Kim Jong Un because he gets things done and eliminates his rivals, etc., all point to a mind that is out of touch with reality or is so obsessed with power that he should not be trusted with the power of the presidency.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/14/16 09:00 AM

Trump video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWOOrwDUug
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/14/16 09:28 AM

Another temper tantrump over a microphone not working properly at a Trump rally in Pensacola, Florida:
Originally Posted By: Donald Trump
“Whoever the hell bought this mic system — don’t pay the son of a bitch that put it in, I’ll tell ya. ... No, this mic is terrible. Stupid mic keeps popping. Do you hear that, George? Don’t pay em. Don’t pay em. You know, I believe in paying, but when somebody does a bad job — like this stupid mic — you shouldn’t pay the bastard. Terrible. Terrible. It’s true. And you gotta be tough with your people, because they’ll pay, they don’t care, they’ll pay. So, we’re not going to pay. I guarantee, I’m not paying for this mic. Every two minutes, I hear, like: ‘Boom, boom.’ Anyway, I hope it’s okay for you out there.”

Wow. He sounds more like a character in "The Sopranos" than a contender for President of the United States. Imagine the respect such an adolescent tantrump would gather if his mic failed at a meeting of the UN or NATO etc.
Posted by: secure white guy

Re: Donald Trump - 01/14/16 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
With regard to the "powerful video" you mention, what sends chills up and down my spine is not what the "main stream liberal media" is saying, it's Trumps own words. Things like declaring that he would round up and deport millions of people, that we haven't used the nuclear triad enough, that protesters should be roughed up, that he respects Kim Jong Un because he gets things done and eliminates his rivals, etc., all point to a mind that is out of touch with reality or is so obsessed with power that he should not be trusted with the power of the presidency.

Splendid!

Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/15/16 08:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
With regard to the "powerful video" you mention, what sends chills up and down my spine is not what the "main stream liberal media" is saying, it's Trumps own words. Things like declaring that he would round up and deport millions of people, that we haven't used the nuclear triad enough, that protesters should be roughed up, that he respects Kim Jong Un because he gets things done and eliminates his rivals, etc., all point to a mind that is out of touch with reality or is so obsessed with power that he should not be trusted with the power of the presidency.
Yesterday I read the comments of a columnist who said can you imagine Donald Trump giving a State of the Union address? That sends chills up and down my spine.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/15/16 08:58 PM

Yesiree... who could argue with a positive message like this?

Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/15/16 10:10 PM

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/n...hours/78823046/
Trump rents Iowa theater to show Benghazi movie

Donald Trump has rented space at an Urbandale movie theater and will give Iowans free tickets to a showing of the Benghazi movie that critics of Hillary Clinton have been eagerly awaiting.

“Mr. Trump would like all Americans to know the truth about what happened at Benghazi,” the GOP presidential candidate’s Iowa co-chair Tana Goertz said Thursday night.

Trump will pay for the showing of “13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi” at 6 p.m. Friday at the Carmike Cobblestone 9 Theatre at 86th Street and Hickman Road, Goertz said.

“The theater is paid for. The tickets are paid for. You just have to RSVP,” she said.

Trump, a billionaire New York real estate entrepreneur, flies to Iowa for a 10 a.m. campaign rally on Friday at Living History Farms in Urbandale. He’s currently in second place in the GOP presidential race here, trailing Texas U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz by 3 points, the latest Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics Iowa Poll shows.

Trump has said he’s willing to spend a billion dollars to win the GOP nomination. “I make $400 million a year so what difference does it make?” he told reporters in Iowa in August.

Tickets for the movie, which opened Thursday, cost about $8 each, the theater’s website shows.

The word "Benghazi" has re-emerged in the GOP race. In the GOP debate in South Carolina Thursday night, presidential rival Jeb Bush was first to bring it up, saying Clinton would “continue down the path of Benghazi” and would be “a national security mess.”
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/16/16 07:09 PM

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/14/trump-more-than-doubles-lead-nationally/
Trump more than Doubles His Lead Nationally

A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Thursday shows Donald Trump scoring his highest percentage in a national Republican primary poll, 33 percent, and more than doubling his lead.

Ted Cruz came in second with 20 percent, Marco Rubio followed with 13 percent and Ben Carson got 12 percent. Jeb Bush and Chris Christie are tied with 5 percent, no other GOP contenders got more than 3 percent. Trump has extended his lead over Cruz nationally from five points a month a ago, 27 to 22 percent, this marks an increase in his lead of 160 percent.

This isn’t the only significant increase in support the poll shows for the New York real estate developer, 65 percent of Republican primary voters said they could see themselves supporting Trump, only 23 percent said the same back in March 2015.

Both Senators Cruz and Rubio also saw an increased percentage of Republicans willing to support them compared to the results in March, Cruz has the highest support at 71 percent (was at 40 percent), and Rubio is at 67 percent (used to 56 percent). While the poll shows that both Carson and Bush have fewer Republican primary voters willing to support them, 42 percent and 60 percent, respectively. Seventy-five percent of GOP voters saw themselves supporting Jeb in June and 77 percent did for Carson in an October poll.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/16/16 07:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Yesiree... who could argue with a positive message like this?
Quite obviously with his poll ratings climbing since day one, quite a few.

The half dozen Communists on the forums who wouldn’t have voted for a Republican and can’t vote in the Republican primary anyway really don’t matter.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/16/16 10:26 PM

So you're one of those who agree that "America sucks?" The fascists probably had high poll numbers, too. Lots to look forward to with that sort of mindset.

And by the way, I don't think you have any idea what communism means. I haven't seen anything on these forums that would remotely suggest an advocacy for communism as a means of governing the U.S. If you can think of any specific references, please share. Otherwise, you're better off not displaying your ignorance.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 01/17/16 02:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
So you're one of those who agree that "America sucks?" The fascists probably had high poll numbers, too. Lots to look forward to with that sort of mindset.

And by the way, I don't think you have any idea what communism means. I haven't seen anything on these forums that would remotely suggest an advocacy for communism as a means of governing the U.S. If you can think of any specific references, please share. Otherwise, you're better off not displaying your ignorance.

Clearly.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 01/17/16 08:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Yesiree... who could argue with a positive message like this?
Quite obviously with his poll ratings climbing since day one, quite a few.

The half dozen Communists on the forums who wouldn’t have voted for a Republican and can’t vote in the Republican primary anyway really don’t matter.



Rich, in what frame of mind did you conceive the ideal that any sane or intelligent person would even support the dysfunctions of the GOP party let alone vote in an primary or General election? Your long dissertations in favor of Trump gives light to the fact that there are fools who will vote for Bozo the clown if he is running......wait.......Trump is the epitome of Bozo in his mannerism,speech and demeanor.....I've just proven my own point. whistle
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/17/16 01:37 PM

Someday Trump will say something so vulgar and outrageous that no one will justify being able to support him any longer and that is the last we will hear of Donald Trump.

www.mediaite.com/online/mark-levin-unloa...es-are-maniacs/

Mark Levin sounded pretty angry with Donald Trump tonight for some “stupid” blunders, including his trashing of Ted Cruz as a “maniac.”

Levin is a big fan of Cruz and loves how passionately he takes on the establishment, and so naturally he was more than a little dismayed to see Trump––who Levin said should be on the same side as Cruz on this––falling for the liberal media trap.

As a reminder, yesterday on Fox News Sunday, Trump said that Cruz won’t be able to get anything done as president because “you can’t walk into the Senate and scream and call people liars and not be able to cajole and get along with people.”

Levin scolded Trump for criticizing Justice Antonin Scalia on affirmative action and said it’s beyond the pale for Trump to be personally going after Cruz like this. He cried, “Why raise a stupid issue?!”
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/17/16 03:11 PM

Trump said that Cruz won’t be able to get anything done as president because “you can’t walk into the Senate and scream and call people liars and not be able to cajole and get along with people.”

Meh. Pot-kettle... unless Trump actually believes that you can go to Washington, tell everyone they're incompetent stupid losers and then expect you'll be able to cajole and get along with people.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/17/16 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Trump said that Cruz won’t be able to get anything done as president because “you can’t walk into the Senate and scream and call people liars and not be able to cajole and get along with people.”
I am quite sure no presidential candidate in US history fits this description as well as Donald Trump. Although Cruz may be a distant second. It is totally amazing what Trump has got away with so far. Ted Baker, the Republican morning guy on WGVA, said last week Trump's support is a mile wide and an inch deep. I certainly agree.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/17/16 08:30 PM

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/30/black-pastor-the-liberal-media-doesnt-know-the-real-trump-video/
Black Pastor: the Liberal Media Doesn’t Know the Real Donald Trump.

Dr. Darrell Scott, Pastor of New Spirit Revival Center in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, said the Monday meeting between black pastors and Donald Trump was a “meaningful dialogue… and we voiced concerns that were sensitive to the African-American community.”

Scott, speaking at Trump Tower in New York City said, “I didn’t have concerns [with Trump] because I was already convinced, but there were concerns that the liberal media has put out portraying Mr. Trump in a light that I know he’s not the type of person he was depicted to be. So what we were able to do today was allow to see his heart for themselves and to make up their own minds about him. And they find out that he’s not the person that the media has depicted him to be.”

Scott explained, “We had a very productive, constructive meeting. We made history today because we had had meaningful dialogue from Mr. Donald Trump and we voiced concerns that were sensitive to the African-American community. And we asked questions were answered and we were satisfied with the answers and we’re a unified front right here. We had a wonderful time, a wonderful dialogue, wonderful fellowship, wonderful interaction. It was a great day.”

When asked by a reporter if he was endorsing Trump, Scott said, “I support Donald Trump and everybody knows that. Everybody knows that.”

