"the mood is ugly"

Posted by: Teonan

"the mood is ugly" - 06/03/17 08:10 AM


Expect More Murders: Why the Radical Right Kills

By Spencer Sunshine
Truthout

June 02, 2017

The recent murders in Portland, Oregon, of two men whose throats were slashed when they tried to stop Islamophobic and racist harassment on a light rail train were not just random acts of violence. It is true that the alleged killer, Jeremy Christian, appears to be a troubled person. And it's true that the murders were outcroppings of the deeper violence of Islamophobia and white supremacy that pervades US society. But they were more than that. They were part of an ongoing spate of murders and shootings that are being directly inspired by the "scripted violence" of the right. When right-wing leaders and media demonize marginalized groups and broadcast calls about a supposed looming "white genocide," some of the rank-and-file will take these words literally -- and try to solve the problem with murder.

The Portland double-murder is only the latest in a series of politically motivated racist killings. In February 2017, Srinivas Kuchibhotla, an Indian man working in the US, was shot to death in a Kansas bar. His alleged murderer shouted "Go back to your country!" In March, a Black man, Timothy Caughman, was stabbed to death by a white man who had traveled to New York to allegedly kill all the Black men he could find. In Baltimore in May, a white man who was part of a Facebook group called "Alt Reich: Nation" allegedly stabbed a Black man, Richard Collins III, to death at a bus stop near the University of Maryland. And these incidents don't include the numerous other non-fatal shootings and attacks that have occurred.

Violence has made its way into the highest levels of US domestic politics in a way that hasn't been seen in decades. Donald Trump's 2016 campaign rallies raised the temperature: Amid fights at many of them, Trump himself egged the violence on, at one point saying, "So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of 'em, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell -- I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise. I promise."


Read on: http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/40800-expect-more-murders-why-the-radical-right-kills
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 08:33 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/politics/donald-trump-poll-job-approval/index.html

On March 11, 45% of Americans approved of the job Donald Trump was doing in Gallup's daily tracking poll. It's been all downhill since then.
In the intervening 86 days, Trump's job approval has never again reached 45% in Gallup's data. In fact, the last time Trump was even at 43% was on April 28. He's spent most of the time between then and now mired in the low 40s and high 30s.
And now, Trump finds himself in the midst of his worst extended poll run of his presidency. Starting on May 28 when Gallup put his job approval at 42%, Trump has been sliding downward. The latest Gallup track on June 3 put Trump's job approval at a dismal 36% -- a single percentage point away from the lowest ebb of his time in the White House. (On March 28, Trump's job approval was at 35%.)

The Gallup numbers are no anomaly. A Quinnipiac University poll released in late May put Trump's job approval at 37%. A Monmouth poll conducted in mid-May put Trump's job approval at 39%.

What makes Trump's polling struggles all the more remarkable is the fact that he spent most of the 2016 presidential campaign talking about just how good his poll numbers were. To Trump, his poll numbers were everything. Polls showed him winning so he must be doing something right because, wait for it, he was winning. It was the ultimate self-fulfilling and self-justifying prophesy for Trump.

For as much as Trump talked about polls during the 2016 campaign, he's been nearly silent about his numbers as president. According to the absolutely indispensable Trump Twitter Tracker -- a searchable archive of all of Trump's tweets -- he's only sent seven tweets about polls since he was inaugurated on January 20.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 08:39 AM

Maybe this is the beginning of the end for Trump?

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/tweeting-fuming-trump-spirals-further-crisis-n768211

For a presidency that's already in crisis — see his 36% job-approval rating per Gallup or this Thursday's upcoming testimony by former FBI Director James Comey — the last 24 hours or so have been extraordinarily horrendous for President Trump.

For starters, there was his out-of-context shot at London's mayor after the terrorist attack on the city Saturday night (before playing a round of golf). Then there were his tweets this morning that called his revised travel ban "watered down" and "politically correct," potentially undermining his administration's legal defense that the ban doesn't discriminate against Muslims. And then there's this stunning Politico article — that Trump deliberately failed to include language in his recent NATO speech reaffirming the alliance's Article 5 provision.

National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson all supported Trump doing so and had worked in the weeks leading up to the trip to make sure it was included in the speech, according to five sources familiar with the episode. They thought it was, and a White House aide even told the New York Times the day before the line was definitely included.

It was not until the next day, Thursday, May 25, when Trump started talking at an opening ceremony for NATO's new Brussels headquarters, that the president's national security team realized their boss had made a decision with major consequences - without consulting or even informing them in advance of the change.

Four and a half months into Trump's presidency, it's easy for political observers to become numb to every controversy and crisis coming from the White House. But this bears emphasizing: This is a president who, day after day, is destroying his credibility.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 08:42 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson all supported Trump doing so and had worked in the weeks leading up to the trip to make sure it was included in the speech, according to five sources familiar with the episode. They thought it was, and a White House aide even told the New York Times the day before the line was definitely included.
I would love to see all three of these guys announce they were resigning at the same time. Then I think the House and Senate would abandon supporting Trump also and he would be forced to resign.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 09:55 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: kyle585
National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson all supported Trump doing so and had worked in the weeks leading up to the trip to make sure it was included in the speech, according to five sources familiar with the episode. They thought it was, and a White House aide even told the New York Times the day before the line was definitely included.
I would love to see all three of these guys announce they were resigning at the same time. Then I think the House and Senate would abandon supporting Trump also and he would be forced to resign.


The house and senate are supporting Trump, what rock do you live under. The elite washington politicians do not support Trump.

I don't usually vote for Democrats, but I voted for Trump. He needs to keep pushing the rich elite out of Washington.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 10:38 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: kyle585
National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson all supported Trump doing so and had worked in the weeks leading up to the trip to make sure it was included in the speech, according to five sources familiar with the episode. They thought it was, and a White House aide even told the New York Times the day before the line was definitely included.
I would love to see all three of these guys announce they were resigning at the same time. Then I think the House and Senate would abandon supporting Trump also and he would be forced to resign.



The house and senate are supporting Trump, what rock do you live under. The elite washington politicians do not support Trump.

I don't usually vote for Democrats, but I voted for Trump. He needs to keep pushing the rich elite out of Washington.
EXACTLY!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 10:47 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: kyle585
National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson all supported Trump doing so and had worked in the weeks leading up to the trip to make sure it was included in the speech, according to five sources familiar with the episode. They thought it was, and a White House aide even told the New York Times the day before the line was definitely included.
I would love to see all three of these guys announce they were resigning at the same time. Then I think the House and Senate would abandon supporting Trump also and he would be forced to resign.
The house and senate are supporting Trump, what rock do you live under. The elite washington politicians do not support Trump.

I don't usually vote for Democrats, but I voted for Trump. He needs to keep pushing the rich elite out of Washington.
I said they are supporting him now! Can't you read? But if these key Trump appointments all resigned at the same tme over his not saying we will support article 5, I think there is a good chance the House and Senate would no longer support him either. Give me your definition of elite Washington politicians. I thought Congress was part of the swamp Trump was going to drain but instead he filled his cabinet with bankers and billionaires.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 12:44 PM

My god. There are high school freshmen smarter than Trump. Either that or he is mentally unstable. Either way makes me shudder.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/politics/trump-criticizes-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-again/index.html

Trump lashes out at London Mayor Sadiq Khan, again

By Eliza Mackintosh, CNN

Updated 12:26 PM ET, Mon June 5, 2017
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 01:50 PM

ROFLMAO - FROM FOX NEWS:

Kellyanne Conway's husband swipes at Trump on Twitter

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/05/kellyanne-conways-husband-swipes-at-trump-on-twitter.html

The husband of White House Counselor Kellyanne Conway – and a former top prospect to lead a Justice Department division – on Monday criticized President Trump for bashing the DOJ’s “politically correct” revision of his original travel ban executive order.

“These tweets may make some ppl feel better, but they certainly won't help OSG get 5 votes in SCOTUS, which is what actually matters. Sad,” tweeted George Conway, a partner at Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: kyle585
National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson all supported Trump doing so and had worked in the weeks leading up to the trip to make sure it was included in the speech, according to five sources familiar with the episode. They thought it was, and a White House aide even told the New York Times the day before the line was definitely included.
I would love to see all three of these guys announce they were resigning at the same time. Then I think the House and Senate would abandon supporting Trump also and he would be forced to resign.
The house and senate are supporting Trump, what rock do you live under. The elite washington politicians do not support Trump.

I don't usually vote for Democrats, but I voted for Trump. He needs to keep pushing the rich elite out of Washington.
I said they are supporting him now! Can't you read? But if these key Trump appointments all resigned at the same tme over his not saying we will support article 5, I think there is a good chance the House and Senate would no longer support him either. Give me your definition of elite Washington politicians. I thought Congress was part of the swamp Trump was going to drain but instead he filled his cabinet with bankers and billionaires.
People like Schumer who have been there way to long!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
My god. There are high school freshmen smarter than Trump. Either that or he is mentally unstable. Either way makes me shudder.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/politics/trump-criticizes-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-again/index.html

Trump lashes out at London Mayor Sadiq Khan, again

By Eliza Mackintosh, CNN

Updated 12:26 PM ET, Mon June 5, 2017

My god. There are high school freshmen smarter than Trump. Either that or he is mentally unstable. Either way makes me shudder. That's what I thought about you Kyle especially your rants on SM!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 05:04 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
My god. There are high school freshmen smarter than Trump. Either that or he is mentally unstable. Either way makes me shudder. That's what I thought about you Kyle especially your rants on SM!
But people expect from the president of the United States than they do me. But his tweets are even more ridiculous than any posting on here.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 05:11 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
People like Schumer who have been there way to long!
He comes to upstate NY much more often than Senator D'Amoto ever did. And Senator Gillibrand is a native of upstate NY.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 05:14 PM

LOL. This is so sad.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/05/reince-priebus-trump-chief-staff-239122

How Reince Priebus hangs on

Despite constant rumors about his departure, the former RNC head has held onto his senior West Wing role — partly because no one else wants the job.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/05/17 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
People like Schumer who have been there way to long!
He comes to upstate NY much more often than Senator D'Amoto ever did. And Senator Gillibrand is a native of upstate NY.
He's like Nozzolio! Never saw a microphone or camera he didn't like!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/06/17 01:51 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
People like Schumer who have been there way to long!
He comes to upstate NY much more often than Senator D'Amoto ever did. And Senator Gillibrand is a native of upstate NY.
He's like Nozzolio! Never saw a microphone or camera he didn't like!
Amazing. If a politician doesn't show up before his voter he is criticized for that. If he does show up, this is the criticism he gets.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/06/17 07:18 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
People like Schumer who have been there way to long!
He comes to upstate NY much more often than Senator D'Amoto ever did. And Senator Gillibrand is a native of upstate NY.


That's not true. Difference is D'Amato came up when there were issues to solve. Shumer only comes up when he has taxpayer money to give to his cronies.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/06/17 08:14 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
People like Schumer who have been there way to long!
He comes to upstate NY much more often than Senator D'Amoto ever did. And Senator Gillibrand is a native of upstate NY.
That's not true. Difference is D'Amato came up when there were issues to solve. Shumer only comes up when he has taxpayer money to give to his cronies.
D'Amato came up when it was announced the depot was closing. He talked about his mother and helping somebody on the Thruway who had a flat tire. He said next to nothing about the depot.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/06/17 09:59 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
People like Schumer who have been there way to long!
He comes to upstate NY much more often than Senator D'Amoto ever did. And Senator Gillibrand is a native of upstate NY.


That's not true. Difference is D'Amato came up when there were issues to solve. Shumer only comes up when he has taxpayer money to give to his cronies.
Exactly just like Nozzolio!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/06/17 10:55 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
People like Schumer who have been there way to long!
He comes to upstate NY much more often than Senator D'Amoto ever did. And Senator Gillibrand is a native of upstate NY.
That's not true. Difference is D'Amato came up when there were issues to solve. Shumer only comes up when he has taxpayer money to give to his cronies.
Exactly just like Nozzolio!
So if you don't support all Republicans if you didn't support Nozzolio?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/07/17 01:24 PM

I wonder how much more Trump's approval rating will drop after Comey's talk tomorrow. grin

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/07/trump-approval-rating-quinnipiac-poll-239250

By Madeline Conway 06/07/2017 02:05 PM EDT

President Donald Trump’s approval rating hit another low in Quinnipiac University’s poll, which found this week that 34 percent of voters approve of his job performance and 57 percent disapprove.

Trump’s previous low in the Quinnipiac survey was a 35 percent positive and 57 percent negative rating, registered on April 4.

The university’s most recent poll, released Wednesday and conducted from May 31 to June 6, also found that a large majority of respondents — 68 percent — believe that the president is “not level-headed” (29 percent say he is). Even among members of his own party, this holds true: 64 percent of Republicans say Trump is not level-headed, while 32 percent think he is.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/07/17 06:57 PM






Donald Trump's Approval Rating Is Better Than Bill Clinton's at This Point in His First Term

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-approval-rating-better-bill-clintons-first-term-621853
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/08/17 01:23 AM

Stick a fork in Trump. He will be done after Comey testifies today.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/08/17 01:32 AM

ROFLMAO

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✔
@MaxineWaters

So Comey told Jeff Sessions he didn't want to be alone with Trump. Women across the country can relate.
3:49 PM - 7 Jun 2017

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Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/08/17 12:12 PM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Donald Trump's Approval Rating Is Better Than Bill Clinton's at This Point in His First Term

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-approval-rating-better-bill-clintons-first-term-621853

Lies by omission: "Trump's disapproval rating in the survey was far higher, however, outpacing Clinton at 57 percent to 49 percent." whistle
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/08/17 12:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Donald Trump's Approval Rating Is Better Than Bill Clinton's at This Point in His First Term

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-approval-rating-better-bill-clintons-first-term-621853

Lies by omission: "Trump's disapproval rating in the survey was far higher, however, outpacing Clinton at 57 percent to 49 percent." whistle


The lies are coming from the lefts propaganda machine, and you leftists lap the propaganda up like a sponge.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/08/17 01:00 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Stick a fork in Trump. He will be done after Comey testifies today.


Looks like the only one done, is Mr. Comey.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/08/17 01:28 PM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Donald Trump's Approval Rating Is Better Than Bill Clinton's at This Point in His First Term

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-approval-rating-better-bill-clintons-first-term-621853

Lies by omission: "Trump's disapproval rating in the survey was far higher, however, outpacing Clinton at 57 percent to 49 percent." whistle

The lies are coming from the lefts propaganda machine, and you leftists lap the propaganda up like a sponge.

And yet, your post was the one misrepresenting the reality of Trump's popularity, wasn't it? smirk
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/08/17 05:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Donald Trump's Approval Rating Is Better Than Bill Clinton's at This Point in His First Term

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-approval-rating-better-bill-clintons-first-term-621853

Lies by omission: "Trump's disapproval rating in the survey was far higher, however, outpacing Clinton at 57 percent to 49 percent." whistle

The lies are coming from the lefts propaganda machine, and you leftists lap the propaganda up like a sponge.

And yet, your post was the one misrepresenting the reality of Trump's popularity, wasn't it? smirk



Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/08/17 06:16 PM

If you still support Trump after all this, then you are really messed up.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/08/17 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
If you still support Trump after all this, then you are really messed up.
Like I told you all along Kyle they have nothing on him!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/09/17 06:43 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
If you still support Trump after all this, then you are really messed up.
Like I told you all along Kyle they have nothing on him!
That is what you think. It is going to take a while. Mueller's report in the early fall of 2018 will be perfect timing.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/09/17 10:11 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
If you still support Trump after all this, then you are really messed up.


If you don't support "YOUR" President, you are not a Patriot!
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/09/17 10:17 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
If you still support Trump after all this, then you are really messed up.
Like I told you all along Kyle they have nothing on him!
That is what you think. It is going to take a while. Mueller's report in the early fall of 2018 will be perfect timing.



Quote:
Mueller's report in the early fall of 2018 will be perfect timing.


You're it right, it's perfect timing, and should be enough for a second term for President Trump.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/09/17 11:44 AM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
If you still support Trump after all this, then you are really messed up.
Like I told you all along Kyle they have nothing on him!
That is what you think. It is going to take a while. Mueller's report in the early fall of 2018 will be perfect timing.
Quote:
Mueller's report in the early fall of 2018 will be perfect timing.
You're it right, it's perfect timing, and should be enough for a second term for President Trump.
Oh, you think it is going to start a second term in 2018? LOL
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/09/17 12:08 PM

https://www.apnews.com/e125b57490b149f6907856e73eff8964

NOT REAL NEWS: A look at what didn't happen this week.

A roundup of some of the most popular, but completely untrue, headlines of the week. None of these stories are legit, even though they were shared widely on social media. The Associated Press checked these out; here are the real facts:

Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/10/17 12:07 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...kushpmg00000009

One of the Democratic Party’s top donors is urging lawmakers to begin impeachment proceedings for President Donald Trump.

Tom Steyer, the wealthy environmentalist turned super PAC funder, has penned a letter laying out the case that Trump has met the definition of obstruction of justice, and compelling lawmakers to act accordingly.

“The clear and undisputed facts about Mr. Trump’s attempt to impede an FBI investigation demand an immediate impeachment inquiry by the House of Representatives,” Steyer writes. “The facts that we know already exceed standards for presidential impeachment for obstruction of justice set in 1974 and 1998.”
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/10/17 09:25 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...kushpmg00000009

One of the Democratic Party’s top donors is urging lawmakers to begin impeachment proceedings for President Donald Trump.

Tom Steyer, the wealthy environmentalist turned super PAC funder, has penned a letter laying out the case that Trump has met the definition of obstruction of justice, and compelling lawmakers to act accordingly.

“The clear and undisputed facts about Mr. Trump’s attempt to impede an FBI investigation demand an immediate impeachment inquiry by the House of Representatives,” Steyer writes. “The facts that we know already exceed standards for presidential impeachment for obstruction of justice set in 1974 and 1998.”



Kyle, the billionaire democrat is a whinny sore looser like you!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/10/17 10:08 AM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...kushpmg00000009

One of the Democratic Party’s top donors is urging lawmakers to begin impeachment proceedings for President Donald Trump.

Tom Steyer, the wealthy environmentalist turned super PAC funder, has penned a letter laying out the case that Trump has met the definition of obstruction of justice, and compelling lawmakers to act accordingly.

“The clear and undisputed facts about Mr. Trump’s attempt to impede an FBI investigation demand an immediate impeachment inquiry by the House of Representatives,” Steyer writes. “The facts that we know already exceed standards for presidential impeachment for obstruction of justice set in 1974 and 1998.”
Kyle, the billionaire democrat is a whinny sore looser like you!
If things are so bad that more and more people are suggesting it is time to start impeachment proceedings, that is way beyond being a sore loser. That is someone trying to save our democracy.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/10/17 07:46 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...kushpmg00000009

One of the Democratic Party’s top donors is urging lawmakers to begin impeachment proceedings for President Donald Trump.

Tom Steyer, the wealthy environmentalist turned super PAC funder, has penned a letter laying out the case that Trump has met the definition of obstruction of justice, and compelling lawmakers to act accordingly.

“The clear and undisputed facts about Mr. Trump’s attempt to impede an FBI investigation demand an immediate impeachment inquiry by the House of Representatives,” Steyer writes. “The facts that we know already exceed standards for presidential impeachment for obstruction of justice set in 1974 and 1998.”
Kyle, the billionaire democrat is a whinny sore looser like you!
If things are so bad that more and more people are suggesting it is time to start impeachment proceedings, that is way beyond being a sore loser. That is someone trying to save our democracy.



Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/11/17 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Oh great reply. Forrest Gump is such a great source of information. LOL
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/11/17 12:30 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-twitter...topstories.html

Former Twitter CEO Dick Costolo apparently isn't a fan of President Trump -- nor his meetings.

In fact, Costolo equates attending one of the president's meetings to physical torture.

In response to a tweet Friday night about an unconfirmed upcoming White House meeting with tech leaders -- similar to the one the president hosted in December -- Costolo wrote, "If you don't get invited to this meeting and want to know what it was like, just drink a bottle of gin and then waterboard yourself."

And in March, Costolo tweeted, "Trump is such a wimp. He cowers from any fight, points fingers in a loss but takes credit for any win. A coward, a loser, a two-bit punk."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/11/17 01:23 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-twitter...topstories.html

Former Twitter CEO Dick Costolo apparently isn't a fan of President Trump -- nor his meetings.

In fact, Costolo equates attending one of the president's meetings to physical torture.

In response to a tweet Friday night about an unconfirmed upcoming White House meeting with tech leaders -- similar to the one the president hosted in December -- Costolo wrote, "If you don't get invited to this meeting and want to know what it was like, just drink a bottle of gin and then waterboard yourself."

And in March, Costolo tweeted, "Trump is such a wimp. He cowers from any fight, points fingers in a loss but takes credit for any win. A coward, a loser, a two-bit punk."
If Costolo was a Russian and said this about Putin he would be in jail or dead. Trumps says Putin is a great leader and smart. Is it that hard to connect the dots?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/11/17 01:27 PM

Has a senator who is the same party as the president ever told the president to "knock it off" with regard to any subject matter? I am sure this has never happened before.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/graham-trump-own-worst-enemy/

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, told President Trump that he is his "own worst enemy" when it comes to tweets that Graham says feed a "lynch mob" mentality in the press.

"All I can say is there's a lynch mob mentality about the Trump administration in the press," Graham said Sunday on CBS News' "Face the Nation." "They're about as fair as a lynch mob. But these tweets that he does feeds that lynch mob. You're your own worst enemy here, Mr. President. Knock it off."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/11/17 01:31 PM

Graham said he sees "no evidence" that the president colluded with the Russians to influence the 2016 election.

"He can't collude with his own government, why do you think he's colluding with the Russians?" Graham said.

But Graham also said Congress will pass a bill this week to "punish" Russia for meddling in American politics and politics across the globe. There is "overwhelming evidence that Russia is trying to destroy democracy here and abroad."

"We're gonna' punish the Russians," Graham said, adding that if the president doesn't sign the bill he would be "betraying democracy."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/11/17 01:36 PM

The UK is supposed to be our strongest ally. This is just so disgusting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...kushpmg00000009

Two senior administration officials told New York Times reporter Glenn Thrush on Sunday that President Donald Trump’s visit to the United Kingdom is currently off the president’s schedule.

That report follows a story in The Guardian that said Trump’s U.K. trip had been put “on hold” after he told British Prime Minister Theresa May he was worried about being met with mass street protests.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/11/17 10:00 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
The UK is supposed to be our strongest ally. This is just so disgusting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...kushpmg00000009

Two senior administration officials told New York Times reporter Glenn Thrush on Sunday that President Donald Trump’s visit to the United Kingdom is currently off the president’s schedule.

That report follows a story in The Guardian that said Trump’s U.K. trip had been put “on hold” after he told British Prime Minister Theresa May he was worried about being met with mass street protests.
That's a real unbiased source of news Kyle! AMERICA FIRST Kyle!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/11/17 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Oh great reply. Forrest Gump is such a great source of information. LOL
Your mother shouldn't talk to you like that Kyle!
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/12/17 12:49 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
The UK is supposed to be our strongest ally. This is just so disgusting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...kushpmg00000009

Two senior administration officials told New York Times reporter Glenn Thrush on Sunday that President Donald Trump’s visit to the United Kingdom is currently off the president’s schedule.

That report follows a story in The Guardian that said Trump’s U.K. trip had been put “on hold” after he told British Prime Minister Theresa May he was worried about being met with mass street protests.
That's a real unbiased source of news Kyle! AMERICA FIRST Kyle!

You can't debate the facts, so, as usual, you attack the source.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/12/17 01:52 AM

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/fmr-prosecutor-this-is-worse-than-watergate-964611651762

Fmr. prosecutor: This is "worse than Watergate"
Former federal prosecutor Cynthia Alksne describes how Trump's damaging statements during a Rose Garden press conference are imperiling his defense against obstruction charges.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/13/17 07:13 AM

Huckabee: NYT Would Find a Way to Hit Trump if He Saved Children from a Fire
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Jun 12, 2017 // 10:40pm
As seen on Hannity

Mike Huckabee slammed "fake news" and media criticisms of President Trump.

Huckabee said that mainstream news outlets slant their coverage in repeated attempts to make the president look bad.

"If Donald Trump ran into a burning building and ran out of that burning building and saved them, the New York Times headline would read "Donald Trump runs from historic structure as it burns to the ground," he said.


Huckabee said the Times has gone from being a "biased media to a corrupt media."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/13/17 04:30 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Huckabee: NYT Would Find a Way to Hit Trump if He Saved Children from a Fire

Jun 12, 2017 // 10:40pm
As seen on Hannity

Mike Huckabee slammed "fake news" and media criticisms of President Trump.

Huckabee said that mainstream news outlets slant their coverage in repeated attempts to make the president look bad.

"If Donald Trump ran into a burning building and ran out of that burning building and saved them, the New York Times headline would read "Donald Trump runs from historic structure as it burns to the ground," he said.

Huckabee said the Times has gone from being a "biased media to a corrupt media."
Never have we had a president who made such outrageous statements as this guy. How do you report real news on an idiot like this?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

Donald Trump boasted Saturday that support for his presidential campaign would not decline even if he shot someone in the middle of a crowded street. "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally here.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/13/17 04:32 PM

How do you report news on a guy like this? Should you sugarcoat it or tell it like it is?

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595321

US presidential candidate Donald Trump has been forced to apologise after a video emerged in which he made obscene comments about women.

In the footage, revealed by the Washington Post, Mr Trump is heard bragging to TV host Billy Bush about trying to have sex with a married woman. The clip, from 2005, was part of unaired footage ahead of Mr Trump's appearance on US soap opera Days of Our Lives.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/13/17 06:16 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sen-...kushpmg00000009

Senator Says Sessions' Excuse For Comey Firing 'Doesn't Pass The Smell Test'
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/13/17 06:18 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Huckabee said that mainstream news outlets slant their coverage in repeated attempts to make the president look bad.
Hell, even Fox News is starting to say things that make him look bad now sometimes.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/13/17 06:38 PM

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...lumn/102402728/

How conservatives betrayed virtue for Donald Trump

In the 1990s, as President Clinton’s scandals unfolded, conservatives insisted that character mattered and worried deeply and often loudly about the toxic effects of our politics on the culture. What message, they asked, were we sending our children?

So, what is the message now?

Consider the problems of raising children in in an era in which our most famous role model is President Trump. As parents, we struggle to teach our children empathy and compassion. We hope to teach them character, humility, impulse control, kindness and good sportsmanship. We want them to learn how to win and lose graciously, treat others with respect, avoiding name-calling, and tell the truth even if it’s inconvenient.

Good luck with that now.

Young people only need to flip the channel to see what success looks like in America today. Whatever we tell them, young people have a keen sense of what traits or behaviors are rewarded and celebrated. They have an acute sense of the hypocrisy of a society that touts virtue but lavishes fame, wealth and power on people who flout them.

Especially for young men still searching for a model of what it means to be a man, Trump’s behavior will carry significant weight. And why not? He may be a bully, a fabulist, a serial insulter and abuser of women, but our alpha-male president is a billionaire, married to a super model, and has been elevated to the most powerful job in the world. That is a powerful symbol because for many young men, Trump is both liberating and revolutionary: freeing them from the demands of civility and what many of them see as overly feminized hypersensitivity.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/13/17 09:18 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Huckabee: NYT Would Find a Way to Hit Trump if He Saved Children from a Fire

Jun 12, 2017 // 10:40pm
As seen on Hannity

Mike Huckabee slammed "fake news" and media criticisms of President Trump.

Huckabee said that mainstream news outlets slant their coverage in repeated attempts to make the president look bad.

"If Donald Trump ran into a burning building and ran out of that burning building and saved them, the New York Times headline would read "Donald Trump runs from historic structure as it burns to the ground," he said.

Huckabee said the Times has gone from being a "biased media to a corrupt media."
Never have we had a president who made such outrageous statements as this guy. How do you report real news on an idiot like this?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

Donald Trump boasted Saturday that support for his presidential campaign would not decline even if he shot someone in the middle of a crowded street. "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally here.
He's not a politician and tells it like it is Kyle! You liberals aren't used to that after Obama!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/14/17 12:24 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
He's not a politician and tells it like it is Kyle! You liberals aren't used to that after Obama!
I know the word politician has a negative connotation. Elected official sounds much better. So Trump is now an elected official. I have never seen an elected official who tells so many lies. I am proud to be a liberal and all of us are horrified of how little he understands about how democracy works. He would sure love to be a dictator like his buddy Putin. I hope he doesn't get the chance to be a dictator in the USA but we have to keep fighting hard to stop that small chance from happening.

Trump has been a dictator his whole life in his big business that he ran like a small business with no board of directors, no shareholders. His word was the law. He could say your fired and you were gone. As Bill Ryan says, he is new at this. Never did I think we would say on-the-job-training for a president!
Posted by: luckyduck

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/14/17 08:00 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
I am proud to be a liberal


House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and Aides SHOT, Lawmaker Asked, “Are Those Republicans or Democrats?”


But yet it's the conservatives who are full of hate?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/14/17 09:15 AM

Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Originally Posted By: kyle585
I am proud to be a liberal


House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and Aides SHOT, Lawmaker Asked, “Are Those Republicans or Democrats?”


But yet it's the conservatives who are full of hate?
Both sides are full of hate. The biggest reason for the hate is Trump promoting violence during the campaign.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/15/17 02:56 PM

Thank you baptists.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/southern-baptist-convention-alt-right/index.html

The Southern Baptist Convention moved to denounce the "alt-right" white nationalist movement Wednesday, a collective decision that occurred only after pastors pushed back against denominational leaders who initially chose not to address the issue.

At their annual meeting, Southern Baptists agreed to a statement decrying "every form of racism, including alt-right white supremacy, as antithetical to the Gospel of Jesus Christ."
Denominational leaders had planned not to vote on a resolution about race relations, but reversed course following an outcry on the floor of the convention the day before. Leaders worked through the night to craft an updated resolution after the original text failed to gain traction on the first day of the convention.

The debate began when Rev. Dwight McKissic, a black pastor from Arlington, Texas, called on Southern Baptists to formally condemn the movement's "retrograde ideologies, xenophobic biases, and racial bigotries" and re-affirm its opposition to racism in the aftermath of a presidential election that saw the rise of a small movement of nationalist and white supremacists that coalesced in support of President Donald Trump.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/16/17 09:13 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com

Trump said foreign leaders wouldn’t laugh at the U.S. Now they’re laughing at him.

The Australian prime minister’s imitation of “The Donald” is the latest sign that heads of state are not afraid to make jokes at the U.S. president’s expense.

By David Nakamura and Anne Gearan
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/18/17 10:56 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

epublicans say they are turning down job offers to work for a chief executive whose volatile temperament makes them nervous, and they’re asking head-hunters if their reputations could suffer permanent damage.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/18/17 04:27 PM

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/18/gingrich-trump-twitter-combative-239680

Newt Gingrich says Donald Trump’s signature “pugnacious” style and “compulsion to counterattack” isn’t always the best tactic to employ as president.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/18/17 08:31 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/18/gingrich-trump-twitter-combative-239680

Newt Gingrich says Donald Trump’s signature “pugnacious” style and “compulsion to counterattack” isn’t always the best tactic to employ as president.
That's what's good about him! Not a butt kisser like Obama!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 02:38 AM

THIS GUY REALLY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD REGARDING TRUMP. VERY SCARY INDEED.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/neil-buchanan-trump-naive-stupid-140850746.html

Evil? Or All of the Above?
Neil H. Buchanan,Newsweek 17 hours ago

Donald Trump is wrong almost all of the time about almost everything.

He lies constantly, and even though he is constantly being caught in his transparent lies, he never admits error, pressing ever forward on his destructive path.

Does he do this because he knows nothing about the world? (That is, is he naive ?)

Alternatively, maybe it is because he is incapable of logical thinking. (Is he stupid ?)

Or is it instead because he has horrible policy goals? (Is he evil ?)

All three of those explanations fit, and then some. As Michael Dorf argued in a recent column, normal human beings can be "evil, stupid, or ignorant," but "Trump is not a normal human being. He is not even a normal but evil, stupid, or ignorant human being. Trump is Trump."

In order to understand how Trump is different, we first need to understand what it means to be normal yet wrong in one of those three ways —naive, stupid, or evil. Because those three categories should be sufficient to explain every bad decision, it is important to understand how Trump is a category unto himself.

*****************************************************

Many of us do hold out some hope every day that even some of Trump's closest advisors will say, "I can't do this anymore. I tried to deny to myself what was happening, but this is too much." It is safe to say that that will not happen with Steve Bannon or some others, but some people have said that even hard-core Trumpists like Kellyanne Conway might harbor doubts.

But Trump? Not a chance. He is ignorant, both as a matter of never having learned anything and because he likes it that way. He is stupid, usually not even bothering to make an argument, but making incoherent arguments when he tries. (We will, he says, just start winning again, somehow.) His goals are racist, sexist, and in other ways bigoted, and he is corrupt to boot.

What are we to think when we learn that Trump does not care about whether the Russian government is undermining American democracy? He only cares about whether he will look bad and lose power if the truth comes out.

"Trump is naive, stupid, and evil" simply does not cover it. Trump is Trump, and heaven help us all.

Neil H. Buchanan is an economist and legal scholar and a professor of law at George Washington University . He teaches tax law, tax policy, contracts, and law and economics. His research addresses the long-term tax and spending patterns of the federal government, focusing on budget deficits, the national debt, health care costs and Social Security.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 08:41 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
THIS GUY REALLY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD REGARDING TRUMP. VERY SCARY INDEED.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/neil-buchanan-trump-naive-stupid-140850746.html

Evil? Or All of the Above?
Neil H. Buchanan,Newsweek 17 hours ago

Donald Trump is wrong almost all of the time about almost everything.

He lies constantly, and even though he is constantly being caught in his transparent lies, he never admits error, pressing ever forward on his destructive path.

Does he do this because he knows nothing about the world? (That is, is he naive ?)

Alternatively, maybe it is because he is incapable of logical thinking. (Is he stupid ?)

Or is it instead because he has horrible policy goals? (Is he evil ?)

All three of those explanations fit, and then some. As Michael Dorf argued in a recent column, normal human beings can be "evil, stupid, or ignorant," but "Trump is not a normal human being. He is not even a normal but evil, stupid, or ignorant human being. Trump is Trump."

In order to understand how Trump is different, we first need to understand what it means to be normal yet wrong in one of those three ways —naive, stupid, or evil. Because those three categories should be sufficient to explain every bad decision, it is important to understand how Trump is a category unto himself.

*****************************************************

Many of us do hold out some hope every day that even some of Trump's closest advisors will say, "I can't do this anymore. I tried to deny to myself what was happening, but this is too much." It is safe to say that that will not happen with Steve Bannon or some others, but some people have said that even hard-core Trumpists like Kellyanne Conway might harbor doubts.

But Trump? Not a chance. He is ignorant, both as a matter of never having learned anything and because he likes it that way. He is stupid, usually not even bothering to make an argument, but making incoherent arguments when he tries. (We will, he says, just start winning again, somehow.) His goals are racist, sexist, and in other ways bigoted, and he is corrupt to boot.

What are we to think when we learn that Trump does not care about whether the Russian government is undermining American democracy? He only cares about whether he will look bad and lose power if the truth comes out.

"Trump is naive, stupid, and evil" simply does not cover it. Trump is Trump, and heaven help us all.

Neil H. Buchanan is an economist and legal scholar and a professor of law at George Washington University . He teaches tax law, tax policy, contracts, and law and economics. His research addresses the long-term tax and spending patterns of the federal government, focusing on budget deficits, the national debt, health care costs and Social Security.
You really do need to get a job or a hobby Kyle! Your cut & pastes are making you look like a fool! First it was the landfill and now Trump! What's the next endeavor? What happened to all your liberal buddies like Timbo the Bimbo? LOL! They all have abandoned you! Doesn't that tell you something?
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 10:45 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
THIS GUY REALLY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD REGARDING TRUMP. VERY SCARY INDEED.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/neil-buchanan-trump-naive-stupid-140850746.html

Evil? Or All of the Above?
Neil H. Buchanan,Newsweek 17 hours ago

Donald Trump is wrong almost all of the time about almost everything.

He lies constantly, and even though he is constantly being caught in his transparent lies, he never admits error, pressing ever forward on his destructive path.

Does he do this because he knows nothing about the world? (That is, is he naive ?)

Alternatively, maybe it is because he is incapable of logical thinking. (Is he stupid ?)

Or is it instead because he has horrible policy goals? (Is he evil ?)

All three of those explanations fit, and then some. As Michael Dorf argued in a recent column, normal human beings can be "evil, stupid, or ignorant," but "Trump is not a normal human being. He is not even a normal but evil, stupid, or ignorant human being. Trump is Trump."

In order to understand how Trump is different, we first need to understand what it means to be normal yet wrong in one of those three ways —naive, stupid, or evil. Because those three categories should be sufficient to explain every bad decision, it is important to understand how Trump is a category unto himself.

*****************************************************

Many of us do hold out some hope every day that even some of Trump's closest advisors will say, "I can't do this anymore. I tried to deny to myself what was happening, but this is too much." It is safe to say that that will not happen with Steve Bannon or some others, but some people have said that even hard-core Trumpists like Kellyanne Conway might harbor doubts.

But Trump? Not a chance. He is ignorant, both as a matter of never having learned anything and because he likes it that way. He is stupid, usually not even bothering to make an argument, but making incoherent arguments when he tries. (We will, he says, just start winning again, somehow.) His goals are racist, sexist, and in other ways bigoted, and he is corrupt to boot.

What are we to think when we learn that Trump does not care about whether the Russian government is undermining American democracy? He only cares about whether he will look bad and lose power if the truth comes out.

"Trump is naive, stupid, and evil" simply does not cover it. Trump is Trump, and heaven help us all.

Neil H. Buchanan is an economist and legal scholar and a professor of law at George Washington University . He teaches tax law, tax policy, contracts, and law and economics. His research addresses the long-term tax and spending patterns of the federal government, focusing on budget deficits, the national debt, health care costs and Social Security.
You really do need to get a job or a hobby Kyle! Your cut & pastes are making you look like a fool! First it was the landfill and now Trump! What's the next endeavor? What happened to all your liberal buddies like Timbo the Bimbo? LOL! They all have abandoned you! Doesn't that tell you something?


Funny that the only one with an ugly mood is Kyle
Oh and the wacko left
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 11:25 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
THIS GUY REALLY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD REGARDING TRUMP. VERY SCARY INDEED.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/neil-buchanan-trump-naive-stupid-140850746.html

Evil? Or All of the Above?
Neil H. Buchanan,Newsweek 17 hours ago

Donald Trump is wrong almost all of the time about almost everything.

He lies constantly, and even though he is constantly being caught in his transparent lies, he never admits error, pressing ever forward on his destructive path.

Does he do this because he knows nothing about the world? (That is, is he naive ?)

Alternatively, maybe it is because he is incapable of logical thinking. (Is he stupid ?)

Or is it instead because he has horrible policy goals? (Is he evil ?)

All three of those explanations fit, and then some. As Michael Dorf argued in a recent column, normal human beings can be "evil, stupid, or ignorant," but "Trump is not a normal human being. He is not even a normal but evil, stupid, or ignorant human being. Trump is Trump."

In order to understand how Trump is different, we first need to understand what it means to be normal yet wrong in one of those three ways —naive, stupid, or evil. Because those three categories should be sufficient to explain every bad decision, it is important to understand how Trump is a category unto himself.

*****************************************************

Many of us do hold out some hope every day that even some of Trump's closest advisors will say, "I can't do this anymore. I tried to deny to myself what was happening, but this is too much." It is safe to say that that will not happen with Steve Bannon or some others, but some people have said that even hard-core Trumpists like Kellyanne Conway might harbor doubts.

But Trump? Not a chance. He is ignorant, both as a matter of never having learned anything and because he likes it that way. He is stupid, usually not even bothering to make an argument, but making incoherent arguments when he tries. (We will, he says, just start winning again, somehow.) His goals are racist, sexist, and in other ways bigoted, and he is corrupt to boot.

What are we to think when we learn that Trump does not care about whether the Russian government is undermining American democracy? He only cares about whether he will look bad and lose power if the truth comes out.

"Trump is naive, stupid, and evil" simply does not cover it. Trump is Trump, and heaven help us all.

Neil H. Buchanan is an economist and legal scholar and a professor of law at George Washington University . He teaches tax law, tax policy, contracts, and law and economics. His research addresses the long-term tax and spending patterns of the federal government, focusing on budget deficits, the national debt, health care costs and Social Security.
You really do need to get a job or a hobby Kyle! Your cut & pastes are making you look like a fool! First it was the landfill and now Trump! What's the next endeavor? What happened to all your liberal buddies like Timbo the Bimbo? LOL! They all have abandoned you! Doesn't that tell you something?


Funny that the only one with an ugly mood is Kyle
Oh and the wacko left


I'll have to agree with gassy one, Kyle needs a hobby, and whining isn't a hobby.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 11:56 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
You really do need to get a job or a hobby Kyle! Your cut & pastes are making you look like a fool!
LOL MY cut and pastes show that most people agree with me! You can't do cut and pastes because no one agrees with you! You are so jealous aren't you?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 03:27 PM

Republicans only tell the truth when they leave. Cowards

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jaso...kushpmg00000009


Jason Chaffetz Slams Donald Trump And Jeff Sessions As He Leaves Congress

Outgoing lawmaker says Trump administration is “almost worse” than Obama.
By Ed Mazza

With just two weeks left in office, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) took some shots at President Donald Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions in an interview that aired over the weekend.

“The reality is, sadly, I don’t see much difference between the Trump administration and the (Barack) Obama administration,” the outgoing chairman of the House Oversight Committee told Sinclair Broadcast Group.

Chaffetz, who announced his resignation last month, said he thought the “floodgates” would open and his committee would obtain documents that the Obama administration never provided related to investigations into Hillary Clinton, Fast and Furious and the IRS.

That didn’t happen.

Chaffetz said:

“In many ways, it’s almost worse because we’re getting nothing, and that’s terribly frustrating and, with all due respect, the attorney general has not changed at all. I find him to be worse than what I saw with Loretta Lynch in terms of releasing documents and making things available. I just, that’s my experience, and that’s not what I expected.”

Chaffetz also said Republicans had been pushing Trump to fire IRS Commissioner John Koskinen over a scandal involving allegations that the agency targeted tea party groups for audits.

That hasn’t happened either.

“We tried to issue subpoenas. We tried to hold people in contempt and the Obama administration said ‘no,’ and the Trump administration came in and did zero,” Chaffetz said. “Nothing. Nothing changed.”
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Republicans only tell the truth when they leave. Cowards

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jaso...kushpmg00000009


Jason Chaffetz Slams Donald Trump And Jeff Sessions As He Leaves Congress

Outgoing lawmaker says Trump administration is “almost worse” than Obama.
By Ed Mazza

With just two weeks left in office, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) took some shots at President Donald Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions in an interview that aired over the weekend.

“The reality is, sadly, I don’t see much difference between the Trump administration and the (Barack) Obama administration,” the outgoing chairman of the House Oversight Committee told Sinclair Broadcast Group.

Chaffetz, who announced his resignation last month, said he thought the “floodgates” would open and his committee would obtain documents that the Obama administration never provided related to investigations into Hillary Clinton, Fast and Furious and the IRS.

That didn’t happen.

Chaffetz said:

“In many ways, it’s almost worse because we’re getting nothing, and that’s terribly frustrating and, with all due respect, the attorney general has not changed at all. I find him to be worse than what I saw with Loretta Lynch in terms of releasing documents and making things available. I just, that’s my experience, and that’s not what I expected.”

Chaffetz also said Republicans had been pushing Trump to fire IRS Commissioner John Koskinen over a scandal involving allegations that the agency targeted tea party groups for audits.

That hasn’t happened either.

“We tried to issue subpoenas. We tried to hold people in contempt and the Obama administration said ‘no,’ and the Trump administration came in and did zero,” Chaffetz said. “Nothing. Nothing changed.”



Quote:
“Nothing. Nothing changed.”


So, I don't understand why you're complaining, it would have been the same with Hillary.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 04:38 PM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Republicans only tell the truth when they leave. Cowards
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jaso...kushpmg00000009
Jason Chaffetz Slams Donald Trump And Jeff Sessions As He Leaves Congress
Outgoing lawmaker says Trump administration is “almost worse” than Obama. By Ed Mazza
With just two weeks left in office, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) took some shots at President Donald Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions in an interview that aired over the weekend. “The reality is, sadly, I don’t see much difference between the Trump administration and the (Barack) Obama administration,” the outgoing chairman of the House Oversight Committee told Sinclair Broadcast Group. Chaffetz, who announced his resignation last month, said he thought the “floodgates” would open and his committee would obtain documents that the Obama administration never provided related to investigations into Hillary Clinton, Fast and Furious and the IRS. That didn’t happen. Chaffetz said:
“In many ways, it’s almost worse because we’re getting nothing, and that’s terribly frustrating and, with all due respect, the attorney general has not changed at all. I find him to be worse than what I saw with Loretta Lynch in terms of releasing documents and making things available. I just, that’s my experience, and that’s not what I expected.” Chaffetz also said Republicans had been pushing Trump to fire IRS Commissioner John Koskinen over a scandal involving allegations that the agency targeted tea party groups for audits. That hasn’t happened either. “We tried to issue subpoenas. We tried to hold people in contempt and the Obama administration said ‘no,’ and the Trump administration came in and did zero,” Chaffetz said. “Nothing. Nothing changed.”
Quote:
“Nothing. Nothing changed.”
So, I don't understand why you're complaining, it would have been the same with Hillary.
So you are admitting that nothing changed under Trump? Drain the swamp is not going to happen?
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 05:07 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Republicans only tell the truth when they leave. Cowards
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jaso...kushpmg00000009
Jason Chaffetz Slams Donald Trump And Jeff Sessions As He Leaves Congress
Outgoing lawmaker says Trump administration is “almost worse” than Obama. By Ed Mazza
With just two weeks left in office, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) took some shots at President Donald Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions in an interview that aired over the weekend. “The reality is, sadly, I don’t see much difference between the Trump administration and the (Barack) Obama administration,” the outgoing chairman of the House Oversight Committee told Sinclair Broadcast Group. Chaffetz, who announced his resignation last month, said he thought the “floodgates” would open and his committee would obtain documents that the Obama administration never provided related to investigations into Hillary Clinton, Fast and Furious and the IRS. That didn’t happen. Chaffetz said:
“In many ways, it’s almost worse because we’re getting nothing, and that’s terribly frustrating and, with all due respect, the attorney general has not changed at all. I find him to be worse than what I saw with Loretta Lynch in terms of releasing documents and making things available. I just, that’s my experience, and that’s not what I expected.” Chaffetz also said Republicans had been pushing Trump to fire IRS Commissioner John Koskinen over a scandal involving allegations that the agency targeted tea party groups for audits. That hasn’t happened either. “We tried to issue subpoenas. We tried to hold people in contempt and the Obama administration said ‘no,’ and the Trump administration came in and did zero,” Chaffetz said. “Nothing. Nothing changed.”
Quote:
“Nothing. Nothing changed.”
So, I don't understand why you're complaining, it would have been the same with Hillary.
So you are admitting that nothing changed under Trump? Drain the swamp is not going to happen?


I'll admit, you whine to see yourself whine, and your a sore loser.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 05:49 PM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
I'll admit, you whine to see yourself whine, and your a sore loser.
Trapped you didn't I? You can't answer a simple straight forward question.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 06:29 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
I'll admit, you whine to see yourself whine, and your a sore loser.
Trapped you didn't I? You can't answer a simple straight forward question.

Yeah, you trapped me, and you're still a sore loser.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 07:24 PM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
I'll admit, you whine to see yourself whine, and your a sore loser.
Trapped you didn't I? You can't answer a simple straight forward question.

Yeah, you trapped me, and you're still a sore loser.
You have nothing else to say. How sad.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/19/17 10:13 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
I'll admit, you whine to see yourself whine, and your a sore loser.
Trapped you didn't I? You can't answer a simple straight forward question.

Yeah, you trapped me, and you're still a sore loser.
You have nothing else to say. You have nothing else to say. How sad.



Quote:
"You have nothing else to say."




Oh, please don't worry Kyle, I've got a lot to say.

Quote:
How sad.


Yeah, it's sad that you never leaned how to lose with dignity...sore loser!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/20/17 02:54 AM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
I'll admit, you whine to see yourself whine, and your a sore loser.
Trapped you didn't I? You can't answer a simple straight forward question.
Yeah, you trapped me, and you're still a sore loser.
You have nothing else to say. You have nothing else to say. How sad.
Quote:
"You have nothing else to say."
Oh, please don't worry Kyle, I've got a lot to say.
Quote:
How sad.
Yeah, it's sad that you never leaned how to lose with dignity...sore loser!
"We Have Only Just Begun to Fight" Franklin Roosevelt October 31, 1936
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/20/17 02:55 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Yeah, it's sad that you never leaned how to lose with dignity...sore loser!

"We Have Only Just Begun to Fight"
Franklin Roosevelt
October 31, 1936
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/20/17 02:49 PM



Helping Kyle out, because he is obviously flailing.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/20/17 03:00 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga

Helping Kyle out, because he is obviously flailing.
Wow. Now I see why you are so highly educated.
Posted by: Teonan

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/20/17 03:14 PM


Originally Posted By: kyle585
Wow. Now I see why you are so highly educated.


No need to flatter the ol' Ivy Leaguer. grin
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/20/17 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Wow. Now I see why you are so highly educated.


No need to flatter the ol' Ivy Leaguer. grin
Kyle has no clue so that makes two of you!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/22/17 02:11 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-flynn-talking-game-changed-171704352.html

If Michael Flynn Is Talking, the Game Has Changed

A couple of Democratic senators from New England's beachfront properties-Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island and Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut-have come right up to the edge of saying what a great number of people have suspected for a while: Namely, that Michael Flynn, the former national security adviser and probably the worst executive branch hire since Albert Fall, has begun to sing sweet, sweet melodies to various investigators. If these two guys are right, then that would explain why everybody in the White House, except (possibly) the gardeners, are scrambling for lawyers. If these two guys are right, then the threat level on all things Russia (and, perhaps, all things Turkey as well) just went into the red zone.

There is more than enough reason to believe that Flynn holds the keys to the kingdom. The president* went to great lengths to keep him around and, when that fell through, he went to great lengths to keep in touch with Flynn, at least for a while. And the leverage the FBI or Whoever has on him keeps getting ratcheted up. Moreover, if you read down through that ABC News story, you discover that Flynn attached himself to a completely harebrained scheme to develop some sort of US-Russia private partnership arrangement concerning nuclear power in precisely the worst place in the world to have loose nuclear fuel lying around.

Lawmakers believe [Flynn's] travels were related to a proposed U.S.-Russian partnership that would have been financed by Saudi Arabia to build, operate and secure dozens of nuclear reactors throughout the Middle East, the details of which were outlined by internal company memos first published by Newsweek. Flynn was reportedly tasked with developing a security strategy for the network of reactors and calming the concerns of uneasy U.S. allies in the region, such as Israel and Egypt. While proponents touted the potential security benefits of the arrangement, particularly the opportunity to secure radioactive waste that could be used to make nuclear bombs, there is evidence to suggest that U.S. entities might have been pursuing a more self-interested agenda. Designers of the venture, Newsweek reported, sought not only to jump-start the sputtering U.S. nuclear industry but also to drive a wedge between Russia and Iran, two powerful impediments to U.S. interests in the Middle East.

This guy has some stories to tell, certainly.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/22/17 01:54 PM

Trump is nothing but a lying intimating bully. He is making us the laughing stock of the whole world. I can't see how his favorable rating is over 1.0%.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/trump-comey-tapes-no-recordings/index.html

President Donald Trump did not record his conversations with fired FBI Director James Comey, he tweeted on Thursday, ending weeks of speculation kick-started by the President himself.

"With all of the recently reported electronic surveillance, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of information, I have no idea whether there are 'tapes' or recordings of my conversations with James Comey, but I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings," Trump tweeted.

The statement ended speculation about whether the President recorded conversations in the Oval Office. Comey, who Trump fired last month, said he had hoped there were recordings of their conversations.

Trump and his top aides have played coy for weeks about the possibility of White House tapes, treating their possible existence like a game show reveal.

But the tweet had serious repercussions for the President: The fired FBI director testified earlier this month that Trump's message caused him to leak the bombshell content of a memo to the media through a professor at Columbia University.

A senior administration official said Thursday that it became clear Trump had to come clean on his lie about the Comey tapes before the Friday deadline set on him by Congress to hand over any recordings.

The official, along with a Republican who talked to Trump this week, said the President has been amused at all the obsessing over this.

In hindsight, however, the Republican close to Trump called the episode one of worst things the President has done, with fallout that led to the appointment of a special counsel.


"If he doesn't regret this, he should," said the Republican associate, who spoke to Trump this week


Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 06/22/17 02:01 PM

From Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/22/breaking-news-trump-says-did-not-tape-conversations.html

President Trump tweeted on Thursday "I did not make, and do not have" any recordings of conversations with ex-FBI Director James Comey, ending speculation -- that he started -- about whether he had taped private talks with the since-fired Comey.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/04/17 10:13 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
From Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/22/breaking-news-trump-says-did-not-tape-conversations.html

President Trump tweeted on Thursday "I did not make, and do not have" any recordings of conversations with ex-FBI Director James Comey, ending speculation -- that he started -- about whether he had taped private talks with the since-fired Comey.

You DEMS sucked that right up! LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/05/17 12:57 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
From Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/22/breaking-news-trump-says-did-not-tape-conversations.html

President Trump tweeted on Thursday "I did not make, and do not have" any recordings of conversations with ex-FBI Director James Comey, ending speculation -- that he started -- about whether he had taped private talks with the since-fired Comey.

You DEMS sucked that right up! LOL!
You are beyond pathetic. You apparently have no clue of where all of this is headed.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/05/17 08:52 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
From Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/22/breaking-news-trump-says-did-not-tape-conversations.html

President Trump tweeted on Thursday "I did not make, and do not have" any recordings of conversations with ex-FBI Director James Comey, ending speculation -- that he started -- about whether he had taped private talks with the since-fired Comey.

You DEMS sucked that right up! LOL!
You are beyond pathetic. You apparently have no clue of where all of this is headed.
Yes I do! NOWHERE!
Posted by: Teonan

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/05/17 09:13 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
From Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/22/breaking-news-trump-says-did-not-tape-conversations.html

President Trump tweeted on Thursday "I did not make, and do not have" any recordings of conversations with ex-FBI Director James Comey, ending speculation -- that he started -- about whether he had taped private talks with the since-fired Comey.

You DEMS sucked that right up! LOL!
You are beyond pathetic. You apparently have no clue of where all of this is headed.


Face it Kyle. Gassy is just another delusional man-child. Incorrigible.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/05/17 09:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
From Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/22/breaking-news-trump-says-did-not-tape-conversations.html

President Trump tweeted on Thursday "I did not make, and do not have" any recordings of conversations with ex-FBI Director James Comey, ending speculation -- that he started -- about whether he had taped private talks with the since-fired Comey.

You DEMS sucked that right up! LOL!
You are beyond pathetic. You apparently have no clue of where all of this is headed.


Face it Kyle. Gassy is just another delusional man-child. Incorrigible.


You really don't know do you, Ted!?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/05/17 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
From Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/22/breaking-news-trump-says-did-not-tape-conversations.html

President Trump tweeted on Thursday "I did not make, and do not have" any recordings of conversations with ex-FBI Director James Comey, ending speculation -- that he started -- about whether he had taped private talks with the since-fired Comey.

You DEMS sucked that right up! LOL!
You are beyond pathetic. You apparently have no clue of where all of this is headed.
Face it Kyle. Gassy is just another delusional man-child. Incorrigible.
I know. Him and Trump are two of a kind. It is just so hard to let him think he is getting away with something even on this tiny forum.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/05/17 05:41 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
From Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/22/breaking-news-trump-says-did-not-tape-conversations.html

President Trump tweeted on Thursday "I did not make, and do not have" any recordings of conversations with ex-FBI Director James Comey, ending speculation -- that he started -- about whether he had taped private talks with the since-fired Comey.

You DEMS sucked that right up! LOL!
You are beyond pathetic. You apparently have no clue of where all of this is headed.
Face it Kyle. Gassy is just another delusional man-child. Incorrigible.
I know. Him and Trump are two of a kind. It is just so hard to let him think he is getting away with something even on this tiny forum.



Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/12/17 09:50 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dona...kushpmg00000009

Conservative author Quin Hillyer wrote in a blog post that Trump should step down for cozying up to Russia. (here)

http://quinhillyer.com/trump-should-resign/#Jy2CXK5SL8usleR6.99

11 July 2017

President Donald Trump must resign.

This is not a matter of whether he personally did or did not commit a punishable crime. This is a matter of a president being hopelessly compromised because his own longstanding and weird advocacy of Russian interests, in combination with the now irrefutable proof that his closest family members and campaign chief deliberately took a meeting advertised as “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump,” and in combination with Trump firing an FBI director specifically (in Trump’s own words) because Trump was upset with the director’s conduct of the Russia probe.

This is a president whose conduct vis-a-vis the single most dangerous nation (in terms of nuclear weapons capability plus hostility toward American interests around the globe) will now be forever under a cloud. The American people absolutely cannot trust Trump’s objectivity about Russian intentions and Russian actions.

It doesn’t matter what ended up coming from the meeting. Trump Jr accepted the meeting under the impression that this was a “Russian government attorney” working as part of the “Russian government’s” attempt to help his father’s campaign. This was precisely at a time when the Trump campaign already had been coming under public attack for the elder Trump’s repeated defenses of Vladimir Putin and when rumors already were flying all over the place about “Russia-Trump connections.”

And this is from a family which for 30 years had sought business in Russia and which at least since 2008 had, according to Trump Jr., been in a situation in which “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.” And that’s just a sampling of the strange and longstanding Trump dealings with shady Russian interests.

Read more at http://quinhillyer.com/trump-should-resign/#qljG9edk2mfW7k0V.99

This is an utterly untenable situation. For the good of the country, Trump must lance the boil, and resign.

To repeat: The entire Trump camp is hopelessly compromised vis-a-vis Russia, at the very least in terms of the ability to engender public trust. This is bad for the country.
Trump must resign. Trump must resign. Trump must resign.


Note: A longer version of this piece, with a much fuller explanation of why Trump should resign for the good of the country, ran here at PJ Media.

Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/12/17 04:45 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/12/politics/trump-white-house-mood/index.html

If Washington is currently a dark place for President Donald Trump, a stop in the City of Light may prove well-timed.

"The White House is paralyzed," a top Republican close to the West Wing told CNN ahead of Trump's departure to Paris, a withering assessment of an administration whose goals of passing a health care bill, overhauling the tax code and defeating ISIS have been complicated once again.

"Another week lost," is how one official described the legislative timeline for Trump and Republicans, an acknowledgment that the latest swirl of Russia developments complicate an already imperiled agenda.

Escaping what advisers, aides, and other Republicans describe as a White House rattled by Russia bombshells, Trump will find himself here instead embraced by Gallic splendor. He accepted an invitation from the new French president, Emmanuel Macron, to be on hand for Bastille Day, the national holiday that commemorates the start of the French Revolution.

The Paris trip is at least a momentary respite from his current predicament in the United States: embattled against accusations prompted by his oldest son's meeting with a Russian lawyer and surrounded by lawyers and aides urging him to remain quiet.
Back home, Trump faces a deepening crisis over that meeting, which has jolted the White House and moved the Russian meddling controversy directly into Trump's inner circle.

The President approached the news about Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting through the same lens he approaches everything with the word Russia in it, according to another person who has spoken with him: as an effort by his enemies and the media to discredit him and his presidency.

Privately, Trump has expressed dismay that Trump Jr. agreed to meet with the Russian lawyer, according to a Republican source, who said the President believes it wasn't a smart move -- but also that his son did not run afoul of the law.
Trump, the Republican source said, is annoyed that the narrative surrounding the meeting has become a distraction from what he and his advisers saw as a successful overseas trip last week to Poland and Germany.

Ahead of his departure for Paris, Trump spent much of his time watching television and huddled with top advisers, according to two administration officials. He barely left the Oval Office. And his mood ranged from furious to frustrated, but also defiant.

A day earlier, he received some degree of solace during a visit from evangelical leaders. A photo from the session inside the Oval Office showed a huddle forming around the entrenched President, hands resting on his shoulders as his head bows in prayer.

"Trump has not surrounded himself with good, strong, smart political operatives," said one source close to the White House. As for the kids and Kushner, "these guys have gone from never playing the game to walking into the major leagues, and they make mistakes all the time," the Republican source said.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/12/17 09:37 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dona...kushpmg00000009

Conservative author Quin Hillyer wrote in a blog post that Trump should step down for cozying up to Russia. (here)

http://quinhillyer.com/trump-should-resign/#Jy2CXK5SL8usleR6.99

11 July 2017

President Donald Trump must resign.

This is not a matter of whether he personally did or did not commit a punishable crime. This is a matter of a president being hopelessly compromised because his own longstanding and weird advocacy of Russian interests, in combination with the now irrefutable proof that his closest family members and campaign chief deliberately took a meeting advertised as “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump,” and in combination with Trump firing an FBI director specifically (in Trump’s own words) because Trump was upset with the director’s conduct of the Russia probe.

This is a president whose conduct vis-a-vis the single most dangerous nation (in terms of nuclear weapons capability plus hostility toward American interests around the globe) will now be forever under a cloud. The American people absolutely cannot trust Trump’s objectivity about Russian intentions and Russian actions.

It doesn’t matter what ended up coming from the meeting. Trump Jr accepted the meeting under the impression that this was a “Russian government attorney” working as part of the “Russian government’s” attempt to help his father’s campaign. This was precisely at a time when the Trump campaign already had been coming under public attack for the elder Trump’s repeated defenses of Vladimir Putin and when rumors already were flying all over the place about “Russia-Trump connections.”

And this is from a family which for 30 years had sought business in Russia and which at least since 2008 had, according to Trump Jr., been in a situation in which “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.” And that’s just a sampling of the strange and longstanding Trump dealings with shady Russian interests.

Read more at http://quinhillyer.com/trump-should-resign/#qljG9edk2mfW7k0V.99

This is an utterly untenable situation. For the good of the country, Trump must lance the boil, and resign.

To repeat: The entire Trump camp is hopelessly compromised vis-a-vis Russia, at the very least in terms of the ability to engender public trust. This is bad for the country.
Trump must resign. Trump must resign. Trump must resign.


Note: A longer version of this piece, with a much fuller explanation of why Trump should resign for the good of the country, ran here at PJ Media.

He will never resign Kyle! He's a fighter!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/13/17 03:07 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
He will never resign Kyle! He's a fighter!
He has spent his entire being a bully and fighter in the rough and tough real estate business. That is completely different than the kind of fight he is in now. And he had no idea how to do it in politics. His type of bullying doesn't work here.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/team-trump-hunts-for-traitors-while-the-president-growls-at-the-tv

“The W.H. is functioning perfectly, focused on HealthCare, Tax Cuts/Reform & many other things. I have very little time for watching T.V.” @realDonaldTrump tweeted on Wednesday morning, just a half-hour after a Washington Post reporter said on MSNBC that Trump has been watching a lot of television coverage of the scandal over the past few days.

The president’s suggestion that he is not current absorbing all that much TV these days contradicts what several White House sources have noted about Trump’s regular television consumption habits: Mainly, that ever since taking office, the 45th president of the United States spends way too much time watching cable news—Fox News, naturally, being a favored, and friendly, network—and obsessing over coverage and media personalities.

Officials reached by The Daily Beast spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not cleared to discuss the president’s TV hate-watching habits, or internal West Wing strife.

As other news outlets have noted as well, President Trump has a tendency to also yell at his TV screens in the White House, and scowl and angrily comment as he watches news segments he finds disagreeable.

This is especially true with Trump-Russia stories. When asked if the president was still hissing at the TV this week over the televised Trump Jr. coverage, one White House official confirmed that the president was still taking out his Russia-related frustrations on an inanimate object while bitterly watching the news.

“Yes,” the aide replied. “Very much…Growling.”
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/13/17 08:36 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
He will never resign Kyle! He's a fighter!
He has spent his entire being a bully and fighter in the rough and tough real estate business. That is completely different than the kind of fight he is in now. And he had no idea how to do it in politics. His type of bullying doesn't work here.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/team-trump-hunts-for-traitors-while-the-president-growls-at-the-tv

“The W.H. is functioning perfectly, focused on HealthCare, Tax Cuts/Reform & many other things. I have very little time for watching T.V.” @realDonaldTrump tweeted on Wednesday morning, just a half-hour after a Washington Post reporter said on MSNBC that Trump has been watching a lot of television coverage of the scandal over the past few days.

The president’s suggestion that he is not current absorbing all that much TV these days contradicts what several White House sources have noted about Trump’s regular television consumption habits: Mainly, that ever since taking office, the 45th president of the United States spends way too much time watching cable news—Fox News, naturally, being a favored, and friendly, network—and obsessing over coverage and media personalities.

Officials reached by The Daily Beast spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not cleared to discuss the president’s TV hate-watching habits, or internal West Wing strife.

As other news outlets have noted as well, President Trump has a tendency to also yell at his TV screens in the White House, and scowl and angrily comment as he watches news segments he finds disagreeable.

This is especially true with Trump-Russia stories. When asked if the president was still hissing at the TV this week over the televised Trump Jr. coverage, one White House official confirmed that the president was still taking out his Russia-related frustrations on an inanimate object while bitterly watching the news.

“Yes,” the aide replied. “Very much…Growling.”
Don't want a politician in there! Want somebody like Trump who cares about the country instead of themselves or political party!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/13/17 02:15 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Don't want a politician in there! Want somebody like Trump who cares about the country instead of themselves or political party!
I would have no trouble with a businessman in there rather than a life-long politician. But this businessman was not a CEO who had to answer to a board of directors or to stockholders. He was just a bully who only knew one thing and that is he could fire whoever did not agree with him. He only cares about himself, and maybe his best buddy Putin.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/14/17 10:54 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Don't want a politician in there! Want somebody like Trump who cares about the country instead of themselves or political party!
I would have no trouble with a businessman in there rather than a life-long politician. But this businessman was not a CEO who had to answer to a board of directors or to stockholders. He was just a bully who only knew one thing and that is he could fire whoever did not agree with him. He only cares about himself, and maybe his best buddy Putin.
He is trying to more for this country than Obama ever did! He is getting rid of illegals and not letting countries run over us like Obama did! AMERICA FIRST KYLE!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/15/17 11:50 AM

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...ng-about-215381

President Donald Trump dismissed concerns about his eldest son’s meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer and a former Soviet spy promising dirt on Hillary Clinton with a wave of his hand. “It’s called opposition research,” he said at a news conference in Paris on Thursday. A day earlier, the president had asserted, “I think many people would have held that meeting.”

As a professional opposition researcher who has been doing it for over a decade, I know nothing is farther from the truth.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/15/17 06:33 PM

How much will it cost to keep Trump Jr and Sr out of jail?

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/15/trump-campaign-paid-jr-attorney-240592

President Donald Trump appears to have used more than half a million dollars in campaign funds to pay legal fees over the last three months, new campaign filings show.

The spending included $50,000 in legal expenses to lawyer Alan Futerfas, who is now representing Donald Trump Jr., on June 27th.

Trump disclosed $677,826 in payments described in filings as “legal consulting” between April and June of 2017 – a significant chunk of the $4.37 million his campaign spent overall – as the number and velocity of investigations into potential Russian interference in the 2016 election increased.

The campaign spent significantly more in this area during the late spring and summer than during the first three months of the year, when it reported paying $249,344 on legal expenses. Trump has spent more than $4.5 million of campaign funds on legal costs since the beginning of his campaign.

Trump’s campaign reported paying $538,265 in the last three months to Jones Day, the campaign’s law firm, up from $190,306 in the first quarter of 2017.

So long as Trump is only paying expenses incurred from the parts of the investigation related to his campaign, it’s legal for the president to use his campaign donations to pay legal expenses or the legal expenses for Trump Jr., said Larry Noble, senior director at the Campaign Legal Center.

“They’re obviously increasing the number of lawyers they have working for them,” Noble said. “And [Trump] seems to be, to a certain extent, churning through lawyers – so this could get expensive.”

The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

The Trump campaign made the payment to Futerfas two weeks before The New York Times reported an exchange between Trump Jr. and a Russian official about arranging a meeting to discuss damaging research on the Clinton campaign. Futerfas’ involvement was first reported by Reuters on July 10th.

The new filings say payments were made for “legal consulting,” a vague term that could encompass a variety of expenses—including, possibly, settlement payments for cases brought against the Trump campaign.

The $50,000 was paid to Futerfas on June 27th — just three days before the filing deadline. Additionally, the campaign paid $89,561 on June 30th to the Trump Corporation for legal consulting.

Since the payments were made within days of the end of the filing period, they may represent only a small portion of the amount that is now being billed to Trump’s campaign by Futerfas and the Trump Corporation.

The payments to the Trump Corporation could be for lawyers employed by the corporation working on campaign-related issues such as the Russia probe, or possibly to reimburse other lawyers hired by the Trump Corporation whose names are not disclosed in the filing. Campaign finance records do not show any prior payments for legal services made from the campaign to the Trump Corporation in the past.

The Trump campaign racked up multiple lawsuits, including suits stemming from violent incidents at rallies and alleged copyright infringement. In one case, a former campaign staffer alleged the campaign failed to act when Trump’s North Carolina state director twice pulled a gun on campaign employees.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/15/17 06:39 PM

http://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2017/...worth-watching/


Fox News host on Trump: Why all these lies?

Smerconish

Michael Smerconish asks if President Trump's base will change their positions after hearing prominent conservative voices in the media express concerns about how Donald Trump Jr. has handled reports that he met with a Russian lawyer in June 2016.
Source: CNN
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/15/17 06:43 PM

Protesters planned to converge on the event because it's being held at Trump National, the president's private golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey.

Demonstrators were kept at least three miles from the course. They were met by a roughly equal number of Trump supporters.

Players faced uncomfortable questions from reporters earlier this week about Trump, and at least four U.S. senators called for the United States Golf Association to move the tournament, three of them citing the president's "pattern of degrading and dehumanizing women."

UltraViolet co-founder Shaunna Thomas told CNNMoney earlier this week that holding the tournament at the Trump course is unfair to the players.

"There's something inherently shocking in forcing women golfers to play on a course owned by Trump, who has made such sexist comments," she said. "We feel terrible for the players themselves who are caught in the middle of it."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/15/17 06:46 PM

BEDMINSTER, N.J. - Some of the best golfers in the world are competing in New Jersey this weekend - and vying for attention with a guy whose best finish was an age-group club title.

That would be President Donald Trump.

The president's arrival at his club on Friday created such a commotion that crowds at the U.S. Women's Open were asked to keep it down as golfers Lexi Thompson, Brooke Henderson and Stacy Lewis approached the 15th green.

Trump, fresh off a quick trip to France, turned up in a glassed-off patio of the clubhouse with son Eric by his side.

Acknowledging the crowds, the president waved, pointed and gave a thumbs-up, prompting squeals from a group of schoolgirls. Dozens of people swarmed around the clubhouse snapping photos and waving as the president occasionally approached the window.

Trump's presence did pose a distraction to players. Chinese golfer Shanshan Feng said she could hear crowds screaming for the president from the 15th green.

And asked if she could tell which direction the crowds were looking, Thompson told reporters, ''not toward the golf.''

Trump's visit during the weekend tournament also poses a security challenge because his residence is on the course, where fans and players pass by throughout the day.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/15/17 06:48 PM

In newly filed campaign disclosure forms, President Donald Trump’s 2020 presidential campaign committee has disclosed that it paid a $50,000 retainer to criminal defense attorney Alan S. Futerfas who represents his son Donald Trump Jr. The timing of the payment is certainly raising eyebrows. Trump claimed he found out about the controversial meeting his son held with a Kremlin-linked lawyer around the time the New York Times first reported it, but the payment to Trump Jr.’s lawyer was made eleven days before.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/16/17 05:02 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/in-i...kushpmg00000009

President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Jay Sekulow misrepresented the role of the Secret Service on Sunday morning during an interview on ABC’s “This Week” in an attempt to justify Donald Trump Jr.’s controversial meeting with a Russian lawyer and a Russian-American lobbyist, several former and current Secret Service officials told HuffPost.

It has been eight days since The New York Times revealed that Trump’s son met with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. It was confirmed on Friday that Russian-American lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin was also present at the meeting.

The meeting has drawn condemnation and concerns on both sides of the aisle because it appears that Trump Jr. colluded with a foreign power hostile to the United States to seek negative information about his father’s presidential opponent, Hillary Clinton.

In his interview with ABC White House reporter Jon Karl on Saturday, Sekulow, a longtime Trump ally and a member of his personal legal team, asserted that if Veselnitskaya and Akhmetshin were such concerning figures, the Secret Service should have prevented them from entering Trump Tower. Sekulow made several misleading statements, according to current and former Secret Service officials who spoke to HuffPost.

KARL: But do you accept what we heard from the president’s pick to run the FBI, that what should’ve happened there, you know, a situation where you have representatives of a foreign government offering assistance to ― in an election, that what should’ve happened is that the FBI should’ve been notified?

SEKULOW: Well, I wonder why the Secret Service, if this was nefarious, why the Secret Service allowed these people in. The president had Secret Service protection at that point, and that raised a question with me.

Trump’s legal team and surrogates have been using a range of excuses to push back on the controversy surrounding the meeting, claiming it wasn’t illegal for Trump Jr. to have accepted it; that any campaign, regardless of party, would have accepted such a meeting; or that nothing of note came out of the meeting, meaning that it shouldn’t be a matter of interest to the press or public.

Some pundits and reporters have speculated that Sekulow shouldn’t even have made the assertion about the Secret Service’s role because Trump Jr.’s meeting took place on June 9, 2016 ― at that point, only his father had a Secret Service protective detail.

Even though Trump Jr. didn’t have a protective detail at the time of the meeting, given that Trump’s home, office and campaign office were all in the same space, the Secret Service did consider all of those spaces to be part of their screening oversight to look for physical danger to the candidate, according to two sources familiar with the protective posture of the Secret Service at that stage of the campaign.

“At that stage, we would only screen for physical threats, we were not at the stage to be in a counterintelligence posture,” Jonathan Wackrow, a 14-year veteran of the Secret Service, who served on former President Barack Obama’s detail, told HuffPost.

The Secret Service was conducting physical checks (magnetometers) for anyone entering Trump’s office space and apartment (with some exceptions), but they were only checking names of people meeting with his father and those names were only checked to ensure that they wouldn’t have presented a physical threat to Trump (for example, a prior conviction for assault), not a possible counterintelligence threat. Had Trump Jr. met with Veselnitskaya and Akhmetshin outside of Trump Tower, they wouldn’t have been subjected to any screening at all.

At that stage, we would only screen for physical threats, we were not at the stage to be in a counterintelligence posture. Jonathan Wackrow, a 14-year veteran of the Secret Service

“Donald Trump, Jr. was not a protectee of the USSS in June, 2016. Thus we would not have screened anyone he was meeting with at that time,” a Secret Service spokesman said in a statement to HuffPost, referring to the counterintelligence screenings or criminal background checks.

Sekulow’s assertion that the Secret Service would have prevented someone “nefarious” from entering Trump Tower is misleading because it assumes the agents’ role in protecting candidates is the same as protecting officials. The Secret Service only has authority to physically prevent someone from entering a secure space of the president or vice president of the United States. Even if the Secret Service felt someone presented a physical threat to candidate Trump (after screening their name), they could not have stopped him or her from entering Trump Tower if Trump, his family, or his campaign team disregarded the concerns of the Secret Service.

With respect to Trump, now that he is president, the screening of people who will be in his proximity is much more rigorous. Any individual coming within proximity of the president is subjected to what’s known as an “arms-reach-of-the-president,” or an ARP, check. In that screening, the Secret Service will do a background check through all of the intelligence databases on anyone that will be in the same room as the president for a meeting or a reception where they will be photographed with the president.

For example, if the White House is holding a diplomatic reception with the president, the guest list will be run through an ARP check. If a businessman invited to the reception is flagged as a known Russian state security officer, their name will be flagged for the highest level of White House staff and a decision will be made if they should be allowed to attend.

But that level of scrutiny is only reserved for the president of the United States. Even though Trump Jr. has his own Secret Service protective detail now (as do all of the Trump children and grandchildren), people he met with were not screened for counterintelligence purposes.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/16/17 09:33 PM




Is there any truth to this?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/16/17 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker



Is there any truth to this?
THAT'S FUNNY!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 02:29 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker



Is there any truth to this?
THAT'S FUNNY!
It is funny but it shows you neither of you guys have any facts to counter what I am saing now.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 03:36 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dona...kushpmg00000009


Trump’s Lawyer Says ‘No Evidence’ President Knew Of Son’s Russia Meeting. There Is.
The president’s campaign committee paid his son’s defense attorney before The New York Times published its big story.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 03:39 AM

There are reports on U-Tube that Trump Sr. only reads at the third grade level.

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Trump also reportedly signed off on Trump Jr.‘s statement in response to The New York Times’ July 8 story revealing the meeting. In an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday, Sekulow didn’t deny that the president signed off on the statement but insisted he wasn’t involved in writing it.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 06:35 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
There are reports on U-Tube that Trump Sr. only reads at the third grade level.

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Trump also reportedly signed off on Trump Jr.‘s statement in response to The New York Times’ July 8 story revealing the meeting. In an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday, Sekulow didn’t deny that the president signed off on the statement but insisted he wasn’t involved in writing it.



I heard it was the second grade, smirk , and you probably wonder why no one takes you seriously.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 07:35 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
There are reports on U-Tube that Trump Sr. only reads at the third grade level.

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Trump also reportedly signed off on Trump Jr.‘s statement in response to The New York Times’ July 8 story revealing the meeting. In an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday, Sekulow didn’t deny that the president signed off on the statement but insisted he wasn’t involved in writing it.
I heard it was the second grade, smirk , and you probably wonder why no one takes you seriously.
I never wondered that. There are 33 people reading Headline News right now. I post for the readers not the posters like you and gassy who are hopeless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXGuJlTVXfw
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 07:36 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joXO6Zk4iyk

According to a report in Newsweek, Donald Trump’s rage issues have hit a tipping point this week after news broke about his son’s meeting with a Russian lawyer. Aides say that the president will not stop yelling at the TV and rage-tweeting, all while telling the public that his White House is functioning perfectly
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 08:06 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
There are reports on U-Tube that Trump Sr. only reads at the third grade level.

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Trump also reportedly signed off on Trump Jr.‘s statement in response to The New York Times’ July 8 story revealing the meeting. In an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday, Sekulow didn’t deny that the president signed off on the statement but insisted he wasn’t involved in writing it.



I heard it was the second grade, smirk , and you probably wonder why no one takes you seriously.


I heard he wasn't able to read at all!
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 08:10 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joXO6Zk4iyk

According to a report in Newsweek, Donald Trump’s rage issues have hit a tipping point this week after news broke about his son’s meeting with a Russian lawyer. Aides say that the president will not stop yelling at the TV and rage-tweeting, all while telling the public that his White House is functioning perfectly


I heard President Trump kicked a bust of Mr. Obama, and the nose broke off the bust.
Posted by: Teonan

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 08:24 AM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joXO6Zk4iyk

According to a report in Newsweek, Donald Trump’s rage issues have hit a tipping point this week after news broke about his son’s meeting with a Russian lawyer. Aides say that the president will not stop yelling at the TV and rage-tweeting, all while telling the public that his White House is functioning perfectly


I heard President Trump kicked a bust of Mr. Obama, and the nose broke off the bust.


Speaking of getting booted. Haven't the Saint Regis clan mothers served your sorry arse with walking papers yet? wink
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 10:52 AM



Dems keep digging a deeper and deeper hole they will never be able to climb out of.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 11:00 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga


Dems keep digging a deeper and deeper hole they will never be able to climb out of.
LOL. It is the Reps digging themselves in a hole. Every one of those guys in your cartoon is guilty. Nice group pic. grin
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 11:19 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga


Dems keep digging a deeper and deeper hole they will never be able to climb out of.
LOL. It is the Reps digging themselves in a hole. Every one of those guys in your cartoon is guilty. Nice group pic. grin
Fishing expedition!
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 12:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joXO6Zk4iyk

According to a report in Newsweek, Donald Trump’s rage issues have hit a tipping point this week after news broke about his son’s meeting with a Russian lawyer. Aides say that the president will not stop yelling at the TV and rage-tweeting, all while telling the public that his White House is functioning perfectly


I heard President Trump kicked a bust of Mr. Obama, and the nose broke off the bust.


Speaking of getting booted. Haven't the Saint Regis clan mothers served your sorry arse with walking papers yet? wink

Quote:
clan mothers served your sorry arse with walking papers yet

Isn't that what happened to you?
Posted by: Teonan

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 01:01 PM


Huh?
Fall of the wagon again Tom? grin
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Fishing expedition!

And all the suckers are going to be caught from the smallest to the biggest sucker who lives in a big white house rent free.
Posted by: Teonan

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 01:12 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Fishing expedition!

And all the suckers are going to be caught from the smallest to the biggest sucker who lives in a big white house rent free.


laugh

BaM. Mic drop!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 04:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Fishing expedition!

And all the suckers are going to be caught from the smallest to the biggest sucker who lives in a big white house rent free.


laugh

BaM. Mic drop!
You wish! We all know how good you liberals predictions are! Remember your election predictions! HA HA LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/17/17 04:37 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Fishing expedition!

And all the suckers are going to be caught from the smallest to the biggest sucker who lives in a big white house rent free.
laugh

BaM. Mic drop!
You wish! We all know how good you liberals predictions are! Remember your election predictions! HA HA LOL!
My god. I have proven you wrong on that a dozen times in different ways on here now. You are in a real rut.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/18/17 02:24 AM

Since President Trump took office, opponents have been mobilizing at the grassroots. A group of former congressional staffers, for instance, formed the group Indivisible which used the methods of the tea party to create pressure on Republicans in Congress to vote no on repeal and replace. They flooded town halls, spoke to the media, called and emailed congressional offices and appeared at public events to make their case known. The strategy worked. They have been incredibly effective throughout at generating fear among congressional Republicans and making it clear that there would be high costs to voting in favor of this bill.

The irony is that the failure of the Senate bill could be the best thing to happen to Republicans. This stops them from passing legislation that could easily cause a massive backlash and creates an opportunity for moving forward with measures more attractive to their supporters, like tax cuts. But that all assumes that the dysfunction we have seen from this White House and the rightward pressure coming from within the party come to an end. The odds are that those won't. If that's the case, the defeat of health care might portend more legislative failures.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/18/17 10:40 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Since President Trump took office, opponents have been mobilizing at the grassroots. A group of former congressional staffers, for instance, formed the group Indivisible which used the methods of the tea party to create pressure on Republicans in Congress to vote no on repeal and replace. They flooded town halls, spoke to the media, called and emailed congressional offices and appeared at public events to make their case known. The strategy worked. They have been incredibly effective throughout at generating fear among congressional Republicans and making it clear that there would be high costs to voting in favor of this bill.

The irony is that the failure of the Senate bill could be the best thing to happen to Republicans. This stops them from passing legislation that could easily cause a massive backlash and creates an opportunity for moving forward with measures more attractive to their supporters, like tax cuts. But that all assumes that the dysfunction we have seen from this White House and the rightward pressure coming from within the party come to an end. The odds are that those won't. If that's the case, the defeat of health care might portend more legislative failures.
Let it fail! Obama's legacy isn't going to be so bright after all!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/19/17 02:19 AM

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washingt...-htmlstory.html

The buck stops... The buck stops... How does that saying go again?

President Trump said he would not take responsibility for the Affordable Care Act on Tuesday, telling reporters he wanted to "let Obamacare fail" after congressional Republicans failed to pass a repeal or a replacement of the Democratic-designed healthcare law.

"We're not going to own it. I'm not going to own it," the president said. "I can tell you the Republicans are not going to own it."

That's a contrast to many of Trump's past remarks about leadership when he was a businessman, when he had many thoughts about the responsibility.

Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump

Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.
2:01 PM - 8 Nov 2013


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Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump

NO GAMES! HOUSE @GOP MUST DEFUND OBAMACARE! IF THEY DON’T, THEN THEY OWN IT!
3:59 PM - 12 Sep 2013


Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump

Entrepreneurs: Everything starts with you. Realize that you're in charge. Whatever happens, you're responsible.
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“You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today.” – Pres. Abraham Lincoln
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Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/19/17 02:26 AM

https://www.apnews.com/f88d2619064f49d593c5dcf8e3cac25c/'Let-Obamacare-fail,'-Trump-declares-as-GOP-plan-collapses

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump declared Tuesday it’s time to “let Obamacare fail” after the latest GOP health care plan crashed and burned in the Senate, a stunning failure for the president, Republican leader Mitch McConnell and a party that has vowed for years to abolish the law.

In a head-spinning series of developments, rank-and-file Republican senators turned on McConnell and Trump for the third time in a row, denying the votes to move forward with a plan for a straight-up repeal of “Obamacare.” This time, it was three GOP women — Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, and Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia — who delivered the death blow.

All had been shut out of McConnell’s initial all-male working group on health care.

McConnell, who could afford to lose only two votes in the narrowly divided Senate, had turned to the repeal-only bill after his earlier repeal-and-replace measure was rejected on Monday. That had followed the failure of an earlier version of the bill last month.

The successive defeats made clear that despite seven years of promises to repeal former President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act, Republicans apparently cannot deliver. Nonetheless, McConnell insisted he would move forward with a vote on his measure to repeal the law, effective in two years, with a promise to work — along with Democrats — to replace it in the meantime.

The vote to move ahead to the bill will take place early next week, McConnell announced late Tuesday. It appears doomed to fail, but GOP leaders want to put lawmakers on record on the issue and move on.

At the White House, Trump appeared to recognize defeat, at least for the moment, while insisting he bore none of the blame.

“I think we’re probably in that position where we’ll just let Obamacare fail,” the president said. “We’re not going to own it. I’m not going to own it. I can tell you that the Republicans are not going to own it. We’ll let Obamacare fail and then the Democrats are going to come to us and they’re going to say, ‘How do we fix it?’”

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday night that all GOP senators have been invited to the White House tomorrow for lunch to discuss the way forward on health care.

Despite the current law’s problems, most health care experts do not believe it is at immediate risk of outright failure, and Democratic cooperation to adjust the law is far from assured.

Nor does it appear likely that Republicans can escape owning the problems with the law and the health care system overall, now that they control the House, Senate and White House, partly on the strength of campaigning against the law.

“They seem to have this notion that they can be a majority party, and have control of the White House, and not be responsible for bringing down the health care system,” said Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois. “It doesn’t work that way.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/19/17 02:33 AM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/seize-the-moment-dems-embrace-medicare-for-all

With the GOP health care plan in shambles it’s now time for the Democratic Party to do more than just fight to preserve the ACA. Democrats must now champion a health care plan that every American truly deserves: Medicare for all.

We are told from the time we are old enough to understand words that the United States of America is the greatest country in the world. I fully agree with that sentiment. I also believe it’s time as a nation we start living up to that ideal by providing every man, woman and child of America with basic health care from the cradle to the grave just like every other industrialized nation offers it’s citizens
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/19/17 02:50 PM

So terrible sad. What is happening to Americans? Are there so many that are that ignorant?

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/18/15992680/trump-supporters-russia-poll-believe

The evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election has only grown since Donald Trump took office. Yet a whopping 72 percent of Trump voters believe the whole story is “fake news.” A mere 14 percent believe there’s anything to the Russia story.

That’s according to an astonishing new survey from the left-leaning Public Policy Polling. Here some additional highlights:

Fewer than half of Trump voters (45 percent) believe Donald Trump Jr. met with Russians about information that might be harmful to Hillary Clinton; 32 percent don’t believe the meeting even took place; 24 percent are unsure. 13 percent of Trump voters think there was knowing collusion — as in, that Trump’s team actively worked with the Russians — to gain an advantage in the election, whereas 81 percent say it didn't happen at all.

A July 15 ABC/Washington Post poll found a similarly disturbing trend: Only 9 percent of Republicans polled said they believe Russia tried to influence the election, which was down — yes, down — from 18 percent in April.

This is all despite the fact that:

The US intelligence community has unanimously stated that Russia tried to influence the election to help Trump win.

Donald Trump Jr. personally tweeted out a series of emails in which he explicitly states that he would “love” to set up the meeting as long as the Russian lawyer had incriminating information on Clinton.

He has since admitted that he did, in fact, attend said meeting.

The president himself basically admitted that the meeting happened.

This is staggering. It means that even when Trump and his team openly admit to doing something — regardless of whether they believe that thing is bad or illegal — some Trump supporters will still refuse to believe it.

Trump supporters just don’t want to believe the Russia story

A quick look at the crosstabs of the poll show there is a clear partisan split when it comes to what people think about Russia’s involvement in the election. Those who voted for Trump are a lot less likely to believe the story than those who voted for Hillary Clinton, Gary Johnson, or Jill Stein.

Anecdotal evidence also seems to support this finding. When my colleague Lindsay Maizland traveled to her home state of Michigan — a state Trump won in the election — in July, she found that people there overwhelmingly believe the whole Russia story is “fake news.”

People told her that they feel ignored by the Washington establishment, hate the “liberal media,” and couldn’t care less about the Russia investigation. They saw it as a distraction from what America should be focusing on: the return of jobs to areas that have been neglected by Washington for years.