Scott added that some of the ministers were meeting with Trump for the first time and, “They want to hear his voice, they are going to pray to God about it as ministers do. But nobody in this meeting came out with a negative reaction in any kind of way. Everybody came out positive. It’s a great atmosphere
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/17/16 09:01 PM

Well, Dr. Scott is certainly entitled to his opinion, but there is more to that story than was reported in that Daily Caller article.

Black Pastors Demand Apology from Donald Trump

Trump's Botched Meeting With Black Pastors

Black Pastors Rail Against Closed Door Meeting With Trump Citing Racist Language and Incitement
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/18/16 07:40 AM

From your links, it appears that those complaining were invited but did not attend because they did not support him anyway. His mention of them as being miscommunication is hardly any different that Hillary saying she misspoke.

But it appears that Bernie may well beat out Hillary anyway.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-voters-insight-idUSMTZSAPEC1H40WMLD
Many 'lost' voters say they have found their candidate in Trump

Ted Wade hasn’t cared about politics enough to cast a vote in a U.S. presidential election for almost a quarter of a century, back when he supported Ross Perot’s independent candidacy in 1992.

But Republican Donald Trump's 2016 White House bid has motivated Wade to get involved and he plans to support the real estate mogul in Nevada’s nominating caucus next month. Trump is a "non-politician" who can fix the "chaos" in Washington, he says.

About one in 10 Americans who plan to cast a vote this election will do so for the first time in years, if ever, and Trump holds a decided edge with them, according to polling by Reuters/Ipsos. (tmsnrt.rs/1SgeLvi)

These voters offer Trump a pool of voters who could be decisive either in the Republican primaries or a general election. They could be crucial for Trump in early-voting states such as Iowa and South Carolina, where his nearest rival, Senator Ted Cruz, is putting pressure on Trump and enjoys a strong base of support with more traditionally conservative voters.

In Reuters/Ipsos polling from June to December 2015, 27.3 percent of these “new” voters said they would vote for Trump, higher than his poll numbers among independents and Republicans who regularly vote.

By way of comparison, Cruz captures just 3.4 percent of these voters. And Senator Marco Rubio of Florida snags only 4 percent.

“I’m tired of the chaos between Democrats and Republicans and want to give somebody a try who I think can make a difference,” said Wade of Trump.

The 51-year-old has already switched his affiliation from Democrat to Republican and even attended a Trump campaign event in Las Vegas. He has told his three older children to get involved in the elections, although he did not say whether he wanted them to vote for Trump.

Trump, the Republican front-runner, has made targeting “lost” voters such as Wade a focus of his campaign. His anti-immigrant rhetoric and protectionist trade proposals have helped him to fashion a message tailored to reach Americans alienated by the endless enmity between the political parties and who, because of declining economic prospects, may feel like neither party has done much for them.

Trump’s strategy is a gamble, given the lack of reliability of many of the voters with whom he is most popular.

In interviews, some of those lost voters insist they will show up, saying they are drawn to Trump’s outsider status and his willingness to upend the political system.

PAGING A PIRANHA

Tucson, Arizona, resident Renay Cunningham, 56, said she had never paid much attention to politics in the past. She plans to cast her first ever vote for Trump after hearing his proposed policies to curb illegal immigration, which include building a giant wall on the southern border and making Mexico pay for it.

“We need a piranha in there, and he’s definitely a piranha,” she said.

Trump and his operatives are confident they can do what few of his rivals for the Republican nomination have shown they can do — expand the party’s potential voter pool.

“My whole campaign has been focused on expanding the number of people who want to, and will, participate in this election cycle,” Trump wrote in a recent op-ed in USA Today.

When analyzing “lost” or “new” voters, Reuters compiled poll results from people who haven’t voted in the previous two presidential campaigns and midterm congressional elections.

The results focused only on those who said they were nearly certain to vote in the November election. It included responses from 3,440 “new” Republican and independent voters – a sample that has a credibility interval of 2 percentage points.

Jan Leighley, an expert on turnout at American University, said it’s too soon to compare Trump’s “new” voters with the disenfranchised voters, especially minorities, who in 2008 turned out in record numbers to elect the first black president.

Those voters didn’t find their way to the polls simply because they were inspired to make history, Leighley said. “He also had a kick-ass mobilization structure."

“Obama’s campaign went door-to-door. They canvassed whole neighborhoods. “I don’t know if he (Trump) has the campaign infrastructure to make sure that the folks who are riled up are walked to the polls on Election Day,” she said.

CHANGING THE RULES

Trump’s campaign insists he does have the infrastructure, but won’t provide specifics on how it intends to turn casual supporters into engaged voters. The campaign says it does follow up with the thousands of attendees who jam arenas for Trump’s rallies.

That’s one significant advantage the reality star has over the other candidates in the Republican field, as the challenge in reaching voters who have fallen out of the political process often lies in simply locating them.

“We’ve identified a lot of people in early primary states who have not participated in the process before,” campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told Reuters.

Lewandowski resists the notion that Trump needs to turn out “new” or reluctant voters to win states such as Iowa.

Even if the Trump campaign isn’t necessarily counting on them, it may be reassuring that his supporters among “new” voters who responded to the Reuters/Ipsos survey appear motivated to cast a vote for him. At least for the time being.

Ronald Thomas, a 49-year-old truck driver and Navy veteran in North Carolina, said he, too, has never voted in a presidential contest. His girlfriend would push him to vote but he would always say "Yeah, but the right one ain’t come along yet,’” Thomas said.

Trump is that man. His willingness to take on the government has set him apart as someone who would "actually look out for the people," said Thomas. Now he wants to know how to register so that he can vote for the billionaire.

And there’s Vince DiSylvester, a retired maintenance worker in Missouri, who, at 73, said has never cast a ballot for president. But Trump has inspired him to rethink that.

"He's a businessman, he knows business, he knows how to get things done," he said. "And he tells it like it is. If you don't like it - well, too bad."
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 01/18/16 07:54 AM

Rich, make an attempt to separate politics from hatred and racism, therein lies your huge misconceptions about the "true Trump" and what your perceptions wants him to be. What's very laughable are your links in regard to how Blacks perceive him as a viable candidate. I'm still laughing.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/18/16 11:37 AM

Great Britain is our strongest ally in the world. They never got involved in American presidential elections before. But the British public is so up in arms over Trump they started this petition. I shudder to think what our relationship would be with the rest of the world if Trump is elected.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/uk-parliament-debate-donald-trump-ban_569cf936e4b0b4eb759f0e3b

LONDON (AP) — British lawmakers are due Monday to debate a call for U.S. presidential hopeful Donald Trump to be banned from the U.K. over his remarks about Muslims — though the government is unlikely to bar the divisive Republican Party contender.

More than 500,000 people have signed an online petition calling for Trump to be blocked for "hate speech" after he called for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States in the wake of attacks by extremists

Under British law any online petition backed by 100,000 people — who must provide and confirm an email address — is considered for parliamentary debate.

Labour lawmaker Paul Flynn, who chairs Parliament's Petitions Committee, will kick off a three-hour debate Monday, which will not result in a binding vote.

Flynn said he would try to convey the anger of petitioners, but suggested banning Trump could be "counter-productive" by making him appear to be a victim.

Trump owns a Scottish golf course, and his mother was born in Scotland.

Prime Minister David Cameron has condemned Trump's remarks as "divisive, stupid and wrong." But he and other senior officials have said they do not think Trump should be banned.

Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the opposition Labour Party, also said Trump should be allowed to come to Britain, and offered to take him to a mosque in Corbyn's London constituency.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/18/16 02:36 PM

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/videos/news/politics/iowa-poll/caucus/2015/12/12/77221232/
Cruz Surges Ahead of Trump in Latest Iowa Poll

Cruz 31%
Trump 21%
Carson 13%
Rubio 10%
Bush 6%
Rand, Chris & Mike at 3% or lower
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/18/16 02:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/videos/news/politics/iowa-poll/caucus/2015/12/12/77221232/
Cruz Surges Ahead of Trump in Latest Iowa Poll

Cruz 31%
Trump 21%
Carson 13%
Rubio 10%
Bush 6%
Rand, Chris & Mike at 3% or lower
Trump's ego is so big that after one loss he may say the elections are fixed and drop out. grin
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/18/16 05:41 PM

Unfortunately that's old news. Polls seem to change daily, but it would be poetic if El Trumpo got "schlonged" in Iowa -- a state where he questioned the stupidity of the voters. smirk
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/19/16 04:22 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/01/18/donald-trump-ban-uk-mps-parliament-debate_n_9010746.html

British MPs have condemned Donald Trump variously as a “wazzock”, “buffoon” and “fool” as they were divided over whether the US Presidential candidate should be banned from entering the UK.

The billionaire property tycoon received withering criticism from MPs from across the political spectrum after a petition signed by more than half-a-million people calling for Mr Trump to be barred following anti-Muslim remarks - and over 100,000 who said he should be allowed in - forced a debate in the House of Commons.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/19/16 02:20 PM

Bob Gates was Secretary of Defense under both G. W. Bush and Obama. I put a lot of faith in what he is saying.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bob-gates-gop-2016-217961

Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates on Tuesday blasted the Republican field for their rhetoric on destroying the Islamic State.

“First of all they, they don’t know what they’re talking about,” Gates told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”


Front-runner Donald Trump has said as president he would “bomb the s---” out of the Islamic State, while rival Ted Cruz has suggested carpet bombing them into oblivion.

“Carpet bombing would be completely useless. It’s totally contrary to the American way of war,” said Gates, who was appointed by former President George W. Bush and also served under President Barack Obama. “Total disregard for civilians. So, I mean, part of the concern that I have with the campaign, particularly when it comes to national security, is that the solutions being offered are so simplistic and so at odds with the reality of the rest of the world, with the way the world really works.”

Alluding to political outsiders Trump and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, Gates challenged their ability to be an effective president. “I will tell you this: I do think that politics is a profession,” he said. “And I think that if you don’t have any experience in how government works, if you have never been in government, your ability to make the government work is going to be significantly reduced."

“It’s different than business,” he continued. “It’s different than surgery. It’s different than anything else. It’s a skill set that you bring based on experience and based on dealing with other people.”

In December, Gates, who is promoting a new book on leadership, wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post outlining his take on "the kind of president we need."

Asked on "Morning Joe" whether any candidate had met his criteria, Gates said, "I don’t see any.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bob-gates-gop-2016-217961#ixzz3xit5JrEA
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/19/16 02:30 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...6ef3_story.html

by Bob Gates

Many Americans are mad as hell at our political leaders — both Republican and Democrat — and are giving voice to their anger through the likes of Donald Trump and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). The anger is understandable. The federal government is paralyzed, unable to tackle any of the major problems facing our country or even accomplish basic functions such as enacting annual budgets for federal departments and agencies. The anger derives equally from governmental ineptitude, arrogance and corruption, and self-serving politicians more concerned with getting reelected than with the nation’s future.

The next president will face major domestic problems, as well as the challenges posed by Iran, Russia, China, North Korea, terrorism and a Middle East in turmoil. What kind of qualities should we be looking for in a new chief executive? Based on my experience working for eight presidents, of both political parties, here is my take:

&#9679;We need a president who understands the system of government bequeathed to us by the Founders — and grasps the reality that with power divided among three branches of government, building coalitions and making compromises are the only ways anything lasting can get done. Primal screaming may be good therapy, but it is a poor substitute for practical politics. Arch-conservatives may want little government and arch-liberals may want a lot, but many functions of government are critical to our well-being, and they can be carried out effectively only if Congress and the president work together. Those who believe that compromise is synonymous with selling out or giving up one’s principles need to retake eighth-grade American history. The next president needs to have a core philosophy and set of principles, but he or she also needs to be a pragmatic and skilled political leader — like Franklin D. Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/19/16 04:23 PM

Donald Trump is being endorsed by the former female governor of Alaska who did not know Africa was a continent. She thought it was a country. Maybe he will make her secretary of Defense.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/20/us/politics/donald-trump-sarah-palin.html?_r=0

Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice-presidential nominee who became a Tea Party sensation and a favorite of grass-roots conservatives, will endorse Donald J. Trump in Iowa on Tuesday, officials with his campaign confirmed. The endorsement provides Mr. Trump with a potentially significant boost just 13 days before the state’s caucuses.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/19/16 05:13 PM

I was just going to post that. At least by June we'll know who is running.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/19/16 05:29 PM

Breaking News! Air head endorses Swelled head! laugh
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/19/16 05:45 PM

Jennifer Rubin, not known for her liberal views, writes in her column today that Trump and Cruz are like "Two scorpions in a bottle, each trying to disable the other. For those who are put off by their over-hyped rhetoric, appeals to xenophobia, lack of appreciation for mature governance and disdain for the truth, it is hard to know which side to root for."

Word! grin

Jennifer Rubin's latest column: Does the GOP Want A Hater As President?
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/19/16 10:17 PM

http://therightscoop.com/herman-cain-ive...ocrat-to-trump/
Herman Cain: I’ve Got Black Callers Who Say They Are Going From Democrat to Trump

Herman Cain sought to explain the Trump phenomenon this morning on Fox and Friends, explaining that Trump is pulling in black voters from across the aisle. He points out, though, that these black callers aren’t going from Democrat to Republican, but rather Democrat to Trump:

Here’s the full interview if you want to watch:

http://therightscoop.com/herman-cain-ive.../#ixzz3xkogliFv
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/19/16 10:30 PM

http://gopthedailydose.com/2016/01/13/ep...rats-are-crazy/
Epic! Black Ex-Democrat Explains Why She’s Supporting TRUMP And Democrats Are Crazy!

“Trump gives me real hope and change, not fake hope and change. I’m voting for America because I believe in America,” she says, before ripping into the Democrat Party’s twisted priorities. “I never thought I’d be saying these words about the country!”

“Democrats don’t speak about the country but I’ve woken up, I’ve seen the truth and the truth is Trump, I believe in this guy to make our country better because our country is going to hell!” she continued. “My daughter can’t find a job, she’s a college graduate. Black men are 50% unemployed. Our borders are wide open. I love everybody don’t get me wrong, but we have to close our borders.”

She then reaffirmed her support for the billionaire businessman, while stating what many of us have known for quite some time – Democrats are crazy.


“Trump is speaking the truth and that is why I’m here,” she said. “Democrats are crazy — I can’t believe I thought that way.”

The woman also said that her husband supports Democrat candidate Bernie Sanders, the self-proclaimed socialist that’s promising loads of free stuff and higher taxes for everyone, but she has a solution should her husband actually vote for the old geezer.

“If he don’t vote for Trump, we’re getting a divorce,” she said.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/19/16 10:47 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ump-shores.html
Why I’m so embarrassed today for Britain. The same parliament that hasn’t banned a single UK citizen from returning after fighting for ISIS is seriously debating banning Trump from its shores.

As I write this column, members of the UK Parliament are debating whether or not to ban Donald Trump from entering Britain.

They’ve allocated three hours of time to do this.

Time that could have been spent debating terrorism, famine, nuclear weapons, the Middle East refugee crisis or the Syrian War.

But no, instead British law-makers have concluded their own time is best served seriously considering a proposal to ban a man who may end up being the next President of the United States.

The reason they’re doing it is, of course, is because Trump recently called for a temporary ban on all Muslims entering the U.S. in the wake of an horrific mass shooting by two Islamic terrorists.

Like many, I didn’t agree with what Trump said and indeed, I wrote him an open letter at the time saying it was ‘dangerously wrong and bigoted’.

But to ban a foreign politician for expressing an opinion is utterly absurd. Particularly a foreign politician who stands an increasingly good chance of becoming leader of the world’s biggest superpower and Britain’s supposedly closest, most powerful ally.

Can you imagine a situation where President Trump, if he is elected, is actually banned? It would make Britain the laughing stock of the world, and confirm to Americans that we’re just as pathetically petty and small pond in our thinking as you’ve always suspected.

It would also cause serious, probably irreparable damage to Britain’s relationship with the United States.

The sheer hypocrisy in all this ‘Ban Trump’ nonsense is breathtaking.

Britain throws down the red carpet and blares out the royal bugles all the time for leaders of countries with heinous human rights records.

King Salman of Saudia Arabia can allow 50 people to be beheaded last month and nobody in the corridors of British officialdom batted a public eyelid. Yet he is treated like some kind of deity when he arrives in Britain in his fleet of gold-plated jets.

Russian President Vladimir Putin commits and spouts all manner of despicable, murderous, bigoted things and Britain welcomes him with State dinners at Buckingham Palace and handshakes outside Downing Street.

As for Chinese President Xi Jinping, there is barely enough room in my expansive sick bucket to cope with my involuntary spewing at all the sycophantic grovelling that goes on when he swings into my home country.

It’s always been like this.

I remember standing with Tony Blair inside his No10 office in 1997 as Sinn Fein leaders Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness were leaving after the first historic visit to Downing Street by Irish Republicans in 75 years.

‘Should I wear rubber gloves, Prime Minister?’ I asked as he proffered his hand.

‘You think those two are bad, you should have seen some of the African leaders I had in last week…’ he replied.

I don’t remember any parliamentary debates to have any of them banned.

But one wrong word from Donald Trump, and all hell breaks loose.

This ghastly monster must be stopped!

I know how Trump’s feeling better than most because I faced a similar attempt in the U.S. to have me deported for my views on guns.

More than 150,000 Americans signed an official White House petition demanding that I be booted out of the country for having the audacity to suggest better gun laws in the wake of the Sandy Hook school massacre.

(In fact, to my chagrin, there was also a rival petition which started up in the UK insisting I be banned from going home. So yes, Donald, my fellow Brits have tried to ban me too…)

What was interesting, and relevant, about the U.S. petition was how the White House handled it.

Obliged to respond to any petition that gathered over 25,000 signatures, President Obama instructed his then press secretary Jay Carney to announce that I would not be deported.

Why?

This is what Carney said: ‘Let’s not let arguments over the Constitution’s Second Amendment violate the spirit of its First. President Obama believes that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms. However the Constitution also enshrines the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press – fundamental principles that are essential to our democracy.

'Americans may disagree on matters of public policy and express those disagreements vigorously, but no one should be punished by the government simply because he or she expressed a view on the Second Amendment or any other matter of public concern.’

So I was saved because the President concluded I was perfectly entitled to air my opinion about a matter of public concern.

How is this relevant to Trump? Well, let’s go back to why he said what he said and when he said it.

His call to ‘ban Muslims’ came in the immediate aftermath of the deadly terror attack in San Bernardino, California, which killed 14 people and wounded 22 more.

For a country still feeling the very deep scars of 9/11, this was another hammer blow to national security and confidence.

It confirmed many Americans’ worst fears that there are radicalised Islamic terrorists living in their midst preparing to commit atrocities.

Trump, as is his style, didn’t mince his words.

His suggestion was brutally simplistic and to many – including me – brutally offensive.

But it didn’t mean he hates all Muslims.

Nor did it mean he wants all Muslims banned forever from America.

He specifically said he wanted a short-term bar on Muslim visitors being allowed into the U.S. until the current immigration policy is re-examined, believing the rules are too lax and making it too easy for potential Islamic terrorists to slip into the country.

He may or may not be right about that, I have no idea.

But there’s a distinction in what he actually said and how it’s been interpreted.

There’s also a matter of perspective.

Right now, there are believed to be hundreds of British Muslims who’ve left UK shores to fight with ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

None of them has been banned from returning.

Yet the UK Parliament appears more concerned with keeping out a billionaire real estate tycoon with a propensity for saying outrageous things but no track record, so as far as I’m aware, of murdering people.