Still, that real, verifiable facts that come directly from the Trump family themselves don’t seem to be able to change opinions about the veracity of at least some aspects of the Russia story is troubling. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that people don’t like learning information they are predisposed to disagree with, as my colleague Brian Resnick discovered. Clearly the Russia story is something Trump supporters just don’t want to face.

That’s going to be a problem, though, as the evidence piles up that Russia did a lot more to influence the election than the president wants to admit. Worse, it may mean that some Americans might not even care that Russia orchestrated one of the greatest attacks on US democracy in our country’s history.

Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/19/17 10:23 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.thedailybeast.com/seize-the-moment-dems-embrace-medicare-for-all

With the GOP health care plan in shambles it’s now time for the Democratic Party to do more than just fight to preserve the ACA. Democrats must now champion a health care plan that every American truly deserves: Medicare for all.

We are told from the time we are old enough to understand words that the United States of America is the greatest country in the world. I fully agree with that sentiment. I also believe it’s time as a nation we start living up to that ideal by providing every man, woman and child of America with basic health care from the cradle to the grave just like every other industrialized nation offers it’s citizens
Can't be done! This country doles out to much money to other countries instead of putting America First Kyle!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/20/17 03:49 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/opinions/trump-six-months-miserable-opinion-dantonio/index.html

After six months in office, our 45th President seems to be a most unhappy warrior. Yes, Donald Trump's face lights up when they bring big trucks to the White House, and he gets to sit behind the wheel. But for the most part he offers no more than a thumbs up or a few hand claps to indicate enthusiasm, and his eyes reflect the look of a man who would rather be anywhere else but Washington.

And who could blame him? Trump campaigned on the promise that the skills he employed as a businessman and reality TV show host would be sufficient to lead the country and the world. Then he discovered that the practices that worked for him during a lifetime leading a family business are not necessarily transferable.

Being CEO doesn't prepare you for the Oval Office

As a private citizen, Trump controlled a multibillion-dollar family business empire, which meant that he pretty much said and did whatever he wanted. When he didn't like how people in his organization performed, he could fire them.

When he felt offended by someone outside of Trumpworld, he expressed himself in whatever manner he saw fit. He called a critical New York Times columnist a dog and declared that Hillary Clinton "can't satisfy her husband." He paid a gaggle of lawyers to sue those he felt had harmed him and to protect him from claims made by those who felt trampled by him. With exceptions, Trump prevailed because he could buy more legal firepower and sustain the fight longer.

As President, Trump has continued to act as the tough guy. When he is offended by reporters who fact-check his claims, he brands the press the "enemy of the people." The difference now is that Trump's targets are not easily cowed. The so-called enemies of the people have reliably reported on the President's many lies and misrepresentations.

Meanwhile, he approval rating continues to drop. In the most recent poll, only 36% of Americans said they were satisfied with the job he is doing. In the history of polling, no president has been rated so low after six months on the job.
Trump's poll numbers are so bad that members of Congress, including his fellow Republicans, may well feel emboldened to defy him. The debacle that was the GOP's attempt to repeal Obamacare and replace it with their own is a case in point. In the 2016 campaign, Trump promised, "You're going to end up with great health care for a fraction of the price and that's gonna take place immediately after we go in. OK? Immediately. Fast. Quick."

Congress didn't act immediately. Instead Republican leaders engaged in the messy process that is lawmaking and months passed. And now the Senate repeal and replace bill has imploded.

A frustrated President let it be known that members who opposed him would face tough primaries in the next election. Threats may work with real estate subcontractors who want to get paid. But representatives and senators who answer to constituents aren't necessarily as vulnerable.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/20/17 10:07 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/opinions/trump-six-months-miserable-opinion-dantonio/index.html

After six months in office, our 45th President seems to be a most unhappy warrior. Yes, Donald Trump's face lights up when they bring big trucks to the White House, and he gets to sit behind the wheel. But for the most part he offers no more than a thumbs up or a few hand claps to indicate enthusiasm, and his eyes reflect the look of a man who would rather be anywhere else but Washington.

And who could blame him? Trump campaigned on the promise that the skills he employed as a businessman and reality TV show host would be sufficient to lead the country and the world. Then he discovered that the practices that worked for him during a lifetime leading a family business are not necessarily transferable.

Being CEO doesn't prepare you for the Oval Office

As a private citizen, Trump controlled a multibillion-dollar family business empire, which meant that he pretty much said and did whatever he wanted. When he didn't like how people in his organization performed, he could fire them.

When he felt offended by someone outside of Trumpworld, he expressed himself in whatever manner he saw fit. He called a critical New York Times columnist a dog and declared that Hillary Clinton "can't satisfy her husband." He paid a gaggle of lawyers to sue those he felt had harmed him and to protect him from claims made by those who felt trampled by him. With exceptions, Trump prevailed because he could buy more legal firepower and sustain the fight longer.

As President, Trump has continued to act as the tough guy. When he is offended by reporters who fact-check his claims, he brands the press the "enemy of the people." The difference now is that Trump's targets are not easily cowed. The so-called enemies of the people have reliably reported on the President's many lies and misrepresentations.

Meanwhile, he approval rating continues to drop. In the most recent poll, only 36% of Americans said they were satisfied with the job he is doing. In the history of polling, no president has been rated so low after six months on the job.
Trump's poll numbers are so bad that members of Congress, including his fellow Republicans, may well feel emboldened to defy him. The debacle that was the GOP's attempt to repeal Obamacare and replace it with their own is a case in point. In the 2016 campaign, Trump promised, "You're going to end up with great health care for a fraction of the price and that's gonna take place immediately after we go in. OK? Immediately. Fast. Quick."

Congress didn't act immediately. Instead Republican leaders engaged in the messy process that is lawmaking and months passed. And now the Senate repeal and replace bill has imploded.

A frustrated President let it be known that members who opposed him would face tough primaries in the next election. Threats may work with real estate subcontractors who want to get paid. But representatives and senators who answer to constituents aren't necessarily as vulnerable.
The country needs to be run like a business! Balance the books and cut down on the handouts!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/21/17 01:04 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
The country needs to be run like a business! Balance the books and cut down on the handouts!
But that is not the type of business skills that Trump has. He never had to answer to a board of directors. He never had to answer to shareholders. He ran his huge business as a small business where he was the total boss. He was the total boss where he could say your fired and they were gone. He knows nothing about the art of the deal other than playing the part of a bully.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/21/17 02:35 AM

Maybe Trump is starting to see the handwriting on the wall?

From WaPo: @RealDonaldTrump asks attorneys if he can pardon himself and family members #WeHaveATyrant
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/21/17 02:36 AM

Trump doesn't seem to know what health insurance is, how it works or what it costs http://huffp.st/w7jCFTF
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/21/17 02:38 AM



Donald Trump conducted an interview with the New York Times on Wednesday in which he said some newsworthy things about Robert Mueller, James Comey, and Russia. Per a transcript of the interview released by the Times, he also made some perplexing comments about health insurance, namely this riff, which is ostensibly about the political difficulty of eliminating protections for individuals with pre-existing conditions:

Pre-existing conditions are a tough deal. Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you’re 21 years old, you start working and you’re paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you’re 70, you get a nice plan. Here’s something where you walk up and say, “I want my insurance.” It’s a very tough deal, but it is something that we’re doing a good job of.

Twelve dollars a year! In reality, the Kaiser Family Foundation estimated that the average U.S. yearly premium for one specific type of middle-of-the-road individual plan offered through Affordable Care Act exchanges in 2016 was $4,583.

Trump made a similar comment in May, though at the time he named the relatively exorbitant price of $15 a month rather than $12 annually.

As others have pointed out, the president seems to be confusing health insurance rates with life insurance rates; life insurance is something you can pay a low rate for when you're young and then reap the benefits from when you're old/dead ("by the time you're 70") without having to pay an insane premium. Of course, 70-year-old Americans in every possible system of American health care—the one that currently exists, the ones that are proposed by Republicans, and the ones that are proposed by Democrats—will be covered by Medicare, not by plans they started to pay into when they were 21. So Trump's explanation of how the system should/could work doesn't make sense even if you give him the benefit of the doubt on the $12 number. Which you shouldn't. Come on!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/21/17 02:43 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chuc...kushpmg00000067

A Top Republican Wants You To Believe Russia Was Behind That Famous Trump Dossier

But Sen. Chuck Grassley’s insinuations don’t add up.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/21/17 02:44 AM

CBS News‏Verified account @CBSNews 1h1 hour ago

Ex-Trump campaign manager was millions in debt to pro-Russia interests, report says http://cbsn.ws/2uOAPIF
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/21/17 02:47 AM

HuffPost‏Verified account @HuffPost 14h14 hours ago

Special counsel Robert Mueller is reportedly probing Trump's business transactions http://huffp.st/L83g10a
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/21/17 02:50 AM

HuffPost‏Verified account @HuffPost 11h11 hours ago

Trump spokeswoman "not sure" If he regrets trashing John McCain's military record http://huffp.st/0et7WuD
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/21/17 06:53 PM

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...ak-loose-215405

Yes, Trump Could Pardon Himself. Then All Hell Would Break Loose

It’s never been tried. Here’s how it could blow up his presidency, or blow up the system.

By Richard Primus

July 21, 2017

This week’s eye-popping constitutional question: Can President Trump pardon himself for criminal wrongdoing? With the Russia scandal swirling more intensely around the White House every week, the Washington Post reported Friday morning that the president might be considering pardoning himself and members of his family as a way of fending off legal consequences for whatever special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation turns up.

A self-pardon would be something new in American history — and just the kind of departure from prior norms that typifies Trump. The Constitution doesn’t specify whether the president can pardon himself, and no court has ever ruled on the issue, because no president has ever been brazen enough to try it. Among constitutional lawyers, the dominant (though not unanimous) answer is “no,” in part because letting any person exempt himself from criminal liability would be a fundamental affront to America’s basic rule-of-law values.

But as a practical matter, it’s not a panel of legal experts that will decide this issue. It probably won’t be a court, either. Instead, the answer will be fought out at the highest levels of American politics. And in real life, if the president signed a document with the words “I pardon myself”—which he certainly could—it’s impossible to know what would happen next.

Given the political firestorm that a self-pardon might provoke and the broader norm-smashing context of the Trump administration, an attempted self-pardon could do anything from keeping Trump out of jail to bringing down his presidency and landing him in the dock. Or it could do nothing at all—which would be troubling, too. All we can know for sure is that it would take our system, once again, into uncharted territory.

Here’s one possible scenario. Suppose the president announces a self-pardon, and Republicans in Congress follow the script they’ve used until this point: They express concern at the behavior but make no serious move to punish the president for it. The legal effect of the pardon would then go untested for years. A pardon is a shield against a prosecution, and in the absence of a potential prosecution it has no work to do. As long as Trump is president, there won’t be any prosecution to put it to the test, because a sitting president probably can’t be prosecuted for a crime. Again, this isn’t a certainty—the Supreme Court has made clear that a sitting president can be sued in a civil suit, as Bill Clinton was by Paula Jones—but the dominant view on the criminal side is that a President must be impeached and removed from office before he can be a criminal defendant. So while Trump remains president, an attempted self-pardon would be like an umbrella that hasn’t been taken out in the rain: We don’t know yet whether it works, or how well.

After Trump leaves office, the self-pardon would be tested only if the next administration were inclined to prosecute Trump. And this raises a potentially momentous but highly speculative question: How much might Trump’s prosecution be a campaign issue in 2020? Or 2024? Unlike many countries, in America there’s a strong norm that the winners of elections don’t go out and prosecute the losers, as many Trump opponents noted when Trump threatened to prosecute Hillary Clinton last fall. But if Trump pre-emptively pardons himself, he puts that issue on the table: A would-be successor almost has to answer the question. Surely a Trump-friendly successor wouldn’t consider it, and even a seriously anti-Trump candidate might care more about preserving American norms than delivering a comeuppance. But for the past year and a half, behavioral conventions that seemed well-settled have been crumbling almost weekly, and trying to predict how officials might act after four or eight more years like this is like trying to see beyond some constitutional event horizon. And it’s no easier to predict whether—if Trump were subjected to an unprecedented prosecution after his presidency—a court would block the prosecution on the equally unprecedented grounds that the president had pardoned himself.

There’s another possible future, if Trump announces a self pardon: It could be the moment that Republicans in Congress decide he has finally stepped over the line. To be sure, Congress has shown no inclination to remove the president to this point, and maybe it never will. But as the Supreme Court noted long ago, a pardon suggests the existence of illegal behavior—and a self-pardon itself would represent such flagrant disrespect for rule-of-law values that if anything could push Congress toward impeaching and removing the president, this might.

In that case, Congress wouldn’t just be stripping Trump of his presidency: In all likelihood, it would be converting his ostensible pardon from a shield against prosecution into one more reason to move against him. After all, the decision to impeach would, in itself, all but establish that self-pardons are inconsistent with American constitutional norms. So if ex-President Trump were subsequently prosecuted, the courts would be substantially less likely to see his self-pardon as a valid defense. The defendant would be a disgraced rule-breaker, and the self-pardon would be among his sins—indeed, Congress would have deemed it a “high crime and misdemeanor” under the constitutional provision governing impeachments.

So even if Trump announces a self-pardon, the question of whether that announcement “really” created a valid pardon is one that might never be answered. But if it is settled, it’s more likely to be answered by elected officials rather than in court. Either they’ll punish him or they won’t, and if they don’t, the pardon might never matter one way or the other.

So for Congress to play its role in the constitutional system responsibly, its members might need to confront the basic legal question: Whether the constitution is best interpreted as giving the president a power to pardon himself. There are good reasons to arrive at the conclusion that self-pardon is not acceptable. And the very fact that the issue can’t reach a court anytime soon is a further reason why Congress needs to take its constitutional responsibility seriously. If the president announces a self-pardon, the Republican congressional leadership will either let a chief executive with no evident respect for the rule of law trash yet another constitutional norm, or it will finally decide to confront a reckless president who still commands the loyalty of their own party’s voting base. It’s bang or whimper, and it isn’t pretty either way.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/22/17 09:43 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...ak-loose-215405

Yes, Trump Could Pardon Himself. Then All Hell Would Break Loose

It’s never been tried. Here’s how it could blow up his presidency, or blow up the system.

By Richard Primus

July 21, 2017

This week’s eye-popping constitutional question: Can President Trump pardon himself for criminal wrongdoing? With the Russia scandal swirling more intensely around the White House every week, the Washington Post reported Friday morning that the president might be considering pardoning himself and members of his family as a way of fending off legal consequences for whatever special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation turns up.

A self-pardon would be something new in American history — and just the kind of departure from prior norms that typifies Trump. The Constitution doesn’t specify whether the president can pardon himself, and no court has ever ruled on the issue, because no president has ever been brazen enough to try it. Among constitutional lawyers, the dominant (though not unanimous) answer is “no,” in part because letting any person exempt himself from criminal liability would be a fundamental affront to America’s basic rule-of-law values.

But as a practical matter, it’s not a panel of legal experts that will decide this issue. It probably won’t be a court, either. Instead, the answer will be fought out at the highest levels of American politics. And in real life, if the president signed a document with the words “I pardon myself”—which he certainly could—it’s impossible to know what would happen next.

Given the political firestorm that a self-pardon might provoke and the broader norm-smashing context of the Trump administration, an attempted self-pardon could do anything from keeping Trump out of jail to bringing down his presidency and landing him in the dock. Or it could do nothing at all—which would be troubling, too. All we can know for sure is that it would take our system, once again, into uncharted territory.

Here’s one possible scenario. Suppose the president announces a self-pardon, and Republicans in Congress follow the script they’ve used until this point: They express concern at the behavior but make no serious move to punish the president for it. The legal effect of the pardon would then go untested for years. A pardon is a shield against a prosecution, and in the absence of a potential prosecution it has no work to do. As long as Trump is president, there won’t be any prosecution to put it to the test, because a sitting president probably can’t be prosecuted for a crime. Again, this isn’t a certainty—the Supreme Court has made clear that a sitting president can be sued in a civil suit, as Bill Clinton was by Paula Jones—but the dominant view on the criminal side is that a President must be impeached and removed from office before he can be a criminal defendant. So while Trump remains president, an attempted self-pardon would be like an umbrella that hasn’t been taken out in the rain: We don’t know yet whether it works, or how well.

After Trump leaves office, the self-pardon would be tested only if the next administration were inclined to prosecute Trump. And this raises a potentially momentous but highly speculative question: How much might Trump’s prosecution be a campaign issue in 2020? Or 2024? Unlike many countries, in America there’s a strong norm that the winners of elections don’t go out and prosecute the losers, as many Trump opponents noted when Trump threatened to prosecute Hillary Clinton last fall. But if Trump pre-emptively pardons himself, he puts that issue on the table: A would-be successor almost has to answer the question. Surely a Trump-friendly successor wouldn’t consider it, and even a seriously anti-Trump candidate might care more about preserving American norms than delivering a comeuppance. But for the past year and a half, behavioral conventions that seemed well-settled have been crumbling almost weekly, and trying to predict how officials might act after four or eight more years like this is like trying to see beyond some constitutional event horizon. And it’s no easier to predict whether—if Trump were subjected to an unprecedented prosecution after his presidency—a court would block the prosecution on the equally unprecedented grounds that the president had pardoned himself.

There’s another possible future, if Trump announces a self pardon: It could be the moment that Republicans in Congress decide he has finally stepped over the line. To be sure, Congress has shown no inclination to remove the president to this point, and maybe it never will. But as the Supreme Court noted long ago, a pardon suggests the existence of illegal behavior—and a self-pardon itself would represent such flagrant disrespect for rule-of-law values that if anything could push Congress toward impeaching and removing the president, this might.

In that case, Congress wouldn’t just be stripping Trump of his presidency: In all likelihood, it would be converting his ostensible pardon from a shield against prosecution into one more reason to move against him. After all, the decision to impeach would, in itself, all but establish that self-pardons are inconsistent with American constitutional norms. So if ex-President Trump were subsequently prosecuted, the courts would be substantially less likely to see his self-pardon as a valid defense. The defendant would be a disgraced rule-breaker, and the self-pardon would be among his sins—indeed, Congress would have deemed it a “high crime and misdemeanor” under the constitutional provision governing impeachments.

So even if Trump announces a self-pardon, the question of whether that announcement “really” created a valid pardon is one that might never be answered. But if it is settled, it’s more likely to be answered by elected officials rather than in court. Either they’ll punish him or they won’t, and if they don’t, the pardon might never matter one way or the other.

So for Congress to play its role in the constitutional system responsibly, its members might need to confront the basic legal question: Whether the constitution is best interpreted as giving the president a power to pardon himself. There are good reasons to arrive at the conclusion that self-pardon is not acceptable. And the very fact that the issue can’t reach a court anytime soon is a further reason why Congress needs to take its constitutional responsibility seriously. If the president announces a self-pardon, the Republican congressional leadership will either let a chief executive with no evident respect for the rule of law trash yet another constitutional norm, or it will finally decide to confront a reckless president who still commands the loyalty of their own party’s voting base. It’s bang or whimper, and it isn’t pretty either way.
OH BOY KYLE! ROFLMAO!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 02:11 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
OH BOY KYLE! ROFLMAO!
Funny huh? There is nothing funny about our nations government in such a turmoil that we have not seen since that other great Republican president Richard M. Nixon.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 08:35 AM

http://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/trumps-approval-how-low-can-he-go/

Trump’s approval: How low can he go?

By Steven Shepard and Jon McClure | 07/23/17 07:00 AM EDT

At the six-month mark of his administration, Donald Trump is less popular than any president elected in the modern polling era. Don’t expect a dramatic reversal of fortune anytime soon.

A POLITICO analysis of Trump’s approval ratings and more than four decades of presidential polling data suggests it’s unlikely Trump’s numbers will significantly change for the better over the next 12 months, imperiling the fate of his stalled legislative agenda and potentially threatening the GOP’s House majority in next year’s midterm elections.
Posted by: Hello_Governer

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 09:57 AM

More liberal left baloney grin

http://observer.com/2017/03/donald-trump-approval-ratings-nbc-wsj-poll/
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 10:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer



I believed Kyle is a Republican, and not a liberal.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 11:46 AM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
I believed Kyle is a Republican, and not a liberal.
That opinion shows how misguided a Trump supporter can think.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 12:30 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
OH BOY KYLE! ROFLMAO!
Funny huh? There is nothing funny about our nations government in such a turmoil that we have not seen since that other great Republican president Richard M. Nixon.
The funny part is how fixated you are on garbage news! Almost as fixated as you were on the landfill for many years! LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 02:36 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
OH BOY KYLE! ROFLMAO!
Funny huh? There is nothing funny about our nations government in such a turmoil that we have not seen since that other great Republican president Richard M. Nixon.
The funny part is how fixated you are on garbage news! Almost as fixated as you were on the landfill for many years! LOL!
What garbage news? You can't even give me one example. Here is an example. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...lacement-later/
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 07:03 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
OH BOY KYLE! ROFLMAO!
Funny huh? There is nothing funny about our nations government in such a turmoil that we have not seen since that other great Republican president Richard M. Nixon.
The funny part is how fixated you are on garbage news! Almost as fixated as you were on the landfill for many years! LOL!
What garbage news? You can't even give me one example. Here is an example. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...lacement-later/
CNN,MSNBC,MSN plus many more!
Posted by: scwoodchuck

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 07:27 PM

Hey guys, for as big as this country is and all the laws we have this country does pretty darn good. None of you can fathom just how complex government is.

https://cei.org/blog/nobody-knows-how-many-federal-agencies-exist
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 07:42 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
OH BOY KYLE! ROFLMAO!
Funny huh? There is nothing funny about our nations government in such a turmoil that we have not seen since that other great Republican president Richard M. Nixon.
The funny part is how fixated you are on garbage news! Almost as fixated as you were on the landfill for many years! LOL!
What garbage news? You can't even give me one example. Here is an example. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...lacement-later/
CNN,MSNBC,MSN plus many more!
So everything is garbage except Breitbart? Scaramucci was on CNN today. Trump gave the NY Times a big interview last week. He called them the failing NY Times for a long time now. The bottom line is if they do a story you don't like they are fake. Else they are OK.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 07:42 PM

Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Hey guys, for as big as this country is and all the laws we have this country does pretty darn good. None of you can fathom just how complex government is.

https://cei.org/blog/nobody-knows-how-many-federal-agencies-exist
That is very true Chuck!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/23/17 07:45 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Hey guys, for as big as this country is and all the laws we have this country does pretty darn good. None of you can fathom just how complex government is.

https://cei.org/blog/nobody-knows-how-many-federal-agencies-exist
That is very true Chuck!
Well do we all agree on something? See bipartisan compromise is possible. It would help a lot if Trump curbed his foul mouth and name calling.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/24/17 10:54 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Hey guys, for as big as this country is and all the laws we have this country does pretty darn good. None of you can fathom just how complex government is.

https://cei.org/blog/nobody-knows-how-many-federal-agencies-exist
That is very true Chuck!
Well do we all agree on something? See bipartisan compromise is possible. It would help a lot if Trump curbed his foul mouth and name calling.
Not possible! The sore loser Democrats are to busy trying to sink Trump at the cost of the country!
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/24/17 01:03 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Hey guys, for as big as this country is and all the laws we have this country does pretty darn good. None of you can fathom just how complex government is.

https://cei.org/blog/nobody-knows-how-many-federal-agencies-exist
That is very true Chuck!
Well do we all agree on something? See bipartisan compromise is possible. It would help a lot if Trump curbed his foul mouth and name calling.
Not possible! The sore loser Democrats are to busy trying to sink Trump at the cost of the country!

No, they're busy trying to prevent a swell of Racist, Nationalistic Fascism from DESTROYING our beloved Democratic Republic, with Trump being the clear, primary driving thrust behind it.

A Scion of Hatred, Stupidity and Arrogance.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/24/17 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Hey guys, for as big as this country is and all the laws we have this country does pretty darn good. None of you can fathom just how complex government is.

https://cei.org/blog/nobody-knows-how-many-federal-agencies-exist
That is very true Chuck!
Well do we all agree on something? See bipartisan compromise is possible. It would help a lot if Trump curbed his foul mouth and name calling.
Not possible! The sore loser Democrats are to busy trying to sink Trump at the cost of the country!

No, they're busy trying to prevent a swell of Racist, Nationalistic Fascism from DESTROYING our beloved Democratic Republic, with Trump being the clear, primary driving thrust behind it.

A Scion of Hatred, Stupidity and Arrogance.
In your opinion which don't amount to squat BIMBO!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/25/17 03:26 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
In your opinion which don't amount to squat BIMBO!
Timbo and I present a lot of facts in the form of cut and pastes. You don't like them because they contradict your preconceived notions of the political world.

You are the one who gives us your opinions with nothing to back it up. You often say "I think" or "I believe". I rarely say that but I am going to say it now. I believe you understand nothing about what great damage Trump is doing to this great nation. That is what I think.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/25/17 06:19 PM

https://www.apnews.com/1d68f6ddcceb48c19...-political-fire

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — No knot-tying demonstrations. No wood-carving advice. President Donald Trump went straight to starting a fire in a speech at a national Boy Scout gathering.

Parents, former Scouts and others were furious after Trump railed against his enemies, promoted his political agenda and underlined his insistence on loyalty before an audience of tens of thousands of school-age Scouts in West Virginia on Monday night.

“Is nothing safe?” Jon Wolfsthal, a former special assistant to President Barack Obama, wrote on Twitter, saying Trump turned the event into a “Nazi Youth rally.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/25/17 06:21 PM

From conservative Joe Walsh:

Joe Walsh‏Verified account @WalshFreedom 12h12 hours ago

Someone needs to take Trump's phone away in the morning before he's had his Cocoa Puffs. This is such bullshit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFk6VVdXUAA2KO3.jpg
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/25/17 06:23 PM

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...line/508122001/

WASHINGTON – If President Trump was listening to the broadcast of Jeff Sessions's contentious Senate confirmation hearing back in January, he would know why his demands this week for his attorney general to investigate Hillary Clinton crossed a bright ethical line.

“This country does not punish its political enemies,'' Sessions told members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. He went on to acknowledge that his own critical remarks of Clinton during the 2016 presidential election disqualified him from launching such an inquiry.

“I believe the proper thing for me to do would be to recuse myself from any questions involving those kind of investigations that involve Secretary Clinton,'' Sessions said.

Since Trump first publicly expressed frustration with his attorney general last week – specifically over his March decision to recuse himself from overseeing the widening Russia investigation – Sessions has said very little.

Yet the attorney general's own remarks nearly eight months ago underscore the minefield of potential conflicts of interest inherent in Trump's request to investigate a political opponent – and the president's apparent disregard for the traditional independence of the Justice Department.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/25/17 06:25 PM

Keith Olbermann‏Verified account @KeithOlbermann 8m8 minutes ago

NEW VIDEO: McCain attacks Trump. Trump attacks Sessions. Breitbart attacks Trump. GOP's realizing Trump's an asshole
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/25/17 06:28 PM

Keith Olbermann‏Verified account @KeithOlbermann

NEW VIDEO: @GOP ready to Climb Down on Trump. McCain savages him. Breitbart attacks him on Sessions. Polls crater.
Republicans Are Bailing on Trump
One by one, they’re looking for ways to be rid of this mess
4:02 PM - 25 Jul 2017
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/25/17 06:32 PM

http://www.inquisitr.com/4389717/trump-i...4dd0bde21677fc8

he Washington Post has published the attached audio of President Donald Trump being called crazy by a couple of senators — and the audio is going viral on Tuesday, July 25. As can be heard below, the hot-mic conversation between Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Senator Jack Reed (D-R.I.) displays Collins and Reed speaking about a variety of topics, which include calling Trump crazy.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/26/17 09:50 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.inquisitr.com/4389717/trump-i...4dd0bde21677fc8

he Washington Post has published the attached audio of President Donald Trump being called crazy by a couple of senators — and the audio is going viral on Tuesday, July 25. As can be heard below, the hot-mic conversation between Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Senator Jack Reed (D-R.I.) displays Collins and Reed speaking about a variety of topics, which include calling Trump crazy.
Collins would be the crazy one! Have you ever heard that woman speak! OH BOY!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/26/17 11:45 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.inquisitr.com/4389717/trump-i...4dd0bde21677fc8

he Washington Post has published the attached audio of President Donald Trump being called crazy by a couple of senators — and the audio is going viral on Tuesday, July 25. As can be heard below, the hot-mic conversation between Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Senator Jack Reed (D-R.I.) displays Collins and Reed speaking about a variety of topics, which include calling Trump crazy.
Collins would be the crazy one! Have you ever heard that woman speak! OH BOY!
Many times on CNN and other great news sources. What channels do you see her on?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/27/17 12:22 PM

Can you believe a Republican senator said this about the president of his own party? This has be a turning point.

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NBC News‏Verified account @NBCNews 2h2 hours ago

WATCH: "Any effort to go after Mueller could be the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency," says Sen. Lindsey Graham.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/30/17 04:00 AM

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-suppor...linkId=40352322

Trump supporters in Georgia "soul searching" after Obamacare vote
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/30/17 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Can you believe a Republican senator said this about the president of his own party? This has be a turning point.

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NBC News‏Verified account @NBCNews 2h2 hours ago

WATCH: "Any effort to go after Mueller could be the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency," says Sen. Lindsey Graham.
Hype the drama Kyle!!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/31/17 03:45 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Can you believe a Republican senator said this about the president of his own party? This has be a turning point.

*******************************************************

NBC News‏Verified account @NBCNews 2h2 hours ago

WATCH: "Any effort to go after Mueller could be the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency," says Sen. Lindsey Graham.
Hype the drama Kyle!!
I am telling you what a Republican senator said. How is that hype?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 07/31/17 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Can you believe a Republican senator said this about the president of his own party? This has be a turning point.

*******************************************************

NBC News‏Verified account @NBCNews 2h2 hours ago

WATCH: "Any effort to go after Mueller could be the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency," says Sen. Lindsey Graham.
Hype the drama Kyle!!
I am telling you what a Republican senator said. How is that hype?
Will never happen!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/08/17 02:30 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pete...kushpmg00000009


Peter Thiel’s Support Of Trump Presidency Is Privately Faltering: Report
“There is a 50% chance this whole thing ends in disaster,” Thiel reportedly said.

By Paige Lavender

Tech billionaire Peter Thiel, a supporter of President Donald Trump who has helped advise the former real estate mogul on technology policy, is privately worried about the success of the Trump administration, according to BuzzFeed.

Reporter Ryan Mac spoke with several associates of Thiel who said he has made disparaging comments about Trump’s presidency in private while continuing to support Trump publicly.

“There is a 50% chance this whole thing ends in disaster,” two people claim Thiel said at an event with friends in January. The report also claims Thiel described the Trump administration as “incompetent” at an event in May.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/08/17 02:32 AM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-fake-news-could-doom-rupert-murdochs-dream

Fox News’ Fake News Could Doom Rupert Murdoch’s Dream
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/08/17 03:06 AM

Fewer and fewer qualified people want to work under Trump any more.

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/08/07/trump-government-overhaul-faces-new-setback-000490


Trump's government overhaul hits a speed bump

Now there's no nominee to run the Office of Personnel Management. Who's going to tackle the federal workforce?


By DANNY VINIK 08/07/2017 05:08 AM EDT

President Donald Trump’s promise to overhaul the federal government hit another obstacle last week when his pick to head the Office of Personnel Management, George Nesterczuk, quietly withdrew from consideration—leaving the administration with no nominee to run a small but crucial agency that oversees policies for all 2 million employees of the federal government and would be integral to any sweeping effort to reform its workforce.

(Note: Nesterzuk says he wants to defend his integrity. That is hard to do working for Trump)

The White House, which did not answer a request for comment, withdrew his name last Wednesday afternoon. In a letter to Trump last week, Nesterczuk said he was pulling out over the partisan atmosphere and “baseless” allegations against him. “I do not wish to be a distraction for the administration while I defend my integrity,” he wrote.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/08/17 09:55 PM

Sounds like he had some personal issues! Not Trumps fault!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/09/17 01:16 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Sounds like he had some personal issues! Not Trumps fault!
Even if he did there is no other candidates that wants that wants this important job. That is Trumps fault for sure.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/09/17 08:47 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Sounds like he had some personal issues! Not Trumps fault!
Even if he did there is no other candidates that wants that wants this important job. That is Trumps fault for sure.
Nobody wants government jobs! You can make more money in the private sector!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/09/17 10:11 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Sounds like he had some personal issues! Not Trumps fault!
Even if he did there is no other candidates that wants that wants this important job. That is Trumps fault for sure.
Nobody wants government jobs! You can make more money in the private sector!
Wow. Most people believe just the opposite. The biggest problem is that fewer and fewer honest people want to be associated with Trump and his crooked Russian buddies. Here is an example.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/09/politics/paul-manafort-search-fbi-russian-interference/index.html

FBI agents searched a home of President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, his spokesperson told CNN Wednesday.

"FBI agents executed a search warrant at one of Mr. Manafort's residences. Mr. Manafort has consistently cooperated with law enforcement and other serious inquiries and did so on this occasion as well," Jason Maloni, Manafort's spokesperson, told CNN.

The Washington Post first reported the search, which it said happened on July 26, the day after Manafort met voluntarily with the staff for the Senate intelligence committee. The incident happened without advance warning before dawn, the paper reported.

Using a search warrant, agents entered his home in Alexandria, Virginia, to seize documents and other materials that could be related to Justice Department special prosecutor Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, the Post reported.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/09/17 06:48 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/repu...kushpmg00000009

Republicans Turn Guns On Each Other In Wake Of Obamacare Repeal Fail
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/09/17 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/repu...kushpmg00000009

Republicans Turn Guns On Each Other In Wake Of Obamacare Repeal Fail

Huffington Post! I bet that's a real accurate story! LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/10/17 03:47 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/repu...kushpmg00000009

Republicans Turn Guns On Each Other In Wake Of Obamacare Repeal Fail
Huffington Post! I bet that's a real accurate story! LOL!
How about Fox news then? They are saying the same thing.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/...ource-says.html


President Donald Trump ripped into Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., in a tense private phone call Wednesday morning, a source familiar with the call told Fox News.

The source said Trump was reacting angrily to McConnell’s remarks at a Rotary Club speech Monday in his home state of Kentucky in which he suggested that the president, given his lack of political experience, suffers from “excessive expectations” about what both chambers of Congress can get done.

During the approximately 10-minute phone call, the source said, the president curtly told McConnell he did not appreciate the criticism and still expects Republican leaders to push for repealing ObamaCare, even though that has largely been shelved for now.

The source added that Trump also told McConnell he is unhappy with U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who cast a decisive vote against repealing ObamaCare without a replacement in place. McCain, who is battling brain cancer, also slammed the president’s aggressive rhetoric on North Korea this week.

The source said the president mused to McConnell that he does not understand why the majority leader is allowing McCain to keep his powerful chairmanship of the Senate Armed Services Committee after bucking the party.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/10/17 03:59 AM

Another example of Trump pitting Republican against Republican and sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-t...rsement-n791116

President Donald Trump on Tuesday night threw his support behind Luther Strange in the Alabama special election to replace Jeff Sessions, shaking up a race he’d widely been expected to stay out of.

Trump tweeted his "complete and total endorsement" for Strange — who was appointed to fill the seat temporarily in February after Sessions was confirmed as Attorney General — posting that he "has done a great job representing the people of the Great State of Alabama."

Trump is now front-and-center just days before the Tuesday special election, despite Alabama Republicans having been told in recent weeks that the White House would remain on the sidelines.

A senior Alabama GOP official told NBC News Trump's endorsement of Strange was a surprising moment for the state's Republicans. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said there was no heads up about whether the White House was going to get involved in the race — until Trump’s tweet Tuesday night.

"My jaw did drop," the official said, "because that’s big."
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/10/17 05:46 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
The country needs to be run like a business! Balance the books and cut down on the handouts!

Good. When do we start eliminating Corporate Welfare Handouts? Because Social Welfare Programs are paid for with payroll taxes, we can leave them alone, since THOSE at least are TRUE entitlements.

We can begin with Obamacare "Reform", since that's nothing more than theft from the middle and lower class, and a MASSIVE tax cut for the wealthy. Then we can make sure that the Republican Congress Replace the TRILLION$ that they've raided from Social Security, Welfare and The Treasury. Voilà, Budget Balanced and Solvent for the next 60 years.

You have some excellent ideas there, Sparky. Keep 'em coming!
whistle
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/11/17 10:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
The country needs to be run like a business! Balance the books and cut down on the handouts!

Good. When do we start eliminating Corporate Welfare Handouts? Because Social Welfare Programs are paid for with payroll taxes, we can leave them alone, since THOSE at least are TRUE entitlements.

We can begin with Obamacare "Reform", since that's nothing more than theft from the middle and lower class, and a MASSIVE tax cut for the wealthy. Then we can make sure that the Republican Congress Replace the TRILLION$ that they've raided from Social Security, Welfare and The Treasury. Voilà, Budget Balanced and Solvent for the next 60 years.

You have some excellent ideas there, Sparky. Keep 'em coming!
whistle
Lets start with the Ag station in Geneva,Hobart & William Smith & Cornell! That's gotta be hundreds of millions of handouts over the last few years!
Posted by: Teonan

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/12/17 08:28 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
The country needs to be run like a business! Balance the books and cut down on the handouts!

Good. When do we start eliminating Corporate Welfare Handouts? Because Social Welfare Programs are paid for with payroll taxes, we can leave them alone, since THOSE at least are TRUE entitlements.

We can begin with Obamacare "Reform", since that's nothing more than theft from the middle and lower class, and a MASSIVE tax cut for the wealthy. Then we can make sure that the Republican Congress Replace the TRILLION$ that they've raided from Social Security, Welfare and The Treasury. Voilà, Budget Balanced and Solvent for the next 60 years.

You have some excellent ideas there, Sparky. Keep 'em coming!
whistle
Lets start with the Ag station in Geneva,Hobart & William Smith & Cornell! That's gotta be hundreds of millions of handouts over the last few years!

Little doubt YOU'D start by slashing education. Idiot.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/12/17 01:55 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Lets start with the Ag station in Geneva,Hobart & William Smith & Cornell! That's gotta be hundreds of millions of handouts over the last few years!

Yer changing the subject again there, Slappy.

You want to go after tax burdens? Go after the BIG ones. Corporate welfare amounts to MORE than twice that of ALL social welfare programs COMBINED. In fact, most companies that receive these subsidies are enjoying all-time record profits. It benefits those with absolutely NO need for it.


Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/12/17 06:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan
Little doubt YOU'D start by slashing education.

Sure, why not? Keep 'em uneducated and ignorant, just like the current C.I.C. wink eek
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/12/17 08:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Lets start with the Ag station in Geneva,Hobart & William Smith & Cornell! That's gotta be hundreds of millions of handouts over the last few years!

Yer changing the subject again there, Slappy.

You want to go after tax burdens? Go after the BIG ones. Corporate welfare amounts to MORE than twice that of ALL social welfare programs COMBINED. In fact, most companies that receive these subsidies are enjoying all-time record profits. It benefits those with absolutely NO need for it.


I am BIMBO! Do you realize how much money is doled out to college & universities? Take the Ag station for example.How much money has been doled out to Cornell for the Ag Tech. Park, Millions in new equipment for the research labs, Viticulture center and now they want to build more! If all this research is so valuable let the big Ag companies that benefit from it pay for it not the taxpayers! Plus each year they come back for more money because it's not self sustaining requiring more handouts from the taxpayers! I know you don't like to hear that because it hits close to home! LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/13/17 06:31 PM

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/colum...813-column.html

By no means should we assume that every uneducated or undereducated white Trump supporter would join a hate group or even become a sympathizer. Most of them likely were appalled by the violent images that came out of Charlottesville. Neither should we think that well-educated whites can't buy into the white supremacist argument that America has somehow been stolen and needs to be brought back to where it belongs. Indeed, there has been a recent movement to recruit on college campuses.

But the people who are most likely to be swayed by the bigoted rhetoric of white nationalist, neo-Nazi and armed "Patriot" groups certainly can be found among Trump's low-income, less educated supporters. They are among those who tend to feel most vulnerable to the changing demographics.

It is clear why Trump refused to denounce these groups when he addressed the Charlottesville violence. People who fear that the America that was created to advance the prosperity of white men is being taken away are a crucial part of his base.

And with recent polls showing that he is losing support among his most loyal supporters, Trump cannot afford to turn on them.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/13/17 07:12 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Lets start with the Ag station in Geneva,Hobart & William Smith & Cornell! That's gotta be hundreds of millions of handouts over the last few years!

Yer changing the subject again there, Slappy.

You want to go after tax burdens? Go after the BIG ones. Corporate welfare amounts to MORE than twice that of ALL social welfare programs COMBINED. In fact, most companies that receive these subsidies are enjoying all-time record profits. It benefits those with absolutely NO need for it.


I am BIMBO! Do you realize how much money is doled out to college & universities? Take the Ag station for example.How much money has been doled out to Cornell for the Ag Tech. Park, Millions in new equipment for the research labs, Viticulture center and now they want to build more! If all this research is so valuable let the big Ag companies that benefit from it pay for it not the taxpayers! Plus each year they come back for more money because it's not self sustaining requiring more handouts from the taxpayers! I know you don't like to hear that because it hits close to home! LOL!

You're damned right I do.

Far-right website "The Federalist" puts the total cost to taxpayers for Corporate Welfare at over $100 BILLION per year. Which works out to, on average, about $6000 annually for each American family.
http://thefederalist.com/2013/09/30/calculating-the-real-cost-of-corporate-welfare/

Conservative news organization "US News and World Report" Puts the amount the federal govt spends on education at $68 Billion annually and declining.
https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-m...es-the-money-go

% of US GDP spent on Education - Under 3%

Education spending is arguably the best tool for helping individuals, farmers, local economies, the environment and for ensuring that the US remains competitive in a World Economy.

Corporate Welfare and Tax Breaks are inarguably a MASSIVE drain on the US economy AND taxpayers alike. Especially when considering that the vast majority of companies receiving such subsidies are raking in record profits. There are exceptions, of course, but such subsidies should exclusively be applied according to need and benefit.

As far as the research conducted at the New York State Agricultural Experiment Station, the benefits of the Ag Station are virtually endless:

https://genevahistoricalsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/experiment-station-panels.pdf

You're trying to conflate two utterly disparate situations.

Now, quit highjacking the thread.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/13/17 10:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Lets start with the Ag station in Geneva,Hobart & William Smith & Cornell! That's gotta be hundreds of millions of handouts over the last few years!

Yer changing the subject again there, Slappy.

You want to go after tax burdens? Go after the BIG ones. Corporate welfare amounts to MORE than twice that of ALL social welfare programs COMBINED. In fact, most companies that receive these subsidies are enjoying all-time record profits. It benefits those with absolutely NO need for it.


I am BIMBO! Do you realize how much money is doled out to college & universities? Take the Ag station for example.How much money has been doled out to Cornell for the Ag Tech. Park, Millions in new equipment for the research labs, Viticulture center and now they want to build more! If all this research is so valuable let the big Ag companies that benefit from it pay for it not the taxpayers! Plus each year they come back for more money because it's not self sustaining requiring more handouts from the taxpayers! I know you don't like to hear that because it hits close to home! LOL!

You're damned right I do.

Far-right website "The Federalist" puts the total cost to taxpayers for Corporate Welfare at over $100 BILLION per year. Which works out to, on average, about $6000 annually for each American family.
http://thefederalist.com/2013/09/30/calculating-the-real-cost-of-corporate-welfare/

Conservative news organization "US News and World Report" Puts the amount the federal govt spends on education at $68 Billion annually and declining.
https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-m...es-the-money-go

% of US GDP spent on Education - Under 3%

Education spending is arguably the best tool for helping individuals, farmers, local economies, the environment and for ensuring that the US remains competitive in a World Economy.

Corporate Welfare and Tax Breaks are inarguably a MASSIVE drain on the US economy AND taxpayers alike. Especially when considering that the vast majority of companies receiving such subsidies are raking in record profits. There are exceptions, of course, but such subsidies should exclusively be applied according to need and benefit.

As far as the research conducted at the New York State Agricultural Experiment Station, the benefits of the Ag Station are virtually endless:

https://genevahistoricalsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/experiment-station-panels.pdf

You're trying to conflate two utterly disparate situations.

Now, quit highjacking the thread.
Why should taxpayers pay for research to benefit huge Ag companies? If this research is so important let the Ag companies pay for it not taxpayers! You like it because it guarantees you a job that you basicly can do nothing and still get to keep your job!
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/14/17 02:50 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Why should taxpayers pay for research to benefit huge Ag companies? If this research is so important let the Ag companies pay for it not taxpayers! You like it because it guarantees you a job that you basicly can do nothing and still get to keep your job!

1) "Huge AG Companies" (as you so imindlessly refer to them) are only a very small part of those benefitting from said research.

2) As I've repeatedly mentioned, I'm 100% self-employed, and have nothing whatsoever to do with Cornell, et al. Which allows me to do as little or as much as I care to and STILL make bundles of moolah! cool

3) You're certifiable.
crazy crazy crazy
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/14/17 03:03 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
If this research is so important let the Ag companies pay for it not taxpayers!