I’ve been a fierce critic of the Second Amendment, believing it to be a deeply politicised clause in the Constitution which has cost vast numbers of innocent lives.

But I’m an equally fierce supporter of the First Amendment and wish we had something like it in Britain.

If we did, then Donald Trump would be free to express his opinion on an ‘issue of public concern’ – however unpalatable.

Just as I was free America to attack the pro-gun lobby in America who don’t want to do anything about school shootings.

Today’s Parliamentary debate is an affront to proper democracy, a stupendous waste of time, and it shames Britain.

I can only apologise to Donald Trump and to America for this embarrassing farce.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 06:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Trump, as is his style, didn’t mince his words.

His suggestion was brutally simplistic and to many – including me – brutally offensive.
This is exactly how Hitler got started in the 1930's. By harshly and verbally degrading every minority group and then some. But no one stood up to him. This is why we must now stand up to Trump or the great American experiment in democracy will be gone faster than you think.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 06:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
But it didn’t mean he hates all Muslims.

Nor did it mean he wants all Muslims banned forever from America.
Oh he wants to ban all non-whites from coming to America any more. He just doesn't dare say that yet.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 09:16 AM

She is such an airhead.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...f-donald-trump/

Sarah Palin endorsed Donald Trump's presidential campaign on Tuesday in Iowa. You may have heard that -- unless you were hiding under a pile of coats for the day. But, what you likely missed is the speech -- and I use that word advisedly -- that Palin gave as she threw her backing to The Donald. It was an address not to be missed, a remarkable bit of Palin-ism that left even the unflappable Trump somewhat flabbergasted. Thanks to BuzzFeed deputy politics editor Kyle Blaine, who performed the herculean task of transcribing her speech, we can now analyze the full text.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 11:04 AM

http://www.yesimright.com/trumps-support-just-went-crazy-this-will-put-him-in-the-white-house-wow/
Trump’s Support Just Went Crazy!

Just when you thought Trump’s support couldn’t get any bigger, it does!

We just reported that Trump was down with evangelicals in the south, but it seems that is a bunch of hogwash. Evangelical leager jerry Falwell, just endorsed Trump in a huge way, comparing Trump to his father.

This is one of the biggest complements you can give a man, at any level.

Liberty University president Jerry Falwell, Jr. introduced GOP frontrunner Donald Trump to thousands of people gathered to listen to him at his campaign rally at Liberty University in Virginia on Monday and said, “I see a lot of parallels between my father and Donald Trump.”

He described Trump as “one of the greatest visionairies of our time” and praised him for several good deeds Trump has done, such as donating 100,000 dollars to a friend who leads a ministry and paying off a couple’s mortgage.

Falwell also told the audience that Trump was the only candidate who walked down off the stage after the more-than-two-hour GOP primary debate to greet the crowd.

And the praise didn’t stop there!

“I’ve seen first hand that his staff loves him and is loyal to him,” Falwell said, adding that Trump “lives a life of loving and helping others as Jesus taught in the great commandment.”

Falwell said his father was criticized for supporting Ronald Reagan because Reagan was from Hollywood and not a Sunday school teacher. “I see a lot of parallels between my father and Donald Trump,” he added.

“He honors his fiduciary responsibilities…he speaks the truth publically even if it is uncomfortable for people to hear,” Falwell said of Trump, adding that he has “stunned the political world.”

“Donald Trump is a breath of fresh air in a nation where the political establishment from both parties has betrayed their constituencies,” Falwell said, adding that Trump is the only candidate who can claim he’s “not a puppet on a string,” while the wealthy campaign donors are the puppet masters.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 11:07 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Trump, as is his style, didn’t mince his words.

His suggestion was brutally simplistic and to many – including me – brutally offensive.
This is exactly how Hitler got started in the 1930's. By harshly and verbally degrading every minority group and then some. But no one stood up to him. This is why we must now stand up to Trump or the great American experiment in democracy will be gone faster than you think.


No Hitler started like Obama and Bernie et al. He promised everything and then blamed certain people when his mindless idiots didn't get it. all it took was greedy people that found it easy to blame someone else.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 11:46 AM

You really need to back and get your GED, cwjie, or at least read some history of the Nazi party, persecution of the Jews in Germany, look at the rallies in Berlin and compare them to the "Trump Trump Trump" rants.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 11:50 AM

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/12/13/donald-trump-sounds-acts-adolf-hitler-running-fuhrer.html

It is not unusual for a politician, especially one running for a national office, to study carefully highly successful political leaders’ campaign speeches and rhetoric. It should surprise no American that Republican frontrunner for the presidential nomination, Donald Trump, also carefully studied a highly-successful politician, except it was not an American and not the kind of monster any decent American should emulate. Donald Trump is not remotely a decent American, and based on his embrace of Adolf Hitler’s volume of speeches he made between 1918 and 1941, he intends on being an effective Nazi instead of a good American.

It is not like it was a secret that Trump’s hateful speeches, and more troubling, his policy proposals are very close to those instituted in Nazi Germany; even some conservatives have cited his “fascism.” However, the idea that he has studied, at least since prior to 1990, a book of speeches Hitler used in his rise to power should put an end to complaints about comparing him to Hitler or Godwin’s law.

The not surprising revelation is that prior to becoming a World Wrestling Entertainment or reality show celebrity, Trump kept a volume of Hitler’s speeches close at hand. Donald Trump’s ex-wife Ivana related in a 1990 interview with Vanity Fair that “from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.” Trump confirmed that the former Mrs. Trump’s 1990 assertion is true.

The way Trump rages like a madman, responds aggressively in public and argues closely follows Hitler’s instructions in “My New Order.” Trump successfully learned about targeting the audience’s lowest common denominator, how scare-propaganda works, and how to structure an emotional speech for effect and to incite rage. Trump has succeeded up to now in emulating his apparent Nazi hero because a recent analysis in the New York Times concludes that Trump is as proficient at hateful demagoguery as any 20th Century monster; they stopped short of naming Hitler…Godwin and all.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/12/13/donald-trump-sounds-acts-adolf-hitler-running-fuhrer.html

It is not unusual for a politician, especially one running for a national office, to study carefully highly successful political leaders’ campaign speeches and rhetoric. It should surprise no American that Republican frontrunner for the presidential nomination, Donald Trump, also carefully studied a highly-successful politician, except it was not an American and not the kind of monster any decent American should emulate. Donald Trump is not remotely a decent American, and based on his embrace of Adolf Hitler’s volume of speeches he made between 1918 and 1941, he intends on being an effective Nazi instead of a good American.

It is not like it was a secret that Trump’s hateful speeches, and more troubling, his policy proposals are very close to those instituted in Nazi Germany; even some conservatives have cited his “fascism.” However, the idea that he has studied, at least since prior to 1990, a book of speeches Hitler used in his rise to power should put an end to complaints about comparing him to Hitler or Godwin’s law.

The not surprising revelation is that prior to becoming a World Wrestling Entertainment or reality show celebrity, Trump kept a volume of Hitler’s speeches close at hand. Donald Trump’s ex-wife Ivana related in a 1990 interview with Vanity Fair that “from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.” Trump confirmed that the former Mrs. Trump’s 1990 assertion is true.

The way Trump rages like a madman, responds aggressively in public and argues closely follows Hitler’s instructions in “My New Order.” Trump successfully learned about targeting the audience’s lowest common denominator, how scare-propaganda works, and how to structure an emotional speech for effect and to incite rage. Trump has succeeded up to now in emulating his apparent Nazi hero because a recent analysis in the New York Times concludes that Trump is as proficient at hateful demagoguery as any 20th Century monster; they stopped short of naming Hitler…Godwin and all.


Yup sounds like Bernie, Hillary etc.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 12:34 PM

Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 12:43 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/12/13/donald-trump-sounds-acts-adolf-hitler-running-fuhrer.html
The not surprising revelation is that prior to becoming a World Wrestling Entertainment or reality show celebrity, Trump kept a volume of Hitler’s speeches close at hand. Donald Trump’s ex-wife Ivana related in a 1990 interview with Vanity Fair that “from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.” Trump confirmed that the former Mrs. Trump’s 1990 assertion is true.
Yup sounds like Bernie, Hillary etc.
I doubt if Bernie or Hilliary keep copies of Hitlers speeches in a cabinet by their bed.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 12:45 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/10-most-questionable-things-sarah-174800790.html

The 10 Most Questionable Things Sarah Palin Said During Donald Trump Endorsement Speech

Mic By Jessica Eggert
42 minutes ago

Former vice presidential nominee and Tea Party darling Sarah Palin publicly endorsed GOP frontrunner Donald Trump Tuesday in a fiery poetry slam-like speech full of analogies, questionable assertions and deliberately politically incorrect language.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 01:42 PM

From Wasilla, Alaska. I have heard the Palins referred to as the Wasilla hillbillies. I don't think Track would pass a background check, at least in the future. grin

www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us/track-palin-arrested-on-domestic-violence-charges.html?_r=0

Track Palin, the eldest child of former Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, was arrested and charged in a domestic violence case in which his girlfriend said he punched her in the head and threatened to fire a rifle, court and police documents said.

The charges against Mr. Palin, 26, were filed on Tuesday, the same day that Mrs. Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee in 2008, endorsed Donald J. Trump at a campaign event in Iowa. Mrs. Palin made no mention of the accusations against her son.

Officer Andrew Kappler said he arrived at the house just after 10 p.m. and found Mr. Palin, with his right eye injured, using a cellphone outside the house. The officer said he handcuffed Mr. Palin after he avoided questioning and became belligerent.