Wow! Talk about imbecilic reasoning.

You're certifiable. crazy
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/14/17 08:05 PM

Wow. A Fox news host no less.

A Fox News anchor railed against President Donald Trump on Monday over his failure to immediately condemn white supremacists after a rally to protest the removal of a Confederate statue in Charlottesville, Virginia, this weekend turned deadly.

Eboni K. Williams, co-host of “The Fox News Specialists,” called Trump’s initially vague condemnation of Saturday’s bloody clashes “cowardly and dangerous.”

“I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt,” Williams said during her show on the Fox News Channel, a network known for its Trump-friendly coverage. “I can no longer do that, Mr. President. No more benefit --- all doubt.”

You’ve decided that the portion of your base that is absolutely racist is so significant, so valuable that you hesitate --- even in the face of blatant, flagrant hatred ---- to risk turning them off. Eboni K. Williams, co-host of “The Fox News Specialists”


“President Trump, I do not know your heart, but what I do know for sure is that you’ve clearly done the math,” Williams said. “You’ve decided that the portion of your base that is absolutely racist is so significant, so valuable that you hesitate ---- even in the face of blatant, flagrant hatred --- to risk turning them off and thereby crippling your political stronghold.”

She continued:

You remember when you said your base would stick with you even if you shot someone on Fifth Avenue? I think you are right. I think they will stick with you through anything. ... They will even stick with you while you calm their fears and deep-seated anger around their perceived depreciation of the intrinsic value of whiteness in this country. Let’s be honest: That’s what this is all really about.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/14/17 09:02 PM

Someday soon Trump is going to break his arm trying to pat himself on the back. I find him more disgusting every day.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.3410624

After relentless pressure spanning the political spectrum, President Trump grudgingly condemned white supremacists, the KKK and neo-Nazis for Saturday’s violence in Charlottesville, Va.

“Racism is evil,” Trump said during a brief address at the White House on Monday. “And those that cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

Hours later, he took to Twitter to complain that his belated repudiation of hate groups wasn’t met with more acclaim.

“Made additional remarks on Charlottesville and realize once again that the #Fake News Media will never be satisfied...truly bad people!” he wrote.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/14/17 09:24 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Someday soon Trump is going to break his arm trying to pat himself on the back. I find him more disgusting every day.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.3410624

After relentless pressure spanning the political spectrum, President Trump grudgingly condemned white supremacists, the KKK and neo-Nazis for Saturday’s violence in Charlottesville, Va.

“Racism is evil,” Trump said during a brief address at the White House on Monday. “And those that cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

Hours later, he took to Twitter to complain that his belated repudiation of hate groups wasn’t met with more acclaim.

“Made additional remarks on Charlottesville and realize once again that the #Fake News Media will never be satisfied...truly bad people!” he wrote.
No matter what he said you sore loser idiots would find fault with it!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/15/17 02:18 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
No matter what he said you sore loser idiots would find fault with it!
So many people miss Obama now when we see what an idiot replaced him.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-message-goes-viral-charlottesville-violence-202918081.html

Washington (AFP) - A tweet from Barack Obama drew more than two million "likes" by Monday as the former US president offered a message of tolerance following a deadly weekend clash at a white supremacist rally.

"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion," Obama said in the message, quoting the late South African leader Nelson Mandela.

Obama's tweet garnered 2.3 million "likes," the third most popular of all time, according to the Twitter-tracking site Favstar. The message was retweeted 980,000 times.

Obama's tweet struck a chord after the death of a 32-year-old woman hit by a car driven into a crowd by a suspected white supremacist on Saturday in Charlottesville, Virginia.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/15/17 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
No matter what he said you sore loser idiots would find fault with it!
So many people miss Obama now when we see what an idiot replaced him.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-message-goes-viral-charlottesville-violence-202918081.html

Washington (AFP) - A tweet from Barack Obama drew more than two million "likes" by Monday as the former US president offered a message of tolerance following a deadly weekend clash at a white supremacist rally.

"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion," Obama said in the message, quoting the late South African leader Nelson Mandela.

Obama's tweet garnered 2.3 million "likes," the third most popular of all time, according to the Twitter-tracking site Favstar. The message was retweeted 980,000 times.

Obama's tweet struck a chord after the death of a 32-year-old woman hit by a car driven into a crowd by a suspected white supremacist on Saturday in Charlottesville, Virginia.
Yeah a lot of people! ROFLMAO!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/16/17 12:43 AM


Obama’s response to Charlottesville violence is the most liked tweet in Twitter’s history

By Kristine Phillips August 15 at 10:38 PM

Unlike some former presidents, Barack Obama is showing no signs of completely abandoning public life.

Since leaving office, Obama has commented on major events or controversies, including the terrorist attack in Manchester, England, and Sen. John McCain's brain cancer diagnosis. He did so again on Saturday, after the deadly violence in Charlottesville.

“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion … People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love … For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite,” Obama said, quoting former South African president Nelson Mandela in tweets.

The first tweet, which shows a picture of Obama smiling at four children, has been retweeted more than 1.1 million times and liked 2.723 million times as of Tuesday evening.

The message became the most liked tweet of all time, surpassing Ariana Grande's response to the deadly terrorist attack after her concert in Manchester. It also ranks No. 7 among the most retweeted tweets according to Favstar, a tweet tracking site.

Obama has used Twitter only sporadically since January, tweeting a handful of times every month to weigh in on national conversations. It's unclear if Obama himself or a social media team is handling his Twitter handle.

President Trump's response to the violence in Charlottesville has become the subject of widespread criticisms. In a statement Saturday, he condemned hatred and bigotry from “many sides,” not saying which “sides” he was referring to, or whose hatred and bigotry he was condemning. Many Democrats and some Republicans took issue with Trump for not calling out white nationalists or white supremacists, even after a car, allegedly driven by a neo-Nazi sympathizer, plowed into a crowd of counterprotesters, killing a 32-year-old woman and injuring 19 others.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/16/17 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585

Obama’s response to Charlottesville violence is the most liked tweet in Twitter’s history

By Kristine Phillips August 15 at 10:38 PM

Unlike some former presidents, Barack Obama is showing no signs of completely abandoning public life.

Since leaving office, Obama has commented on major events or controversies, including the terrorist attack in Manchester, England, and Sen. John McCain's brain cancer diagnosis. He did so again on Saturday, after the deadly violence in Charlottesville.

“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion … People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love … For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite,” Obama said, quoting former South African president Nelson Mandela in tweets.

The first tweet, which shows a picture of Obama smiling at four children, has been retweeted more than 1.1 million times and liked 2.723 million times as of Tuesday evening.

The message became the most liked tweet of all time, surpassing Ariana Grande's response to the deadly terrorist attack after her concert in Manchester. It also ranks No. 7 among the most retweeted tweets according to Favstar, a tweet tracking site.

Obama has used Twitter only sporadically since January, tweeting a handful of times every month to weigh in on national conversations. It's unclear if Obama himself or a social media team is handling his Twitter handle.

President Trump's response to the violence in Charlottesville has become the subject of widespread criticisms. In a statement Saturday, he condemned hatred and bigotry from “many sides,” not saying which “sides” he was referring to, or whose hatred and bigotry he was condemning. Many Democrats and some Republicans took issue with Trump for not calling out white nationalists or white supremacists, even after a car, allegedly driven by a neo-Nazi sympathizer, plowed into a crowd of counterprotesters, killing a 32-year-old woman and injuring 19 others.
You idiots make a big deal out of nothing all in the name of partisan politics!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/17/17 01:29 AM

When Trump loses Fox news he is done.

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Franklin Delano Roosevelt once said the presidency is “preeminently a place of moral leadership.” By drawing an equivalence between white nationalist groups and people protesting on behalf of equality, pundits and historians say, Donald Trump has ceded that responsibility.

Trump ignited a firestorm of bipartisan criticism this week when he blamed “many sides” and “both sides” for the deadly violence at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, and defended racist demonstrators there. Protesters in Charlottesville waved Nazi flags and burning torches, and shouted racist and anti-Semitic slogans as they marched, but Trump ― after describing racism as “evil” on Monday ― insisted Tuesday that many people at the rally “were there to innocently protest” the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

“What Trump did today is a moral disgrace,” Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer said Tuesday.

Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/17/17 03:22 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/politics/bob-corker-criticizes-trump-charlottesville/index.html

Sen. Bob Corker slammed President Donald Trump's handling of the racially motivated protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, charging that the President "has not demonstrated he understands the character of this nation."

The Tennessee Republican told reporters in Chattanooga, Tennessee, on Thursday that he thinks there must be "radical changes" within the White House.

"The President has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to be successful," Corker said, according to a video posted by local news website Nooga.com.

"He has not demonstrated that he understands what has made this nation great and what it is today, and he's got to demonstrate the characteristics of a president who understands that," Corker added.

Corker is the latest Republican senator to criticize Trump's handling of the Charlottesville protests. Trump attacked two other Republican senators — Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Jeff Flake of Arizona — on Twitter on Thursday morning over their criticisms of him.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/17/17 06:36 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-stocks-idUSKCN1AX1AM

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. stocks sold off on Thursday, with the S&P 500 recording its biggest daily percentage drop in three months as escalating worries about the Trump administration's ability to push through its economic agenda rattled investors.

The benchmark index also closed at its lowest since July 11, with the day's move marking the first time since the Nov. 8 election of two days with more than 1 percent declines so close together. The index dropped 1.4 percent last Thursday, as concern over a possible conflict between the United States and North Korea hit the market.

The falls mark a break from a period of low volatility and subdued moves. The S&P 500 has had just four 1 percent declines this year.

Investors appeared to be losing faith in the Trump administration's ability to move forward with tax cuts and the rest of its domestic economic agenda, some strategists said. The latest cause for concern was speculation over the possible departure of National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn.

"You've elected a Republican administration which should be good news for the market, good news for business, and they're getting precious little done. And you had a big rally based on that," said Stephen Massocca, senior vice president at Wedbush Securities in San Francisco.

With valuation levels considered high in many stocks, investors may be more prone to sell. "Anything can be an excuse," he said.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/18/17 06:05 AM

Shocking story,

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...ifies-me-215502

I Used To Be a Neo-Nazi. Charlottesville Terrifies Me.

By TIMOTHY ZAAL August 18, 2017

When I was a skinhead, living in the Los Angeles area in the 1980s, I remember watching a favorite video with my fellow extremists. It was footage of the 1979 Greensboro massacre, when Ku Klux Klan members shot and killed five people at a workers’ demonstration in North Carolina. A group of cars pulled up, KKK members jumped out of the vehicles, killed a group of communists, then drove away.

We laughed at it.

This past weekend, the news from Charlottesville brought back that memory—of being surrounded by fellow white supremacists in my old house, watching our odd choice of Friday-night entertainment. Today, of course, you can find clips like these online. In those days, extremist groups had mail-order services where you could purchase VHS tapes. That was where we bought it.

I gave up being a skinhead years ago. But now, I’m getting uncomfortable feelings of déjà vu as I watch footage of the bloody events in Charlottesville. The white supremacist organizations of my day were different, but after researching these so-called “alt-right” groups, and seeing the violence this weekend, I realize they’re all too similar. They hate the same minorities we did. They spew the same conspiracy theories. They consume the same kinds of propaganda.

But there’s one huge difference: These newer offshoots have been far more successful than we could ever have dreamed. When you see crowds of hundreds marching through the streets with their faces uncovered, when white supremacist leader Richard Spencer holds a press conference a few days after a woman was killed by one of his fellow travelers and hosts reporters in his home, it becomes clear just how much more terrifying this new generation of extremists is. They’re savvier than we were. Better connected.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/18/17 07:41 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/body-politic-rejects-donald-trump-160755837.html

As President Trump spent the week flailing in a web of his own contradictions and half-hearted retractions in his handling of the deaths in Charlottesville, the question of his survival in office inevitably began creeping into the political dialogue. Official betting odds that the president would be gone from the White House before the end of his first term spiked on Monday when he memorably blamed the deadly violence on “many sides,” and by Thursday had settled at near even money. That same day, Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn., ranking member of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, said he planned to introduce articles of impeachment, an idea that has also been floated by some high-profile Democratic legislators including Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

But Cohen’s justification — “President Trump has failed the presidential test of moral leadership. No moral president would ever shy away from outright condemning hatred, intolerance and bigotry” — suggests that his effort is, at best, premature. There is no “test of moral leadership” in the Constitution, and failure to condemn bigotry, however reprehensible, wouldn’t seem to rise to the level of the “high crimes and misdemeanors” that the Founding Fathers set as the bar for removal from office.

Impeachment (in the House of Representatives) and conviction (in the Senate) require a legal basis, and it’s not clear that one exists yet; it is most likely to arise out of the investigation by Special Counsel Robert Mueller into Trump’s business dealings or his handling of the investigation into Russian meddling in last year’s election. But it is also a political process, and the political climate is moving in that direction. Political not just in the narrow sense of which party controls Congress, but in a broad sense that embraces the media, public opinion and the much-reviled (by Trump) “establishment.” It goes sometimes by the term “body politic” — and like the human body, it has a mechanism for protecting itself by rejecting what it perceives as alien or harmful. And that, clearly, is what is happening to Trump.

To be sure, Trump’s background in real estate and entertainment made him less than a natural fit for the presidency from the outset, and it was only to be expected that the inhabitants of what he likes to call the “swamp” would regard him with suspicion. But the past several weeks have seen an extraordinary effort from many sides to marginalize and isolate the president, to seal him off where he can do the least damage to the institutions of American democracy. Trump calls for one last effort to pass a health care bill, and the Republican-led Congress ignores him, with a pointed observation from Mitch McConnell that the president doesn’t understand the legislative process. Trump equivocates on denouncing neo-Nazi and white supremacist marchers, and senators, including many from his own party, do it instead, in some cases specifically and personally calling him to task. Trump tweets out a policy change to dismiss transgender servicemen and -women; the Pentagon says it doesn’t know anything about it, and weeks later the military brass have taken no action to implement it.

The nation’s most prominent corporate executives, bankers and labor leaders resign their prestigious seats on Trump’s advisory councils, leading him to disband the organizations altogether. Most of the media long ago crossed the red line of labeling Trump a liar, but Thursday even the reliably Trump-boosting New York Post, owned by his ally Rupert Murdoch, called him out for promulgating the “fake story” of Gen. John Pershing executing Muslim prisoners with bullets dipped in pigs’ blood.

Every president faces opposition, of course, and rumors about various Cabinet members on the verge of quitting are nothing new in Washington. But what is so unusual about Trump’s position is that the opposition he faces isn’t just political; it is coming from Democrats, obviously, but also from members of his own party (earlier this week, Chuck Todd invited all 52 GOP senators to discuss Trump on his weekday show “MTP Daily”; not one accepted). And it’s coming from outsiders whose interests and positions are actually aligned with his. The body politic is rejecting not Trump’s policies but Trump himself, for qualities and behavior so aberrant in a president that they seem to threaten the whole organism — his reckless swagger in foreign affairs, his blindness toward bigotry and violence, his utter disregard for civic norms and for the truth. The country is in a fever over Donald Trump; the immune system is on high alert; but as always in politics, the prognosis is anything but clear.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/19/17 01:53 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/...or-is-over.html

Steve Bannon exits White House, says the presidency Trump campaigned for is 'over'
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/19/17 08:27 AM

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...215505?lo=ap_d1

Week 13: Hounded on All Sides, a Cornered President Snarls

While Mueller pokes his cage, Trump plays guard dog to Confederate culture and heritage.

By JACK SHAFER

August 19, 2017
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/19/17 06:21 PM

Are these the same polls that said Hillary was going to win?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/19/17 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Are these the same polls that said Hillary was going to win?
The polls said Hillary was going to win by a small amount in the electoral college. Trump won by a small amount in the electoral college. Then Trump lied and said he won by the biggest electoral margin ever. When this was pointed out to him that was not true he lied and said that he won by the largest amount ever by a Republican. When it was pointed out to him that was not true, he lied and said he won the popular vote. When it was pointed out to him that was not true, he said he had the biggest inauguration crowd ever. This was a lie. Need I go on?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien

Donald Trump has repeatedly labeled his political opponents liars. He dubbed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) Lyin' Ted when it became clear that Cruz was a serious rival for his nomination; he called Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) an "even bigger liar" than Cruz. He dubbed Dr. Ben Carson a "pathological liar" and said former Florida Governor Jeb Bush's lies were almost as bad as Cruz's. Trump has termed virtually every mildly adversarial media member a liar, too.

But there's only one truly massive liar in this race: Donald Trump. When Politico attempted to measure how many lies Trump told over the course of 4.6 hours of speeches, they found that he lied, on average, once every five minutes. When Huffington Post catalogued his lies over the course of just one town hall event, they came up with 71 lies.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/19/17 09:37 PM

OH BOY! Politico & Huffington Post! Talk about biased liars!
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/20/17 12:05 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Need I go on?


No. No need to go one. Trump is the President. And he's not going anywhere for the next 8 years.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/20/17 01:45 AM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Need I go on?

No. No need to go one. Trump is the President. And he's not going anywhere for the next 8 years.
8 years? Not a chance.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washingt...-htmlstory.html

A writer who has known President Trump for three decades thinks his time in the White House is almost up.

Tony Schwartz spent 18 months ghostwriting Trump's bestselling 1987 memoir "The Art of the Deal," which was based on Schwartz's interviews with the brash New York developer who dominated the tabloids.

After Trump's insurgent presidential campaign gathered steam last year, Schwartz became one of his most outspoken critics. The author said he deeply regretted his role in shaping Trump's public image.

Over the last two years, Schwartz has tweeted about what he learned while working with Trump in the 1980s. On Thursday, he took to Twitter to make a brash prediction of his own: Trump will resign from office before the year is over.

"Trump is going to resign and declare victory before Mueller and congress leave him no choice," he tweeted. "Trump's presidency is effectively over."

Robert Mueller III, a former director of the FBI, is leading a criminal investigation of whether anyone in the Trump campaign cooperated with Russian intelligence during the race last year.

Four Congressional committees also are investigating Russia's meddling in the 2016 election through hacking of Democratic Party emails and other tactics. U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Moscow's goal was to help Trump win.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/20/17 01:46 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
OH BOY! Politico & Huffington Post! Talk about biased liars!
says the guy who refuses to reveal a source of his great knowledge. And belittles the dozens of sources I provide. You are hilarious.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/20/17 05:03 AM

NEW ORLEANS ― Chants of “No Trump, no KKK, no fascist USA” echoed throughout the French Quarter on Saturday as thousands of people marched in a peaceful ― but loud ― protest against racism and white supremacy.

Under the scorching August sun, the demonstrators marched from Congo Square to Jackson Square, starting at 1 p.m. local time. They were led by Malcolm Suber, a New Orleans activist and member of the group Take Em Down NOLA, which advocates for the removal of racist symbols and monuments.

Suber told HuffPost the rally was organized for two reasons. “This is our solidarity with the people in Charlottesville, Virginia, as well as a notice to our local leaders that we want all statues dedicated to white supremacists taken down,” he said.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/20/17 05:07 AM

DALLAS - Thousands of people attended a rally against white supremacy in what has been mostly a peaceful demonstration, but as night fell, a small faction of that crowd broke away and arguments began to grow tense.

At the height of the rally, about 2,300 people showed up at Dallas City Hall Plaza in downtown Dallas. The rally called for unity and acceptance as demonstrators held signs of support for all races and religions, leaving no room for hate. More than a dozen activists, politicians and faith leaders spoke at the event. Afterwards, a candlelight vigil followed.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/20/17 01:42 PM

A woman demonstrated perfectly how best to tackle hate, as she helped supporters of President Donald Trump navigate through a crowd that was yelling and spitting at them during a rally in Boston Saturday.

The woman, a 27-year-old named Imani Williams from Connecticut, told the Boston Globe she couldn’t think of a better way to counter much of the hate that’s bubbled to the surface in America than helping people with whom she disagreed.

“You know, I don’t believe in this right-wing narrative of the alt-left and how we are crazed and looking to get violent,” she told the Globe. “What better way to show them they are wrong?”

Her comments came a week after white supremacist groups and counterprotesters clashed in Charlottesville, Virginia, left one person dead and 19 injured.

Trump said on Tuesday there were “very fine people on both sides” at the Charlottesville event and that counterprotesters, whom he dubbed the “alt-left,” were responsible too. He has also strongly criticized efforts to remove Confederate statues. Prominent white supremacists have praised his comments.

Williams, who is black, told the Globe she didn’t think white supremacists would give her the same kind of help she gave on Saturday, but that didn’t matter.

“I couldn’t get through a KKK rally with the same treatment,” she said. “But we shouldn’t be like them.”
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/20/17 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
A woman demonstrated perfectly how best to tackle hate, as she helped supporters of President Donald Trump navigate through a crowd that was yelling and spitting at them during a rally in Boston Saturday.

The woman, a 27-year-old named Imani Williams from Connecticut, told the Boston Globe she couldn’t think of a better way to counter much of the hate that’s bubbled to the surface in America than helping people with whom she disagreed.

“You know, I don’t believe in this right-wing narrative of the alt-left and how we are crazed and looking to get violent,” she told the Globe. “What better way to show them they are wrong?”

Her comments came a week after white supremacist groups and counterprotesters clashed in Charlottesville, Virginia, left one person dead and 19 injured.

Trump said on Tuesday there were “very fine people on both sides” at the Charlottesville event and that counterprotesters, whom he dubbed the “alt-left,” were responsible too. He has also strongly criticized efforts to remove Confederate statues. Prominent white supremacists have praised his comments.

Williams, who is black, told the Globe she didn’t think white supremacists would give her the same kind of help she gave on Saturday, but that didn’t matter.

“I couldn’t get through a KKK rally with the same treatment,” she said. “But we shouldn’t be like them.”
1st amendment Kyle!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/20/17 08:13 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
1st amendment Kyle!
Yes first amendment? You throw that out with no explanation of what you mean by it? You are clueless.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/20/17 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
1st amendment Kyle!
Yes first amendment? You throw that out with no explanation of what you mean by it? You are clueless.
I thought you might be able to figure it out but I guess not! People have the right to protest even if you don't like the message!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/21/17 11:48 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
1st amendment Kyle!
Yes first amendment? You throw that out with no explanation of what you mean by it? You are clueless.
I thought you might be able to figure it out but I guess not! People have the right to protest even if you don't like the message!
I agree with that. But when they use Nazi symbols they got to expect rage from many people whose ancestors fought the Nazi's in WWII to save America.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/23/17 09:43 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
1st amendment Kyle!
Yes first amendment? You throw that out with no explanation of what you mean by it? You are clueless.
I thought you might be able to figure it out but I guess not! People have the right to protest even if you don't like the message!
I agree with that. But when they use Nazi symbols they got to expect rage from many people whose ancestors fought the Nazi's in WWII to save America.
Most of those protesters weren't even around then! Most of them just want to raise hell under the umbrella of being a protester!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/24/17 03:55 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Most of those protesters weren't even around then!
No of course not. It is sad that we have to fight Nazism a second time. There is a saying that those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/28/17 10:54 AM

Freedom of speech Kyle whether we agree with it or not!
Posted by: scwoodchuck

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/28/17 12:16 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Most of those protesters weren't even around then!
No of course not. It is sad that we have to fight Nazism a second time. There is a saying that those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Kyle you need to research Nazism a little more and then objectively evaluate your position. The left may be more like Nazis than the right.
Definition, TOP DEFINITION
nazi
An acronym for National Socialist; from the German NAtionale soZIalist.
Refers to members of the National Socialist party, or anything to do with the National Socialist party.
"The Nazis" is much easier than saying "The National Socialist Party" in essays about 1930's Germany.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/28/17 01:02 PM

Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Most of those protesters weren't even around then!
No of course not. It is sad that we have to fight Nazism a second time. There is a saying that those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Kyle you need to research Nazism a little more and then objectively evaluate your position. The left may be more like Nazis than the right.
Definition, TOP DEFINITION
nazi
An acronym for National Socialist; from the German NAtionale soZIalist.
Refers to members of the National Socialist party, or anything to do with the National Socialist party.
"The Nazis" is much easier than saying "The National Socialist Party" in essays about 1930's Germany.
It is the right who demonstrated shouting their hatred of Jews, not the left. One of them gave a TV interview where he said he couldn't stand to see that bastard Kushner with a beautiful woman.
Posted by: scwoodchuck

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/28/17 05:49 PM

Are you saying that because of a few the entire right agrees with that sort of thing ! You wouldn't be political profiling would you ?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/28/17 10:19 PM

Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Are you saying that because of a few the entire right agrees with that sort of thing ! You wouldn't be political profiling would you ?
LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/29/17 12:54 AM

Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Are you saying that because of a few the entire right agrees with that sort of thing ! You wouldn't be political profiling would you ?
Birds of a feather flock together. Trump said that there were some fine people marching in Charllottesville with the alt right. Someone on TV said if you see there are Nazi's marching and KKK marching you should immediately refuse to join them or you will not be considered a fine person. Birds of a feather flock together. WWII veterans who fought the original Nazi's said they never expected to the neo-nazi's marching in this country.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/29/17 09:58 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Are you saying that because of a few the entire right agrees with that sort of thing ! You wouldn't be political profiling would you ?
Birds of a feather flock together. Trump said that there were some fine people marching in Charllottesville with the alt right. Someone on TV said if you see there are Nazi's marching and KKK marching you should immediately refuse to join them or you will not be considered a fine person. Birds of a feather flock together. WWII veterans who fought the original Nazi's said they never expected to the neo-nazi's marching in this country.
IDK Kyle! You have the Clinton crooks on the left and you follow them!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/30/17 11:31 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-spreading-fake-news-142929070.html

Fox News is Spreading Fake News About Hurricane Harvey
Newsweek Chris Riotta,Newsweek Tue, Aug 29 7:29 AM PDT
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/30/17 11:34 AM

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/30/ted-cruz-hurricane-harvey-response-chris-christie-242170

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on Wednesday slammed Texas Sen. Ted Cruz as a hypocrite for seeking aid for Texas when he was unwilling to support a similar effort in the Northeast in 2012.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/30/17 11:35 AM

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/30/trump-pardon-joe-arpaio-chris-christie-242168

Controversial former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio was not deserving of the pardon he was granted last week by President Donald Trump, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Wednesday morning, because he has been unwilling to admit guilt or show contrition for the crime of which he was convicted.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/31/17 02:31 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trevor-noah-apos-buddy-apos-185247117.html

Reports that a Donald Trump associate tried to forge a real estate deal in Russia that he said would help Trump become president got Trevor Noah buzzing Tuesday on “The Daily Show.” Especially one email in particular.

“Buddy our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Felix Sater wrote in a 2015 note to Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, outlets noted. “I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this.”

Noah had a few things to say about Sater’s controversial past and then concluded the email could boost investigations into the Trump campaign’s alleged collusion with Russia. Only the host put it more colorfully:

This “buddy boy” email may not be the smoking gun for Trump, but what it could end up being is the broken taillight ― the thing that gives law enforcement the excuse they need to look into Trump’s trunk. And we all know he’s got a lot of junk in that trunk.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 08/31/17 12:14 PM

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017...-trump-ignores/

US Deputy Attorney General Warns About the Right-Wing Terror Threat Trump Ignores

Rod Rosenstein details plots and attacks by “violent domestic extremists.”

Mark FollmanAug. 30, 2017 7:17 PM
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/02/17 07:45 PM

Trump is totally clueless.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/president-trump-to-hurricane-harvey-survivors-have-a-good-time

President Trump to Hurricane Harvey Survivors: ‘Have A Good Time!’
The president visited a convention center-turned-emergency shelter in Houston with a broad smile and a message for Hurricane Harvey survivors: turn that frown upside-down!

Seven days after the first major hurricane to make landfall in the United States in a dozen years struck the coast of Texas, leaving hundreds of square miles underwater and at least 50 people dead, a buoyant President Donald Trump arrived in Houston on Saturday morning to urge victims of the storm’s devastation to “have a good time!” in the face of losing their homes and loved ones.

During a visit to the NRG Center, a convention center in downtown Houston that has been converted into an emergency shelter for more than a thousand Texans forced from their homes by Hurricane Harvey, President Trump posed for selfies with survivors of the storm that his own FEMA director dubbed “probably the worst” disaster in state history.

“They’re really happy with what’s going on,” the president, clad in a presidential windbreaker, told reporters, summing up the praise shelter residents had for the government’s—and his own—response to the storm. “It’s something that’s been very well received. Even by you guys, it’s been very well received.”

(Trump’s estimation of his reception in the Lone Star State runs counter to the views of some Texans, who told The Daily Beast in anticipation of the president’s visit that they wished Trump would “look out for flood victims instead of waving flags.”)
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/03/17 07:23 AM

Trump is constantly tone deaf on all topics. Then the media forces him to do a do over.

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On his second visit to Houston this week, President Trump on Saturday visited an emergency relief center to meet some of the victims of Hurricane Harvey. The president, who was accompanied by first lady Melania Trump, was seen handing out hot dogs and posing for photos with Houston residents forced out of their homes by catastrophic flooding. He said he was seeing “a love of love” and “a lot of happiness” as the city recovers from the storm. “The message is that things are working out well. Really, I think people appreciate what’s been done. It’s been done very efficiently, very well, and that’s what we want. We’re very happy with the way everything is going.

A lot of love. There’s a lot of love,” Trump said. He also visited with children affected by the storm, who he said are “doing great.” Trump faced harsh criticism for his first visit to the flood-ravaged city, with critics saying his decision to boast about high turnout rather than commenting on the storm’s victims was tone deaf.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/04/17 09:45 AM

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/09/when-to-support-donald-trump-a-handy-guide/

Dan McLaughlin has a question:

Do Liberal Writers Really Believe In An Obligation To Oppose Everything Trump Does?

If you follow many liberal/progressive writers or pundits, you hear an awful lot of variations on the argument that there’s an absolute moral obligation to oppose everything Trump and his Administration do – every proposal, every initiative, regardless of its merits as policy.

I wouldn’t call it a moral obligation, exactly. More like a handy heuristic. Donald Trump has an almost unerring instinct for lousy policy, even by conservative standards, so it makes sense to oppose everything out of the box. If, after intensive study, it turns out that he’s accidentally proposed something worthwhile, then sure: go ahead and support it. Just don’t expect it to happen very often.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 04:44 AM

Barack Obama‏ @ThePresObama 12h12 hours ago

Happy #LaborDay to all the immigrant workers who are doing the jobs America won't. #DACA
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 04:44 AM

Barack Obama liked

George Takei‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei 22h22 hours ago

Only a bully would target the most vulnerable: honorable trans servicemembers and the undocumented who have lived here since childhood.
517 replies 6,814 retweets 24,023 likes
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 04:46 AM

George Takei‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei 14h14 hours ago

Donald's decision to reverse DACA should not be surprising. He has no positive agenda, he simply longs to undo everything Obama accomplished
1,026 replies 7,667 retweets 24,200 likes
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 07:44 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
George Takei‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei 14h14 hours ago

Donald's decision to reverse DACA should not be surprising. He has no positive agenda, he simply longs to undo everything Obama accomplished
1,026 replies 7,667 retweets 24,200 likes


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Donald's decision to reverse DACA should not be surprising.


Good!

Quote:
He has no positive agenda


Sorry George, but you don't know what you're talking about yet again, George you try sticking to what you know, like when's the next Official Star Trek Convention.

Quote:
he simply longs to undo everything Obama accomplished

God, I hope President Trump gets everything reversed, and gets the country out of the Obama slump, and back on the right tracks to recovery.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 07:46 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/key-trump-aide-departure-rattles-080000110.html

President Donald Trump’s allies are worried that the most damaging of the many recent departures from his White House may be that of Keith Schiller, a little-known former bodyguard who’s one of the president’s closest confidants outside his family.

Schiller is leaving the White House soon to return to the private security business, according to three people familiar with his plans, for a job that will pay far more than his $165,000 government salary. His title, director of Oval Office operations, hardly begins to describe his importance to Trump, who is “crushed” by his planned departure, according to one person close to the president.

Multiple people interviewed described Schiller as an emotional anchor for the president in a White House often marked by turmoil. Schiller has worked for Trump for nearly two decades, and within the West Wing he serves as the president’s protector, gate-keeper and wing man, according to people close to Schiller and Trump. Most of the people requested anonymity to candidly discuss relationships between the president and his aides.

“He’s a confidant and friend,” said Stuart Jolly, a former national field director for Trump’s presidential campaign. Trump “trusts Keith, and Keith trusts him. Trust is a really big deal at that level.”

Schiller has also acted as Trump’s hatchet-man. It was Schiller who told James Comey that the president had decided to fire him as FBI director. Two weeks ago, after Trump was angered by preparations for a rally in Phoenix, Schiller delivered the message to another longtime aide, George Gigicos, that Trump no longer wanted him to organize such events, according to three people familiar with the matter.

Schiller declined to comment.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 10:48 AM

Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 11:05 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/key-trump-aide-departure-rattles-080000110.html

President Donald Trump’s allies are worried that the most damaging of the many recent departures from his White House may be that of Keith Schiller, a little-known former bodyguard who’s one of the president’s closest confidants outside his family.

Schiller is leaving the White House soon to return to the private security business, according to three people familiar with his plans, for a job that will pay far more than his $165,000 government salary. His title, director of Oval Office operations, hardly begins to describe his importance to Trump, who is “crushed” by his planned departure, according to one person close to the president.

Multiple people interviewed described Schiller as an emotional anchor for the president in a White House often marked by turmoil. Schiller has worked for Trump for nearly two decades, and within the West Wing he serves as the president’s protector, gate-keeper and wing man, according to people close to Schiller and Trump. Most of the people requested anonymity to candidly discuss relationships between the president and his aides.

“He’s a confidant and friend,” said Stuart Jolly, a former national field director for Trump’s presidential campaign. Trump “trusts Keith, and Keith trusts him. Trust is a really big deal at that level.”

Schiller has also acted as Trump’s hatchet-man. It was Schiller who told James Comey that the president had decided to fire him as FBI director. Two weeks ago, after Trump was angered by preparations for a rally in Phoenix, Schiller delivered the message to another longtime aide, George Gigicos, that Trump no longer wanted him to organize such events, according to three people familiar with the matter.

Schiller declined to comment.


And you Kyle decline to comment, but you keep posting away, as if you don't have a care in the world!

I'm glad Schiller declined to comment, because the stories shorter, and no buddy cares. Yahoooo
Posted by: Teonan

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 11:50 AM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker

I'm glad Schiller declined to comment, because the stories shorter, and no buddy cares. Yahoooo

WRONG "buddy". Since you choose to dismiss reality, pay attention to the views. Folks care.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 01:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker

I'm glad Schiller declined to comment, because the stories shorter, and no buddy cares. Yahoooo

WRONG "buddy". Since you choose to dismiss reality, pay attention to the views. Folks care.


But what about the babies Teddy-Boy, who's going to feed them, when the trucks stop running?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-wa...s-4691cf5e6dd6/

White House walks back promise about Trump donating his ‘personal money’ to Harvey victims
A subtle but significant shift.
Aaron Rupar
Sep 1, 2017, 4:27 pm
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 03:41 PM

http://host.madison.com/wsj/opinion/lett...f89ff1de63.html

President Donald Trump has apparently donated $1 million to hurricane relief.

Republicans continually tout how wonderfully generous this is, but is it really? Donald Trump has continually claimed that he is worth $10 billion. In American English usage, a billion is 1,000 million. Therefore, if he is to be believed, President Trump is worth 10,000 million dollars. $1 million is, therefore, one 10,000th of his net worth.

Recent U.S. Census data says that the median net worth of American households is around $80,000. One 10,000th of this is 8 bucks -- hardly more than the price of a value meal at a fast food restaurant.

Many, if not most, of us have given much more than this to help our fellow Americans in need. Trump's contribution is good politics, perhaps, but generous? Hardly.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/05/17 09:28 PM

Only an idiot like you would find fault with someones donation to charity!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/06/17 02:01 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Only an idiot like you would find fault with someones donation to charity!
Ya. We seen this movie before. He is quite the con man.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-veterans-donations/index.html

What happened to Trump's donations to veterans?

Drew Griffin

By Drew Griffin, Curt Devine and Mercy Yang, CNN Investigations

Updated 3:50 PM ET, Fri April 22, 2016

Did veterans group get millions raised by Trump?

Donald Trump drew much fanfare when he skipped a Republican debate in January to host a rally that he has said raised millions of dollars for veterans, but one question has lingered since the event: Where's the money?

Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/06/17 03:51 AM

http://realtimepolitics.com/2017/09/02/trump-donation-personal-money/

On Thursday, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters that Donald Trump would donate $1 million of his “personal money” to Hurricane Harvey victims.

On Friday, Sanders was already backtracking.


Asked by a reporter if she knew whether Trump’s donation would be “coming from his own money or from the Trump Foundation,” Sanders replied, “I haven’t had a chance to do that”—indicating she hadn’t yet had a chance to ask the president where the money would be coming from.

During the campaign, the Washington Post reported that Trump treated his foundation—which he hadn’t personally donated to since 2008—like a personal expense account. The report also said that Trump has repeatedly exaggerated his giving. The Smoking Gun called Trump “The .00013% Man” for his “paltry” charitable giving, and during Trump’s Apprentice days, donations he claimed would be coming out of his own pocket were in fact made by his foundation.

The Post found that Trump used more than $250,000 of the money raised by the his foundation to settle legal problems for his myriad business interests. Additionally, he used $10,000 of foundation money to buy a portrait of himself at a charity fundraiser, $20,000 from the Trump Foundation to buy a different portrait of himself, and $12,000 from the tax-exempt foundation to buy an autographed Tim Tebow football helmet. A $5,000 foundation donation to the D.C. Preservation League Tax was used to obtain ad space for Trump hotels.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/06/17 04:20 AM

And Trump is doing more to divide us every day in so many ways. I have to be skeptical America will survive him. I got my fingers crossed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-r...ews-u-s-n798911


America the Pessimistic: New Poll Shows Lackluster Views of U.S.

by Carrie Dann Sep 6 2017, 12:00 am ET

It may be the land of the free and the home of the brave, but Americans are far from united in seeing the United States as an exceptional place to live, according to a new poll from NBC News and the Wall Street Journal.

The survey also finds that the share of Americans who believe that the country has a “strong national character” is shrinking.

In fact, one of the few things that unites the public is the belief that the nation is deeply divided.

The poll came as the nation has grappled with a historically unpopular president in Donald Trump, whose job approval rating in the poll stood at just 40 percent, with 55 percent disapproving.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/06/17 02:13 PM

Thank god they are finally seeing the light.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...kushpmg00000009

Very few Americans outright regret their votes in last year’s election. But such regrets, new data reveals, are highest among voters who may now make up the most tenuous part of the base that swept Donald Trump into office: those who supported Barack Obama in 2012.

“I’m off that boat,” said Hildegarde Evans, a registered Democrat from Sacramento, California, who supported Obama in 2012. She says she voted for Trump because she hoped his business experience would give him a different perspective, but is now adamant that she’d never support him for re-election. “There’s nothing he can say or do that will impress me or cause me to vote for him again, no, absolutely not. That’s out.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/07/17 03:26 AM

Long but interesting.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/06/trump-turn-off-tv-lowry-215583

Turn off the TV, Mr. President

By RICH LOWRY

September 06, 2017

Donald Trump is the first president in U.S. history to have been baited into undermining his own negotiating position by negative TV coverage.

Less than 12 hours after Attorney General Jeff Sessions explained that the administration is ending DACA because it’s unconstitutional, Trump tweeted that he might “revisit” the program if Congress doesn’t act.

This was an implicit admission that he’s bluffing on DACA, which gives Democrats every incentive not to trade anything meaningful for a codification of the program. Why make any painful concessions to save DACA if the president is loath to truly terminate it?

Surely, Trump wasn’t thinking of any strategic or legislative imperatives; he was thinking only of how to push back against commentators calling him heartless. The time of the tweet — 8:38 p.m. — strongly suggests that he was watching TV, and reporting has confirmed as much.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/07/17 06:33 PM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/wife-of-tru...yst-with-inmate

Wife of Trump Organization Ethics Lawyer Arrested After Alleged Tryst With Inmate

The wife of a lawyer in charge of overseeing ethics in President Trump’s business trust was arrested outside a Virginia jail—with an inmate in her backseat.

Kelly Weill
09.07.17 4:30 PM

The wife of a lawyer tasked with monitoring ethics in President Donald Trump’s business trust was arrested Tuesday afternoon after “suspicious” activity with a Virginia inmate in the backseat of a car outside a jail.

Teresa Jo Burchfield, 53, was outside Virginia’s Fauquier County Adult Detention Center when deputies charged her with a crime of her own. Burchfield and an unnamed 23-year-old inmate were spotted in the backseat of a car, along with a bag of pills and other contraband items that Burchfield had allegedly given the inmate. Burchfield’s husband, Bobby Burchfield, is an ethics advisor to the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, an entity intended to keep Trump’s business and political ties separate.

“The defendant was caught in the backseat of her vehicle with an inmate," according to a criminal complaint obtained by the Fauquier Times. "When the inmate exited the vehicle, he handed me a bag of brown pills (capsules), that he claims to be workout pills."

The inmate, who told police he and Burchfield had been having sex, also had other contraband items on his person, including cigarettes and vitamin supplements, according to the complaint. The inmate told investigators that he and Burchfield had been meeting for a month.

Burchfield’s husband is a member of the Republican National Lawyers Association. He served on President George H.W.’s 1992 reelection campaign, worked for President George W. Bush during his 2000 effort to demand a vote recount, and later served on the younger Bush’s Antitrust Modernization Commission. He also chaired Crossroads GPS, Karl Rove’s Republican advocacy group, and testified before the Supreme Court on behalf of the Republican National Committee.

In January 2017, Trump named Bobby Burchfield as the outside ethics adviser to his Revocable Trust, a complicated entity that Trump’s lawyers have used to deflect scrutiny over Trump’s continued ties with his businesses.

Teresa Burchfield was released on a $5,000 bond, court records show. She has been charged with unauthorized delivery in jail, a misdemeanor.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/07/17 08:45 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.thedailybeast.com/wife-of-tru...yst-with-inmate

Wife of Trump Organization Ethics Lawyer Arrested After Alleged Tryst With Inmate

The wife of a lawyer in charge of overseeing ethics in President Trump’s business trust was arrested outside a Virginia jail—with an inmate in her backseat.

Kelly Weill
09.07.17 4:30 PM

The wife of a lawyer tasked with monitoring ethics in President Donald Trump’s business trust was arrested Tuesday afternoon after “suspicious” activity with a Virginia inmate in the backseat of a car outside a jail.

Teresa Jo Burchfield, 53, was outside Virginia’s Fauquier County Adult Detention Center when deputies charged her with a crime of her own. Burchfield and an unnamed 23-year-old inmate were spotted in the backseat of a car, along with a bag of pills and other contraband items that Burchfield had allegedly given the inmate. Burchfield’s husband, Bobby Burchfield, is an ethics advisor to the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, an entity intended to keep Trump’s business and political ties separate.

“The defendant was caught in the backseat of her vehicle with an inmate," according to a criminal complaint obtained by the Fauquier Times. "When the inmate exited the vehicle, he handed me a bag of brown pills (capsules), that he claims to be workout pills."

The inmate, who told police he and Burchfield had been having sex, also had other contraband items on his person, including cigarettes and vitamin supplements, according to the complaint. The inmate told investigators that he and Burchfield had been meeting for a month.

Burchfield’s husband is a member of the Republican National Lawyers Association. He served on President George H.W.’s 1992 reelection campaign, worked for President George W. Bush during his 2000 effort to demand a vote recount, and later served on the younger Bush’s Antitrust Modernization Commission. He also chaired Crossroads GPS, Karl Rove’s Republican advocacy group, and testified before the Supreme Court on behalf of the Republican National Committee.

In January 2017, Trump named Bobby Burchfield as the outside ethics adviser to his Revocable Trust, a complicated entity that Trump’s lawyers have used to deflect scrutiny over Trump’s continued ties with his businesses.

Teresa Burchfield was released on a $5,000 bond, court records show. She has been charged with unauthorized delivery in jail, a misdemeanor.



What's your point?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/08/17 02:01 AM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
What's your point?
Isn't my point obvious? The wife of a lawyer in charge of overseeing ethics in Trump's business dealings is arrested for such sleazy and unethical behavior.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/10/17 08:09 PM

Isn't that like Bill trying to help Hilary get elected? LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/11/17 03:14 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politic...olitics-n800211

Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon said Sunday the firing of FBI Director James Comey may have been the biggest mistake in "modern political history."

Bannon confirmed in an online-only segment of "60 Minutes" that he opposed President Donald Trump's decision to oust Comey.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/11/17 03:28 PM

Menendez
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/11/17 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Menendez
Ya. There are crooks in both parties I am afraid. Do you agree with Steve Bannon here or not?

Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon said Sunday the firing of FBI Director James Comey may have been the biggest mistake in "modern political history."
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/11/17 11:01 PM

Yeah Sure! LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/17/17 02:14 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/mueller-just-obtained-warrant-could-153200191.html

Robert Mueller obtained a search warrant for records of "inauthentic" Facebook accounts

It's bad news for Russian election interference "deniers"

Mueller may be looking to charge specific foreign entities with a crime

FBI Special Counsel Robert Mueller reportedly obtained a search warrant for records of the "inauthentic" accounts Facebook shut down earlier this month and the targeted ads these accounts purchased during the 2016 election.

The warrant was first disclosed by the Wall Street Journal on Friday night and the news was later confirmed by CNN.

Legal experts say the revelation has enormous implications for the trajectory of Mueller's investigation into Russia's election interference, and whether Moscow had any help from President Donald Trump's campaign team.

"This is big news — and potentially bad news for the Russian election interference 'deniers,'" said Asha Rangappa, a former FBI counterintelligence agent.

Rangappa, now an associate dean at Yale Law School, explained that to obtain a search warrant a prosecutor needs to prove to a judge that there is reason to believe a crime has been committed. The prosecutor then has to show that the information being sought will provide evidence of that crime.

Mueller would not have sought a warrant targeting Facebook as a company, Rangappa noted. Rather, he would have been interested in learning more about specific accounts.

"The key here, though, is that Mueller clearly already has enough information on these accounts — and their link to a potential crime to justify forcing [Facebook] to give up the info," she said. "That means that he has uncovered a great deal of evidence through other avenues of Russian election interference."

It also means that Mueller is no longer looking at Russia's election interference from a strict counterintelligence standpoint — rather, he now believes he may be able to obtain enough evidence to charge specific foreign entities with a crime.

Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti, now a partner at Thompson Coburn LLP, said that the revelation Mueller obtained a search warrant for Facebook content "may be the biggest news in the case since the Manafort raid."

The FBI conducted a predawn July raid on the home of Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, in late July. The bureau is reportedly investigating Manafort's financial history and overseas business dealings as part of its probe into possible collusion between the campaign and Moscow.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/21/17 07:14 PM

NOTHING KYLE! NOTHING
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/22/17 03:03 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
NOTHING KYLE! NOTHING
I have never seen someone who is in such total denial as you are. It is astounding.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/29/the_odd_body_denial/

In the psychological sense, denial is a defense mechanism in which a person, faced with a painful fact, rejects the reality of that fact. They will insist that the fact is not true despite what may be overwhelming and irrefutable evidence.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/22/17 07:44 AM

I've never seen a person infatuated with a subject as much as you are with Trump! It's like you are acting like a stalker or sex offender!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/22/17 08:00 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
I've never seen a person infatuated with a subject as much as you are with Trump! It's like you are acting like a stalker or sex offender!
Really? Then you don't know much as about this world at the present time. I have communicated with people worldwide(including Australia) who are very concerned about Trump and what he is doing.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/22/17 11:28 PM

Are you registered Kyle?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/23/17 01:09 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Are you registered Kyle?
Registered to vote? Of course. Are you?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/23/17 08:30 AM

The registry! You have compulsive actions!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/23/17 11:31 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
The registry! You have compulsive actions!
What registry and for what purpose? You are a real waste of time today.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/23/17 03:49 PM

Just over your head as usual Kyle!
Posted by: Teonan

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/24/17 06:42 PM


Trump Plays to White Nationalism From North Korea to NFL

Juan Cole
Informed Comment

Sep 24, 2017

At home, Trump told a white crowd that it hurts the game of football “when people like yourselves turn on television and you see those people taking the knee when they’re playing our great national anthem.”

He actually said “those people.”

Read on: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trump_plays_white_nationalism_north_korea_nfl/
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/24/17 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Teonan

Trump Plays to White Nationalism From North Korea to NFL

Juan Cole
Informed Comment

Sep 24, 2017

At home, Trump told a white crowd that it hurts the game of football “when people like yourselves turn on television and you see those people taking the knee when they’re playing our great national anthem.”

He actually said “those people.”

Read on: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trump_plays_white_nationalism_north_korea_nfl/
What's wrong with those people? They are a select group of morons like yourself who disrespect our flag!
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/25/17 03:38 PM


Do you mean like the select groups of football teams with the US flag emblazoned all over their uniforms and helmets? Or stadiums that carry giant flags onto the field horizontally during opening ceremonies, or stars & stripes hats, bandanas, bikinis, napkins, bumper stickers and the like, or men who leave their hats on instead of holding them in their left hands, etc, etc, in clear opposition to Flag Code standards? Those select morons?

Thanks for pointing them out... hypocrites.

Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/25/17 04:12 PM

I'm saying everybody should stand and respect our flag! All the other crap can wait till later!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/25/17 06:30 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
I'm saying everybody should stand and respect our flag! All the other crap can wait till later!
Blacks have been waiting 150 years. How long do you think they should have to wait?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/25/17 07:08 PM

Sometimes you can't help somebody who won't help themselves!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/26/17 02:17 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Sometimes you can't help somebody who won't help themselves!
OMG. No comment.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/26/17 07:09 AM

No comment because it is the truth!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/26/17 06:33 PM

Very few people believe anything you say any more Trump. Your credibility is shot.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...rotests-n804901

President Donald Trump said Tuesday he felt “ashamed” by “disgraceful” NFL-wide protests and accused participants of disrespecting military members who died or were injured defending the United States.

“I was ashamed of what was taking place,” Trump said during a joint press conference with the Spanish prime minister in the White House Rose Garden, referring to the numerous football players who knelt during the playing of the national anthem before NFL games.

“I don’t think you can disrespect our country, our flag, our national anthem,” Trump said. “Many people have died,” he added, referring to fallen military members.

“Many people are so horribly injured,” he added, before recalling a recent visit to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.

“I saw so many great young people and they are missing legs and they’re missing arms and they’re so badly injured. They were fighting for our country, they were fighting for our flag, they were fighting for our national anthem,” Trump said.

“For people to disrespect that by kneeling during the playing of national anthem I think is disgraceful,” he said.

The president also denied that he was “preoccupied” with the NFL after being asked about the attention he gave the league over the weekend in which he tweeted about the protests several times.

“Not at all,” Trump said. “I have plenty of time on my hands. All I do is work.”

He also urged the NFL to create a rule that would “not allow people” to kneel during the playing of the national anthem.

Trump has spent the last four days railing against NFL players for protesting by kneeling during the national anthem.

On Friday, he called those who kneel "sons of bitches" and tweeted that NFL players who don't stand during the anthem should be "fired."

He continued to tweet about the issue throughout the weekend, prompting players or owners on nearly all of the teams to take action or issue statements against the president by Sunday's gameday. The president was still at it Tuesday morning.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/26/17 08:11 PM

So what's the issue? He's telling the truth!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/27/17 02:32 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/donald-trump-puerto-rico-north-korea/index.html

You know a president is in trouble when he has to insist he's up to the job.

But stung by a worsening post hurricane crisis in Puerto Rico, an escalating North Korea nuclear showdown, the humiliating failure to repeal Obamacare and the stunning defeat of his favored candidate in Alabama's Republican primary, that moment has arrived for Donald Trump.


The President is being forced to deny that his Twitter blasts and culture war shots at NFL players protesting racial grievances show that he's too distracted to lead amid creating political storms.

"I've heard that before, about was I preoccupied? Not at all, not at all. I have plenty of time on my hands. All I do is work," said Trump, when asked at a Rose Garden news conference whether his feud with NFL players had caused him to take his eye off the ball over the fast worsening hurricane crisis in Puerto Rico.

Given the magnitude of issues he's facing, it was not surprising that Trump sometimes seemed to be flailing Tuesday, a day of upheaval that served as a microcosm of his turbulent eight months in power that has delighted his fans but rocked much of the rest of the nation and the world.

History shows that any hints of incompetence at a time of national security crisis can deal a devastating blow to a presidency. A sense that a White House is powerless, meanwhile, to control the political winds of Washington can be equally as damaging -- especially when a commander-in-chief is as polarizing as Trump.

But the President, while flashing characteristic defiance, also showed hints of political self-awareness suggesting he understands the gravity of his political plight as intense pressures bear down on his White House.

This White House, for all the loyalty of Trump's fervent political base, could soon find itself facing up to any of these realities if it allows the myriad crisis facing the President to spin any further out of control.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/27/17 07:15 AM

BLAH BLAH BLAH! = NOTHING!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/27/17 05:37 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
BLAH BLAH BLAH! = NOTHING!
You can't be this blind, can you?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/noose-tightening-around-trump-family-132009624.html

Noose Tightening Around Trump Family in Russia Probe, Top Democrat Warns

Even though President Donald Trump has calmed his firestorm of tweets about the investigation into alleged ties between Russia and his campaign—he hasn’t called it a “witch hunt” in weeks—top Democrats say that the noose is tightening around the Trump family, and that it is now crucial to protect Special Counsel Robert Mueller so he can complete the investigation.

"As the noose starts to close around the White House and around the Trump family, a very different set of behaviors could emerge,” Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-Rhode Island) told Politicoon Tuesday. "It’s under those kinds of pressures that the special counsel needs to be able to continue its work.”

He was talking about two bipartisan bills introduced last week that could block Trump from firing Mueller. One bill would requires a review of any terimation by three federal judges, and the other would require top officials at the Department of Justice to go before a panel of judges to explain any decision to fire Mueller.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/27/17 08:30 PM

Yeah ok! LOL! Kyle I think you read so much of this crap you actually believe it!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/28/17 03:42 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Yeah ok! LOL! Kyle I think you read so much of this crap you actually believe it!
That was from Yahoo news reprinted from Newsweek magazine.

Noose Tightening Around Trump Family in Russia Probe, Top Democrat Warns
[Newsweek]
Melina Delkic
NewsweekSeptember 27, 2017

Do they print crap too? Do you read anything other than this forum? Where do you get your information and opinions from? That is the big unknown. I read a lot and from a lot of different sources all across the political spectrum. I can only assume you read nothing.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/28/17 07:13 AM

You know what they say about people who assume1 LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/28/17 07:15 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
You know what they say about people who assume1 LOL!
I can only assume that you never read anything since you refuse to tell us what it is.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/28/17 07:30 AM

I don't have to tell you anything!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/28/17 07:32 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
I don't have to tell you anything!
Then why do you keep posting and saying nothing? I try and tell you a lot.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/28/17 07:32 AM

In your opinion which amounts to crap!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/28/17 08:40 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
In your opinion which amounts to crap!
I don't post opinions so much as I cut and paste links with facts. You do very little of that so we only have your opinion to go by.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/28/17 02:44 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
I don't have to tell you anything!

You do if you want any credibility.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/28/17 08:12 PM

I could care less what you think! You are a nobody trying to be somebody!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/29/17 03:54 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
I could care less what you think! You are a nobody trying to be somebody!
I care about you. I want you to understand what is happening in this world.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/29/17 07:40 AM

I'm pretty sure I can figure it out! LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/30/17 12:31 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
I'm pretty sure I can figure it out! LOL!
I don't see how when you apparently read next to nothing.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/30/17 01:28 PM

That you know of!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/30/17 02:05 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
That you know of!
That is so true. What I know of. And since you are ashamed to post on here what you read I can only assume it is extreme right wing alt-right garbage probably approved by the KKK.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/30/17 02:23 PM

This is exactly what we have been doing for 70 years with North Korea. I hope it keeps us out of WWIII.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-has-lines-communication-north-korea-tillerson-says-n806186

BEIJING, China — The United States has direct channels of communication with North Korea, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Saturday, adding that Washington was "probing" for potential dialogue with Pyongyang.

U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, say they believe China's priority is stability on the Korean peninsula, since a political collapse would almost certainly push destabilizing waves of refugees into northeastern China.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/30/17 02:26 PM

Hopefully more sanctions will work. Maybe Trump sees that now.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-has-lines-communication-north-korea-tillerson-says-n806186

U.S. officials said Beijing appears increasingly willing to cut ties to North Korea's economy by adopting U.N. sanctions, after long accounting for some 90 percent of its neighbor's foreign trade.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 09/30/17 08:50 PM

Yeah sure!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/01/17 12:46 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Yeah sure!
Do you know realize Trump has no more answers to serious world problems than any other president? These problems are tough. Trump campaigned saying he alone could fix them. Sooner or later his base has got to see that is all B.S.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/01/17 08:15 PM

We shouldn't be trying to take care of the world! Take care of Americans first!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/02/17 01:08 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
We shouldn't be trying to take care of the world! Take care of Americans first!
Until Trump came along the USA was by far the most respected the nation by the rest of the world. I fear we are losing that position more and more by the rest of the world every day since January 20, 2017.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/02/17 08:12 PM

They don't like it if they are forced to pay their own way!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/03/17 02:53 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
They don't like it if they are forced to pay their own way!

http://www.politifact.com/global-news/st...n-aid-spending/

Most people clueless on U.S. foreign aid spending

By Jon Greenberg on Wednesday, November 9th, 2016 at 7:40 a.m.

surveys show that many Americans think that a quarter to a third of the U.S. budget is spent on foreign aid. The actual number is about 1 percent, and surveys back up Kerry’s statement. One 2016 poll found the average estimate was about 30 percent of all government spending. A survey done nearly two decades ago found an average estimate of 26 percent.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/03/17 04:27 AM

Can you believe it? Trump is wrong again.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017...ests/721809001/

USA TODAY Poll: Americans say Trump is wrong on NFL protests

Susan Page and Julia Fair, USA TODAY Published 9:44 a.m. ET Oct. 2, 2017 | Updated 12:08 p.m. ET Oct. 2, 2017

Most Americans say the protests by NFL players during the National Anthem are appropriate, a USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll finds, and they say, by overwhelming margins, that President Trump's heated criticism of them are not.

Two-thirds in the poll of registered voters, by 68%-27%, say Trump's call for NFL owners to fire the players and fans to boycott their games is inappropriate. That includes a third of Republicans as well as nine of 10 Democrats.

By 51%-42%, those surveyed say the players' protests are appropriate.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/03/17 07:34 AM

I think you are the one who is wrong Kyle!


https://www.inquisitr.com/4519835/poll-america-responds-to-nfl-anthem-protest/
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/03/17 09:12 AM

Trump was wrong right off the bat by bringing this up with so many more important topic he he should of been concentrating on.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/03/17 08:40 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Trump was wrong right off the bat by bringing this up with so many more important topic he he should of been concentrating on.
Not at all! Never a wrong time for these bums to learn respect for the flag!
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/03/17 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Trump was wrong right off the bat by bringing this up with so many more important topic he he should of been concentrating on.
Never a wrong time for these bums to learn respect for the flag!

Especially that draft dodger! whistle
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/04/17 07:15 AM

Bill Clinton or Obama!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/10/17 09:16 AM

This is from CBS. Do they only post garbage too?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/newt-gingrich-says-trumps-fight-with-sen-corker-not-helpful-to-country/

Newt Gingrich says Trump's fight with Sen. Corker "not helpful to country"

As political infighting continues to plague the White House, Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says President Trump's feud with Republican Senator Bob Corker is "not helpful to the country" or "the Republican party."

"They'd be a lot better off to get together for lunch and get over it," Gingrich said on "CBS This Morning" on Tuesday.

Gingrich said that Mr. Trump "automatically hits back at anybody just as an instinctive, it goes back to his New York days and it seems to be virtually uncontrollable."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/10/17 09:18 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Gingrich said that Mr. Trump "automatically hits back at anybody just as an instinctive, it goes back to his New York days and it seems to be virtually uncontrollable."
Great. We have a president who is virtually uncontrollable as stated by a prominent member of his own party.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/10/17 11:44 AM

If somebody throws it your way you throw it back at them!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/10/17 12:38 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
If somebody throws it your way you throw it back at them!
I am ashamed that we have a bully for president that acts this way. Never have we had a president before who acted like this. Most of the arguments are started by him and with lies also.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/10/17 07:41 PM

This country needs a tough guy like Trump! Not a wimp like Obama!
I think N Korea is going to find out real soon! BOOM!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/11/17 07:17 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
This country needs a tough guy like Trump! Not a wimp like Obama!
I think N Korea is going to find out real soon! BOOM!
There is a line between tough and being a bully. Trump has crossed the line. Real soon? I doubt it. There are tens of thousands of American military families in South Korea that would need to be moved out first. I hear that will take a couple of months. That is to say nothing of our 30,000 American military in South Korea.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/11/17 07:39 AM

GET ER DONE!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/11/17 07:45 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
GET ER DONE!
Get what done?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/7955...rageous-Channel

230,000 Americans from South Korea'
DONALD Trump has demanded the evacuation of US citizens from South Korea as part of a drill named Courageous Channel, military sources have revealed.


By Thomas Hunt
PUBLISHED: 01:40, Mon, Apr 24, 2017 | UPDATED: 15:53, Mon, Apr 24, 2017

The operation, set to take place in June, will prepare for the safe exit of around 230,000 Americans in the case of conflict.

If the Pyongyang was to attack, tens of thousands of American civilians, including military dependents residing in and around the capital city of Seoul, could very well be caught in the crossfire.

A major dilemma for the US is how to keep these Americans safe and evacuate them in the event of hostilities.

Seoul is just 35 miles from the border, well within range of more than 12,000 North Korean artillery guns that they have already positioned to strike from dug-in and well-camouflaged positions.

It is estimated that the North has the capability to fire, using rocket-assisted projectiles, 500,000 rounds of both mortar ammunition and chemical weapons on Seoul in just the first hour of war.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/11/17 07:47 AM

Not when we hit them first! BOOM!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/11/17 09:42 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Not when we hit them first! BOOM!
OMG. It is impossible to hit them so hard and fast that there will not be 100's of thousand of civilian deaths in the first hour. Don't you understand anything?
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/11/17 01:39 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Don't you understand anything?

No, but if he did, he still wouldn't care.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/11/17 02:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Don't you understand anything?

No, but if he did, he still wouldn't care.
That is true. They are just Asians.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/11/17 08:10 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Not when we hit them first! BOOM!
OMG. It is impossible to hit them so hard and fast that there will not be 100's of thousand of civilian deaths in the first hour. Don't you understand anything?
It can be done! My god we flew a B1 bomber off the coast of N Korea and they didn't even know it till the next day when they saw it on the news!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/12/17 11:06 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Not when we hit them first! BOOM!
OMG. It is impossible to hit them so hard and fast that there will not be 100's of thousand of civilian deaths in the first hour. Don't you understand anything?
It can be done! My god we flew a B1 bomber off the coast of N Korea and they didn't even know it till the next day when they saw it on the news!
The news? What news? Do you now see how important the news is that Trump calls the enemy of the people?

Flying one plane off the coast is a lot different than flying over the land of North Korea and taking all of this artillery out before it is launched.
Quote:
Seoul is just 35 miles from the border, well within range of more than 12,000 North Korean artillery guns that they have already positioned to strike from dug-in and well-camouflaged positions.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/12/17 07:29 PM

That shows how capable they are! If they can't see a bomber that flew closer than anytime before they aren't to competent!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/21/17 08:29 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
People like Schumer who have been there way to long!
He comes to upstate NY much more often than Senator D'Amoto ever did. And Senator Gillibrand is a native of upstate NY.
That's not true. Difference is D'Amato came up when there were issues to solve. Shumer only comes up when he has taxpayer money to give to his cronies.
Exactly just like Nozzolio!
So if you don't support all Republicans if you didn't support Nozzolio?
mmmm? no reply?
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/21/17 01:34 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Not when we hit them first! BOOM!
OMG. It is impossible to hit them so hard and fast that there will not be 100's of thousand of civilian deaths in the first hour. Don't you understand anything?
It can be done! My god we flew a B1 bomber off the coast of N Korea and they didn't even know it till the next day when they saw it on the news!

Non-sequitur.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/21/17 09:30 PM

You have no logic!
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/22/17 12:19 AM


And it's STILL a non-sequitur.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/22/17 07:05 PM

That you have no logic? LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/22/17 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
That you have no logic? LOL!
You are using a LOL on each post. You must be really pouring it down tonight.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/22/17 07:10 PM

Not as bad as you! You didn't wake up for a couple of days! You must of got hold of some strong ripple or Wild Irish Rose! LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/22/17 07:12 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Not as bad as you! You didn't wake up for a couple of days! You must of got hold of some strong ripple or Wild Irish Rose! LOL!
Another LOL. Now I am sure of it.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/22/17 07:22 PM

Which brand is your choice? LOL!
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/22/17 07:26 PM


Well, it's official... the FL1 Forums have now become gassy's own personal masturbatory vomitorium. frown
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/30/17 01:52 AM

This thread is entitled "the mood is ugly". That is certainly the mood in political circles these days.

From Fox news:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/...his-throat.html

John Boehner unleashed: Ex-House speaker curses at lawmakers, says congressman once held a knife to his throat

Former House Speaker John Boehner, who retired in October 2015, is no longer holding back his anger against several of his former colleagues in Congress.

The Ohio Republican talked to Politico Magazine in a lengthy profile Sunday about the widening political divide in America. But he saved his harshest words for conservatives who worked alongside him. Among them: Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., who became the chairman of the House Oversight Committee after Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, announced his resignation from Congress, and Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, who helped found the House’s Freedom Caucus, which frequently clashed with Boehner.

“Gowdy — that’s my guy, even though he doesn’t know how to dress,” Boehner said. “F--- Jordan. F--- [Jason] Chaffetz. They’re both a--holes.”

Boehner called Chaffetz a “total phony” who was more obsessed with self-promotion than the American people. Chaffetz resigned from Congress in June and joined Fox News as a contributor. He didn't immediately respond.

“Jordan was a terrorist as a legislator going back to his days in the Ohio House and Senate,” Boehner added to Politico. “A terrorist. A legislative terrorist.”
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/30/17 08:41 PM

BLAH! BLAH! BLAH! More garbage Kyle!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 12:07 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
BLAH! BLAH! BLAH! More garbage Kyle!
I like how you keep reading the stuff I print. You then call it garbage but have noting to rebut it. grin
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 12:08 PM

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_poli...s_far_from_over

WASHINGTON — The indictment of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and campaign aide Rick Gates coupled with the surprise unsealed guilty plea by former campaign adviser George Papadopoulos made three things clear: special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation is far from over.

Its breadth is expansive, and he already has plenty of detailed evidence on his targets — even those who have not yet been charged. The court documents released yesterday by Mueller’s office don’t reveal all of the information investigators have collected.

But those who could be in the investigation’s crosshairs as witnesses or potential defendants — including former national security adviser Michael Flynn, White House senior adviser Jared Kushner and President Trump’s son Donald Trump Jr. — know now that Mueller is willing to bring down the hammer on campaign officials who don’t cooperate.

“There are a whole lot of things on the table that are chargeable, and that is part the negotiation process,” said Katy Harriger, a Wake Forest University professor and author of “The Special Prosecutor in American Politics.”

That is clear from the 12-count indictment of Manafort and Gates, who face up to 15 and 12 years in prison respectively for charges including money laundering, failing to register as an agent of a foreign government, conspiracy and lying to federal officials.

Nothing in the Manafort and Gates charges is connected to Trump’s campaign, and the allegations are just that — they both enjoy the presumption of innocence. But the Papadopoulos case is a different story — even for Manafort.

“The real story is the Papadopoulos plea, because that moves this much closer to the campaign, and he’s pleading guilty in exchange for something,” said University of Texas School of Law professor Stephen Vladeck.

It’s clear from the plea agreement that Papadopoulos is a cooperating witness, showing Mueller is willing to apply pressure where needed to advance the probe.

Papadopoulos admitted to emailing a “High-Ranking Campaign Official” about Moscow’s interest in setting up meetings with the campaign. He also provided an email from the campaign official that stated: “We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal.”

NBC News reported last night that official was Manafort.

It also shows that Mueller only reveals what he wants the public and those charged to know, and only on his own timeline. That should put Flynn, or everyone else involved, on notice.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 12:14 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
This thread is entitled "the mood is ugly". That is certainly the mood in political circles these days.
From Fox news:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/...his-throat.html

John Boehner unleashed: Ex-House speaker curses at lawmakers, says congressman once held a knife to his throat

Former House Speaker John Boehner, who retired in October 2015, is no longer holding back his anger against several of his former colleagues in Congress.

The Ohio Republican talked to Politico Magazine in a lengthy profile Sunday about the widening political divide in America. But he saved his harshest words for conservatives who worked alongside him. Among them: Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., who became the chairman of the House Oversight Committee after Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, announced his resignation from Congress, and Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, who helped found the House’s Freedom Caucus, which frequently clashed with Boehner.

“Gowdy — that’s my guy, even though he doesn’t know how to dress,” Boehner said. “F--- Jordan. F--- [Jason] Chaffetz. They’re both a--holes.”

Boehner called Chaffetz a “total phony” who was more obsessed with self-promotion than the American people. Chaffetz resigned from Congress in June and joined Fox News as a contributor. He didn't immediately respond.

“Jordan was a terrorist as a legislator going back to his days in the Ohio House and Senate,” Boehner added to Politico. “A terrorist. A legislative terrorist.”
Gassy says this post is garbage. Is he calling Fox News garbage or John Boehner a liar?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 01:04 PM

I was just watching CNN. They were showing a clip from last night on FOX news where John Kelly was being interviewed. (In my words as I remember it)

FOX: Is Mueller's investigation aggravating to Trump?

Kelly: Of course. It would be aggravating to anyone being investigated.

*****************************************************************************************

CNN comment: Did Kelly just say that Trump knows he is being investigated?

Other CNN comment: It would be hard to investigate Trump's campaign without Trump being investigated as part of it.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: big nothing burger - 10/31/17 02:07 PM

NY Post: So, The Big Fish The FBI Caught In This Russian Collusion Probe Is....An Unpaid Intern?
Matt Vespa

You can read Guy’s take here, but Paul Manafort and his business associate, Rick Gates, probably had the worst Monday you can imagine: being indicted by the FBI. Yet, this isn’t related to the Trump collusion hysteria that’s been festering within Democratic circles that are desperate to find a smoking gun linking the Trump White House to the Russians. With multiple investigations ongoing for months, we still have zero evidence that proves the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. But wait—what about this George Papadopoulos fella? Didn’t he do all this stuff supposedly with the Russians? Oh, and he’s been charged with lying to the FBI. He’s a cooperating witness, which had some wondering whether the next event will be some sort of solid evidence that Trump and the Russians formed this unholy alliance that has so permeated liberal media outlets. Well, as it turns out, the dude was a low-level, unpaid intern who was probably boasting of such ties to impress the higher-ups in the Trump campaign (via NY Post):

In the 14-page document, Robert Mueller’s prosecutors maintain that Papadopoulos, a twentysomething think-tank nerd who jumped ship from the Ben Carson campaign, met with individuals posing as Russian officials who promised dirt on Hillary Clinton.
There was nothing illegal about what Papadopoulos did. The only crime alleged in the indictment is that he lied to federal agents when they asked him about the contacts last January.
It is fairly plain from the indictment that the young campaign volunteer was trying to impress higher-ups in the campaign, perhaps with a White House assignment in mind, but was played for a sucker by con artists who approached him masquerading as Russian honchos tied to Vladimir Putin. (The contact portrayed as “Putin’s niece,” for example, turned out to be nothing of the kind.)
The initial Russia offer by Papadopoulos went nowhere, as other members of the foreign policy team rejected the suggestion, according to a Washington Post story published in August (yes, this is old news, new media huffing-and-puffing notwithstanding). But Papadopoulos persisted, e-mailing then-campaign manager Lewandowski in April 2016 that “Putin wants to host the Trump team when the time is right.”
The Washington Post further reported that Papadopoulos also forwarded campaign officials an e-mail from a senior official in the Russian International Affairs Council about coordinating a Trump visit to Moscow. But once again, senior campaign officials rejected the suggestion. Proposed trips to Moscow “did not take place,” the indictment confirms.
All this information was contained in internal e-mails the FBI obtained and started reviewing last year, indicating investigators have had possession of the private communications of top officials serving in the Trump campaign for several months. And yet the best case of criminal wrongdoing they can come up with is inconsistent statements by a no-doubt very nervous young campaign volunteer?
At the same time, Paul Sperry, who wrote the article, also said whatever crimes are unearthed during Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation are worth prosecuting, especially tax fraud and money laundering, but added that we’re still in neutral on this whole issue. By the way, the Manafort indictment was based on his alleged illegal activities between 2006-2014, long before the 2016 election in which Hillary Clinton took her place next to Ross Perot, Adlai Stevenson, and Thomas Dewey in the two-time presidential loser club. So, there you have it—one of the biggest talked about news items so far with this Russia story is that the FBI caught a campaign volunteer who lied to them.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: big nothing burger - 10/31/17 02:14 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
So, there you have it—one of the biggest talked about news items so far with this Russia story is that the FBI caught a campaign volunteer who lied to them.
You have no clue how this works do you? You should listen to CNN more. You start with the smallest fish and work your way up hoping that some bigger fish will get nervous and flip. Mueller is just getting started. No one in the White House knows who they can trust now or who is wearing a wire.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: big nothing burger - 10/31/17 02:15 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-apos-approval-rating-012953119.html

Donald Trump’s job approval rating has sunk to even deeper depths in the latest Gallup poll.

Gallup’s tracking poll, based on a three-day rolling average ending Sunday, put Trump’s average approval rating at 33 percent, the lowest of his presidency, with 62 percent disapproving of the job he’s doing — a new high.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: big nothing burger - 10/31/17 02:19 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/robert-mueller-most-powerful-man-in-washington/index.html

Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller's one-two punch on Monday sent a forceful message to President Donald Trump, the public and potential suspects about the case he is constructing of Trump associates' involvement with Russia during the 2016 campaign.

Mueller showed he can keep a secret and maximize the impact of what he makes public.

In the first major filings of his investigation into the Russian effort to influence the election, Mueller revealed how broadly he has taken his mandate, the kinds of records he has uncovered, and how he has leveraged at least one insider to cooperate.

"There's a 'large scale ongoing investigation of which this case is a small part,'" Aaron Zelinsky of the special counsel's office said during Papadopoulos' sentencing hearing earlier this month, according to a transcript unsealed Monday.

Mueller's team appears to be making its case to the public, too. In the documents released Monday, evidence is laid out in attention-getting detail, with tantalizing quotes ("Great work," a campaign supervisor tells Papadopoulos).
The documents point up the fact that the Trump campaign was aware early in 2016 of offers of "thousands" of potentially damaging emails about Democrat Hillary Clinton.
There is an implicit warning to potential additional defendants about trying to hide evidence and a "we've got more" suggestion throughout. The Papadopoulos statement opened with the observation that it does not "constitute all the facts known" and then referred to conversations he had with multiple high-ranking (unnamed at this point) campaign officials.

The timing of the rollout may also have thrown the White House. Manafort was pictured walking into FBI offices in Washington as he and Gates were indicted. The President barely had had time to assert on Twitter that the indictment of Manafort and Gates was unrelated to his campaign when the Papadopoulos news went public.
The guilty plea details how the 30-year-old former campaign foreign policy adviser lied to federal investigators about his interactions with foreign officials close to the Russian government. Papadopoulos falsely described the facts surrounding interactions with a foreign contact regarding possible "dirt" on Clinton, Republican Trump's opponent in the race for the White House.


Mueller, a former FBI director first appointed by Republican President George W. Bush in 2001 and continued under Democratic President Barack Obama, was named the Russia special counsel on May 17. Attorney General Jeff Sessions has recused himself from Russia-related matters, and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein made the appointment after Trump fired then-FBI director James Comey, who previously oversaw the Russia investigation.

As laid out by Rosenstein, Mueller is investigating any links or coordination between the Russian government and the Trump campaign as well as "any matters that arose or may arise directly" from the investigation and any attempts to interfere with it, such as perjury, obstruction of justice and the destruction of evidence.
The indictment of Manafort and Gates shows that Mueller is going back more than a decade to potential wrongdoing unrelated to the election but connected to Russia. The 31-page, 12-count indictment relates to their political consulting on behalf of Russian-backed officials in Ukraine. It asserts conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, and failure to register as an agent of a foreign principal, among other charges.
The indictment alleges lavish spending from the offshore accounts, including to pay for mortgages, children's tuition and home decorating. It also documents some of the evidence retrieved from Manafort's Virginia home when federal agents made a pre-dawn raid.
Manafort and Gates have pleaded not guilty to the charges.
Papadopoulos, on the other hand, entered a guilty plea after federal officials caught him lying about his interactions with a "foreign contact who discussed 'dirt' related to emails concerning" Clinton.

The plea statement lists Papadopoulos' initial falsehoods and his efforts to cover his tracks once the FBI questioned him. He shut down his Facebook account the day after an interview. It had contained information about his communications with Russian nationals. He also stopped using his usual cell phone number and got a new one.
It turned out Papadopoulos had multiple email exchanges in an effort to arrange a meeting between Trump campaign operatives and Russians. "It's history making if it happens," Papadopoulos wrote enthusiastically in one email.
The 13-page plea document unsealed on Monday highlights Papadopoulos' connection to the Trump campaign, noting at one point that the campaign told The Washington Post in March 2016 that Papadopoulos was one of five named foreign policy advisers.
A month later, he met with a contact identified as "the professor" for breakfast at a London hotel. The professor had just returned from Moscow, where he apparently met with high-level Russian officals and learned that they had "dirt" on Clinton. Papadopoulos initially tried to claim that the interactions with "the professor" occurred before he was on the Trump campaign.

In a town where everything leaks, Mueller was also able to keep Papadopoulos' cooperation and plea deal under wraps.
Papadopoulos was arrested on July 27 at Dulles International Airport. Mueller noted that Papadopoulos then met with the government "on numerous occasions." He was arraigned and pleaded guilty in federal court October 5, a fact only unsealed Monday.
The secrecy is a testament to the control Mueller has retained over the unfolding story -- and a warning to anyone who thinks he or she is safe.
The extent of what Papadopoulos revealed may become evident in upcoming weeks, and Mueller's team argued as part of a motion to seal his case that his "arrest and the accompanying criminal charges may alert other subjects to the direction and status of the investigation."
The document released Monday already reveals many possible lines of inquiry. Responding to an email related to Russian efforts to meet with Trump himself, a campaign official says, "Let[']s discuss. We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send a signal."
That ambiguous statement about not sending "a signal" is revealed in a footnote; it feels more like a cliffhanger.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Democrats nervous - 10/31/17 02:32 PM


Leon Panetta: Mueller is Probably Going to Indict More People...Democrats Included
Katie Pavlich

On Monday morning, Special Counsel Robert Mueller officially issued the first charges in his ongoing investigation into the 2016 presidential election. Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and his longtime business partner Rick Gates were charged with 12 felonies ranging from lying to federal agents, tax fraud and money laundering.

But Mueller's probe isn't simply about Republicans.

During an interview with CNN Monday night, former CIA Director Leon Panetta said Mueller is just getting started and that Democrats should also be nervous.


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Leon Panetta: Probably a good bet that additional indictments are forthcoming, could involve members of both parties
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Yesterday Tony Podesta, brother of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, resigned from his prestigious Washington D.C. lobbying firm. The move came after NBC News revealed Podesta is under investigation by Mueller for failing to register as a foreign agent, the same crime Manafort stands accused of and one of many he was indicted for.

Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, three sources with knowledge of the matter told NBC News.

The probe of Podesta and his Democratic-leaning lobbying firm grew out of Mueller's inquiry into the finances of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, according to the sources. As special counsel, Mueller has been tasked with investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Manafort had organized a public relations campaign for a non-profit called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine (ECMU). Podesta's company was one of many firms that worked on the campaign, which promoted Ukraine's image in the West.

The sources said the investigation into Podesta and his company began as more of a fact-finding mission about the ECMU and Manafort's role in the campaign, but has now morphed into a criminal inquiry into whether the firm violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA.
Buckle up.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: Democrats nervous - 10/31/17 02:33 PM

Reminder: Tony Podesta Had Uranium One as a Client
Katie Pavlich

As Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into the 2016 presidential election heats up, with his authority spanning well beyond campaign borders, lobbyist Tony Podesta has come under investigation.

According to NBC News Mueller is looking at Podesta, brother of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, for failing to register as a foreign agent. He resigned Monday from his position at Podesta Group, a swanky lobbying firm in Washington D.C., just hours after indictments came down for businessman Paul Manafort.

Naturally, Mueller will be looking at Podesta's high paying clients as part of his criminal probe. Who exactly were Podesta's clients at Podesta Group? Uranium One is on the list.

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Was Podesta working for on the Uranium One project while failing to register as a foreign agent? And did he get the job because of his ties to the Clintons and more specifically, thanks to Hillary Clinton's role at the State Department?

As a reminder, Russian nuclear officials directed by President Vladimir Putin engaged in bribery and kick backs to gain 20 percent control of U.S. uranium supply back in 2010. This scheme was otherwise known as Uranium One, due to the connection to a Canadian energy company, which was approved by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton along with other U.S. government officials. After the deal went through, former President Bill Clinton was paid millions of dollars to give speeches in Russia and the Clinton Foundation saw a $145 million influx.

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.
Posted by: kyle585

GET TRUMP TOO! - 10/31/17 02:37 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga

Leon Panetta: Mueller is Probably Going to Indict More People...Democrats Included
Katie Pavlich
Thats ok. Get them all regardless of party. But the Trump campaign looked so crooked from the start that I got to believe the vast majority of those indicted by Mueller will be Republicans.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: GET TRUMP TOO! - 10/31/17 02:44 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pro...n-probe-n816056

Oct 31 2017, 2:17 pm ET
Prosecutors Say George Papadopoulos Plea a ‘Small Part’ of Mueller Russian Probe

by Tracy Connor and Tom Winter

The criminal case against former Trump adviser George Papadopoulos is just a "small part" of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, prosecutors said earlier this month.

The intriguing comment came during Papadopoulos' secret plea hearing on Oct. 5 during a discussion of the need for records to be kept under wraps until the probe is completed.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: GET TRUMP TOO! - 10/31/17 02:47 PM

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-mueller-russia-investigation-whats-next/

The charges announced Monday in the special counsel investigation into Russian meddling in the U.S. election signal an aggressive probe -- a double-barreled punch that veteran prosecutors say is just the beginning, CBS News' chief legal correspondent Jan Crawford reports.

Taken together, lawyers say the indictment of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, and the plea deal with George Papadopoulos, have a common purpose beyond the underlying crimes: to shake some trees and get witnesses to cooperate with the broader investigation.

Papadopoulos met with government lawyers and started cooperating after his arrest in July. Manafort and Gates, so far, have not.

But now, the threat of prosecution and jail time -- or even additional charges against them -- could cause them to flip if they have information that special counsel Robert Mueller would be interested in.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: GET TRUMP TOO! - 10/31/17 02:55 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tr...e-idUSKBN1D000H

Frank Montoya, a former senior FBI agent, said Manafort’s indictment and Papadopoulos’ plea indicated Mueller was not going to bow to White House pressure and would keep pushing hard to uncover wrongdoing.

”It is pretty much a road map – we are going to be looking at the money laundering, we are going to be looking at the failure to report income, we are going to be looking at the general criminal conspiracies. This is also about Trump’s red line – we are going to cross it. And we are going to keep looking at the so-called collusion, or the coordination with the Russians to undermine democracy,” Montoya said.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: GET TRUMP TOO! - 10/31/17 02:57 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
And we are going to keep looking at the so-called collusion, or the coordination with the Russians to undermine democracy,” Montoya said.
How said is it that we have come to this point? That we have a president who only cares about himself and not our country?
Posted by: Timbo

cwjga's dillema - 10/31/17 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
NY Post: So, The Big Fish The FBI Caught In This Russian Collusion Probe Is....An Unpaid Intern?

Hardly!

My Dad is a Psyco!

Paul Manafort’s Daughter Texted Friends About How Tight Her Dad Was With Trump:

"Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman who was indicted on federal conspiracy and money laundering charges Monday, has a long history of ties to pro-Putin groups in Ukraine. He also has a long history of connections to Donald Trump. According to leaked texts sent and received by his daughter, Andrea Manafort Shand, the two pals were “perfect allies.”

The Trump administration has been working overtime to downplay Manafort’s role in last year’s campaign.

“Paul Manafort was brought in to lead the delegate process, which he did, and was dismissed not too long after that,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Monday. “Paul was brought on sometime in June, and by the middle of August he was no longer with the campaign,” then-press secretary Sean Spicer said in March.

Spicer’s statement was untrue, and Sanders’ claim was misleading."


Story:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pau...kushpmg00000009
Posted by: cwjga

Re: GET HillaryTOO! - 10/31/17 03:17 PM


That Other Plot -- to Bring Down Trump
Pat Buchanan


Well over a year after the FBI began investigating "collusion" between the Trump campaign and Vladimir Putin, Special Counsel Robert Mueller has brought in his first major indictment.

Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort has been charged with a series of crimes dating back years, though none is tied directly to President Donald Trump or 2016.

With a leak to CNN that indictments were coming, Mueller's office stole the weekend headlines. This blanketed the explosive news on a separate front, as the dots began to be connected on a bipartisan plot to bring down Trump that began two years ago.

And like "Murder of the Orient Express," it seems almost everyone on the train had a hand in the plot.

The narrative begins in October 2015.

Then it was that the Washington Free Beacon, a neocon website, engaged a firm of researchers called Fusion GPS to do deep dirt-diving into Trump's personal and professional life -- and take him out.

A spinoff of Bill Kristol's The Weekly Standard, the Beacon is run by his son-in-law. And its Daddy Warbucks is the GOP oligarch and hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer.

From October 2015 to May 2016, Fusion GPS dug up dirt for the neocons and never-Trumpers. By May, however, Trump had routed all rivals and was the certain Republican nominee.

So the Beacon bailed, and Fusion GPS found two new cash cows to finance its dirt-diving -- the DNC and the Clinton campaign.

To keep the sordid business at arm's length, both engaged the party's law firm of Perkins Coie. Paid $12.4 million by the DNC and Clinton campaign, Perkins used part of this cash hoard to pay Fusion GPS.


Here is where it begins to get interesting.

In June 2016, Fusion GPS engaged a British spy, Christopher Steele, who had headed up the Russia desk at MI6, to ferret out any connections between Trump and Russia.

Steele began contacting old acquaintances in the FSB, the Russian intelligence service. And the Russians began to feed him astonishing dirt on Trump that could, if substantiated, kill his candidacy.

Among the allegations was that Trump had consorted with prostitutes at a Moscow hotel, that the Kremlin was blackmailing him, that there was provable collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

In memos from June to October 2016, Steele passed this on to Fusion GPS, which passed it on to major U.S. newspapers. But as the press was unable to verify it, they declined to publish it.

Steele's final product, a 35-page dossier, has been described as full of "unsubstantiated and salacious allegations."

Steele's research, however, had also made its way to James Comey's FBI, which was apparently so taken with it that the bureau considered paying Steele to continue his work.

About this "astonishing" development, columnist Byron York of the Washington Examiner quotes Sen. Chuck Grassley:

"The idea that the FBI and associates of the Clinton campaign would pay Mr. Steele to investigate the Republican nominee for president in the run-up to the election raises ... questions about the FBI's independence from politics, as well as the Obama administration's use of law enforcement and intelligence agencies for political ends."


The questions begin to pile up.

What was the FBI's relationship with the British spy who was so wired into Russian intelligence?

Did the FBI use the information Steele dug up to expand its own investigation of Russia-Trump "collusion"? Did the FBI pass what Steele unearthed to the White House and the National Security Council?

Did the Obama administration use the information from the Steele dossier to justify unmasking the names of Trump officials that had been picked up on legitimate electronic intercepts?

In testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Clinton campaign chair John Podesta and DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz claimed they did not know that Perkins Coie had enlisted Fusion GPA or the British spy to dig up dirt on Trump.

Yet, when Podesta testified, the lawyer sitting beside him in the committee room was Marc Elias of Perkins Coie, who had engaged Fusion GPS and received the fruits of Steele's undercover work.

Here one is tempted to cite Bismarck that, if you wish to enjoy politics or sausages, you should not inquire too closely how they are made.

Thus we have Free Beacon neocons, never-Trump Republicans, the Hillary Clinton campaign, the DNC, a British spy and comrades in Russian intelligence, and perhaps the FBI, all working with secret money and seedy individuals to destroy a candidate they could not defeat in a free election.


If future revelations demonstrate that this is what went down, it is not only the White House that has major problems.

If you wish to know why Americans detest politics and hate the "swamp" that has been made of their capital city, follow this story all the way to its inevitable end. It will be months of unfolding.

The real indictment here is of the American political system, and the true tragedy is the decline of the Old Republic.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: big nothing burger - 10/31/17 03:18 PM


whistle

Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 03:20 PM


Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 03:32 PM

There are more GOP arrests to come. I watch a forum relating to Facebook, twitter and a few other social media sites relating to Russia's involvement, yet our President and his crooked cronies denies the fact that these facts exist.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 05:42 PM

Nothing exists or it would have come out yesterday for sure! Sorry you sore losers were so disappointed! LOL!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 05:42 PM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...heEM?li=BBnb7Kz
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 06:24 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Nothing exists or it would have come out yesterday for sure! Sorry you sore losers were so disappointed! LOL!
OMG. LOL. You think everything was going to come out in one day? You have no idea how this works, do you? Mueller expects some people to flip in exchange for lighter sentences after they see what happened to Manafort and Gates. This will go on into next year.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 06:25 PM

OMG. That shows you that 80 percent of Trump voters don't believe in democracy! This is indeed scary.

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Nearly 80 percent of Trump voters said they think the president should stay in office even if collusion is proven between his campaign and Russia, according to a survey released Tuesday, even while support among all voters for his impeachment hits a new high.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 06:42 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/note-spec...ory?id=50806168

Trump's Twitterstorm came on the eve of possible action out of Robert Mueller's probe into Russia's meddling in the 2016 election.

The independent counsel confronts the toxic and polarized climate he was appointed to cut through. The build-up has included an orchestrated attempt to discredit Mueller, plus a breakdown in congressional cooperation on investigations and even fresh Republican inquiries of Obama/Clinton-era conduct.

But movement out of Mueller marks a new phase of the Russia investigation – with actions, not words or tweets, at the center. The pace and the outcomes will be less predictable than any machinations to date.

Mueller moving piecemeal gives him the advantage of all but daring Trump to interfere in his inquiries; the president could still wind up making an obstruction case against himself. Trump will be tempted, by both friends and foes, to meet action with action.

For now, despite even last week's extraordinary rejections of Trump and Trumpism by two leading Republican senators, the president has a mostly loyal party behind him.

That can vanish in the instant it would take Trump to move to fire Mueller, or start pardoning any of his targets.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 06:44 PM

http://forums.fingerlakes1.com/ubbthread...at&fpart=19

John Boehner blames Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh for GOP going off the rails

Salon.com Mon, Oct 30 3:46 PM EDT
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 10/31/17 06:55 PM

The mood is turning from ugly to total fear. If Trump were the "clear" winner back in November, why is he consumed with everything from crowd size to popularity. As of now, he has no legislative success, his popularity is at a record low of 37%, he tweets like a teenager, his marriage is unhappy, 3 of his surrogated are either proven criminal or indicted and the failures are numerous. Falsely blaming the media for his failures is his only consolation.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/05/17 07:01 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Nothing exists or it would have come out yesterday for sure! Sorry you sore losers were so disappointed! LOL!
You are so clueless on how this works.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/735465/mueller-reportedly-enough-evidence-charge-flynn

Special Counsel Robert Mueller has collected enough evidence to bring charges against ousted National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, along with Flynn's son, NBC News reported Sunday morning, citing multiple unnamed sources with knowledge of Mueller's investigation into Russian election meddling. Mueller's office declined to comment on the story.

Some suspected Flynn would be the subject of last week's indictment news, but the primary target then turned out to be former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Since then, NBC's sources report, "Mueller is applying renewed pressure on Flynn," while his "investigators are speaking to multiple witnesses in coming days to gain more information surrounding Flynn's lobbying work, including whether he laundered money or lied to federal agents about his overseas contacts."

If the Flynns cooperate with investigators, they could avoid or limit charges. Earlier this year, Flynn was reportedly shopping for immunity deals, but at that time he "found no takers."
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/05/17 07:54 PM

In other words Kyle it would be called a fishing expedition!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/10/17 02:42 AM

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/42546-robert-mueller-is-moving-toward-donald-trump

Robert Mueller Is Moving Toward Donald Trump
Thursday, November 09, 2017 By Marjorie Cohn, Truthout | News Analysis

Last week's indictments of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his longtime associate Richard Gates, together with the guilty plea by former Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, sent shock waves through the White House.

It turns out that since July, Papadopoulos has been serving as a "proactive cooperator." Special counsel Robert Mueller filed a document in federal court that says, "Defendant has indicated that he is willing to cooperate with the government in its ongoing investigation into Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election." Papadopoulos was likely wired for sound during conversations with administration officials whom he may implicate in criminal conduct.

But Mueller's opening salvo was just the tip of the iceberg. As the special counsel moves toward criminally charging Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael T. Flynn and others, even the president could find himself in Mueller's crosshairs.

NBC News reported on November 5 that Mueller has enough evidence to bring criminal charges against Flynn and his son, Michael G. Flynn. Father and son worked together in Flynn Intel Group, a consulting and lobbying group.

Mueller is reportedly investigating Michael T. Flynn for money laundering and lying to federal agents about overseas contacts. The special counsel is also exploring whether Flynn tried to assist in removing a chief rival of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan from the United States to Turkey in return for the payment of millions of dollars, two officials told NBC News.

Trump Fired Comey to Protect Flynn

Recall that in February, Trump pressured then-FBI Director James Comey to drop the investigation of Flynn. That happened the day after Trump fired Flynn for lying to Vice President Mike Pence about Flynn's contacts with Sergey Kislyak, Russian ambassador to the United States.

Trump warned Comey, "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go." Comey testified, "I took it as a direction" that "this is what he wants me to do.... [I] replied only that '[Flynn] is a good guy.'"

According to Comey, the president asked Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Jared Kushner and others to step out of the Oval Office before he requested that Comey drop the "open FBI criminal investigation" of Flynn for "his statements in connection with the Russian contacts, and the contacts themselves."

Two weeks earlier, the president had twice demanded "loyalty" from Comey, who testified that Trump told him, "I need loyalty, I expect loyalty." Pressed by Trump, Comey said he finally assured the president he would get "honest loyalty" from the FBI director.

When Comey didn't halt the investigation of Flynn, Trump fired the FBI director. The next day, Trump boasted to Russian officials in the Oval Office, "I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," adding, "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."

The day after boasting to the Russians, Trump told NBC's Lester Holt, "When I decided to just do it [fire Comey], I said to myself ... this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story."

Philip Allen Lacovara, former Justice Department deputy solicitor general and counsel to Watergate special prosecutors Archibald Cox and Leon Jaworski, wrote in The Washington Post:

Comey's statement lays out a case against the president that consists of a tidy pattern, beginning with the demand for loyalty, the threat to terminate Comey's job, the repeated requests to turn off the investigation into Flynn and the final infliction of career punishment for failing to succumb to the president's requests, all followed by the president's own concession about his motive. Any experienced prosecutor would see these facts as establishing a prima facie case of obstruction of justice.

Mueller Could Pressure Flynn to Incriminate Trump

If Mueller charges Michael T. Flynn, that could strengthen the obstruction of justice case against Trump. In fact, once Mueller secures a grand jury indictment of the two Flynns, it's quite possible that the special counsel will pressure the elder Flynn to become a "proactive cooperator" in exchange for lenient treatment of his son and even himself.

Trump has gone to great lengths to protect Flynn, likely because the latter has information that would incriminate the president. It took Trump 18 days to fire Flynn after learning of his lies to Pence. Trump leaned heavily on Comey to look the other way in the Flynn investigation and fired Comey when he refused to let Flynn go.

It was the firing of Comey that led to the appointment of special counsel Mueller.

Trump Jr. and Others in Mueller's Crosshairs

Flynn is not the only official whose family members could be implicated in the Russia investigation; Trump himself faces the same predicament. In June 2016 Donald Trump Jr., Kushner (Trump's son-in-law) and Manafort met at Trump Tower with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer with ties to the Kremlin. Trump Jr. arranged the meeting with the expectation of receiving negative information the Russian government supposedly had about Hillary Clinton.

British publicist and former tabloid reporter Rob Goldstone had told Trump Jr. in an email exchange that the Russian government had "some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary," adding, "This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump." Seventeen minutes later, Trump Jr. replied, "If it's what you say I love it."

Trump Jr. insisted that nothing of substance came from the meeting with Veselnitskaya. But five days later, DCLeaks released internal documents from the Clinton campaign for the first time. And one week later, WikiLeaks published numerous hacked Democratic National Committee (DNC) emails. Additional disclosures of hacked data continued to emerge until the presidential election.

Even if the meeting and the release of DNC documents were unrelated and nothing substantive came from that meeting, Trump Jr. and possibly Manafort and Kushner could be liable for attempted violation or conspiracy to violate the Federal Election Campaign Act.

Moreover, new information has come to light that could increase Trump Jr.'s criminal liability. On November 6, Bloomberg reported that Veselnitskaya made explosive statements about Trump Jr. in a Moscow interview. The Russian lawyer claimed that before the election, Trump Jr. indicated to her that if his father became president, the Magnitsky Act -- a US law that froze some Russian officials' access to real estate and to money they had kept in Western banks -- could be reconsidered. The act also banned these officials from entering the United States. Russia retaliated for the Magnitsky Act by halting US adoptions of Russian children.

After the June 2016 meeting became public, in damage control mode, Donald Trump crafted a statement for his son to deliver. It said,

It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up. I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.

NBC News reports that Trump Jr. is "under scrutiny by Mueller." It's quite possible that Mueller is investigating both Trump and Trump Jr. for conspiracy to violate the Federal Election Campaign Act. In this case, the president could potentially be named as an unindicted co-conspirator.

Kushner and former Trump adviser Carter Page are also under scrutiny by Mueller, according to NBC News. And Sessions has been called to testify before Congress again for lying about Trump campaign contacts with Russian officials.

Donald Trump should be very worried.

Marjorie Cohn is professor emerita at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, former president of the National Lawyers Guild, deputy secretary general of the International Association of Democratic Lawyers and a member of the national advisory board of Veterans for Peace. The second, updated edition of her book, Drones and Targeted Killing: Legal, Moral, and Geopolitical Issues, will be published in November. Visit her website: MarjorieCohn.com.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/10/17 02:44 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
In other words Kyle it would be called a fishing expedition!
The water the fish have to swim in before they are hooked is getting smaller and smaller.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/10/17 05:35 AM

Not to mention the fact that Mueller possesses the best fishing lures, fish finder and very favorable weather. Don't forget that he also has 3 big fish in the well already.
Posted by: Teonan

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/10/17 06:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Not to mention the fact that Mueller possesses the best fishing lures, fish finder and very favorable weather. Don't forget that he also has 3 big fish in the well already.

>>grin

Yep. He sure does! Ultimately, the slippery Orange Blobfish.



Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/10/17 09:01 AM


Uncanny! wink
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/10/17 02:32 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
In other words Kyle it would be called a fishing expedition!



Originally Posted By: Formermac


Put all politics aside.

You say that you're intelligent but you submit childish memes

You say that you conduct yourself as an mature adult but offer adolescent rhetoric.

You say that you're not a pedaphile but you defend a pedaphile

You say that you're not a rapist but you defend rapists

You say that you're not a racist but you defend racists

You say that you're not a thiefs but you defend theives

You say that you're not unethical but you defend unethical people.

TELL US!!!!!1 What does that say about you?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/10/17 08:48 PM

It says I'm not a Clinton lover! LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/12/17 01:35 PM

Wow. OMG

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/treasury-se...d-on-right-now/

Treasury secretary on reducing gov't spending: "Not an issue we're focused on right now"

Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin says the Trump White House is "not focused" on reducing government spending, as the administration continues to push Republicans' plans to overhaul the nation's tax code.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/13/17 04:53 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
It says I'm not a Clinton lover! LOL!


Your response says that you're irrelevant and clueless
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/14/17 01:29 PM

I know of no bigger disaster than Trump himself.

http://fingerlakes1.com/2017/11/14/trump-declares-disaster-in-wayne-county-but-omits-cayuga-monroe/

Trump declares ‘disaster’ in Wayne County, but omits Cayuga, Monroe

President Donald Trump has declared a federal disaster for the communities impacted by flooding along Lake Ontario this year.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/14/17 05:28 PM

Trump lies all the time and people keep supporting him! Totally disgusting!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-trump-tells-tale-air-force-175046776.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump told a fanciful little tale Tuesday about Air Force One being denied landing rights in the Philippines during a trip by his predecessor because bilateral relations were so bad. That didn't happen.

Before boarding the plane in Manila to come home, Trump bragged to the press that he's pushed relations with the Philippines to new heights.

"And as you know, we were having a lot of problems with the Philippines," he said. "The relationship with the past administration was horrible, to use a nice word. I would say horrible is putting it mildly. You know what happened. Many of you were there, and you never got to land. The plane came close but it didn't land."

That prompted a lot of head-scratching.

President Barack Obama last visited the Philippines in November 2015, arriving in Manila after an overnight flight from Turkey. There were no problems with landing the plane. Obama used the visit to announce the United States was transferring two ships to the Philippine Navy.

Perhaps Trump was referring erroneously to Obama's aborted meeting with President Rodrigo Duterte? In September 2016, Obama abruptly canceled a meeting with the new Philippines leader in Laos after Duterte called him an obscene name. Duterte was warning Obama not to speak with him about the brutality of his crackdown on the illegal drug trade.

Obama went ahead with his Laos trip, meeting other leaders.

It's possible Trump was referring to something other than an Obama presidential trip. But if he was, he didn't say.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/14/17 07:40 PM

Trump is back home and he has a lot catching up to do. Donald Jr. is in deep DODO, Session is still perjuring himself, Moore down in Alabama is nearly out the door and Trump himself faces a litany of questions as to his mental stability as to why should he have the nuclear codes....your typical Republican week I guess. I see that Trump lied once again by criticizing the previous administration for allowing mass shootings and stated that on january 20,2017, the killing would stop.....well Mr. Trump, 4 more died today by all means, you can stop them when you're ready.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/16/17 07:56 AM

Won't stop! To many crackpot liberals around old man!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/16/17 10:29 AM

http://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-sessions-special-counsel-hillary-clinton-2017-11

Attorney General Jeff Sessions threw some cold water on increasing calls from the right for a second special counsel to investigate 2016 Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

During testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, Sessions told Republican Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio that something that "looks like" it is worthy of the appointment of a special counsel "is not enough basis to appoint one."
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/17/17 09:16 AM

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jeff-sess...ory?id=51135537
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/17/17 10:56 AM

Sure. He asked to them look into it. Fine. He didn't authorize a special like they are doing with Trump and Russia.

Quote:
Attorney General Jeff Sessions has authorized senior prosecutors at the Justice Department to evaluate whether allegations regarding the Clinton Foundation and the sale of a uranium company need to be investigated by a special counsel, according to a letter he sent the House Judiciary Committee on Monday night that has since been obtained by ABC News
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/17/17 07:49 PM

Very soon!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/18/17 03:23 PM

What women would want to go to the home of a sex pervert?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/women-apos-basketball-team-declined-222650644.html

Women's Basketball Team Declined Trump's White House Invitation For The Best Reason

HuffPost Alanna Vagianos,HuffPost 22 hours ago
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/18/17 07:11 PM


Barack Obama‏ @ThePresObama
4h4 hours ago

Barack Obama Retweeted Donald J. Trump

I will admit that people usually say "Jesus Christ!" when they read your tweets.

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Christians need support in our country (and around the world), their religious liberty is at stake! Obama has been horrible, I will be great
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/18/17 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
What women would want to go to the home of a sex pervert?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/women-apos-basketball-team-declined-222650644.html

Women's Basketball Team Declined Trump's White House Invitation For The Best Reason

HuffPost Alanna Vagianos,HuffPost 22 hours ago
Maybe they are going to see Bill Clinton,Weinstein,Spacey or Al Franken instead! LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/19/17 03:32 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
What women would want to go to the home of a sex pervert?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/women-apos-basketball-team-declined-222650644.html

Women's Basketball Team Declined Trump's White House Invitation For The Best Reason

HuffPost Alanna Vagianos,HuffPost 22 hours ago
Maybe they are going to see Bill Clinton,Weinstein,Spacey or Al Franken instead! LOL!
They don't live in the White House. Only Trump lives there for another year until he is forced out.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/19/17 10:41 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
What women would want to go to the home of a sex pervert?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/women-apos-basketball-team-declined-222650644.html

Women's Basketball Team Declined Trump's White House Invitation For The Best Reason

HuffPost Alanna Vagianos,HuffPost 22 hours ago
Maybe they are going to see Bill Clinton,Weinstein,Spacey or Al Franken instead! LOL!
They don't live in the White House. Only Trump lives there for another year until he is forced out.


Making up your own fake news now.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/19/17 11:47 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
]What women would want to go to the home of a sex pervert?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/women-apos-basketball-team-declined-222650644.html

Women's Basketball Team Declined Trump's White House Invitation For The Best Reason

HuffPost Alanna Vagianos,HuffPost 22 hours ago
Maybe they are going to see Bill Clinton,Weinstein,Spacey or Al Franken instead! LOL!
They don't live in the White House. Only Trump lives there for another year until he is forced out.
Making up your own fake news now.
You think it is fake news that Trump lives in the White House? Not much longer I hope.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/19/17 02:34 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
]What women would want to go to the home of a sex pervert?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/women-apos-basketball-team-declined-222650644.html

Women's Basketball Team Declined Trump's White House Invitation For The Best Reason

HuffPost Alanna Vagianos,HuffPost 22 hours ago
Maybe they are going to see Bill Clinton,Weinstein,Spacey or Al Franken instead! LOL!
They don't live in the White House. Only Trump lives there for another year until he is forced out.
Making up your own fake news now.
You think it is fake news that Trump lives in the White House? Not much longer I hope.


Fake news or making up lies about the reason a team is not going to the white house. Either way it's just one more reason Trump gets re-elected.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/19/17 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Fake news or making up lies about the reason a team is not going to the white house. Either way it's just one more reason Trump gets re-elected.
I don't know why they are not going to the White House. But any young women would think twice about being around Trump anymore I am sure. Trump even made a sexist remark about the first lady of France who must be 60 years old.

Trump get re-elected? LOL You are the only person I hear saying that now with his approval ratings at record lows. I think he is unlikely to last past the end of 2018 now that the Dems have a shot of taking over both the House and the Senate. Go Doug Jones!
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/19/17 04:06 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Fake news or making up lies about the reason a team is not going to the white house. Either way it's just one more reason Trump gets re-elected.
I don't know why they are not going to the White House. But any young women would think twice about being around Trump anymore I am sure. Trump even made a sexist remark about the first lady of France who must be 60 years old.

Trump get re-elected? LOL You are the only person I hear saying that now with his approval ratings at record lows. I think he is unlikely to last past the end of 2018 now that the Dems have a shot of taking over both the House and the Senate. Go Doug Jones!


So you post articles you don't read. Your brilliant. smirk
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/19/17 04:59 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga

So you post articles you don't read. Your brilliant. smirk
The girls told the couch to find us an excuse so we don't have to go see that pussy grabber.

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Staley told ESPN on Thursday that the team did finally receive an invitation to Friday’s event, but now they have bigger fish to fry.

“We did hear from the White House about attending tomorrow’s event, but we will not be able to attend,” she said. “As I’ve been saying since our practices for this season started, all of our focus is on the season ahead. The only invitation we are thinking about is to the 2018 NCAA Tournament.”

Slam. Dunk.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/19/17 07:01 PM

Can't read he's on the ripple!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/20/17 07:24 AM

Unbelievable. It is like a cult for some Trump supporters. They are unable to think for themselves.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/11/20/voter-panel-trump-supporter-camerota-sot-newday.cnn

Trump voter: I'd believe President over Jesus

During a panel with Trump voters, one supporter said he likes that the President's cabinet is filled with millionaires and that he would take the President's word even if Jesus were to contradict it.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/20/17 11:21 AM

https://secondnexus.com/news/robert-muel...926579f881108d6

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigative team has asked the Department of Justice to turn over a broad array of documents as part of its ongoing investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russian operatives during last year’s presidential election.

A source briefed on the request told ABC News that Mueller is particularly interested in documents related to President Donald Trump’s dismissal of former FBI Director James Comey and Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ decision to recuse himself from the Russia investigation earlier this year. Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein were integral to Comey’s removal.

Mueller issued the directive––his first records request to the Justice Department––last month, and it means he is now demanding documents from the very department overseeing his investigation. The directive is the latest indication that at least some aspects of Mueller’s probe focus on the president’s behavior in office, and whether he improperly attempted to wield influence over the investigation. Trump has been very vocal about his disdain for the probe, repeatedly undermining the investigation––which he claims is a political ploy orchestrated by Democrat lawmakers––via his personal Twitter account.

The news prompted several prominent figures, including Representative Ted Lieu (D-HI), to weigh in on what this stage of the investigation could entail.

This document request shows Special Counsel Mueller saw the same thing we all saw: The President of the United States committing Obstruction of Justice and then admitting it on national TV. https://twitter.com/ajdukakis/status/932431652940386304
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/20/17 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Unbelievable. It is like a cult for some Trump supporters. They are unable to think for themselves.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/11/20/voter-panel-trump-supporter-camerota-sot-newday.cnn

Trump voter: I'd believe President over Jesus

During a panel with Trump voters, one supporter said he likes that the President's cabinet is filled with millionaires and that he would take the President's word even if Jesus were to contradict it.



Very disturbing, reminds me of a high level drug dealer who lives in a upscale home,drives a expensive luxury car and has all the amenities of success while his street level gremlins makes just enough to buy another "hit" for the day. The drug dealer will you that "I don't touch the stuff because of the downward spirals it causes in your life. Yes, we are experiencing the same degradation in Trump supporters, "daddy" is laughing all the way to yacht dealership.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/21/17 10:17 PM

Sounds like a biography of Bill & Hilary!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/22/17 09:39 AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...m_medium=social

November 22, 2017, 6:27 AM EST

Democrats are wagering that President Donald Trump’s support for embattled Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore -- along with a flood of other sexual misconduct allegations nationwide -- will boost their chances in next year’s midterms.

Democrats have run more than eight times as many campaign ads since the accusations against Moore surfaced. One quotes Trump’s daughter Ivanka as saying there’s a “special place in hell for people who prey on children.”

Of course, sexual impropriety is nothing new to U.S. politics, but the sea change in American public life triggered by revelations about film producer Harvey Weinstein’s long history of sexual abuse has prompted scores of mea culpas from senior men in Hollywood, the media and politics (Democrats included). That’s focusing attention on the issue -- as well as the infamous tape that emerged weeks before last year’s presidential election, in which Trump boasts about making unwanted advances toward women.

If Moore -- accused of pursuing sexual relationships with teenagers -- loses next month in a state that Trump won by nearly 30 percentage points, it could be a sign that public outrage is shifting voting patterns.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/22/17 08:47 PM

What are you gonna say if Moore wins Kyle?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/22/17 09:03 PM

I actually hope that he wins. The midterms in 2012 gave the GOP a chance to redeem themselves after a lacklustre tenure between both parties. 8 years laters, the failures of said party are blatant, 60 failed repeals of the ACA, 8 years of failing to produce a healthcare package to suit the current needs of the people..the list goes on. List those accomplishments that will cause a major gravitation to the Republican party of pedophilia.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/22/17 09:11 PM

If you are talking about the party of perverts that would be the Democrats with Weinstein,Franken and Spacey! You make the Republicans sound like they are in trouble but they are still out polling the Democrats Winky!
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/22/17 09:17 PM

What's the situation on 2 Republicans under house arrest and the 3rd found guilty? You can bet your turkey that ILMAO. Good night, heading to a family gathering in the morning while you more than likely will be working crowd control for Black friday.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/22/17 09:20 PM

Watch what you do under that blanket WINKY!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/23/17 03:13 AM

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mik...r-probe-n823366

WASHINGTON — A former business associate of Michael Flynn has become a subject of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation for his role in the failure of Flynn's former lobbying firm to disclose its work on behalf of foreign governments, three sources familiar with the investigation told NBC News.

Federal investigators are zeroing in on Bijan Kian, an Iranian-American who was a partner at the now-dissolved Flynn Intel Group, and have questioned multiple witnesses in recent weeks about his lobbying work on behalf of Turkey. The grand jury convened for the investigation will soon have a chance to question some of those witnesses, the sources say.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/23/17 03:27 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
You make the Republicans sound like they are in trouble but they are still out polling the Democrats Winky!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...y-a8061036.html

Democrats set for 'wave' of victories in 2018 elections, top nonpartisan pollster predicts

'If I were a Republican running for Congress, I’d be taking that more seriously than ever'

Andrew Buncombe New York 6 days ago

One of America’s most highly respected, nonpartisan political analysts has predicted the Democrats will enjoy a “wave” of victories in the 2018 midterm elections.

With Donald Trump’s approval rating at an all time low and with Republicans failing to deliver on a series of promised pieces of legislation, Amy Walter believes 2018 could see a repeat of what happened in the midterms of 2006, when Democrats seized control of both the House and Senate during the second term of George W Bush.

“The last two weeks have seen some significant movement in Democrats favour. First, there were the impressive results from last Tuesday's elections,” Ms Walter writes, in an analysis for the Cook Political Report.

“This week, we’ve seen two polls - one by Quinnipiac and one by Marist - that show Democrats with a congressional ballot advantage of +13 to +15. Three other recent polls - ABC/Washington Post, Fox, and NBC/Wall Street Journal - show Democrats with an advantage of anywhere from +7 to +15.”

Ms Cook said she had actually been wrong in 2006 and predicted that Mr Bush and the Republicans were in a better shape to withstand the kind of midterm backlash that many administrations encounter.

“Lots has changed over the course of those years - the rise of SuperPACs, digital targeting, data analytics. But, there has been one important, overarching constant: a candidate can control for many things, but he/she can’t change the political mood,” added Ms Walter.

“If it is with you, you get an extra advantage you may or may not deserve. When it is against you, even the best, most prepared candidates can lose. This was true in 1994. It was true in 2006. It was true in 2010.”
Trump has his own awkward water bottle moment

She said that passing a tax bill appeared unlikely to change the mood of the country and that it will require something much more significant.

“A good economy is helpful to the Republicans as it can cut down on some of the headwinds coming at them right now. But, it’s not clear to me that it’s enough to fundamentally alter the way voters see Congress, the Republicans and the President,” she said.

She added: “Do not ignore what’s right in front of us. A wave is building. If I were a Republican running for Congress, I’d be taking that more seriously than ever.”

Ms Walter's analysis follows impressive wins by Democrats in gubernatorial elections in New Jersey and Virginia. The results have left other Republican governors fearing for their future and wondering how to counter the Democratic surge.

“What is driving the turnout? Is it a specific issue? Is it a specific region? Is it a specific type of voter? What impact of Washington,” Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker asked at a Republican meeting.

A poll released at the beginning of November showed Democrats hold an 11-point lead over Republicans on a generic House ballot.

The Washington Post/ABC News poll found that 51 per cent of registered voters said they would vote for the Democrat in their district, while 40 per cent said they would vote for the Republican.

The analysis comes as a new survey showed Mr Trump’s approval rating reached a new low in November and has declined for the last three months, according to the latest Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll.


It showed 41 per cent approved of the job Mr Trump is doing, compared to 59 per cent who disapproved. That was down from a 45 per cent approval in September.

Other polls have put Mr Trump’s approval rating much lower.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/23/17 10:37 AM

The same same polls that showed Hilary winning easily Kyle? LOL!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/25/17 04:56 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/vir...m=.2bd0fb46b4cd

RICHMOND — As bad as the overall outcome of Virginia’s recent election was for Republicans, there was one facet of the vote that raises special alarm for the party’s future.

That’s the performance of young voters, who came out in historic numbers and overwhelmingly cast their ballots for the Democratic candidate for governor, Ralph Northam.

While Republicans have been wrestling with an aging demographic for some time, analysts say the unpopular actions of President Trump are pushing away a new generation.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/25/17 05:09 AM

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/23/gop-insider-bruce-bartlett-the-republican-party-needs-to-die/

GOP insider Bruce Bartlett: “The Republican Party needs to die”
Onetime Reagan White House aide Bruce Bartlett on the media’s massive failure and his own party’s living death


American democracy is in crisis, a fact that should be obvious to everyone but that too many people keep ignoring. The president of the United States, Donald Trump, does not believe in or respect basic norms of democratic governance. His words and behavior reveal a deep affinity for fascism.

Over the last few decades there has been an increase in authoritarian values among American voters, and this is especially true for Republicans and other conservatives.

If someone were to ask you why Trump’s voters backed him, how would you answer?

That’s the $64,000 question. Certainly a big part of it was voter fatigue. As far as the Democrats are concerned it has been true since at least the post-World War II era that each party gets eight years -- and only eight years. There is only one exception to that rule and it was George H.W. Bush. It was probably in the cards that whoever got the Republican nomination was in a much better position to win than was generally assumed. Of course, Hillary Clinton turned out to be a historically poor candidate not just in a general way but also technically. From what I’ve read about her campaign, Hillary didn’t do statewide polling in the last couple of weeks before the election and really had no idea what was going on in critical battleground states.

The Comey letter [to Congress in late October] was horribly timed of course. I think there’s been this idea in American politics for a very long time that outsiders have some kind of special gift as compared to professional politicians. Moreover, Republicans just love the idea of bringing in a businessman to run the government. What they don’t realize is what you end up with is somebody who has absolutely no training for the job. The most successful presidents in recent memory were men with massive amounts of skill, namely [Lyndon B.] Johnson and Nixon. They had been in government their whole lives.

How did today’s Republican Party, in your estimation, become the way it is? Can it be saved?

The Republican Party needs to die. It’s already a zombie. It’s brain dead.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/25/17 07:55 AM

Democratic party is already dead!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/26/17 05:53 PM

http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia...ZveO-Q.facebook

The Trump-Russia Story Is Coming Together. Here’s How to Make Sense of It

"Everything the Trump campaign told you about the connections between Trump and Russia was a lie."

By Bill Moyers and Steven Harper | November 21, 2017

Editor’s Note: The news is coming so fast and furious, from so many sources and in so many fragments, that it takes more than a scorecard to keep up with the Trump-Russia connection. It takes a timeline — a “map,” if you will, of where events and names and dates and deeds converge into a story that makes sense of the incredible scandal of the 2016 election and now of the Trump Administration.

For years Steve Harper produced timelines for the cases he argued or defended in court as a successful litigator. Retired now from practicing law, Harper has turned his experience, talent, and curiosity to monitoring for BillMoyers.com the bizarre and entangled ties between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump and the murky world of Russian oligarchs, state officials, hackers, spies, and Republican operatives. You can check out the over 700 entries right here. But for an overview — and some specifics — of recent developments, I called up Steve to give us a sense of the emerging story.
—Bill Moyers

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Moyers: One more: I assume most people believe Russia’s interference in the election last year is a bad thing, a serious offense, but is it possible that by treating Vladimir Putin and his cronies as an existential threat, we’re playing directly into Putin’s hands and making him appear a more significant figure in the world than he really is?

Harper: Well, he’s already achieved that, but the problem is, what’s the alternative? Back in January, John McCain and Lindsey Graham were on national television acknowledging the seriousness of the Russian interference. McCain called it the cyber equivalent of “an act of war.” And if you acknowledge and recognize the existential threat, do you sit back and let the let the next thing happen in 2018 that Vladimir Putin wants to do? Remember, we have elections coming up next year. The uniform view of US intelligence is unambiguous, and if you don’t view it as an existential threat then you’re willing, I think, to sacrifice democracy.

We keep hearing, “Yeah, but Trump was still legitimately elected, he won the election fair and square.” Now we’re realizing that that may not even be true. I don’t personally believe that to be true anymore. I rankle every time somebody says he won fair and square, because that’s become less obvious every day. So the last line of defense would be, “Well, even if he didn’t win fair and square, he’s our president, so we’ve got to sit back and let whatever Putin’s going to do to us continue to happen because we don’t want our response to raise his standing in the world.” Well, I would submit it raises Putin’s standing in the world even more to have an accomplice in the White House.

Moyers: Thank you, Steve Harper.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/26/17 08:28 PM

Don't forget Hilary & Uranium One!
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/27/17 01:21 AM

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/26/media/president-trump-cnn-international-tweets/index.html

Trump slams CNN International — and journalists fire back

President Trump's latest broadside against CNN is drawing ire from journalists who say he misunderstands the very purpose of news coverage.

"This is another way that Trump recklessly hurts us in the world," said Baltimore Sun media critic David Zurawik on CNN's "Reliable Sources" Sunday.


A day earlier, Trump took aim at a new target: the network's international programming. His evening tweet tarred CNN International while also boosting Fox News, the president's favored organization.

"Fox News is MUCH more important in the United States than CNN, but outside of the U.S., CNN International is still a major source of (Fake) news, and they represent our Nation to the WORLD very poorly," the president said. "The outside world does not see the truth from them!"

A few minutes later, CNN's public relations department fired back: "It's not CNN's job to represent the U.S to the world. That's yours. Our job is to report the news."

The tweet included the hashtag #FactsFirst, which is part of an ongoing marketing campaign by the network. It also amassed more than twice as many retweets and likes as the original critique.

CNN International is carried by satellite and cable distributors around the world. Most of its audience is outside the U.S.

Its mix of international newscasts includes Christiane Amanpour's "Amanpour" and Richard Quest's "Quest Means Business." The network also simulcasts CNN's domestic programming.

It's not clear why Trump targeted CNN International while he was on vacation at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. Earlier this month he said he watched CNN in the Philippines.

The president has frequently criticized CNN's domestic programming, though the timing of his latest tweet raised some eyebrows. He sent it on the same day that Russian President Vladimir Putin signed legislation that would allow foreign media outlets in that country to be listed as "foreign agents."

AFP White House correspondent Andrew Beatty asked: "Why is Trump doing this on the same day Putin cracks down on foreign media in Russia — including CNN International?"


Washington Post reporter Karoun Demirjian said Trump's critique "should help Russia's plans to muzzle certain media outlets along quite nicely."

Some CNN journalists tweeted support for their own network.

"Whether it's uncovering the slave trade in Libya, highlighting Puerto Rico's struggle to recover from hurricanes, or giving a voice to Zimbabweans celebrating the fall of Mugabe, lately I've never been more proud to work for CNN International. Nothing fake about it," said CNN International producer Tom Foster.

Anchor and correspondent Isha Sesay thanked the president for watching.

Matt Rivers, a Beijing-based correspondent for CNN, shared reporting by his colleagues, including Nima Elbagir's work exposing the slave trade in Libya.

"We all have faults, no matter the profession," Rivers wrote. "But if this is the work that the world sees CNN do, I couldn't be prouder to be a part of it."

Some of CNN's rivals also spoke up.

"Thank you, CNN International for remaining a fair and free voice across the globe," said MSNBC's Joe Scarborough.

Columnist David Frum, a senior editor at The Atlantic and a former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, said that "Trump's words are a direct attack on those international journalists' freedom and even safety."


Zurawik, the Baltimore Sun media critic, said on "Reliable Sources" that CNN International is "one of the great journalistic institutions in the world" thanks to the investment in global bureaus and reporters.

USA Today editor-in-chief Joanne Lipman said on "Reliable" that journalists abroad face "actual physical danger, unlike in the United States."

Amanpour, who is CNN's chief international correspondent, made that same point. She tweeted a photo of one of her late colleagues.

"If President Trump knew the facts, he would never have sent that tweet," she wrote. "Here is my (late) camerawoman Margaret Moth, who took a bullet in the face covering the facts and truth in Bosnia."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/30/17 02:55 AM

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/...may-sot-ctn.cnn

Navarro: GOP lawmakers look like fools

CNN political commentator Ana Navarro said that President Trump continues to go back to the same "crazy lies" and GOP lawmakers look like "idiots" for pretending not to know about Trump's activity on Twitter.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 11/30/17 02:58 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alex-jones-calls-las-vegas-194349179.html

Tue, Nov 28 2017

Far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has drawn President Donald Trump and former President Barack Obama into his claim that the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history last month in Las Vegas was fake.

"Vegas is as phony as a three dollar bill or as Obama's birth certificate," he said on an episode of "The Alex Jones Show" on Monday, digging up an old conspiracy theory that Obama wasn’t born in the U.S.

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-praises-9-11-truther-alex-jones/index.html

December 2, 2015


Donald Trump is heaping praise on a radio host who has asserted that the U.S. government was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing and the September 11 terrorist attacks.
"Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down," Trump told Alex Jones
during a Wednesday afternoon appearance on the Infowars.com proprietor's show.
Jones shared the love, telling Trump that "my audience, 90% of them, they support you."

Jones, who has advanced a number of conspiracy theories, gained prominence as a 9/11 "truther."
He has previously asserted on his radio show that there is a "98% chance this was a government-orchestrated controlled bombing.


Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 11:18 AM

There are only three persons in the world Trump has never been critical of: his daughter, Flynn, and Putin.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/01/what-trump-has-said-about-michael-flynn-274454?lo=ap_a1

5 times Trump defended Flynn

By NOLAN D. MCCASKILL 12/01/2017 11:24 AM EST
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 11:19 AM

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump

Mike Flynn should ask for immunity in that this is a witch hunt (excuse for big election loss), by media & Dems, of historic proportion!

6:04 AM - Mar 31, 2017
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 11:59 AM

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/analysis-...ory?id=51515178

Michael Flynn’s guilty plea opens more doors than it closes.

The retired Army general has promised his “full coordination” with the Mueller investigation, ABC News is reporting. Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians, in the context of plans to defeat ISIS.

This is a game-changing development with far-reaching implications.


What’s being left out by prosecutors could indicate what Flynn is able to bring to Mueller’s table. There’s also the intriguing matter of Trump’s intense interest in the Flynn case.

Former FBI director James Comey has testified before Congress that the president asked him to drop any investigation of Flynn: “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go,” Trump told Comey, according to the since-fired FBI director.

Back in March, when Flynn was in negotiations with Congress to provide testimony, his lawyer hinted that he had much to say.

"General Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should the circumstances permit,” the lawyer, Robert Kelner, said at the time.

Circumstances now permit Flynn to tell his story – to the special counsel whose inquiry started with Russia and appears to have expanded from there.

This should scare Trump allies about the weeks and months ahead.
Posted by: Top Dog

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 03:53 PM

Kushner is the next to fall. This is treason.
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 04:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Kushner is the next to fall. This is treason.


Really!

Can you explain please?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Kushner is the next to fall. This is treason.


Really!

Can you explain please?



http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/jared-kushner-michael-flynn-russia/index.html



https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/...-contact-russia
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 04:25 PM

`https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...deal/913009001/
Posted by: ThomasDecker

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Kushner is the next to fall. This is treason.


Really!

Can you explain please?



http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/jared-kushner-michael-flynn-russia/index.html



https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/...-contact-russia




I don't care what CNN, Or Bloomberg prints, I want to know how a genius liberal comes up with treason!?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 05:09 PM

It doesn't matter what you think, Mueller already has what he wants.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 05:10 PM

Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
I don't care what CNN, Or Bloomberg prints, I want to know how a genius liberal comes up with treason!?
My god. Are you still supporting that lying ignorant sex pervert bully who happens to be our president?

From Fox News.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/...ssia-probe.html

Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty Friday to making false statements to the FBI – as part of a deal that involves his full cooperation with investigators in Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe.

Court documents show Flynn has acknowledged to investigators that at least two Trump transition members were involved in his outreach to Russian officials – though he initially gave false statements about those discussions.

The documents say that in late December 2016, Flynn called a senior transition official (identified as the "PTT official") to ask what to communicate to the Russian ambassador about sanctions. That official and Flynn discussed how they didn’t want Russia to "escalate the situation," something Flynn immediately told the ambassador in a phone call.

A source with full knowledge of the investigation told Fox News on Friday that the “PTT official” named in the document is in fact K.T. McFarland, who was Flynn’s deputy at the time and previously was a Fox News national security analyst.
John Roberts reports from the White House that McFarland is the unnamed senior Trump transition official that directed former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn to contact foreign governments including Russia. Video
Source: KT McFarland is Trump official in Flynn charging doc

The documents also say that in mid-December, a “very senior member” of the Trump transition team directed Flynn to contact foreign governments including Russia over a United Nations vote regarding Israeli settlements. Flynn in turn contacted the Russian ambassador.

The Associated Press reports the “very senior” official was Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner.

A source with knowledge of the investigation, however, told Fox News that this was part of an effort involving several transition officials making numerous calls. The source claimed Kushner did not specifically direct Flynn to call Russia, though did get the ball rolling on the phone calls in general.
FILE - In this Feb. 1, 2017 file photo, tne-National Security Adviser Michael Flynn speaks during the daily news briefing at the White House, in Washington. Flynn has opened a new consulting firm called Resilient Patriot, LLC that is advising private equity firms, according to one of his brothers, who says Flynn is “moving on with his life." (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster, File)

Michael Flynn has been charged with making false statements. (AP)

President Trump himself also was said to be involved in directing outreach to other countries. A former senior intelligence officer with knowledge of Trump transition activities told Fox News on Friday that then-President-elect Trump directed Flynn as well as McFarland during that period to contact the Russians -- while also directing the team to contact 12 other countries.

“The transition team felt that the Obama White House had completely abandoned any coherent foreign policy and had to fill the vacuum,” the former official told Fox News.
Thanksgiving is over but the independent counsel remains hard at work. Video
Judge Napolitano: What does Flynn have that Mueller wants?

The purpose of the calls, according to the source, was to assure the other nations that the incoming administration would soon be in place and not to overreact to last-minute actions taken by the Obama team.

In a statement, White House lawyer Ty Cobb said “nothing” about the plea implicates anyone other than Flynn.

According to the plea document, Flynn has agreed to “cooperate fully, truthfully, completely and forthrightly” with the probe, with sentencing delayed until those efforts “have been completed.”

Flynn, a retired Army lieutenant general, becomes the first Trump ex-White House official charged in the special counsel probe.

His tenure at the White House was brief -- he was fired for similar conduct, pertaining to undisclosed discussions with the Russians -- and Flynn had been under investigation even before the special counsel probe over lobbying work for Turkey and other issues. The fact that he faced just one count prompted immediate speculation that Flynn was cooperating and offering information to Mueller's team.

In a written statement, Flynn said "it has been extraordinarily painful to endure these many months of false accusations of 'treason' and other outrageous acts."

However, he said, "I recognize that the actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set things right. My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel's Office reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions."

A source close to Flynn said financial and emotional pressure helped lead to the decision to plead guilty, rather than endure a drawn-out court battle.

In his statement, White House lawyer Cobb said: “The false statements involved mirror the false statements to White House officials which resulted in his resignation in February of this year. Nothing about the guilty plea or the charge implicates anyone other than Mr. Flynn.”

Flynn entered the plea at a federal court in Washington, D.C., shortly after Mueller's office released a one-count charging document. The false-statements charge pertains to Flynn's interactions with the Russian ambassador in late December -- specifically discussions about sanctions and other matters he apparently claimed never happened.

Flynn was accused of "willfully and knowingly" making the false statements to the FBI while serving in the Trump administration.

According to the charging document, those false statements were that:

"On or about Dec 29, 2016, FLYNN did not ask the Government of Russia’s Ambassador to the United States ... to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day; and FLYNN did not recall the Russian Ambassador subsequently telling him that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of his request."
"On or about December 22, 2016, FLYNN did not ask the Russian Ambassador to delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution; and that the Russian Ambassador subsequently never described to FLYNN Russia’s response to his request.”

The latter statement appears to refer to the body's vote a day later to condemn Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

In a striking rupture with past practice, the Obama administration refrained from vetoing the condemnation, opting instead to abstain. The rest of the 15-nation council, including Russia, voted unanimously against Israel. At the time, Israel was lobbying furiously against the resolution and President-elect Trump's team spoke up on behalf of the Jewish state.

Democrats, meanwhile, used Friday's development to up the pressure on Republicans to give the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election space to proceed.

"This time, the president can’t get away with claiming these charges aren’t about his inner circle’s contacts with Russia, and he can’t dismiss Michael Flynn as some low-level aide," Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez said in a statement.

Flynn is the fourth person charged in connection with Mueller's investigation.

Mueller's team announced charges last month against three other Trump campaign officials: former chairman Paul Manafort and his business associate Rick Gates, and a former foreign policy adviser, George Papadopoulos.

A Flynn plea deal had been rumored ever since his attorneys informed President Trump's legal team they could no longer discuss the investigation.

Flynn, who was interviewed by the FBI just days after Trump's inauguration, was forced to resign in February after White House officials said he had misled them about whether he had discussed sanctions with the ambassador, Sergey Kislyak.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 05:41 PM

A fake Judge, fake prosecutor and fake charges toward Flynn means only one thing Kyle, a fake plea. I love it!!!! proven facts and citations are submitted but Tommy somehow attempts "FAKE" wiggle room.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/01/17 06:05 PM

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mue...kushpmg00000009

Jared Kushner Could Be The Next Domino To Fall In Mueller’s Russia Probe

Trump’s son-in-law might have been at the center of an elaborate, multinational effort to undermine then-President Barack Obama.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/02/17 02:40 AM

‘Mueller will try to use Flynn to go after bigger fish. But there aren’t many fish bigger than Flynn.’

Orin Kerr, professor of law, The George Washington University.