Mr. Palin’s girlfriend, according to the affidavit, was found hiding under a bed. She told another officer who arrived at the house that Mr. Palin hit her on the left side of the head near her eye with a closed fist and that she then curled up in a fetal position, “because she didn’t know what else he would do.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
And here we can see how low the Republican Party can go.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 02:04 PM

Watch: What On Earth Is Sarah Palin Saying In This Part Of Her Speech Supporting Donald Trump?

http://news.yahoo.com/watch-what-on-earth-is-1347253632925750.html#

Former Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin last night leant her support to presidential hopeful Donald Trump in her own inimitable way.

But what got people talking was not just Palin’s exuberant delivery at the rally in Iowa, or Trump’s muted reaction as he watched - but a brief segment in the speech.

A Vine showing the moment in question sees Palin say… something - although no one is quite sure what:

he odd word can be made out - “right winging, bitter clinging” is one choice phrase and we definitely heard the word “guns” in there, too.

But we can’t for the life of us work out what she’s saying or what point she’s trying to get across or whether it was part of her speech or just a fluff of her lines.

Vine poster DopeItStorm wrote: “Sarah Palin summed up Donald Trump supporters better than any of us have been able to do so far, I’ll give her that.”

Twitter user jrodriguez713 posted the Vine on his page, writing: "I’ve watched this at least ten times and I’m still trying to interpret what language this is in.”

That makes him and the rest of the world - probably Donald Trump, as well.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 02:08 PM

Trump and Palin: A clown show
January 20, 2016 | by Doug Thompson

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/58851

It’s hard to write rationally about the clownish acts of Sarah Palin.

Hard, hell: Impossible.

Her endorsement Tuesday of another political clown, flamboyant billionaire and former TV reality star host, is typical buffoonish effort by a laughable political has-been to get publicity.

Some of those who watch and write about the failed American political system claim her nod to Trump is noteworthy. They claim her endorsement will mean something to conservatives.

If so, then those right wingers are as brain dead as Palin and Trump.

Trump goes into the Iowa primary caucuses in less than two weeks as the presumptive front runner for the GOP nomination for President. The sad fact that he is even on the ballot is a indictment of Republicans as a whole.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 03:23 PM

Palin's "speech" endorsing El Trumpo was so fitting. It's hard to say whether her speaking style emulates his or vice versa. Both amount to little more than a series of disconnected rambling sentences -- a sort of verbal diarrhea -- completely divorced from any reason or theme other than self aggrandizement and bashing Obama (Trump should remind her that she got "schlonged" when she ran for VP).
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/20/16 09:41 PM

A fitting headline from one of El Trumpo's hometown papers...

Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 01/21/16 06:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Palin's "speech" endorsing El Trumpo was so fitting. It's hard to say whether her speaking style emulates his or vice versa. Both amount to little more than a series of disconnected rambling sentences -- a sort of verbal diarrhea -- completely divorced from any reason or theme other than self aggrandizement and bashing Obama (Trump should remind her that she got "schlonged" when she ran for VP).



Never in my life have I observed such dysfunction in one party, also Sarah just exposed another example of the GOP failing to take responsibility for their own failed actions.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/veterans/vets-don-t-blame-obama-track-palin-s-behavior-n500716
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/21/16 07:08 AM

Birds of a feather flock together. Trump and Putin speak so highly of each other. If Trump becomes president he will probably try and become a dictator just like Putin. The time to stop Trump is now!

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/vladim...inquiry-n500996

LONDON — Russian President Vladimir Putin likely personally sanctioned the nuclear murder of ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko, a British judge ruled Thursday.

The dissident died in 2006 after drinking green tea poisoned with radioactive polonium-210 in a London hotel. Litvinenko had predicted that Russia would assassinate him and claimed on his deathbed that Putin likely ordered his killing.

After a six-month public inquiry, a British judge ruled that the one-time KGB agent was murdered on the orders of Russia's FSB security agency — and that the action was "probably approved" by Putin.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/21/16 03:55 PM

Trump 25 years ago https://www.youtube.com/embed/MOKi5YeNtRI
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 01/21/16 04:05 PM

Amazing Rich, you've found a video broadcast-ed over 25 years ago that stated the the very popular trend of OUTSOURCING....now tell us that Mr. Trump didn't take advantage of the situation from procurement of materials to build his conglomerates to Mexican house maids and nannies. Once again, you've expose one of the biggest hypocrites in modern politics seeing that Trump is Liberal in RINO clothing who has found a niche in a less educated violent group of bigots and radicals.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...berals-liberal/
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 01/21/16 04:14 PM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ants-backs.html
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/21/16 07:18 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/kerry-washington-more-stars-join-203504734.html?ref=gs

All presidential candidates appreciate a good endorsement, but Donald Trump has just received the opposite from quite a few notable celebrities. The GOP front-runner, 69, is the subject of a new campaign called Stop Hate, Dump Trump aimed at ending his race to the White House.

The online organization calls Trump “a grave threat to democracy, freedom, human rights, equality, and the welfare of our country and all our people.”

Arguably the most controversial candidate in the race, the New York billionaire has been slammed for a variety of reasons, from his proposed ban on Muslims entering the United States to his crude comments about women.

Many celebrities have joined the Stop Hate, Dump Trump campaign, including Kerry Washington, Lily Tomlin, Connie Britton, Cynthia Nixon, Jane Fonda, Danny Glover, Harry Belafonte, Thandie Newton, Dylan McDermott, Rosie O’Donnell, Macy Gray, Roseanne Barr and director Michael Moore.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/21/16 09:27 PM

Pardon the brief digression, but I couldn't think of a better place to post this quote from nationally syndicated columnist Michael Gerson (a registered Republican) in the Washington Post:

"The arrival of Sarah Palin brings a special something to the 2016 campaign, like a little LSD added to the punch bowl."
laugh
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/22/16 11:23 AM

Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/22/16 07:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Amazing Rich, you've found a video broadcast-ed over 25 years ago that stated the the very popular trend of OUTSOURCING....now tell us that Mr. Trump didn't take advantage of the situation from procurement of materials to build his conglomerates to Mexican house maids and nannies. Once again, you've expose one of the biggest hypocrites in modern politics seeing that Trump is Liberal in RINO clothing who has found a niche in a less educated violent group of bigots and radicals.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...berals-liberal/
Glad to see that you now realize Trump is a liberal. I’m sure you’ll be ordering your “Make America Great Again” cap very soon.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/22/16 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/kerry-washington-more-stars-join-203504734.html?ref=gs

All presidential candidates appreciate a good endorsement, but Donald Trump has just received the opposite from quite a few notable celebrities. The GOP front-runner, 69, is the subject of a new campaign called Stop Hate, Dump Trump aimed at ending his race to the White House.

The online organization calls Trump “a grave threat to democracy, freedom, human rights, equality, and the welfare of our country and all our people.”

Arguably the most controversial candidate in the race, the New York billionaire has been slammed for a variety of reasons, from his proposed ban on Muslims entering the United States to his crude comments about women.

Many celebrities have joined the Stop Hate, Dump Trump campaign, including Kerry Washington, Lily Tomlin, Connie Britton, Cynthia Nixon, Jane Fonda, Danny Glover, Harry Belafonte, Thandie Newton, Dylan McDermott, Rosie O’Donnell, Macy Gray, Roseanne Barr and director Michael Moore.

This group of Haters are a joke which only strengthen Trump’s support even more. I mean really, Hanoi Jane, Michael Moore, Rosie O’Donnell, Roseanne Barr? From the list of un-Americans who say they’ll leave the country if Trump is elected and clowns like these do nothing to sway votes away from him.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 01/22/16 08:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Amazing Rich, you've found a video broadcast-ed over 25 years ago that stated the the very popular trend of OUTSOURCING....now tell us that Mr. Trump didn't take advantage of the situation from procurement of materials to build his conglomerates to Mexican house maids and nannies. Once again, you've expose one of the biggest hypocrites in modern politics seeing that Trump is Liberal in RINO clothing who has found a niche in a less educated violent group of bigots and radicals.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...berals-liberal/
Glad to see that you now realize Trump is a liberal. I’m sure you’ll be ordering your “Make America Great Again” cap very soon.



Not quite Rich, America will be great once you WASP are extinct and the current America can get on with the business of making progress unrestricted.
Posted by: secure white guy

Re: Donald Trump - 01/22/16 08:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot

Glad to see that you now realize Trump is a liberal. I’m sure you’ll be ordering your “Make America Great Again” cap very soon.

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
I’d prefer Cruz but I’ll vote for Trump if he wins the primary.


Whaat??

Looks like your conservative moral fortitude's now off the tracks tall coot. whistle




Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 01/22/16 08:24 PM

laugh


Now you understand the mentality of the GOP, if we can't run the country our way, just wreck it for spite.
Posted by: secure white guy

Re: Donald Trump - 01/22/16 08:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
laugh


Now you understand the mentality of the GOP, if we can't run the country our way, just wreck for spite.

Deeper still. These sicks cats will slit the throats of their GOP standard bearers in a heartbeat.

Far right fascistic populism at it's finest.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/22/16 11:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Not quite Rich, America will be great once you WASP are extinct and the current America can get on with the business of making progress unrestricted.
There you go again exposing your hatred. Maybe that explains why the majority of violent criminals are Democrats.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 06:18 AM

LOL, not quite hatred son, lets review history for the last 2 century, who brought slavery to the United States? who left their mother land to seek a better life? who wrote a Constitution declaring themselves a people with certain inalienable rights yet negated to make Women and and people placed under substandard conditions inclusive to those rights? who created Jim Crow laws in the South? Who reluctantly gave rights to women and Blacks during the 20th century? Who were the only species allowed to own land in the United States decades ago and BTW, land brutally taken from the true Native American here? History records a past riddle with WASP deeming themselves the only being capable of governing a Nation. Now I will allow you to refute those facts by showing us another side of history that was not recorded and after you're done we can return to the subject matter here, a party of millions yet possess maybe several hundred minority supporters......explain? No hatred here son, just someone reminding you that on the flip side of your constant post of this one Donald Trump's rise to political stardom, take a closer look as to who's supporting his rise and hateful speeches, along with the rhetoric fanning the hate.

Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 10:01 AM

Originally Posted By: secure white guy
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot

Glad to see that you now realize Trump is a liberal. I’m sure you’ll be ordering your “Make America Great Again” cap very soon.

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
I’d prefer Cruz but I’ll vote for Trump if he wins the primary.


Whaat??

Looks like your conservative moral fortitude's now off the tracks tall coot. whistle
I never claimed to be Conservative and have stated more than once my choice has always been Cruz. The choice between Democrat & Republican is between Socialism/Marxism and Capitalism. So whoever wins the Republican primary is my choice in the general elections. There is no conflict.

The multigenerational welfare sluts suffering from self aggrandizement believe their own lies and feel secure thinking that the politicians lying to them will play Robin Hood, or would that be more like robbing in the hood?

But that IS the New York state of mind. The Demoncrats run the State and the cities and everything is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !

I see murders are up 20% in NYC and NYS is number one again in taxes. I guess that SAFE Act isn’t working.
http://www.wgrz.com/story/money/economy/2016/01/20/ny-has-highest-tax-burden-us/79064318/

Congratulations once again to the Welfare State whose debt to population ratio at $2829 per capita in 2013 and climbing to become the highest in 2015 compared to the Volunteer State whose debt to population ratio in 2013 at $307 and falling to become the lowest in 2015. Oh, that’s right, TN is run by Republicans.

The problem New York has is that it needs a border to keep the taxpayers in to support all your secure welfare which includes all those welfare Demoncrats moving in.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/state-debt-per-capita-figures.html

Enjoy your delusions in the land of Taxes and laws where two out of the three in a room have already been convicted.

I laugh and laugh and laugh when I see the ads on TV exclaiming how business friendly New York State is.

Stay safe and "secure" where you are. LOL

But don't be surprised at who wins the nomination or election.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 10:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
The choice between Democrat & Republican is between Socialism/Marxism and Capitalism. So whoever wins the Republican primary is my choice in the general elections. There is no conflict.
Do you think "Social" Security and Medicare should be eliminated since they are government run programs?
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 10:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Talcott
I never claimed to be Conservative and have stated more than once my choice has always been Cruz.
Whaaaaaat?? That would be like the Germans in 1932 who said they didn't claim to be Nazis but their first choice for the elections was Adolph Hitler. But to be fair, if you're not a conservative why is your number one choice one of the most conservative pols around (one who apparently isn't liked by anybody else)?
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 10:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Talcott
I never claimed to be Conservative and have stated more than once my choice has always been Cruz.

Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 11:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Originally Posted By: Rich_Talcott
I never claimed to be Conservative and have stated more than once my choice has always been Cruz.
Whaaaaaat?? That would be like the Germans in 1932 who said they didn't claim to be Nazis but their first choice for the elections was Adolph Hitler. But to be fair, if you're not a conservative why is your number one choice one of the most conservative pols around (one who apparently isn't liked by anybody else)?

He also claims not be a Libertarian, yet his posts clearly indicate an obvious proclivity to embrace BOTH ideals.

An unabashed Trump apologist, to be sure. The fact that he's stated that if it comes down to it, he'd support either candidate, should be no surprise. Both contenders have not dissimilar fascistic leanings, as did the Proto-Nazis you elude to.

I submit that it's no coincidence. whistle
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 12:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/videos/news/politics/iowa-poll/caucus/2015/12/12/77221232/
Cruz Surges Ahead of Trump in Latest Iowa Poll

Cruz 31%
Trump 21%
Carson 13%
Rubio 10%
Bush 6%
Rand, Chris & Mike at 3% or lower
Rich, do you oppose an abortion exception for rape and incest?

http://liveactionnews.org/graham-attacks-ted-cruz-for-no-exceptions-pro-life-stance/

Dec 4, 2015

Graham also singled out his primary competitor and fellow Senator Ted Cruz: “If the nominee of the Republican Party will not allow for an exception for rape and incest, they will not win. Ted Cruz doesn’t have an exception for rape and incest.”
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 04:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
LOL, not quite hatred son, lets review history for the last 2 century, who brought slavery to the United States? who left their mother land to seek a better life? who wrote a Constitution declaring themselves a people with certain inalienable rights yet negated to make Women and and people placed under substandard conditions inclusive to those rights? who created Jim Crow laws in the South? Who reluctantly gave rights to women and Blacks during the 20th century? Who were the only species allowed to own land in the United States decades ago and BTW, land brutally taken from the true Native American here? History records a past riddle with WASP deeming themselves the only being capable of governing a Nation. Now I will allow you to refute those facts by showing us another side of history that was not recorded and after you're done we can return to the subject matter here, a party of millions yet possess maybe several hundred minority supporters......explain? No hatred here son, just someone reminding you that on the flip side of your constant post of this one Donald Trump's rise to political stardom, take a closer look as to who's supporting his rise and hateful speeches, along with the rhetoric fanning the hate.

My reply is in the tribal news thread. I did you the favor of not starting a Formermac tangent thread.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 04:07 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
The choice between Democrat & Republican is between Socialism/Marxism and Capitalism. So whoever wins the Republican primary is my choice in the general elections. There is no conflict.
Do you think "Social" Security and Medicare should be eliminated since they are government run programs?
That's why they are in trouble, because they are government run. They should be privatized.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Originally Posted By: Rich_Talcott
I never claimed to be Conservative and have stated more than once my choice has always been Cruz.
Whaaaaaat?? That would be like the Germans in 1932 who said they didn't claim to be Nazis but their first choice for the elections was Adolph Hitler. But to be fair, if you're not a conservative why is your number one choice one of the most conservative pols around (one who apparently isn't liked by anybody else)?
Because he is a Constitutionalist. I guess if nobody else likes him then he won't win.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 04:18 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
]Rich, do you oppose an abortion exception for rape and incest?

http://liveactionnews.org/graham-attacks-ted-cruz-for-no-exceptions-pro-life-stance/

Dec 4, 2015

Graham also singled out his primary competitor and fellow Senator Ted Cruz: “If the nominee of the Republican Party will not allow for an exception for rape and incest, they will not win. Ted Cruz doesn’t have an exception for rape and incest.”

No I do not, but I am not a one issue voter. Cruz and Trump both have ideals which would take cooperation from Congress and the courts to follow through with.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 05:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Formermac
LOL, not quite hatred son, lets review history for the last 2 century, who brought slavery to the United States? who left their mother land to seek a better life? who wrote a Constitution declaring themselves a people with certain inalienable rights yet negated to make Women and and people placed under substandard conditions inclusive to those rights? who created Jim Crow laws in the South? Who reluctantly gave rights to women and Blacks during the 20th century? Who were the only species allowed to own land in the United States decades ago and BTW, land brutally taken from the true Native American here? History records a past riddle with WASP deeming themselves the only being capable of governing a Nation. Now I will allow you to refute those facts by showing us another side of history that was not recorded and after you're done we can return to the subject matter here, a party of millions yet possess maybe several hundred minority supporters......explain? No hatred here son, just someone reminding you that on the flip side of your constant post of this one Donald Trump's rise to political stardom, take a closer look as to who's supporting his rise and hateful speeches, along with the rhetoric fanning the hate.

My reply is in the tribal news thread. I did you the favor of not starting a Formermac tangent thread.



LOL, you call that a rebuttal?

It's been noted as in times past, Rich has no viable response when confronted with facts. whistle
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 01/23/16 07:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
My reply is in the tribal news thread. I did you the favor of not starting a Formermac tangent thread.

And that one too will be deleted for violating forum rules of conduct.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/24/16 10:52 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...m_medium=social
Glenn Beck Declares Ted Cruz ‘the Next George Washington’

According to the latest Reuters poll following the Palin endorsement, Trump is leading the GOP candidates at 40 percent, with Cruz down sharply at 10.5 percent in second place.


]Note: I guess the Palin endorsement was worth more than the Beck endorsement. ]
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/24/16 12:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
I guess the Palin endorsement was worth more than the Beck endorsement.

Well sure, at least to the right wingin' bitter clingin' bell ringin' tassle swingin' ding-a-lingin' loonies that thought she would be a good choice to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. Fortunately for the country they lost. Anyway, it's still just puttin' lipstick on a pig:

For the remix version of her endorsement speech, CLICK HERE
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/25/16 12:59 PM

That was cute.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/25/16 01:01 PM

http://www.worldnewspolitics.com/2016/01...-to-stop-trump/

Bloomberg Plans Independent Bid for Presidency… Willing to Spend $1B to Stop Trump.

[Note: that's a maybe - he might announce in March.]



http://politistick.com/breaking-rick-per...wa-to-campaign/

The longest-serving governor in Texas history, former Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry, the author of what became known as the economic “Texas Miracle,” has made his coveted endorsement for the presidency.

Even though Rick Perry supported Ted Cruz’s opponent, Perry’s then-lieutenant governor, David Dewhurst, in his underdog senatorial race in 2012, Perry told Politico on Sunday night that he is throwing his support behind Ted Cruz and plans to join Cruz on the campaign trail in Iowa this week to stump for Cruz.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Donald Trump - 01/25/16 07:12 PM

http://www.vox.com/2016/1/25/10828770/trump-terrorist-family-appeal


Things that lets us know that our society has come to an all time low and this all coming from Conservatives.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/26/16 05:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/25/10828770/trump-terrorist-family-appeal

Things that lets us know that our society has come to an all time low and this all coming from Conservatives.
I read that yesterday. I have never been so scared for our country. He will certainly be America's Hitler.

**************************************************

There is a disturbing new anecdote from Donald Trump's presidential campaign in a story by reporter Ryan Lizza, who has a long feature on the Republican primary in the newest issue of the New Yorker.