This is a fast-moving story, and the meaning of the plea may take a while to become clear. At this point, though, the plea seems tremendously important. That’s true for two reasons. First, Flynn was a central player in the Trump transition team and he was a close adviser to the president. He’s now cooperating with the special counsel, which probably means that Mueller will try to use Flynn to go after bigger fish. But there aren’t many fish bigger than Flynn. The list of likely targets at this point has to be very small, and it likely includes the president’s inner circle and the president himself.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/02/17 04:57 AM

Elizabeth Warren‏Verified account @SenWarren
12h12 hours ago

President Trump’s National Security Advisor pled guilty to a federal crime relating to his contacts with the Russian Government. This is not normal. This is not fake news. This is a serious threat to the national security of the United States.
892 replies 9,536 retweets 28,723 likes
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/02/17 06:27 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-alters-story-why-fired-flynn-203514321--politics.html




http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/flynn-trump-says-mueller-deal-shows-no-collusion-1108374083720



https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-apos-shepard-smith-172816034.html



He's just stacking up the potential charges.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/03/17 02:00 AM

The more I learn about Trump the more disgusting I find him to be.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/76530d61-69ce-354d-8e28-e917e6c6a6ac/ss_ex-aides-reveal-the-wild.html

Life aboard the Trump campaign plane was an unforgettable and bizarre experience, featuring scenes like press secretary Hope Hicks steaming the candidate’s pants while he was wearing them,

The Washington Post reported Saturday that “Let Trump Be Trump,’’ by former aides Corey Lewandowski and David Bossie, said Trump would “rip off the faces’’ of his targets with “expletive-filled tirades.’’

The authors said they “both had moments when they wanted to parachute off Trump Force One,’’ according to the Post.

Trump liked music — very loud music. People “couldn’t hear themselves think’’ as Elton John blared from speakers.

Trump also loved McDonalds, with one dinner featuring “two Big Macs, two Filet-O-Fish, and a chocolate malted.”

Lewandowski said a campaign staffer named Sam Nunberg was punished by being left behind at one of the fast-food restaurants. His offense: ordering a burger that was taking too long to prepare.

“Leave him,’’ Trump ordered. And they did.

Trump didn’t require a trained chef. “On Trump Force One there were four major food groups: McDonald’s, Kentucky Fried Chicken, pizza and diet coke,’’ according to the book.

One of the jobs assigned to Hicks, who is now Trump’s communications director, was to make certain his suits were pressed.

“‘Get the machine!’ ” Trump would yell, according to the book.

“And Hope would take out the steamer and start steaming Mr. Trump’s suit, while he was wearing it. She’d steam the jacket first and then sit in a chair in front of him and steam his pants.”

The authors recount an incident where Trump was in a helicopter when he learned that former campaign boss Paul Manafort said Trump “shouldn’t be on television anymore,” and that Manafort should replace him on TV.

Trump was angrier than Lew­andowski had ever seen him, the book says. He ordered the pilot to fly at a lower altitude so he could make a call.

“I’ll go on TV anytime I goddamn f–king want to and you won’t say another f–king word about me. Tone it down? I wanna turn it up,’’ he thundered. “You’re a political pro? Let me tell you something. I’m a pro at life. I’ve been around a time or two. I know guys like you, with your hair and skin…”

Lewandowski said it was “one of the greatest takedowns in the history of the world.’’
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/03/17 09:02 AM

Well put together, we will see Mueller continue to stay the course and focus on Trump because, all said and done, this Russian involvement was entirely about putting Trump into the White House while making monetary gains. From the firing of Sally Yates,Comey and Flynn himself, you now see the obvious pattern, Trump orchestrated this entire diabolical mess while using surrogates to supposedly isolate himself when the "grit" hit the fan.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-flynn-wasn-apos-t-231731271.html
Posted by: Top Dog

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/03/17 10:47 AM

Trump doesn't have the brains or modesty to let others do his dirty work while he stays in the background. He has proven that on Twitter by admitting he knew his team member was lying to OUR UNITED STATES FBI.

Hard to believe he didn't participate in the process at some point.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/03/17 11:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Trump doesn't have the brains or modesty to let others do his dirty work while he stays in the background. He has proven that on Twitter by admitting he knew his team member was lying to OUR UNITED STATES FBI.

Hard to believe he didn't participate in the process at some point.
Trump will fight with or criticize anyone in this world except for two people: Flynn and Putin. There is no doubt in my mind that Putin has something on him.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/03/17 11:24 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Trump doesn't have the brains or modesty to let others do his dirty work while he stays in the background. He has proven that on Twitter by admitting he knew his team member was lying to OUR UNITED STATES FBI.

Hard to believe he didn't participate in the process at some point.
Trump will fight with or criticize anyone in this world except for two people: Flynn and Putin. There is no doubt in my mind that Putin has something on him.


Yes he does, the only reason that Putin won't or can't implicate Trump, it implicates Putin himself, the fallout? Russians will be factually known as a country who is capable of dishonesty and collusive actions, something most of the world has believed since the cold war.@Top Dog, you're correct,I erroneously gave Trump more credit than he actually deserve. I'll go sit in a corner for a few minutes,please forgive me for my moment of lapse judgement.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/04/17 03:00 PM

https://www.thedailybeast.com/who-wrote-...rible-for-trump

Who Wrote That Flynn Tweet, Trump or Dowd? It Hardly Matters—Both Answers Are Horrible for Trump

There are plenty of arguments for why Trump should step away from his smartphone, but the most compelling might just be that he inadvertently creates legal problems for the causes he advocates—and for himself.

“I would just say this with the president: There’s an ongoing criminal investigation,” Senator Lindsey Graham said on Face the Nation. “You tweet and comment regarding ongoing criminal investigations at your own peril.”

This is also sure to spark a debate over whether things admitted to on Twitter constitute an official statement. Dowd is claiming that “A tweet is a shorthand.” But the White House has said that Trump’s tweets constitute “official statements.”

The new “a tweet is just a tweet” paradigm is a predictable argument to make when it becomes clear that the social network has become a net-negative—and yet, everyone knows the principal won’t abandon the medium. The only way to manage it is to suggest that Twitter doesn’t really count as speech.

In any event, this is where we have arrived. Observers have long warned that Trump’s tweets, while sometimes effective, were tremendously risky. Typically, the reasons cited involve public relations gaffes, as well as more serious concerns about roiling financial markets or inadvertently provoking an international incident. But it turns out that the greatest victim of Trump’s stream-of-conscious tweets clearly is Donald Trump himself. There is, at least, a chance that the “live by the tweet/die by the tweet” maxim might hold true—that information Trump voluntarily gave us, via a tweet about Mike Flynn, could be the thing that hands his political opponents their heretofore most potent weapon. Nothing would be more ironic.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/04/17 05:12 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/white-house-concern-roof-over-061055081.html

White House’s concern is ‘through the roof’ over Russia investigation, Chuck Todd says


Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn agreed to cooperate with Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation late this week, and Meet the Press moderator Chuck Todd says that is causing major concern in the White House.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/04/17 05:19 PM

Normally a calm person will show a nervous demeanor but in Trump's case he triple up on the tweets, goes into attack mode and quadruple the lies and blames.......He knows that the Feds will be coming down his street with an arrest warrant.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/04/17 05:24 PM

The mood here is getting even uglier because Trump and his surrogates are getting nervous....evident by constant topic changes attempting to divert the subject. WHY?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/04/17 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/white-house-concern-roof-over-061055081.html

White House’s concern is ‘through the roof’ over Russia investigation, Chuck Todd says


Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn agreed to cooperate with Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation late this week, and Meet the Press moderator Chuck Todd says that is causing major concern in the White House.



How does one gets so arrogant and powerful to believe that they can't be caught?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/04/17 05:37 PM

An entire year and we never once heard Trump promising to look into the Russia involvement but instead forging ahead in spite of warnings from Obama himself & WH lawyers to hire a man he knew was making contact with Russia.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/trump-tweet-flynn-firing-fbi-reaction/index.html
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/04/17 07:13 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/manafort-bail-russian-intelligence/index.html

It seems that Manafort is showing contempt for the law and will eventually join two other convicted felons. Trump today called the FBI a shambled because of a rogue worker's dismissal but Mueller has so much damning evidence against Him, his Son-in law and others, no amount of back pedaling or pointing a finger at Hillary will spare him or his surrogates from receiving criminal justice. Can't wait for just that move in the coming days....pointing fingers that is!!!! laugh

Remember the BUT BUT BUT chants created by the GOP during the Obama and Hillary era? We do.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/04/17 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
An entire year and we never once heard Trump promising to look into the Russia involvement but instead forging ahead in spite of warnings from Obama himself & WH lawyers to hire a man he knew was making contact with Russia.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/trump-tweet-flynn-firing-fbi-reaction/index.html
Trump also said he would sue all his accusers after elected.

He also said he would hire the best people. LOL
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/04/17 08:07 PM

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/psychiat...mp;noRedirect=1

Psychiatrists warn Trump becoming more mentally unstable,...
[CNBC Videos]
CNBC VideosDecember 4, 2017

A Yale psychiatrist says President Donald Trump has become increasingly mentally unstable in the past week.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/05/17 04:21 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/just-3-sentences-michelle-obama-023004192.html

Michelle Obama's latest public appearance has us wishing she were back in the White House more than ever before. The former first lady recently took the stage at The Obama Foundation Summit in Chicago to discuss all things social media and appeared to make a subtle jab at Donald Trump's infamously unprofessional Twitter habits. But she did it in the classiest, most artful way possible: without even uttering his name.

During a sit-down chat with poet Elizabeth Alexander, Obama touched on the importance of using social media platforms in a cautious and educated manner. "This whole 'tell it like it is' business, that's nonsense," she explained.

And then came the true zinger. "You just don't say what's on your mind. You don't tweet every thought," she said. "Most of your first initial thoughts are not worthy of the light of day." Although the former FLOTUS was quick to clarify that she wasn't "talking about anybody in particular," the crowd's reaction certainly said it all, as many let out audible chuckles and rounds of applause, surmising that she was referring to the current POTUS. On top of that, Alexander semi-sarcastically added, "Hah, we are so not talking about anybody in particular."

Obama went on to make one last social-media-related suggestion to the crowd: "You need to think and spell it right and have good grammar too." Though she insisted her comments were aimed at all social media users, we can only assume they were a thinly veiled dig at Trump, a man whose vocabulary includes made-up terms like "covfefe." Watch the video clip below to see what else the newly crowned Queen of Subtle Shade had to say at the Summit.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/05/17 05:50 AM

I can recall the era of GW Bush when he would make some bonehead statement but his wife Laura being the brains of the family would compensate in some form or fashion. Both Barack and Michelle were intelligent and very articulate, now we're at a point of befuddlement, Trump looks and sounds like the Neanderthal from the Geigo commercial but in this case, the cave man CAN'T DO IT!!!!, Melania?????????, you just pose and look pretty OK?. No joke here,I actually feel sorry for her seeing that her strengths aren't in the field of human relations or articulating any particular agenda.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/05/politics/trump-russia-defense-in-disarray/index.html
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/05/17 04:25 PM

I laughed out loud when I read this today:

Quote:
russians banned for doping.... wish we could ban our russian dope.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-bann...tematic-doping/

Russia banned from 2018 Winter Olympics over doping scandal
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/05/17 04:28 PM

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-trump-obstruct-justice-timing-is-everything/

CBS News December 5, 2017, 7:11 AM
Did Trump obstruct justice? Timing is everything
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/05/17 04:38 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
I laughed out loud when I read this today:

Quote:
russians banned for doping.... wish we could ban our russian dope.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-bann...tematic-doping/

Russia banned from 2018 Winter Olympics over doping scandal


I guess that the entire world has their eyes on Russia, sadly our friendly American dictator has bigger fish to fry, such as lying about Billy Bush's admission of vulgar talk on a bus.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/05/17 05:09 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-apos-approval-rating-plunges-164122364.html
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/06/17 04:05 AM

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/42810...ace-of-trumpism

Eastern Europe Offers Glimpse of What Happens When Right-Wing Extremists Control Policy Apparatus
Tuesday, December 05, 2017

In America, Donald Trump remains a deeply unpopular president. Widespread political resistance to his administration and the Republican Congress has already claimed some early victories. But thanks to the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision in 2010, rich, right-wing, anti-liberal individuals and foundations have had an outsized impact on politics. Buoyed by the support of the Koch brothers and others, the Trump administration will do everything possible over the next three years to bankrupt the economy through tax "reform," pack the courts with anti-liberal judges, shed federal personnel, gut federal regulations, and otherwise ensure that the government it hands to its successor will be as close to drowned as possible.

When it comes to this version of "populism," Eastern Europe led the way. The question now is: Will it again? If anti-Trump forces here don't address persistent voter disgust with the status quo, the Eastern European example offers a grim glimpse of a possible American future as right-wing libertarians, intolerant nationalists, and alt-right extremists secure their lock on the policy apparatus.

Waiting for the "inevitable" pendulum swing of politics is like waiting for Godot. The political scene will not regain equilibrium by itself. In Eastern Europe, as in the United States, the opposition has to jettison those elements of the liberal project that have proven self-defeating -- the economics of inequality and the politics of collusion with the powerful -- and offer a genuine antidote to right-wing populists. If not, you might as well slap a do-not-resuscitate order on liberalism, kiss social welfare goodbye, and brace yourself for a very mean season ahead.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/06/17 07:37 AM

Great article, as I listen to Kelly Conway this morning the thought came mind, my God!!!!!! this is one ugly women (yes I said it) with an ugly disposition , the emphasis being her charming personality. It's incredulous how much we have to lower our moral and legal standards to fit the narrative of our Republican brethren.President Obama and Hillary were held to level of accountability and morality yet we get to witness the GOP version3 with many bugs within it. Trump is now deemed a great man but by old standards, he was a wife(married 3 times) cheater, a liar, sexually harassed women, cheat on his taxes, name call similar to a child.....and these are his positive attributes but Obama was scrutinized over a period of 8 years and at best the Republicans could come up is criticize his policies.(Believe you me, they dug deep for something) Note no scandals, wife cheating, submitted his tax returns, went to a prestigious college along with his wife Michelle and both were prominent lawyers. Now this where it gets fuzzy, the Conservative's attempt to compare the Obama s to the Trumps....no comment needed based on the arrests thus far within the cabinet and the low popularity numbers which are dropping rapidly.


BTW, these new recruits will be protecting our nation.

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army...mental-illness/
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/06/17 02:37 PM

The support of Russia by Trump and his associates is disgusting beyond words.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/w...rity/index.html

Whistleblower: Flynn told colleague Russia sanctions would be 'ripped up'

By Manu Raju and Katelyn Polantz, CNN

CNN Digital Expansion DC Manu Raju

By Manu Raju and Katelyn Polantz, CNN

Updated 2:42 PM ET, Wed December 6, 2017

As President Donald Trump delivered his inaugural address, incoming-national security adviser Michael Flynn texted his former business colleague about a plan to join Russia and build nuclear reactors in the Middle East: The project was "good to go," he told them, according to a summary of a whistleblower's account provided by a lawmaker.

The business colleague who texted with Flynn later recounted that he also suggested sanctions against Russia would be "ripped up" as one of the administration's first acts, according to the whistleblower.

Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, on Wednesday released his summary of the whistleblower's account detailing Flynn's conversations with colleagues as the Trump administration took power. The account provides the strongest claim yet that the administration was focused on unraveling the sanctions that President Barack Obama had just put in place and that Flynn had a personal motivation for doing so.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/06/17 02:48 PM

I think 58 votes for impeachment is a start.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...m_medium=social

The House overwhelmingly voted Wednesday to kill a resolution from a liberal Democratic lawmaker to impeach President Donald Trump as most Democrats joined Republicans in opposing the move.

Rep. Al Green, D-Texas, said Trump had associated his presidency with causes rooted in bigotry and racism. To back his claim accusing Trump of high misdemeanors, Green cited incidents such as Trump's blaming both sides for violence at a deadly white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, and his recent sharing of hateful, anti-Muslim videos posted online by a fringe British extremist group.

After his resolution was read aloud, the House voted 364-58 to table the resolution.

https://www.needtoimpeach.com/sign-the-petition/
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/06/17 03:38 PM

I am sure Trump is envious of his friend Putin who just makes his opponents disappear.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/putin-inches-declaring-election-bid-51611079

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Wednesday he would seek re-election next year in a race he is poised to win easily, putting him on track to become the nation's longest-serving ruler since Soviet dictator Josef Stalin.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/06/17 07:10 PM

Another big surprise
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/07/17 02:19 PM

Bernie Sanders‏Verified account @SenSanders
3h3 hours ago

We have a president who acknowledged on tape that he assaulted women. I would hope that he pays attention to what's going on and think about resigning.

4,022 replies 22,264 retweets 72,956 likes
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/07/17 06:01 PM

Pew Poll: Trump Approval at New Low of 32 Percent


By Jason Devaney

Thursday, 07 Dec 2017 05:50 PM



President Donald Trump's approval rating fell to a new low in the latest Pew Research Center poll.

Key results from the survey of U.S. adults, conducted from Nov. 29-Dec. 4:

32 percent approve of the job Trump is doing, down from 39 percent in a February Pew poll.
76 percent of Republicans or people who lean toward Republican politics approve of Trump, down from 84 percent in February.
7 percent of Democrats or people who lean toward Democratic politics approve of Trump's job performance, down one percentage point from February.
Trump has the lowest approval rating of any president dating back to Ronald Reagan at this point in their presidencies. Bill Clinton has the closest approval number to Trump after one year, 48 percent in 1993.
A combined 59 percent said senior Trump officials either "definitely did" or "probably did" have improper contact with Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign.

RealClearPolitics calculated Trump's most recent approval rating average at 39 percent based on the results of several polls.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/08/17 02:38 AM

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy...kushpmg00000009


Roy Moore Believes America Was Great During Slavery. Twitter Users Detonate.
“Families were united” then, the Senate candidate actually told an African-American person.

GOP Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore stunned some listeners when he said he thought America was “great” during the era of slavery. Though he made the comments at a campaign rally in Florence, Alabama, more than two months ago, they’ve re-emerged in a viral tweet just days before the election.

Back in September, one of the few African-Americans in the crowd asked the candidate when he thought was the “last time” America was great.

Others pointed out that the years before the Civil War were hardly a time of “united families” as enslaved black families were often broken up and members auctioned off individually to other slave owners.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/10/17 12:35 PM

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/12/10/adam-schiff-russian-collusion-damning-sot-sotu.cnn

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) says the signs of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign are damning.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/10/17 12:38 PM

I wish Senator Shelby had come out with this a couple of weeks ago. It might of made a big difference. I assume Senator Shelby is held in high regard by Alabama Republicans.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/richard-shelby-roy-moore-sotu-cnntv/index.html

Sen. Richard Shelby says he wants a Republican elected to the Senate on Tuesday to represent Alabama, but that he didn't vote for GOP candidate Roy Moore in the special election.
The Alabama Republican said he's already cast his ballot, and that he chose a write-in candidate.

"I'd rather see the Republican win, but I'd rather see a Republican write-in. I couldn't vote for Roy Moore. I didn't vote for Roy Moore," Shelby told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/11/17 01:30 AM

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nob...kushpmg00000009

Total nuclear destruction is “only one impulsive tantrum away,” this year’s Noble Peace Prize winner warned while accepting the award for an international anti-nuclear weapons campaign.

“The threat is real. We have avoided nuclear war not through prudent leadership but good fortune. Sooner or later, if we fail to act, our luck will run out,” Beatrice Fihn, executive director of the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (ICAN), said during a ceremony in Oslo on Sunday.

“The risk for nuclear weapons use is even greater today than at the end of the Cold War. But unlike the Cold War, today we face many more nuclear armed states, terrorists and cyber warfare,” she said. “A moment of panic or carelessness, a misconstrued comment or bruised ego, could easily lead us unavoidably to the destruction of entire cities.”

In a speech on Sunday, Berit Reiss-Andersen, chair of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, stressed that the nuclear weapons that instantly killed at least 140,000 people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki ― and later many more by radiation ― are not as destructive as the ones we have today.

“A nuclear war could kill millions of people, dramatically alter the climate and the environment for much of the planet, and destabilize societies in a way never before seen by humanity. The notion of a limited nuclear war is an illusion,” she said.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/11/17 12:30 PM

Sometimes I have a fleeting moment when I hope he wins just to see the fireworks that are certain to result.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy...kushpmg00000009

NEW YORK ― As accused molester Roy Moore heads into a special election for a U.S. Senate seat this week, Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wis.) is taking steps to protect the teenagers in the Senate Page Program from predatory members.

The congresswoman asked the Senate Sergeant at Arms in a letter on Monday to “take steps to prepare the Page Program for the possible election of Roy Moore,” the Alabama Republican accused of pursuing sexual relationships with girls as young as 14. The 30 Senate pages, who are essentially interns, are mostly rising high school juniors and seniors, some as young as 16.

“I write you today to share my urgent concern regarding the threat to the safety of the young men and women working in the United States Senate Page Program if Roy Moore becomes the U.S. senator to Alabama,” Rep. Moore wrote.

“The nature of life on Capitol Hill necessitates long hours in close proximity to lawmakers and staff that can create power dynamics of which young people are not fully aware,” she added.

The congresswoman noted that in 2006, then-Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) resigned from Congress after it came out that he had sent sexually suggestive texts and emails to teenage boys in the Congressional Page Program.

Roy Moore denies having sexually pursued teenage girls, but at least 10 accusers have come forward so far to make claims against him. Polls still show him leading his Democratic opponent, Doug Jones, in Alabama’s special election.

Gwen Moore’s office said she is waiting to hear what steps the Sergeant at Arms will take to protect the pages, and then she will work with child abuse experts and social workers to determine whether those measures are adequate.

“It would be unconscionable for Congress not to be vigilant and proactive in taking precautions to safeguard these children given the well sourced allegations against Moore,” she wrote.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/11/17 12:34 PM

RESIGN TRUMP RESIGN

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/women-wh...-155315955.html

Women who have accused President Trump of sexual harassment held a press conference on Monday morning to ask Congress to investigate his alleged misconduct.

Held by Brave New Films, a nonprofit producer of documentaries based in Los Angeles, the press conference united three of Trump’s accusers for the first time to share “disturbing allegations [that] came to light before the post-Weinstein era of accountability for sexual misconduct and the rise of the #MeToo movement,” a statement noted.


The production company released a video in November called 16 Women and Donald Trump that uses documentary footage. It’s since been viewed more than 2 million times on Facebook.

“Our elected officials, no matter their party affiliation, should act,” said Brave New Films founder and CEO Robert Greenwald.

Sharing their stories at the press event were former Miss USA contestant Samantha Holvey; former Trump Tower receptionist Rachel Crooks; Jessica Leeds, who claims Trump harassed her on a flight; and Lisa Boyne, an entrepreneur who says she attended a dinner party in the ’90s and witnessed “misogynistic behavior” on the part of Trump.

Holvey, Miss North Carolina 2006, said that Trump, the former owner of the Miss USA pageant, lined her up with fellow participants and looked them over “like they were pieces of meat.” Trump also allegedly went into the backstage area while Holvey “sat naked under a robe as he walked around looking at us like we were his property before he moved into the dressing room.”

She now wants “this man to be held accountable for his actions so that future generations of women can fulfill their dreams without worry of anyone treating them like they are less-than because they are a woman.”

Crooks, the former receptionist, claims Trump forcibly kissed her. “Unfortunately, this behavior isn’t rare in our society, and people of all backgrounds can be victims,” she said. “The only reason I’m here today is because this offender is now the president of our country.”

While Crooks shared her story in October 2016, she said, it seemed to fall on deaf ears. On Monday, she noted, “Recently, the #MeToo movement has gained momentum, and women have found strength in one another and the courage to come forward, leading many powerful men to suffer the consequences of their actions. Trump, however, has escaped this path unscathed — but over a dozen women have come forward about his sexual misconduct.” She added that she wants to believe that Americans can “put aside our political inclinations” and “hold Mr. Trump to the same standard as Harvey Weinstein and the other men who were held accountable for their reprehensible behavior.”

Leeds alleged that Trump “decided he was bored and he wanted some entertainment” on a flight in the 1970s. She managed to get away from him, but she ran into him again and, she claims, he remembered her. “I think Trump will eventually be forced to quit, resign,” she said. “I unfortunately feel that the sexual aggression issue is kind of low on the list of things wrong with Trump, but it’s important enough to me to bring this up and hope that we can get some sort of change in our culture that will improve the situation going forward.”

As for Boyne, who spoke out last November about “Trump’s cringeworthy upskirt leering” in a video shared by attorney Lisa Bloom, “no one really cared about my story for 25-plus years,” she said, and that it wasn’t until the Access Hollywood tape was released that she was taken seriously.

Boyne has called on Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy, as well as her representative, Jim Himes — both Democrats — to demand “that Donald Trump goes down like Al Franken,” because what he’s done is “a thousand times worse.”

Holvey, Crooks and Leeds were interviewed by Megyn Kelly on Monday morning. A White House spokesperson responded to NBC with a statement saying, “These false claims, totally disputed in most cases by eyewitness accounts, were addressed at length during last year’s campaign, and the American people voiced their judgement by delivering a decisive victory. The timing and absurdity of these false claims speaks volumes and the publicity tour that has begun only further confirms the political motives behind them.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/11/17 01:35 PM

https://www.thedailybeast.com/condoleezza-rice-on-roy-moore-reject-bigotry-sexism-and-intolerance

Ahead of tomorrow’s special Senate election in her home state of Alabama, Condoleezza Rice on Monday implored voters to reject Roy Moore—without explicitly naming him. In a statement to AL.com, the Birmingham-born ex-secretary of state called the election between Republican and accused pedophile Moore and Democratic nominee Doug Jones as “one of the most significant in Alabama’s history.” She added: “I encourage you to take a stand for our core principles and for what is right. These critical times require us to come together to reject bigotry, sexism, and intolerance.”

While continuing to not name Moore, Rice further swiped at him by telling voters that “It is imperative for Americans to remain focused on our priorities and not give way to side shows and antics. I know that Alabamans need an independent voice in Washington. But we must also insist that our representatives are dignified, decent, and respectful of the values we hold dear.”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/11/17 02:26 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-slammed-throwing-insults-nyt-174753235.html
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/11/17 02:50 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/11/politics/trump-resign-gillibrand-sexual-assault/index.html

Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York told CNN on Monday that President Donald Trump should resign over allegations of sexual assault.

"President Trump has committed assault, according to these women, and those are very credible allegations of misconduct and criminal activity, and he should be fully investigated and he should resign," Gillibrand told CNN's Christiane Amanpour in an exclusive interview.

"These allegations are credible; they are numerous, " said Gillibrand, a leading voice in Congress for combating sexual assault in the military. "I've heard these women's testimony, and many of them are heartbreaking."

If he does not "immediately resign," she said, Congress "should have appropriate investigations of his behavior and hold him accountable."

Responding to UN Ambassador Nikki Haley saying Sunday that Trump's accusers "should be heard," Gillibrand said, "Not only should women be heard, but they should be believed."
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/12/17 07:11 AM

What has happen to the Republican party?


Our old friend and Hollywood hero turned President must be rolling in his grave to see the condition of a party that use to looked out for it's people in terms of social welfare, health care and the economy. Today, this very same party has seen a degradation of character, humanity and honesty by cheating the voters back in 2000 & 2004 by tactics of "CHADS" and electoral manipulations. Once in office we realized greed which falsely made claims of Weapon of Mass destruction and sent 7 thousands men and women to their deaths, not to mention the thousands suffering as we speak from injuries. We witnessed a thriving economy turned into a recession but as of now, a party who has turns a blind eye to doing nothing for healthcare, taking money from the middle class and sending said finances to the rich and powerful. lastly we have a party with no moral backbone by supporting pedophilia and sexual harassment by stating that it's party over morality......If Ronald Reagan was living today, what are the chances that he would denounce the party of deviates? 100%
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/12/17 09:18 AM

I will go out on a limb and suggest that Alabama's Senate race will see another Republican win tonight, this race isn't about retaining a seat but more a moratorium on politics,race, religion and ethics. We have before us a Liberal candidate running in a Conservative state and an it's an uphill battle to run against racism and Conservatism in a state which backs a Republican child predators, speaks for itself, but you never know,maybe the Red state may garner some diversity and open mindedness.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/12/17 11:34 AM


Expecting the worst, hoping for the best.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/13/17 03:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Timbo

Expecting the worst, hoping for the best.
America may be on the road to recovery!

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/13/alabama-senate-trump-moore-jones-293755

Doug Jones didn’t just defeat Roy Moore in Alabama’s Senate race on Tuesday night — he administered the most crushing and embarrassing political blow of President Donald Trump’s young presidency.

Jones’ win meant that Trump, who had endorsed Luther Strange in the Republican primary before backing Moore in the general election, threw his weight behind the losing candidate not once, but twice, in the Alabama race.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/13/17 05:49 AM

As of last night, everything Trump supports or endorses, goes down in embarrassing flame, nominated Jeff Session for Attorney General , thus vacating a Senate seat in Alabama, endorses Luther Strange who is defeated and later on , endorses a controversial Republican who he initially despised. Now this morning he tweeted that he knew that Roy Moore could not win anyhow. Tell us Donald, why did you waste taxpayer's money by going down to stomp for him?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/13/17 06:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
As of last night, everything Trump supports or endorses, goes down in embarrassing flame, nominated Jeff Session for Attorney General , thus vacating a Senate seat in Alabama, endorses Luther Strange who is defeated and later on , endorses a controversial Republican who he initially despised. Now this morning he tweeted that he knew that Roy Moore could not win anyhow. Tell us Donald, why did you waste taxpayer's money on going down to stomp for him?
Trump complained so much about Sessions that if Sessions had any sense of self-worth he would of quit. Trump thinks everything is all about him. I have never seen such a conceited self-centered person in my life.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/13/17 06:17 AM

Absolutely Sir, now the million dollar question, how much degradation and harm to the GOP before they admit this man is destroying their party?
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/13/17 11:50 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo

Expecting the worst, hoping for the best.
America may be on the road to recovery!

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/13/alabama-senate-trump-moore-jones-293755

Doug Jones didn’t just defeat Roy Moore in Alabama’s Senate race on Tuesday night — he administered the most crushing and embarrassing political blow of President Donald Trump’s young presidency.

Jones’ win meant that Trump, who had endorsed Luther Strange in the Republican primary before backing Moore in the general election, threw his weight behind the losing candidate not once, but twice, in the Alabama race.

smile
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/13/17 12:04 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/senate-2018-map/index.html

Doug Jones' stunning victory in Alabama on Tuesday night sent a very clear signal heading into the 2018 election: No Republican Senate seat is safe.

What that means is this: Democrats now have a reason to believe that they could do something that was considered unthinkable as recently as the start of this week: Retake control of the Senate next November.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 12/13/17 04:54 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/inside-white-house-alabama-blame/index.html

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Trump's onetime chief strategist Steve Bannon, and the White House's own fledgling political office all appeared due for recrimination by the President and his allies.

Even as blame was being laid, however, Republicans outside the White House acknowledged that Trump's own political toxicity and his insistence on forging his own path would remain stumbling blocks as the GOP works to retain control of Congress in next year's elections.

"This is the worst political operation in my lifetime in a White House, Republican or Democrat," said one Republican close to the White House. "It's just a rudderless ship with no direction and no captain."

"The President is ill-served because there's nobody of substance or any leadership that can help him with these issues," the Republican said.

Of course, those advisers are only effective if the President actually listens to them.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/14/17 01:42 PM

Trump’s bizarre choice to oversee chemical safety laws withdraws
12/14/17 09:20 AM—UPDATED 12/14/17 09:40 AM
By Steve Benen


If we held a contest to find the most offensive Donald Trump nominee for any post, Michael Dourson would be a very strong contender.

The Republican president decided over the summer that Dourson should lead the Environmental Protection Agency’s office of chemical safety, which was outlandish, even by Trump World standards. Dourson has spent much of his career not only accepting money from the chemical industry, but also helping chemical companies fight against chemical safety regulations.

Making matters worse, emails recently came to public light showing Dourson maintaining correspondence with chemical industry officials – even after Trump nominated him for the EPA post in which he’d help oversee toxic chemical regulation. Released emails detailed “an unusually close relationship with the American Chemistry Council and with individual companies whose products are scheduled for priority review” by the EPA.

Yesterday, as the New York Times reported, Dourson withdrew from consideration, ending this fiasco.

In recent weeks, two Republican senators came forward to say they would not support him.

Senator Thomas R. Carper, Democrat of Delaware and a member of the Environment and Public Works Committee, had pushed his colleagues to reject Mr. Dourson. He said Wednesday that his objections were not partisan.

“I sincerely believe he is the wrong person to hold this important position, and it’s become clear that, even with a Republican majority in the Senate, he could not be confirmed,” Mr. Carper said in a statement. “Dr. Dourson, an individual who has spent most of his career promoting less protective chemical safety standards, had no business overseeing our nation’s chemical safety laws.”

The two GOP opponents of Dourson’s nomination were Sens. Richard Burr and Thom Tillis, both of North Carolina.

These developments appear to be a victory for common sense, but I’m left with a couple of questions. For example, if Burr and Tillis hadn’t balked, exactly how many Senate Republicans were prepared to confirm Dourson for this EPA post?


And second, can someone in the Trump White House explain how and why Dourson was nominated for this position in the first place?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/15/17 02:58 AM

This is an amazing comment by George Will.

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President Trump is now the nation’s worst president. At least according to Washington Post columnist George Will.

Will, a known conservative pundit and an outspoken Trump critic, tore into the president in an op-ed Thursday, arguing that Trump’s support of Alabama GOP Senate candidate and accused child molester Roy Moore disqualifies him from public office.

“He is an anti-constitutional recidivist, twice removed from Alabama’s highest court for his theocratic insistence that his religious convictions take precedence over U.S. Supreme Court decisions, so he could not have sincerely sworn to ‘support and defend the Constitution’ and to ‘bear true faith and allegiance to the same,'” Will wrote about Moore.

“After the president’s full-throated support of the grotesque, he should be icily shunned by all but his diehard collaborators,” Will wrote.

Will went on to argue that Trump’s decision to back Moore makes him officially the “nation’s worst president.”

“By joining Stephen K. Bannon’s buffoonery on Moore’s behalf, the 45th president planted an exclamation point punctuating a year of hitherto unplumbed presidential depths,” he wrote. “He completed his remarkably swift — it has taken less than 11 months — rescue of the 17th, Andrew Johnson, from the ignominy of ranking as the nation’s worst president.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/15/17 04:11 AM

Idiot Junior.

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Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes
9h9 hours ago

Chris Hayes Retweeted Donald Trump Jr.

He's....not Obama's FCC chairman. Your father made him chair.

Chris Hayes added,
Donald Trump Jr.
Verified account @DonaldJTrumpJr
I would pay good money to see all those people complaining about Obama’s FCC chairman voting to repeal #NetNeutality actually explain it in detail. I’d also bet most hadn’t heard of it before this week. #outrage
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Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/15/17 04:38 AM

http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/rep-schiff-putin-playing-trump-like-a-fiddle-1116979779746

Rep. Schiff: Putin playing Trump like a fiddle

The Washington Post has reports on how President Trump is willfully ignoring Russia's attack on our democracy.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/17/17 01:15 PM

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/...stianity-216068

This Evangelical Leader Denounced Trump. Then the Death Threats Started.

Jen Hatmaker is one of the most popular religious figures in America—and she is paying a steep price for speaking out for what she believes.

By TIFFANY STANLEY December 17, 2017

Last fall, Jen Hatmaker, a popular evangelical author and speaker, started getting death threats. Readers mailed back her books to her home address, but not before some burned the pages or tore them into shreds. LifeWay Christian Stores, the behemoth retailer of the Southern Baptist Convention, pulled her titles off the shelves. Hatmaker was devastated. Up until that point, she had been a wildly influential and welcome presence in the evangelical world, a Christian author whose writings made the New York Times best-seller list and whose home renovation got its own HGTV series. But then 2016 happened, and, well, of course everything changed.

During the campaign, as other white evangelicals coalesced around the Republican nominee, Hatmaker effectively joined the coterie of “Never Trump” evangelicals, telling her more than half a million Facebook followers that Donald Trump made her “sad and horrified and despondent.” After the “Access Hollywood” tape leaked and prominent evangelical men came to Trump’s defense, she tweeted: “We will not forget. Nor will we forget the Christian leaders that betrayed their sisters in Christ for power.”

Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/18/17 01:28 AM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-r...ce-2008-n830436

Dec 17 2017, 9:00 am ET

Democrats hold biggest lead in congressional preference since 2008

by Mark Murray

WASHINGTON — Fresh off their victory in Alabama’s special Senate election, Democrats now enjoy their largest advantage in congressional preference in nine years, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, signaling a dangerous political environment for Republicans entering next year’s midterm elections.

Fifty percent of registered voters say they prefer a Democratic-controlled Congress, versus 39 percent who want Republicans in charge.

The last time Democrats both held a double-digit lead and hit 50 percent on this question in the NBC/WSJ poll was September 2008, right before the party won the White House and picked up a substantial number of House and Senate seats.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/19/17 05:38 AM


Former Intelligence Chief James Clapper: Putin Is Handling Trump Like A Russian ‘Asset’
“We have to remember Putin’s background. He’s a KGB officer.”

By Ed Mazza

Vladimir Putin is cultivating Donald Trump as if the U.S. president is a Russian asset, according to former intelligence chief James Clapper.

“[Putin] knows how to handle an asset, and that’s what he’s doing with the president,” Clapper said Monday on CNN.

Clapper, who served as director of national intelligence under President Barack Obama, called the Russian president a “great case officer.”

“You’re saying that Russia is handling President Trump as an asset?” CNN’s Jim Sciutto asked.

“That seems to be... that’s the appearance to me,” replied Clapper.

Later in the conversation, Sciutto circled back to the “asset” comments.

“I’m saying this figuratively,” Clapper clarified, adding:

“We have to remember Putin’s background. He’s a KGB officer. That’s what they do. They recruit assets, and I think some of that experience and instincts of Putin is coming to play here in his managing a pretty important account for him, if I could use that term, with our president.”

Clapper has been highly critical of Trump, calling a campaign-style rally the president held in Phoenix over the summer “scary and disturbing.”

“I worry about, frankly, the access to nuclear codes,” he said in August. “In a fit of pique, if he decides to do something about Kim Jong Un, there’s actually very little to stop him.”


Clapper had previously served under President George W. Bush as undersecretary of defense for intelligence.

Obama appointed him as director of national intelligence, a Cabinet-level position, in 2010 over the objection of some lawmakers who wanted a civilian in the role. At the time, Obama praised Clapper’s “willingness to tell leaders what we need to know even if it’s not what we want to hear.”

Clapper was accused of lying to Congress in 2013 about the scope of the Obama administration’s surveillance of Americans, which was later exposed in the Edward Snowden leaks.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/19/17 05:49 AM

If you watched the national Security speech yesterday, it was almost surreal, Trump talked of global threats but navigated around any mention of Russia being an actual and present danger to our very democracy. How dumb must anyone be to not comprehend the hypocrisy toward the American people and the fear Trump has toward Mr. Putin who can treat our president like a female dog while getting away with it?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/19/17 06:04 AM

Your article in the debate thread is so funny, I'll leave it intact but we are slowly realizing the karma and paybacks Trump is receiving. During his campaign, nothing was left on the table in his attempts to embarrass his opponents in every conceivable manner, well guess who is now getting the last laugh as he holds the world stage and makes a mockery of the highest position in the world?


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Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/19/17 06:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Your article in the debate thread is so funny, I'll leave it intact but we are slowly realizing the karma and paybacks Trump is receiving. During his campaign, nothing was left on the table in his attempts to embarrass his opponents in every conceivable manner, well guess who is now getting the last laugh as he holds the world stage and makes a mockery of the highest position in the world?


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TR‏ @tenax666
14h14 hours ago

Its his tiny hands. Can't get a good grip with one only
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Re: Draining the swamp - 12/19/17 01:39 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Its his tiny hands. Can't get a good grip with one only
grin



Now, THIS is how it's done.

Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/19/17 01:56 PM

LOL. Love it.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/22/17 06:55 AM

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/22/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-cold-war-216157

Trump, Putin and the New Cold War

The conflict is back. But this time, only one side is fighting.

By SUSAN B. GLASSER December 22, 2017
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 12/31/17 02:50 PM

Barack Obama
‏ @ThePresObama
2h2 hours ago

A special note to the Trump family this #NewYearsEve2017, know that Robert Mueller doesn’t sleep, he waits.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/01/18 02:45 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/21/opinions/best-of-2017-opinions/index.html

Dean Obeidallah: Donald Trump's most bone-chilling tweet

Here is Trump's truly jaw-dropping tweet from Saturday morning: "The opinion of this so-called judge, which essentially takes law-enforcement away from our country, is ridiculous and will be overturned!"
Why is this so concerning? It's OK to argue about whether the judge should or shouldn't have issued this order. But Trump is apparently attempting to delegitimize our federal judiciary by calling Judge James Robart, a George W. Bush-appointed judge, a "so-called" judge while arguing that his decision is "ridiculous."

Let's be blunt, because the stakes demand it: An independent federal judiciary is our last, best hope at preventing Trump from violating the US Constitution and illegally grabbing power. And Trump has to understand that, hence his attempt to undermine it.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/02/18 05:19 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/01/opinions/n...nion/index.html

After almost a full year of Donald Trump's presidency, and with a new year freshly started, I think it's safe to say that we're all exhausted.
I remember thinking after the first few months of 2017 went by, "He can't possibly keep this pace up -- governing by tweet -- it's unsustainable."
Clearly, I was wrong.
Kurt Bardella


Just three days before 2018 began, in an impromptu interview with The New York Times, President Donald Trump declared that one of the reasons "I'm going to win another four years is because newspapers, television, all forms of media will tank if I'm not there because without me, their ratings are going down the tubes. Without me, The New York Times will indeed be not the failing New York Times, but the failed New York Times. So they basically have to let me win."

After reading this, I realized that Trump won't relent in 2018 and, to the contrary, will ratchet things up.
Trump's words to the Times indicate that the press will abet him out of self-interest. But in a broader sense, he's banking on the idea that the rest of us -- media, commentators and citizens alike -- can't or won't keep pace with his blusterous attacks and that by the default of complacency, he'll win.
That's why the most meaningful New Year's resolution we can make is to get serious about really participating in the political conversations happening in this country.

For freedom of the press in America, 2018 could be one of the most consequential years in our nation's history. Grappling with history and our place in it can seem opaque and out of our reach, but we have to do it anyway, because the President of the United States spent the entirety of his first year in office leading an unrelenting assault on the First Amendment.
He is expecting the free press to "let him win" his next presidential election -- which raises the question: What if they don't?

26 voices on why the free press matters

The free press is the first line of defense of our republic. It is the media that can demand truth from power and hold those who wield that massive power accountable to the people. The press represents the American people's check-and-balance on government.
But the media cannot operate in a vacuum -- which is where our New Year's resolution to participate comes in. Now more than ever, the media needs an engaged, informed and vocal public.
Silence is as dangerous as ignorance and complacency.
It is the silence of the Republican Party's leadership that allowed the extremists now in charge to hijack it and pave the way for the GOP to openly embrace socially destructive themes of sexism, racism, discrimination, homophobia, xenophobia and even an alleged sexual predator.
The Republican Party's collective cowardice signaled weakness in its leadership and created the opening for Trump, Steve Bannon and their ilk to exploit their silence to seize control of the party and imprint their will and radical agenda on it.
Their brand of hate feeds off the fear and ignorance that thrives when the people are silent or disengaged from participating in politics.
2017 was a preamble, the beginning, the first act of Donald Trump's war against truth and fact.

Can we turn 2017's anger into 2018's humanity?

Five questions for year two of Trump presidency
And 2018 is likely to be a transformational year in our political and civil discourse.
That is why it is, urgently, our job to remain diligent about the facts and to speak up to defend them.
It is our job to participate in the political process, not just on election day, but every day -- because you can rest assured, the enemies of the First Amendment aren't taking any days off in their crusade to remake the fabric of our country.
It is our job to broaden the conversation and expand the circle of those who are a part of it.
Ask yourself: What can I do to learn more, share more, speak out more and include more in 2018?
Twenty or 30 years from now, your children or grandchildren are probably going to ask you what it was like to live in 2018. They'll look back on this time with the same moral clarity that we now can look back on the Vietnam era or World War II. Younger generations of Americans may well ask you what you did to fight back against the people who are trying to take our country backward.

Your voice can matter. When you watch the news -- and discuss it with those around you -- it matters. When you "like" or "share" something on social media -- it matters. Your voice amplifies that of the reporters, commentators and politicians. Without you, they are nothing.


Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/03/18 06:51 PM

The sad side of this story is that most of Trumps uneducated base will never hear about this. They will still think there was voter fraud.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru...kushpmg00000009

President Donald Trump announced Wednesday that he was ending a panel convened in May to investigate voter fraud.

The White House’s announcement came as a surprise. Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the panel’s vice chair, said last week that it would meet in January.

The sudden dissolution of the panel is a victory for voting rights advocates, who relentlessly attacked the panel and the officials on it who had a history of exaggerating voter fraud.