Lizza followed Trump to an event this December in Mesa, Arizona, where Trump was interviewed by Fox News personality Bill O'Reilly. Shortly before the Mesa event, Trump had pledged to kill the families of suspected terrorists to deter them from attacking America. "When you get these terrorists," Trump said, "you have to take out their families."

O'Reilly, at the event, asked Trump if he was serious. According to Lizza, Trump said yes — and the crowd roared their approval:

Trump’s fans tend to express little regard for political norms. They cheer at his most outlandish statements. O’Reilly asked Trump if he meant it when he said that he would "take out" the family members of terrorists. He didn’t believe that Trump would "put out hits on women and children" if he were elected. Trump replied, "I would do pretty severe stuff." The Mesa crowd erupted in applause. "Yeah, baby!" a man near me yelled. which people cheered for the murder of women and children. I had never previously been to a political event at which people cheered for the murder of women and children.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 01/26/16 07:14 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Trump’s fans tend to express little regard for political norms. They cheer at his most outlandish statements. O’Reilly asked Trump if he meant it when he said that he would "take out" the family members of terrorists. He didn’t believe that Trump would "put out hits on women and children" if he were elected. Trump replied, "I would do pretty severe stuff." The Mesa crowd erupted in applause. "Yeah, baby!" a man near me yelled. which people cheered for the murder of women and children.

Bloodsport,

Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 01/26/16 08:00 AM


GOP Strategist Blames Right-Wing Media For Trump's Rise: "We Appeal To Only Cranky, Old White Guys":
http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/01/24/gop-strategist-blames-right-wing-media-for-trum/208132
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 01/26/16 08:02 AM


Rush Limbaugh Blames Obama For The Rise Of Trump
Limbaugh: "I Have Nothing To Do With This ... Nobody At Fox News Does"

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/01/25/rush-limbaugh-blames-obama-for-the-rise-of-trum/208146
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/26/16 02:03 PM

A wonderful father who has been married three times! OMG. Remember when Ronald Reagan become the first divorced man to be elected president? How far the "family values" party has fallen!

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/26/politics/donald-trump-jerry-falwell-jr-endorsement/index.html

Evangelical leader Jerry Falwell Jr. is endorsing Donald Trump for president, a blow to the GOP front-runner's chief challenger, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz.

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"(Trump) is a successful executive and entrepreneur, a wonderful father and a man who I believe can lead our country to greatness again," Falwell said in a statement released by Trump's campaign.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/26/16 02:10 PM

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/donald-trump-on-sex

But Trump also appeared on Stern's program numerous times, where he offered his appraisal of the bodies of several actresses and got into a memorable shouting match with a gossip columnist whose girlfriend he claimed to have stolen. Trump's been open about his own sex life in various magazine interviews, too.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/26/16 02:26 PM

Sen Ben Sasse (R-Kansas)

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/ben-sasse-no-trump-iowa-218245

Sen. Ben Sasse is heading to Iowa to campaign against Donald Trump over the next two days, with plans to appear at events for Senate colleagues Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, and "possibly other constitutional candidates," according to a statement from the Nebraska Republican's office.

"We are in a moment of constitutional crisis. America already has one post-constitutional party; we don't need another," Sasse said in the statement, two days after he unleashed a rapid-fire series of questions for Trump on Twitter.

On Sunday night, Sasse tweeted five questions for Trump, ranging from the personal ("You brag abt many affairs w/ married women. Have you repented? To harmed children & spouses? Do you think it matters?") to the policy-based (Q2: You’ve said you “hate the concept of guns.” Why the change? When did it happen? What’s the 2nd Amendment mean to you?).

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/ben-sasse-no-trump-iowa-218245#ixzz3yNpqkINf
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/26/16 07:28 PM

With time running out until the first primary votes are cast, establishment Republicans have begun a ferocious round of finger-pointing over who is to blame for the party’s failure to stop Donald Trump.

The chiding, once limited to private conversations, is now erupting in public view – with campaigns, operatives, donors, party officials, and conservative intellectuals arguing over why something hasn’t been done to stop the man who has been leading nearly every state and national poll since August. Trump, many in the GOP’s upper ranks are convinced, would lead the Republican Party to an epic defeat in November, with consequences all the way down the ballot.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/re...0#ixzz3yP4Mqvrz
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 12:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Formermac

My reply is in the tribal news thread. I did you the favor of not starting a Formermac tangent thread.


LOL, you call that a rebuttal?

It's been noted as in times past, Rich has no viable response when confronted with facts. whistle


You just don't like the facts, but I see the fact expert made a weak attempt at questioning them.
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 12:33 PM

I see that Trump has backed out of the next debate.

From a Ted Cruz e-mail:

You see, we learned hours ago that Donald Trump is refusing to face the voters in Iowa -- backing out of the ONLY GOP debate in Iowa just four days before the Iowa Caucus.

My question for Donald is this: if you can't face Megyn Kelly, how can you stand up to ISIS?

Or stand up to your pals in the Democrat party when it comes time to repeal Obamacare?

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/01/26/tr...lshare_facebook

Trump pulls out of Republican debate in Iowa
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 01:23 PM

https://scorchedearthnews.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/trump-did-the-right-thing-the-debate-is-a-set-up/
Trump Did The Right Thing: The Debate Is A Set Up


When Donald Trump took the stage for the first Fox News debate back in August, I’m sure he thought he was going to get a round of difficult foreign policy questions. Maybe questions about the names of foreign dictators that nobody knows or cares about. Or maybe since our economy is in the midst of the worst economic recovery ever, a lead off substantive inquiry about how the Donald would use his business acumen to help restore the country he loves. Nope.

Instead Megyn Kelly’s first tabloid zinger had to do with alleged comments Trump has made about women. Part of the question came from a funny exchange with a contestant on The Apprentice. The sad thing is Kelly took the comment about “a woman on her knees” out of context. Secondly, it’s a reality TV show and I’m sure the producers are looking for some playful dialog. Needless to say, the former contestant defended Donald and the controversy had no merit.

Media Matters thought the Fox moderators did a good job. That should tell you something. They had rehearsed all kinds of scenarios specifically geared toward the highly unpredictable Donald Trump. They even had a line about escorting him off stage according to The Gateway Pundit. But this is supposed to be “fair and balanced”. It’s a sad day for savvy conservative news gatherers when MSNBC starts to look reasonable.

Tomorrow night’s debate would have been more of the same. They’ve had 6 months to plan another soap opera moment. My hunch is they would have brought up Trump’s personal life or his past associations with democrats. They had an ace card, or a kill shot that they wanted to use. Donald isn’t giving them the chance to use it.

Or will they use it anyway? Even though Trump won’t be on the stage there’s a good chance the moderators are going to incorporate their premeditated blather in the form of a question to another candidate. Ted Cruz might be the recipient of such a question. My bet is it will go to a Fox approved RINO like Marco or Jeb in order to make them look all tough and manly.

One thing is for certain, Trump supporters are loyal. And Trump’s town hall event ought to be picked up by another network. It would be very interesting to see who has the higher ratings.

At the end of the day, Fox’s new “news” persona adds nothing to this campaign cycle. They do not ask substantive questions and their main goal is to pit the candidates against each other so a food fight ensues. None of this will help us understand who has the best plan to destroy ISIS. Or who is best equipped to save the economy or seal the border.

Fox News has become the non-stop drama channel. And they need Donald more than he needs them.

[Note: with Megan Kelly joining traitor Jane Fonda’s group, Dump Trump, her bias is in the open. Whether he made the correct choice will be told in the primaries and elections. I think Cruz was ahead of Trump in Iowa and will or would have likely lost that primary anyway. Briebart may have exposed their plan. ]

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/01/26/2868743/
Google and Fox TV Invite Anti-Trump, Hitler-Citing, Muslim Advocate to Join Next GOP TV-Debate

The two companies announced Tuesday afternoon that the anti-Trump Muslim advocate would be allowed to play a role in the debate.

The perspective of the Muslim woman, Noor, has been shaped by her Bangladeshi immigrant parents, who were paired off by their parents in an arranged marriage as teenagers, aged 17 and 14.

These Bangladeshi Muslim parents migrated to the United States — while hiding am anchor-baby pregnancy — and later kept Noor in the house for many years to prevent her from integrating with American society. “Growing up, we weren’t allowed out much, our parents wanted to preserve our culture at all costs,” she said. They even refused to let her date a man, even after she had gone to college, Noor said in a biographical video. The parents also arranged a marriage for Noor’s older sister. Her mother still wears a head-covering to mark her as a loyal Muslim.
Posted by: Lucinda Knotts

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 03:51 PM

El Trumpo must be terribly insecure underneath all that bravado bullshhht rhetoric of his if he can't take questions from someone that he believes is out to embarrass him. He needn't worry, he's doing any absolutely fine job of embarrassing himself. I just wonder what makes him believe that the sheer force of his "persona" would be enough to make members of Congress and foreign heads of state always see everything his way. And if they don't would he just throw a temper tantrump?
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
The choice between Democrat & Republican is between Socialism/Marxism and Capitalism. So whoever wins the Republican primary is my choice in the general elections. There is no conflict.
Do you think "Social" Security and Medicare should be eliminated since they are government run programs?
That's why they are in trouble, because they are government run. They should be privatized.

Any "trouble" they're having is a direct result of being handled as if they WE'RE privatized. It was mostly Republican policies that were responsible for illegally stealing from them and failing to replenish the funds. Simple as that. Furthermore, you're seriously overstating the severity of the problem. Over the years, Democrats have put forth several, utterly workable solutions to get those programs back on track.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 04:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
My question for Donald is this: if you can't face Megyn Kelly, how can you stand up to ISIS?
Oh he has that all figured out.

http://www.vice.com/read/donald-trump-sa...ign-video-vgtrn

Trump's never been shy about his opinion that the US should have taken oil out of Iraq, and during a speech in Michigan last December, the pseudo-fascist said, "to the victor belongs the spoils. You take the oil—you don't just leave it." Who exactly would be extracting the oil from the ground and transporting it was left unclear.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 04:17 PM

I hope Iowa ends in a tie so neither Trump or Cruz can claim victory on their way to a deadlocked convention.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 06:49 PM

Bingo. She is exactly right. That is what I have been saying for a while now.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/politics/anne-frank-donald-trump-adolf-hitler/index.html

In an essay to mark International Holocaust Remembrance Day, Anne Frank's stepsister accused Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump of "acting like another Hitler."

Eva Schloss, now 86, was a friend of Frank's in Amsterdam after their families fled Nazi Germany in the 1930s. Her mother, Fritzi, would marry Otto Frank, Anne's father, after World War II.

"If Donald Trump become(s) the next president of the U.S. it would be a complete disaster," she told Newsweek on Wednesday. "I think he is acting like another Hitler by inciting racism."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 06:52 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/politics/anne-frank-donald-trump-adolf-hitler/index.html

"If you go and look at your history and you read your history in the lead-up to the Second World War, this is the kind of rhetoric that allowed Hitler to move forward," former New Jersey Gov. Christine Todd Whitman, a Republican, told CNN on December 9, after Trump called for a temporary ban on Muslim immigration into the U.S. "Because you have people who were scared the economy was bad, they want someone to blame."
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 08:04 PM

The reason why Trump is not doing the debate is not just because of Megyn Kelly, he pulled out of the debate because Fox News mocked him in the pre-debate press release. If you are running a debate you don't put out press mocking or attacking a candidate in the debate you are hosting. I guess we’ll see in time whether Trump or Fox wins in the end.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/donald-trump-fox-news-debate/431523/

It’s the climax of a bizarre confrontation between the candidate and the dominant conservative news outlet. The first debate the network hosted involved some tense moments between Trump and Megyn Kelly, one of Fox’s premier personalities. The aftermath was much uglier, with Trump making comments about Kelly that were acknowledged as misogynistic by pretty much everyone except, well, Trump.

Fox announced that Kelly would be moderating Thursday’s debate, too, and Trump started making noises about a boycott. On Tuesday, he posted a cryptic video on Instagram:

Fox responded by mocking Trump: “We learned from a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly when they meet with him if he becomes president—a nefarious source tells us that Trump has his own secret plan to replace the Cabinet with his Twitter followers to see if he should even go to those meetings.”

That was too much for Trump, who announced his intention to skip the debate. Since then, the two sides have engaged in continuing skirmishes. Trump called the ayatollah statement “a disgrace to good broadcasting and journalism. Who would ever say something so nasty & dumb.” Fox accused Trump’s campaign of threatening Kelly. Trump called Kelly a bimbo, while claiming he wouldn’t. Meanwhile, Ted Cruz—who’s been engaged in a tense struggle with his old pal Trump for dominance in Iowa—piped up to challenge Trump to an alternate, “mano-a-mano” debate.

In short, it’s a big, absurd circus of performative masculinity, complete with accusations of cowardice, misogynistic commentary, and an unstoppable cycle of escalation leading to a position that hardly seems ideal for either side: Trump is rolling the dice by walking away, while Fox doesn’t get the No. 1 public attraction in every debate so far to appear on the stage.

Anyone who confidently predicts how this will shake out is either bluffing or employed by Trump or Fox. If Fox manages to get one up on Trump, it’d be a huge victory. Trump has consistently managed to marginalize conservative media outlets throughout the campaign, including, to a certain extent, Fox. If it wins here, it will cement the network’s dominance by showing they can win where other right-wing outlets and leaders have failed. For Trump, meanwhile, the danger seems clear enough: Doesn’t he look like a quitter for walking away? Well, maybe, but perhaps he’s just showing what a tough negotiator he is, willing to turn his back. It has been consistently hard to predict what might hurt or help Trump.

With less than two days before the debate, it’s clear that neither side can back down without a serious blow to their hard-won machismo. Unless, of course they can. This isn’t the first time Trump and Fox have feuded. After that first debate in August, Trump swore he wouldn’t appear on Fox again because he felt he was treated unfairly. Within days, he spoke with Roger Ailes, Fox’s chairman, and they made up. They had another blowup in September, then met again to iron that one out.

The political ramifications of this feud matter to both Fox and to Trump, for whom the results in Iowa and New Hampshire could either pave a path to the nomination or quickly and ignominiously deflate his bubble. But who cares about the politics? Ailes and Trump are both show-biz whizzes at heart, and this is great entertainment.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 08:08 PM


Man Charged for Throwing Tomatoes at Donald Trump During Iowa City Stop:
http://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Man-Cha...-366721381.html
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/27/16 08:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
The political ramifications of this feud matter to both Fox and to Trump, for whom the results in Iowa and New Hampshire could either pave a path to the nomination or quickly and ignominiously deflate his bubble. But who cares about the politics? Ailes and Trump are both show-biz whizzes at heart, and this is great entertainment.
It might be great entertainment if it wasn't the most serious problem affecting the USA since the Civil War!
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Donald Trump - 01/28/16 01:58 AM


Well, the man knows his base. eek

Data: 62% of the people Donald Trump RTed this week follow multiple White Supremacist accounts:

When most political candidates get endorsed by unsavory characters, they distance themselves quickly.

Not Donald Trump.

Two weeks ago the leading Republican candidate for US President was widely criticized for retweeting a white supremacist Twitter user with the name “@WhiteGenocideTM,” whose linked website sung Hitler’s praises.

It turns out that’s not an anomaly, it's a pattern. Inspired by a new Twitter account that tweets out the bios of anyone Donald Trump retweets (because they’re often remarkable), we went and looked up those people he's introducing to his audience of 5 million+ Twitter followers. In order to learn more about them, we analyzed the networks of people that those people he retweeted are following on Twitter, using Little Bird's influencer discovery and social network analysis software.

It turns out that Donald Trump mostly retweets white supremacists saying nice things about him. At least so far this week’s that’s how it's gone. This isn’t one person, of the last 21 accounts retweeted by @RealDonaldTrump so far this week, our automated analysis of their accounts finds that:

*28% of them follow at least one of the top 50 White Nationalist accounts on Twitter (6 of 21)

*62% of them follow at least 3 people who’ve used hashtag #WhiteGenocide lately (13 of 21)


More Here:
http://www.getlittlebird.com/blog/data-6...macist-accounts
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/28/16 03:04 AM

I am not sure Trump realizes we have a constitution or three branches of government.

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Collectively, the Senate Republican Conference is undergoing the five stages of grief as it grapples with the growing possibility of Donald Trump or Ted Cruz at the top of the GOP ticket — a predicament many members believe would result in sweeping losses for their party in November. Not a single senator has endorsed either candidate, and the universe of potential Cruz or Trump supporters in the chamber can be counted, at this point, on one hand.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/senate-republicans-cruz-trump-218300#ixzz3yWkkcdKn

Other GOP senators, upset at where the Republican Party finds itself on the cusp of caucus and primary votes, are directing their anger at the candidates or the media. Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) headed to Iowa this week for a last-ditch anti-Trump campaign.

The freshman senator is trying to lead the conservative brigade against Trump. He has fired off pointed questions to Trump on Twitter — even touching on the billionaire businessman’s extramarital affairs — and on Wednesday, he pressed his argument to Iowa voters that Trump would be as bad as, if not worse than, President Barack Obama himself.

“We have a post-constitutional party in this country, and we don’t need a second one,” Sasse said in a telephone interview from Iowa as he prepared to introduce long-shot candidate Carly Fiorina. “I would love to have Mr. Trump explain his views on the Constitution. This is a guy who said when he’s elected president he can do whatever he wants. What does that mean?”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/senate-republicans-cruz-trump-218300#ixzz3yWl89fPW
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Donald Trump - 01/28/16 03:07 AM

It’s hard to overstate the spectacle that a Cruz or Trump nomination would bring to the senior ranks of the GOP. Imagine vulnerable Republican senators breaking with their own presidential nominee to save their own hides, or party leaders being forced to praise a senator who they privately revile.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/senate-republicans-cruz-trump-218300#ixzz3yWmlqfAe
Posted by: Rich_Tallcot

Re: Donald Trump - 01/28/16 06:40 AM

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/poll-without-trump-83-say-they-will-skip-gop-debate/
POLL: Without Trump 83% Say They WILL NOT Watch GOP Debate
FOX News host Greta Van Susteren asked her conservative viewers if they will tune in to Thursday’s GOP debate now that Donald Trump has announced he will not participate.
83% of viewers said they WILL NOT watch the debate.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/gross-mi...lly-file-video/
GROSS. Michael Moore Joins Megyn Kelly to Bash Donald Trump on ‘Kelly File’ (VIDEO)
Jim Hoft Jan 27th, 2016
GROSS.
Marxist anti-American filmmaker Michael Moore went on ‘The Kelly File’ last night to discuss his latest America-bashing flick.

Moore also offered Kelly the ultimate compliment about her feud with Trump on her program Tuesday when he said; ‘In all seriousness, let me say this, you’ve done something that Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Rubio, Cruz – none of them have been able to do. Which is to, essentially, frighten him.’

Then, in a move that no doubt left many viewers shocked, Moore appeared to ask Kelly out on a date, saying; ‘I was thinking I was maybe going to have to, like, take you out to dinner afterwards. We could talk. You could emote … get it out. I’m here for you.’

New York’s Gabe Sherman is reporting that Moore’s appearance on Kelly’s show had some at the network fuming, with one of her fellow anchor’s noting; ‘That would be like Rachel Maddow laughing along with Charles Koch as he trashed Hillary Clinton!’

Some at the conservative network seem to be angry that K