“President Trump created his sham voting commission to substantiate a lie he told about voter fraud in the 2016 election. When he couldn’t come up with any fake evidence, and under relentless pressure, he had no choice but to disband his un-American commission. President Trump won’t stop lying about voter fraud, or end his assault on voting rights, but today is a good day for democracy. Good riddance,” said Jason Kander in a statement.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/04/18 12:47 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ivanka-trump-apos-dumb-brick-212700928.html

Ivanka Trump is 'as dumb as a brick' according to Steve Bannon, new book claims
The Independent Clark Mindock,The Independent 9 hours ago
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/04/18 12:50 AM

Trump only has two friends he has not yet forsaken. Flynn and Putin.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-burned-steve-bannon-195606808.html

Over the years, Trump has repeatedly said nice things about Bannon, calling him a friend, defending him against accusations of racism and saying he would be “tough and smart” at Breitbart. But he’s also repeatedly downplayed his role in the campaign — saying “you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late” — and in the White House — saying “I am my own strategist” and calling him just “a guy who works for me.”

White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders also criticized the book in a statement.

“This book is filled with false and misleading accounts from individuals who have no access or influence with the White House,” she said.

Trump has had a relationship with Bannon since 2015, when he was interviewed for a Breitbart radio show. The New York magazine excerpt claims that the relationship first started to sour after Bannon was featured on the cover of TIME magazine in February of 2017. Bannon left the White House in August to return to Breitbart.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/04/18 04:08 AM

A man runs for senator as a Republican in Alabama, the reddest of red states. A state that Trump won by a huge margin. This candidate ends up being supported strongly by Trump and Bannon who both campaigned for him. This guy loses to a Democrat! This hasn't happened in Alabama in decades! Now Trump and Bannon are at each others throats. Is the Republican party going to fall apart completely? Split in two? I have doubted it until now. A major political party hasn't broke apart in over 100 years but I think it is possible now at the rate they are going.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/04/18 06:45 AM

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/03/trump-25th-amendment-mental-health-322625

Lawmakers concerned about President Donald Trump’s mental state summoned Yale University psychiatry professor Dr. Bandy X. Lee to Capitol Hill last month for two days of briefings about his recent behavior.

In private meetings with more than a dozen members of Congress held on Dec. 5 and 6, Lee briefed lawmakers — all Democrats except for one Republican senator, whom Lee declined to identify. Her professional warning to Capitol Hill: “He’s going to unravel, and we are seeing the signs.”

Richard Painter, who served as chief White House ethics lawyer under President George W. Bush, tweeted on Tuesday of the president’s comments about North Korea, “This Tweet alone is grounds for removal from office under the 25th Amendment. This man should not have nukes.”


But Lee’s campaign on Capitol Hill is far from over. Later this month, she has been invited to speak in front of another group of lawmakers, hosted by Connecticut Democratic Rep. Rosa DeLauro at her home. And she has been invited to speak at a town hall by Maryland Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin, who has proposed a bill to set up a commission to evaluate the president’s fitness for office.

Raskin’s bill would create a body in Congress to evaluate the president’s fitness. “The judgment [about the president’s mental state] is not mine to make,” the freshman congressman said in an interview. “The judgment constitutionally is to be made by the vice president and the Cabinet, or the vice president and a new body. We have an institutional responsibility to set that body up.”

Over the past few months, Raskin said he has seen “a rising chorus of questions about this.” A bill that was at first viewed as a lark, with few co-sponsors, now has 56 co-sponsors. “Lawmakers, the media and lots of people in the public have been calling me about my bill,” he said. “The tweet yesterday set off alarm bells across the country. I’m trying to reassure people that our Constitution has a provision to deal with this.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/04/18 12:55 PM

In case you missed it

HuffPost
‏Verified account @HuffPost
17h17 hours ago

Trump reportedly loves to eat from McDonald's because he's afraid of being poisoned
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/04/18 06:18 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-bannon-f...topstories.html

President Donald Trump’s ongoing feud with former White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon took center stage on the late-night TV circuit Wednesday and one host even warned his audience to brace themselves because “the rats are finally eating their young.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/05/18 01:56 AM

President Donald Trump’s attempt to shut down a controversial book about his presidential campaign appeared to have backfired Thursday when the publisher announced the book will be released days early.

Michael Wolff tweeted Thursday that his book, Fire and Fury, will be released on Friday, Jan. 5, in response to legal actions by Trump’s lawyer. It was originally scheduled for release on Jan. 9.

The explosive book includes former White House strategist Steve Bannon revealing new details of a campaign meeting with Russian operatives, as first reported by The Guardian.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/05/18 07:05 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/05/politics/trump-book-image/index.html

Trump's lawyers fired off cease and desist letters to Bannon and to Wolff's publisher. Trump friends Anthony Scaramucci and Christopher Ruddy toured cable news television studios to defend the President.
The publisher, for its part, responded by moving up the release date to Friday.

But any day when the White House has to rebut questions about the President's mental stability is hardly a good one. And the Trump team's attempt to discredit Wolff faces another complication: the fact that his book broadly tends to corroborate many themes that have arisen in existing news reports about Trump's personality.

In October, for instance, Republican Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee raised questions about Trump's temperament by describing his White House as an "adult day care center." Last April, Axios quoted senior administration officials as saying there was a need to keep "smart, sane people around Trump to fight his worst impulses."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/05/18 11:46 AM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-r...t-trump-n834956

A new year brings an increasingly isolated President Trump

by Chuck Todd, Mark Murray and Carrie Dann

Add up all of this week’s White House news and activities (or lack thereof), and you see an increasingly isolated President Trump. Maybe that explains the president’s tweetstorm from Tuesday…

And meet the second-loneliest man in Washington right now: Jeff Sessions

Highlights from the latest bombshell report on the Russia investigation

Trump sounds off on Wolff book, and Wolff fires back on 'Today'

Last night, President Trump tweeted this reaction to Michael Wolff's new book, "Fire and Fury":

“I authorized Zero access to White House (actually turned him down many times) for author of phony book! I never spoke to him for book. Full of lies, misrepresentations and sources that don’t exist. Look at this guy’s past and watch what happens to him and Sloppy Steve!” — referring to Steve Bannon.

On "Today" this morning, Wolff replied, “I absolutely spoke to the president. Whether he realized it was an interview or not, I don’t know, but it certainly was not off the record.”

Trump’s lawyers tried to stop the publication of Michael Wolff’s book. It didn’t work.

Wolff told “Today” that Trump is “a man who has less credibility than, perhaps, anyone who has ever walked on earth.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/06/18 07:14 AM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced this week ― days after President Donald Trump bragged about the size and effectiveness of his “Nuclear Button” (which doesn’t exist) ― that the agency will hold a public session on how to prepare for a nuclear explosion.

The CDC said its briefing, which is scheduled for the afternoon of Jan. 16, will address “planning and preparation efforts” for such a strike.

“While a nuclear detonation is unlikely, it would have devastating results and there would be limited time to take critical protection steps,” the CDC explained in its description of the event. “Despite the fear surrounding such an event, planning and preparation can lessen deaths and illness.”

The agency said most people “don’t realize that sheltering in place for at least 24 hours is crucial to saving lives and reducing exposure to radiation.”

Good to know.

Trump and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un have been engaged in an escalating battle of threats and taunts over their respective nuclear arsenals. A defiant Pyongyang has made major advances to its nuclear program over the past year, and has directly threatened Americans. Trump has responded by saying the U.S. would “totally destroy” the hermit kingdom, a nation of 25 million people, if provoked.

In the event of an actual nuclear war, “there would be survivors for days trying to make their way out of the rubble and back home, dying of radiation poisoning,” Jeffrey Lewis, a nuclear policy expert at Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey, previously told HuffPost.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/06/18 10:09 AM

Barack Obama
‏ @ThePresObama
6m6 minutes ago

Calling himself a #stablegenius is actually genius. @realDonaldTrump can plead insanity when Mueller comes for him.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/06/18 01:26 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

As ‘Fire and Fury’ is published, Europe openly debates: ‘Is Trump still sane?’
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/07/18 05:24 AM

Trump is so much better suited to be a dictator than a president of a democracy. He says whatever comes into his head and posts it on Twitter.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-suggests-wants-us-172200667.html

President Donald Trump has hit out at “very weak” libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive new book detailing the inner workings of the White House as “fiction”.

Suggesting he would like to see tougher laws on speech, Mr Trump said that if libel laws “were strong... you wouldn’t have things like that happen where you can say whatever comes into your head” – referring to Michael Wolff’s book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House.

In one of his morning tweets, the President said critics were “taking out the old Ronald Reagan playbook and screaming mental stability and intelligence.” Mr Trump added that going from successful businessman to reality TV star to President on his first try “would qualify as not smart, but genius .... and a very stable genius at that!”

Former President Reagan died in 2004, at age 93, from pneumonia complicated by the Alzheimer’s disease that had progressively clouded his mind. At times during his time in the White House Mr Reagan would appear to lose his train of thought, but his diagnosis came years after he left the Oval Office.

White House Chief of Staff John Kelly told reporters at Camp David that Mr Trump did not seem angry about the book and on Friday night had watched a new film, The Greatest Showman about legendary circus promoter P T Barnum, with Republicans and his cabinet.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/07/18 03:39 PM

Can you believe how many times these guys change their stories! And Trump said he would only hire the best! LOL Steve Miller reminds me of Kellyanne Conway. Non stop dribble.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/07/politics/stephen-miller-donald-trump-cnntv/index.html

A top White House aide called Steve Bannon's comments in a new book on President Donald Trump "grotesque" Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union" before anchor Jake Tapper cut him off for not answering questions.

"It's tragic and unfortunate that Steve would make these grotesque comments so out of touch with reality and obviously so vindictive," White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller said, referring to Trump's former chief strategist.

During the contentious interview, Miller offered largely combative responses and focused on presenting Trump as a "political genius," repeatedly refusing to answer questions until Tapper decided to cut him off and move to the next segment.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cnn-cuts-off-trump-adviser-173900606.html

CNN’s Jake Tapper cut off a Trump administration official during an interview and accused him of “wasting my viewer’s time" as the adviser tried to defend Donald Trump from claims contained in an explosive new book.

Top White House policy adviser Stephen Miller appeared on CNN’s State of the Union to field questions about Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, a controversial new account of the Trump presidency by journalist Michael Wolff.

Mr Miller, however, avoided questions about a certain, controversial Trump campaign meeting – one that former White House strategist Steve Bannon told Mr Wolff was “unpatriotic” and “treasonous”. Mr Miller called the comments “grotesque,” and claimed Mr Bannon could not be a credible source on the meeting because he “wasn’t even there when it went down”.

"It reads like an angry, vindictive person spouting off to a highly discreditable author," Mr Miller said of the book. "The author is a garbage author of a garbage book."

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/07/politics/donald-trump-steve-bannon/index.html

Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon said Sunday he regretted not responding sooner to comments attributed to him that were critical of Donald Trump Jr. in an explosive new book on the White House.

"Donald Trump, Jr. is both a patriot and a good man," read Bannon's statement, which CNN obtained Sunday from a source close to Bannon. "He has been relentless in his advocacy for his father and the agenda that has helped turn our country around."

The statement later adds: "I regret that my delay in responding to the inaccurate reporting regarding Don Jr has diverted attention from the president's historical accomplishments in the first year of (Trump's) presidency."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/...-off-rails.html

President Trump took a new shot at “Fake News CNN” on Sunday after anchor Jake Tapper suddenly ended an ultra-tense interview with White House policy adviser and Trump loyalist Stephen Miller.

“Jake Tapper of Fake News CNN just got destroyed in his interview with Stephen Miller of the Trump Administration. Watch the hatred and unfairness of this CNN flunky!” Trump tweeted.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/08/18 01:56 AM

Chris Hayes
‏Verified account @chrislhayes
5h5 hours ago

One thing I perversely enjoy about Trump is the maniacal way he takes a sledgehammer to every single last putatively conservative virtue: fidelity, honestly, loyalty, honor, industry and on and on and on.
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Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/08/18 01:57 AM

This stable genius can't spell very good.

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CNN
‏Verified account @CNN
2h2 hours ago

US President Donald Trump has deleted a Tweet citing his "consensual presidency" after the typo was caught by the Twittersphere
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/08/18 02:00 AM

This is certainly the truth. I hope the end is near.

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George Takei
‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei
15h15 hours ago

When they work for you, Donald, they are "brilliant" and "good guys." When they leave and speak the truth to the press and to the FBI, they are "sloppy" and "liars." There will soon be too many bodies thrown under the Trump bus for it to keep going
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/08/18 06:20 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-mixes-apos-consequential-apos-101446473.html

Just a day after he declared himself a “very stable genius” and “like, really smart,” President Donald Trump mixed up the word “consequential” with “consensual” in an embarrassing tweet.

The screwup appeared in a Sunday night tweet in which Trump praised a supportive column in the New York Post. Writer Michael Goodwin lauded Trump’s “enormous consequential presidency,” but Trump referred to it in his tweet as an “enormous consensual presidency.”

When Trump asked readers to check out the entire piece, he also mistakenly posted Goodwin’s email address instead of a link to the column. In addition, he used an ellipsis in his tweet to conveniently skip over Goodwin’s remark about his “own frustration” over Trump’s “missteps.”

Someone quickly noticed the gaffe before it was changed (and “missteps” added). By then, Twitter had gone wild and the hashtag #consensualpresidency was born. Several tweeters called it a “Freudian slip” because of Trump’s controversial “grab ’em by the pussy” comment to “Access Hollywood.”

PAPYRUS font @JennaGoose

A "consensual presidency" is when one grabs a country by the pussy and they let you, because you're a star. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/950194495223730176
10:00 PM - Jan 7, 2018

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MSNBC’s Joy Reid couldn’t help but notice the timing of the phrase “consensual presidency” just as women were appearing in black at the Golden Globes to protest sexual harassment.

Joy Reid
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@JoyAnnReid

He also coined the soon-to-be trending term “consensual presidency,” on the night of the black dress, #TIMESUP #goldenglobes no less. Yeah this show won’t make it to season two... pic.twitter.com/CG2isRxrKI
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/08/18 04:45 PM

What a disgusting bunch.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/08/politics/steve-bannon-apology-trump/index.html

The simple fact is that Bannon is running scared -- knowing that much of his professional life depends on not being enemy #1 of the president. And, he knows that the most tried and true way back into Trump's good graces is total flattery.

Word out of the White House is that Bannon's apology hasn't sated Trump, that it is too little, too late. "I don't believe there's any way back for Mr. Bannon at this point," deputy White House press secretary Hogan Gidley said on Monday afternoon en route to Nashville with the President.

Maybe. But remember that Trump's grudges aren't like other peoples' grudges. He holds them until he decides he doesn't want to anymore or that it is politically advantageous -- or good TV -- for him to end the grudge.
Need evidence? Guess who flew to Tennessee on Air Force One today with President Trump? None other than "Liddle Bob Corker," the Tennessee Republican senator who repeatedly raised questions about Trump's mental stability and fitness for office last year.

How did the two reconcile? Corker reversed course and voted for Trump's tax cut bill and the two commiserated over the alleged "fake news" surrounding the Tennessee senator's motivation for his flip flop.

Bannon's apology is his hope he can follow that same Corker character arc with Trump.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/09/18 03:19 AM

Oprah Winfrey added her voice to the national reckoning over sexual harassment and misconduct in a history-making speech at Sunday night’s Golden Globe Awards ― but it seems some aspects of her oration were lost on President Donald Trump’s elder daughter, Ivanka.

Though Winfrey didn’t mention the names of any of the men whose alleged bad behavior has dominated headlines in the past year, she assured women and girls, as the first black woman to receive the the Cecil B. DeMille Award, that “time is up” for powerful, abusive men who have been silencing, hurting and exploiting women.

The speech brought the crowd to their feet and ignited calls for the media mogul to run for president in 2020. Winfrey’s powerful response also took direct aim at men, including the likes of the president, who have been accused of abusing their power to target women. Trump has been accused of sexual harassment, assault or misconduct by more than a dozen women.

Still, Ivanka tweeted her praise for Winfrey’s speech late Monday night, calling it “empowering and inspiring.” She then called on women and men to unite in a cause that was created, in large part, to fight against men exactly like her father.

Time’s Up Now, the cause Winfrey specifically mentioned in her speech and the initiative that prompted women on the Golden Globes red carpet to wear black, is an organization set up by women in the entertainment industry who are fighting against sexual misconduct in various fields. It includes a legal defense fund to help pay fees for women who are being sexually harassed at work and want to take action.

Unsurprisingly, acidic responses to Ivanka’s tweet came pouring in, as public figures, celebrities, journalists and advocates pointed out the hypocrisy of the message and called on the president’s daughter to support the women accusing her father of harassment, misconduct and assault.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/09/18 11:50 AM

I can't believe that an American president is in first place here. How can any American support him? He may destroy our democratic way of life.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru...kushpmg00000009

POLITICS 01/09/2018 09:47 am ET

Trump Named The World’s No. 1 Oppressor Of Press Freedom
A journalism group named the president among repressive leaders who “have gone out of their way to attack the press” and undermine free speech.

President Donald Trump, who recently said he would announce the “MOST DISHONEST & CORRUPT MEDIA AWARDS OF THE YEAR,” has been awarded the title of the world’s most oppressive leader toward press freedom by the Committee to Protect Journalists.

Trump claimed the journalism organization’s top prize for “overall achievement in undermining global press freedom,” and joins four other leaders, including strongmen like Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Russian leader Vladimir Putin, who “have gone above and beyond to silence critical voices and weaken democracy,” the Committee to Protect Journalists said Monday.

The group said its awards were for “recognizing world leaders who have gone out of their way to attack the press and undermine the norms that support freedom of the media.” Though CPJ determined that countries like Russia and China hold the tightest grip on their national media, it declared Trump the winner for “overall achievement.”

Trump’s disrespect for the First Amendment is his most obvious offense, CPJ noted, and is so flagrant that leaders in other countries have adopted his “fake news” term for unflattering coverage.

In addition, “under Trump’s administration, the Department of Justice has failed to commit to guidelines intended to protect journalists’ sources, and the State Department has proposed to cut funding for international organizations that help buttress international norms in support of free expression,” CPJ said. “As Trump and other Western powers fail to pressure the world’s most repressive leaders into improving the climate for press freedom, the number of journalists in prison globally is at a record high.”


Trump was named runner-up in CPJ’s “Most Thin-Skinned” category, losing to Erdoğan. Trump’s attacks on the media are vicious and frequent, and he has responded to criticism by threatening lawsuits and the removal of broadcast licenses.

“CPJ research shows that when public figures and political leaders lob insults at the media, they encourage self-censorship and expose journalists to unnecessary risk,” the organization said.

Trump’s latest media attacks have focused on journalist Michael Wolff, whose new book Fire and Fury has sent the president and his administration into a tailspin. Though Trump has frequently denigrated CNN, he had adviser Stephen Miller appear on the network’s “State of the Union” broadcast Sunday in an attempt to defend Trump in the face of the book.

Miller was escorted off set after host Jake Tapper cut short the disastrous interview. “I think I have wasted enough of my viewers’ time,” Tapper told Miller. Trump, meanwhile, contended that Tapper “got destroyed” in the interview.

Trump tweeted that he will present his supposed media awards, which he renamed the “Fake News Awards,” on Jan. 17.

Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/09/18 01:42 PM

HuffPost
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Trump spiritual advisor wants you to send her up to 1 month's pay or face 'consequences'
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/09/18 01:52 PM

LOL, well if she's clairvoyant, her gift should tell her that no funds are headed in her direction.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/09/18 07:07 PM

You don't need to be a psychologist or a psychiatrist to know Trump has some sort of mental problem. It should be obvious to all by this time. The evidence increases with each passing day.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/09/politics/donald-trump-immigration-contradictions/index.html

Trump contradicts self repeatedly in immigration meeting

By Tal Kopan, CNN Updated 6:32 PM ET, Tue January 9, 2018

President Donald Trump appeared to contradict himself multiple times in a meeting on immigration with a bipartisan group of lawmakers Tuesday -- a reflection of growing frustration from Capitol Hill about the lack of direction from the White House on the issue.

The President at times suggested he would be looking to sign everything from a stand-alone fix for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program -- set to expire in March -- to comprehensive immigration reform, often appearing to being guided by lawmakers in the room to modify his positions.

The comments came during a nearly hour-long conversation between the roughly two dozen lawmakers, the President and White House staff that the press was allowed to record -- a window into the difficult negotiations that still surround the issue of replacing DACA, which protected young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as children from deportation, and border security.

At the end of the session, Trump suggested that ultimately, he would sign whatever he was presented with.

"I think my positions are going to be what the people in this room come up with," Trump said. "If they come to me with things I'm not in love with, I'm going to do it. Because I respect them."

Sens. Jeff Flake and James Lankford after the meeting both said the meeting was surprisingly helpful and they appreciated the President adding some clarity to the discussions, while noting hammering out the details remains to be worked out.

Lankford acknowledged that the meeting got "confusing," saying though Trump at the beginning defined "DACA" as a deal that included DACA plus border security and two other areas of reform, it was unclear during some parts of the meeting.
"It got confusing at times, in fact he said later, 'I just want a clean DACA and we'll do a comprehensive later,' and some of us said, 'Whoa, what do you mean by that?' And he came back to those four items," the Oklahoma Republican told reporters afterward.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/09/18 07:22 PM

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/09/trump-immigration-dreamers-congress-330981

Dreamer talks still jumbled after Trump’s freewheeling summit

Lawmakers were divided over whether a meeting at the White House had narrowed immigration negotiations.

By SEUNG MIN KIM, HEATHER CAYGLE, TED HESSON and RACHAEL BADE

01/09/2018 08:03 PM EST

President Donald Trump’s freewheeling, televised — and, at times, incoherent — immigration meeting with lawmakers Tuesday accomplished one thing at least, according to attendees: They agreed on what they would try to agree on.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/10/18 02:02 AM

Trump probably approves of Russian immigrants?

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NBC News
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A growing number of Russians are coming to the U.S. to give birth. These kids will have the right to live and work here, receive social services and, when they turn 21, will have the right to sponsor their parents for an American Green Card. Read more: http://nbcnews.to/2qKRueN
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/10/18 06:51 AM

https://www.thedailybeast.com/democratic...europe?ref=home

Russian meddling in Western democracies throughout Europe is worsening, a new 200-page report released Wednesday by Sen. Ben Cardin (D-MD) warns. The report is the first of its kind from Congress, and it details Russian attempts to undermine governments in 19 European nations following alleged Kremlin interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

“Never before has a U.S. president so clearly ignored such a grave and growing threat to U.S. national security,” the report says of President Trump, who has taken little action in the wake of such evidence.

The report was not signed by any Republicans. Cardin, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he commissioned the paper so that American citizens can view for themselves the “true scope and scale” of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s work to undermine democracy globally.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/13/18 04:38 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thanks-no-tha...-142638563.html

OSLO (Reuters) - Many Norwegians rejected on Friday a suggestion by U.S. President Donald Trump that they would be more welcome to move to the United States than immigrants from "shithole countries" such as Haiti or African nations.

The Nordic country, one of the richest in the world by GDP per capita, was last year named the happiest nation on the planet and is known for a cradle-to-grave welfare state funded in part by large reserves of oil and natural gas.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/13/18 10:50 AM

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/car...her-job-n836261

INDIANAPOLIS — It was raining in Indiana's capital city on the day Renee Elliott and millions of other blue collar Americans stunned the world by helping to elect a Manhattan real estate mogul the 45th president of the United States.

But all Elliott saw that day was sunshine.

As she waited patiently in line to cast her vote, Elliott said she was buoyed by the belief that Donald Trump would make good on his campaign pledge and prevent her job at the Carrier plant — the job that she said allowed her to escape an abusive marriage and live a modest but comfortable life — from being sent to Mexico.

Now, very soon, Elliott will be standing in another line — the unemployment line.

Elliott, 44, was one of the 215 workers at the Indianapolis plant who were given pink slips on Thursday. And to say she is disappointed by Trump would be an understatement.

“We all voted for him,” she said of herself and her Carrier co-workers. “We just thought he was going to protect our jobs. It sounded really good. And then, boom.”

Elliott doesn't know what she is going to do next. She has only a high school diploma to go along with the hairdresser license she earned before she got the job five years ago at Carrier, when she was studying to be a nurse.

“My five-year plan was to finish out nursing school and work on the line and take classes at night,” she said.

What Elliott does know is that it will be hard to find anything that will match the $18-an-hour she made as a press operator at Carrier — and that whatever savings she had were eaten up raising two now-grown kids. Her 73-year-old mother, who had also been living with her, has moved in with her brother, who still has a job at Carrier.

“Being a paycheck away from being homeless is terrifying,” she said.

Then there is the other psychic toll that Elliott is bracing for. That job was her life for five years. She fears she will never find the kind of camaraderie she found working at the plant.
"“Being a paycheck away from being homeless is terrifying.”"

“We weren’t just people who worked in a factory, we were a family,” she said. “Everyone would go to Sully’s or hang in the parking lot, and everyone will be playing dice or cards and drinking and talking about the day.”

Elliott’s fate was sealed long before she voted for Trump. The Carrier Company announced on Feb. 10, 2016, that it was closing its plants in Indianapolis and Huntington, Indiana, and moving the operations to Monterrey, Mexico.

It was during the first presidential debate with Hillary Clinton that Trump gave Elliott and her co-workers some hope that their lives and livelihood would be spared.

“We have to stop our companies from leaving the United States and, with it, firing all of their people,” Trump declared. “All you have to do is take a look at Carrier air-conditioning in Indianapolis. They left — fired 1,400 people. They’re going to Mexico.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/13/18 11:06 AM

Drain the swamp, hell Trump has turn the country into a Florida everglade containing every foul creature existing on this earth. As it was stated, the Republicans will pay dearly for protecting this vile man and the party while leading the citizens of this country and the world into devastation like none seen in the last 80 years.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/13/18 02:24 PM


Keith Olbermann
‏Verified account @KeithOlbermann
6h6 hours ago

No, you’re not getting past the “Shithole” remark.

Ever.

You racist coward.

Your presidency is over. Have a grown-up explain it to you.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/13/18 04:12 PM

AlterNet

Donald Trump is not the first mediocre president of the United States, Krugman reminds weary Americans in his Tuesday column. The problem, however, is not only that Trump feels the need to refer to himself as a "very stable genius," but that the president lacks two of the key factors that prevented the previous generations of mediocre men from laying waste to our democracy: first-rate advisers and a functioning system of checks and balances. Congress and the Supreme Court have historically been safety valves protecting the country from the president's worst impulses. Unfortunately, Krugman writes, "under the Very Stable Genius in Chief, the old rules no longer apply."

Ronald Reagan's official Alzheimer's diagnosis came five years after he left office, but the disease may have taken hold during his second term. It's an alarming thought, but Krugman notes, "with James Baker running Treasury and George Shultz running State, one didn’t have to worry about whether qualified people were making the big decisions." Also, he continues, "while we’ve probably had chief executives who longed to jail their critics or enrich themselves while in office, none of them dared act on those desires."

Under Trump, this may no longer be true. Just look at the people he brought into the White House with him. Even though the likes of now-indicted former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn are gone, we're still left with Steven Mnuchin, the thought of whom, Krugman believes, "has Hamilton rolling over in his grave." And that's only one of the higher-profile appointments. In a particularly chilling reminder of what we're dealing with, Krugman writes:
Posted by: Top Dog

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/13/18 05:54 PM

Fortunately Trump was golfing during the Hawaii false alarm.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/14/18 04:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Fortunately Trump was golfing during the Hawaii false alarm.
If we put him on a permanent golf vacation we would be better off. It is amazing how much he criticized Obama for golfing a fraction of what he is doing.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: Draining the swamp - 01/14/18 01:42 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...ssaging-n837516

WASHINGTON — Last summer, President Donald Trump publicly pinned much of the blame for his administration’s woes on its communications efforts.

The White House and his broader administration could do better at communicating his agenda in one unified voice, he conceded in a Fox News interview, giving himself a “C or a C plus” on messaging.

But Trump’s leaked remarks during an immigration meeting Thursday calling Africa a bunch of “shithole countries,” coupled with his contradictory tweets that same day about a House bill authorizing foreign surveillance on U.S. soil, underscored his administration’s continued struggle with public messaging nearly one year into his presidency.

In using Twitter as a main vehicle for communicating — often unsupervised and free from the protocol that typically goes into official statements — Trump frequently undermines his staffers, contradicts their public statements and sends heated tweets that often derail efforts to stay on message.

Trump defends his use of Twitter, saying that it offers him a chance to communicate directly with the American people in an open and honest way. But the president, who often takes his cues from cable news — he frequently tags Fox News to his tweets — or from the last adviser to brief him, has proven that in many cases, his views are flexible and subject to influence.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/14/18 04:34 PM

FLAKE 2020!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...-speech-n837556

WASHINGTON — Sen. Jeff Flake is planning to slam President Donald Trump's attacks on the press on the Senate floor this week in a speech that will compare the president's use of the term "enemy of the people" to describe the media to Soviet dictator Josef Stalin.

"When a figure in power reflexively calls any press that doesn't suit him ‘fake news,’ it is that person who should be the figure of suspicion, not the press," Flake, R-Ariz., will say, according to excerpts of the speech provided to NBC News.

Trump called the media the "enemy of the people" in a February tweet. "The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!" the president wrote on Twitter.

"Mr. President, it is a testament to the condition of our democracy that our own president uses words infamously spoken by Josef Stalin to describe his enemies," Flake plans to say in the Senate remarks.

"It bears noting that so fraught with malice was the phrase 'enemy of the people,' that even (later Soviet leader) Nikita Khrushchev forbad its use, telling the Soviet Communist Party that the phrase had been introduced by Stalin to for the purpose of 'annihilating such individuals' who disagreed with the supreme leader," Flake will say.

"This alone should be a source of great shame for us in this body, especially those of us in the president's party. For they are shameful and repulsive statements."

The speech from one of Trump's fiercest Republican critics comes as the president has promoted his "Fake News Awards" on Twitter, saying that the awards, expected to be on Wednesday, will go to "the most corrupt & biased of the Mainstream Media."

Since the 2016 election, Flake has emerged as a sharp critic of Trump, writing a book challenging the president earlier this year.

Flake, who is not running for re-election, explained his rationale for the upcoming Senate speech in an interview with NBC News' Kasie Hunt for Sunday night's "Kasie DC" on MSNBC, urging fellow GOP lawmakers to resist the temptation to "retreat into camps" when dealing with Trump.

"What I'm trying to do with this speech is basically trying to nudge the president back where I think that we, as elected officials, ought to be. And I think that that's a role that I should have as a member of the Senate," Flake told Hunt in the interview.

"We have a balance of power, separated powers here. We shouldn't all be afraid to criticize the president when we think he's wrong," he added.

In the Senate speech, Flake plans to label Trump's attacks on the press as "unprecedented" and "unwarranted."

"2017 was a year which saw the truth — objective, empirical, evidence-based truth — more battered and abused than any other time in the history of our country, at the hands of the most powerful figure in our government," Flake will say, according to the excerpts.

In an interview with Hunt, Flake reiterated his opposition to labeling the media the "enemy of the people."

"I don't think that we should be using the phrase that's been rejected as too loaded by a Soviet dictator," Flake said.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/14/18 07:18 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/analysis-...ory?id=52339439

Republican strategists have turned decidedly pessimistic about their prospects for the 2018 midterm elections.

Prominent Republicans are now saying privately that Democrats are virtually certain to win control of the House of Representatives.

As one senior Republican on Capitol Hill told ABC News, “If the election were held today, the House would be gone. Fortunately, the election is not today.”

Another prominent Republican strategist working on the midterm elections went further, telling ABC News point-blank that Republicans will lose the House and that this prospect unlikely to change.

“The only question is whether Democrats win narrowly by picking up 25 seats or whether it is a blowout of more than 35 seats,” the strategist told me.

Allies of President Donald Trump are convinced the president will quickly face impeachment hearings if Democrats take control of the House.

One Republican close to Trump predicted that not only will there be impeachment hearings but that the prospects for the president would be grim.

“Consider what happened with Bill Clinton,” the Trump ally said. “Clinton was disciplined; he had a strategy and still he was impeached.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/15/18 07:25 AM

George Takei
‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei
12h12 hours ago

Kinda miss the days when there weren’t Nazis in the streets, North Korean ballistic missile alerts, and Russians crawling all over a shithole presidency.
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Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/16/18 09:00 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-mocked-g...topstories.html

President Donald Trump found himself in the hot seat on Monday after he decided to go golfing on Martin Luther King Jr. Day, breaking with a years-long tradition set by previous presidents who commemorated the holiday by performing civic duties.

The late-night shows found the topic rich for attack on Monday night.

"In the past, Presidents Obama and Bush did volunteer work on this day to honor Dr. King. President Trump today played golf to honor him," Jimmy Kimmel said Monday on "Live." "He made his 95th visit since becoming president to one of the golf courses he owns: the Trump International Golf Club in Palm Beach. Just as Dr. King would have wanted, which is especially glaring considering the fact people have been calling Trump a racist all weekend."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/18/18 01:01 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/politics/trump-first-year-cbs-npr-marist-polls/index.html

Two new polls released Thursday show President Donald Trump's approval rating at 37% nearly one year into his presidency.

In a CBS News poll, Trump stands at 37% approval to 58% disapproval, while an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll finds him at 37% approval with 53% disapproval and 10% unsure.

According to the NPR/PBS/Marist poll, 53% of Americans see Trump's first year as a failure, and 61% believed he is doing more to divide the country than unite it.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/19/18 12:26 AM

http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/stormy-daniels-ivanka-trump-151756

Do you ever hear anything so creepy that you just want to peel your own skin off? Well, this is one of those times. Adult film star Stormy Daniels opened about her 2006 affair with President Donald Trump to In Touch in 2011 (before she was allegedly paid $130,000 to stay quiet), and while the bombshell interview is chock full of shocking details, we can't help but cling to the comparison Trump drew between Stormy and his daughter Ivanka.

Stormy revealed that she and Trump met up several times in the years following their original sexual encounter, and that she found him "pretty fascinating." Some of the "really good banter" they enjoyed even involved his children, including this creepy tidbit: "He once told me that I was someone to be reckoned with, beautiful and smart just like his daughter."

First of all, comparing the woman you're sleeping with to your child is gross on its own, but how skeeved out must Ivanka feel to hear her own dad drawing parallels between her and an XXX actress? Yikes.

Of course, this is far from the first time Trump has weirded out America with the way he treats his daughter. We all remember that hip caress at the Republican National Convention in 2016. Then there's this gem of a quote from The View in 2006: “Ivanka posing for Playboy would be really disappointing… not really. But it would depend on what was inside the magazine…I don’t think Ivanka would [do a nude shoot] inside the magazine, Although she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” So yeah, somehow in this crazy world we live in, comparing his daughter to his porn star mistress isn't the creepiest thing he's ever said.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/19/18 05:29 AM

Can you believe it? Trump criticized Obama for playing golf and Trump can't even delay a golf trip to keep the government running? If he was CEO of a private company the board of directors would fire him in an instant.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/politics/trump-shutdown-mar-a-lago/index.html

President Donald Trump is scheduled to depart Washington and head to his Florida resort hours before the deadline to avoid a government shutdown Friday at midnight.
The President is planning to spend the weekend at Mar-a-Lago for the one-year anniversary of his inauguration. However, his trip comes amid the looming shutdown deadline as Congress battles against the clock to keep the government open.

"We believe that the bill will pass and the President will have an opportunity to sign it," White House deputy press secretary Raj Shah told reporters Thursday. "I mean, some of the timing and logistics of travel will have to reflect the reality, but we expect it to be passed. And we expect the President to be able to travel to Florida this weekend."

Trump is scheduled to depart Washington in the 4 p.m. hour Friday. Vice President Mike Pence is also scheduled to leave Washington Friday evening, on his three-country swing to the Middle East. Pence will go to Egypt, Israel and Jordan.

CNN's Jim Acosta reported Thursday that White House staffers were mulling the idea that Trump could use Twitter later to signal that the federal government will not close down.
The idea is that if the Senate passes the continuing resolution to keep the government open Friday, the President could then tweet that he will sign the continuing resolution. That would be an indication the government is open, even if he signs the actual bill at a later time.

The House voted Thursday night to keep the government open through mid-February and now the matter moves to the Senate.
If the Senate passes the legislation, it would then be sent to Trump's desk for him to sign.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/19/18 01:13 PM


https://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/70115

Republican sources within the beleaguered House of Representatives and Senate say partisan divides and personal dislikes reached “breaking point” this past week and blame the dishonest president from their own party for most of the mess.

“I’m supposed to work with the son-of-a-bitch because he’s the leader of the party but I can’t stand him,” says a GOP member. “I despise him.”

The opinion of that one Republican is becoming the norm in Congress. In a private conversation within the GOP cloakroom this week, another Republican said he missed working with Barack Obama.

“We disagreed on most things but he is a better man,” he said. More than one Republican nodded quietly in agreement.

Several refer to Trump as the “Tasmanian Devil,” the cartoon whirling dervish of Warner Brothers cartoons.

Republicans say they can no longer trust Trump on any deals because he changes his mind and goes back on his word too often.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson calls Trump a moron. White House chief of staff John Kelly told members of Congress the president is “uninformed.” Others call him a “clown.”

“He is destroying the Republican Party and our nation,” says another to his colleagues.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/20/18 09:16 AM

WASHINGTON - One year ago, Donald Trump stood at the U.S. Capitol and took his place as the nation’s 45th president. He promised to be a man of action, taking charge of a government for the people and away from the establishment.

“We will face challenges. We will confront hardships. But we will get the job done,” Trump promised.

“We will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action; constantly complaining but never doing anything about it,” he added. “The time for empty talk is over.”

But exactly a year later, on the anniversary of Trump’s big day, the federal government is shut down.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/21/18 05:23 AM

David Axelrod
‏Verified account @davidaxelrod
17h17 hours ago

Watching the sea of humanity descending on downtown Chicago today, it occurred to me that one undeniable achievement of @realDonaldTrump is that he has ignited a determined movement that is likely to be the political story of 2018.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/21/18 05:26 AM

Chris Hayes
‏Verified account @chrislhayes
15h15 hours ago

Chris Hayes Retweeted Jennifer Jacobs

As I keep saying: the origin of all of this is the president’s signature campaign promise: We’re gonna build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it. We’re all in this predicament because it was never possible, and now the entire government has to cover for it.

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Mick Mulvaney blasted Chuck Schumer for mischaracterizing meeting with Trump yesterday, saying Schumer "had the gall" to look at president and say I'm giving everything you want for the wall, when in fact he wasn't offering to fully pay for it.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/21/18 05:28 AM

Fewer people want to visit the land of Trump.

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CNN
‏Verified account @CNN
57m57 minutes ago

America is missing out on a tourism boom. International visitor numbers surged 7% last year, but interest in US travel has slumped significantly, down about 4% in 2017
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/21/18 05:30 AM

OMG. I shake my head in amazement.

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Eric Trump said Saturday the government shutdown is a "good thing for us" politically and tried to blame the Democrats for trying "to stop [President Trump's] momentum." Mr. Trump's younger son appeared on Fox News' "Justice with Judge Jeanine" with Jeanine Pirro.

"My father has had incredible momentum," Eric Trump said. "He's gotten more done in one year than arguably any president in history. And so, how do they divert from that message? I mean, how do they save their own party when they don't have any leadership, they don't have any, you know, good candidates of their own? How do they do that?"

Eric Trump blamed Democrats for the government shutdown, saying the Democrats are "absolutely terrified" that his father's "working like no one has ever worked before to bring back this country, and, you know, fulfill his promise to make America great again."

Republicans have been trying to blame the Democrats for the shutdown, labeling it the "Schumer shutdown" after Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. But Democrats have cast it as the "Trump Shutdown."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/23/18 11:41 AM

Just another Trump lie.

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Chris Hayes Retweeted
Jackie Calmes
‏ @jackiekcalmes
13h13 hours ago

Jackie Calmes Retweeted Donald J. Trump

It's been nearly a year since Trump at news conference told DACA beneficiaries not to worry--“We’re going to show great heart” toward "these incredible kids."
7 months later he ordered an end to the program by March & set demands as his price for backing an alternative.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/23/18 11:43 AM

Chris Hayes Retweeted
David S. Joachim
‏Verified account @davidjoachim
6h6 hours ago

Trump pledged to donate the profits from any foreign governments staying in his namesake hotels to the U.S. Treasury. To date, no such payments to the Treasury have been made, @ap reports
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/24/18 10:02 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/24/politics/mueller-investigation-analysis/index.html

Day of bombshells takes Mueller probe to critical point

Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN

Updated 8:12 AM ET, Wed January 24, 2018
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/24/18 01:38 PM

Michael Steele, the former chair of the Republican National Committee, has just about had it with evangelical Christian leaders who support President Donald Trump no matter what.

On Monday, Tony Perkins, head of the conservative Christian nonprofit Family Research Council, said Trump gets “a mulligan” or “do-over” over allegations that he paid porn star Stormy Daniels to keep quiet over their reported affair.

Steele wasn’t having it.

“I have a very simple admonition at this point,” Steele said on “Hardball” on MSNBC. “Just shut the hell up and don’t ever preach to me about anything ever again. I don’t want to hear it.”

Steele added:

“After telling me how to live my life, who to love, what to believe, what not to believe, what to do and what not to do and now you sit back and the prostitutes don’t matter? The grabbing the you-know-what doesn’t matter? The outright behavior and lies don’t matter? Just shut up.”
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/24/18 01:44 PM

Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/24/18 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Michael Steele, the former chair of the Republican National Committee, has just about had it with evangelical Christian leaders who support President Donald Trump no matter what.

On Monday, Tony Perkins, head of the conservative Christian nonprofit Family Research Council, said Trump gets “a mulligan” or “do-over” over allegations that he paid porn star Stormy Daniels to keep quiet over their reported affair.

Steele wasn’t having it.

“I have a very simple admonition at this point,” Steele said on “Hardball” on MSNBC. “Just shut the hell up and don’t ever preach to me about anything ever again. I don’t want to hear it.”

Steele added:

“After telling me how to live my life, who to love, what to believe, what not to believe, what to do and what not to do and now you sit back and the prostitutes don’t matter? The grabbing the you-know-what doesn’t matter? The outright behavior and lies don’t matter? Just shut up.”



Great article, did you note your "troll" who seems to respond in comic form? The laughable aspect of Cwjga's position in his 8 years of criticism of Obama, who amazingly avoided scandals, stayed faithful to Michelle and pulled a country out of a great depression but somehow think that posting pro Trump articles actually make the POTUS an honest and dependable man. Please let him down easy when you state that his attempts are consistent but futile in every form of the word. LOL

Ask cwjga 5 honest questions in regard to Trump's honesty, ethics and loyalty to his country and I'll guaranteed 5 lies in rapid succession.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/24/18 02:17 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Michael Steele, the former chair of the Republican National Committee, has just about had it with evangelical Christian leaders who support President Donald Trump no matter what.
More and more prominent Republicans who are not in congress are speaking out against Trump and his supporters all the time.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/24/18 02:46 PM

Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/24/18 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Michael Steele, the former chair of the Republican National Committee, has just about had it with evangelical Christian leaders who support President Donald Trump no matter what.
More and more prominent Republicans who are not in congress are speaking out against Trump and his supporters all the time.
Three cheers for this Republican.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/24/18 07:30 PM

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jimmy-kimmel-melania-skipped-davos-because-she-hates-trump?ref=home

Could it be a coincidence that first lady Melania Trump canceled her plans to accompany the president on his trip to the World Economic Forum in Davos this week just days after news broke that her husband had an affair with porn star Stormy Daniels shortly after their son Barron was born?

Jimmy Kimmel doesn’t think so.

After reminding viewers about that “saga,” Kimmel noted that “all of a sudden” Melania Trump decided not to join her husband in Switzerland. “According to her director of communications, the first lady is skipping her trip due to ‘scheduling and logistical issues,’” the host said. “And because she hates him.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/26/18 03:15 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/politics/trump-mueller-fired-analysis/index.html

5 things Trump's attempted firing of Robert Mueller teaches us

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large

1. Trump has a tin ear

2. Trump is paranoid

3. Trump can be talked down

4. Trump's top aides have no real idea what's going on

5. Trump's lawyers are telling him the investigation is almost over to keep him from firing Mueller

Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/26/18 11:44 AM

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/...216532?lo=ap_a1

It’s Now Likely Mueller Thinks Trump Obstructed Justice

Thursday’s bombshell news points toward one conclusion: The special counsel has the goods on the president.

By RENATO MARIOTTI January 26, 2018
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/26/18 12:48 PM

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-booed-at-davos-for-criticizing-vicious-fake-media?ref=home

President Trump was reportedly booed by the crowd at the World Economic Forum in Davos when he tried to slam the “vicious” and “fake” media.

“As a businessman I was always treated really well by the press,” Trump said after his prepared speech. “It wasn’t until I became a politician that I realized how nasty, how mean, how vicious and how fake the press can be.” The real-estate-mogul-turned-politician received a polite applause after his prepared remarks but then began to question why he—the leader of the free world— receives so much media attention.

Once he used the word “fake,” he appeared to lose the crowd entirely.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/27/18 05:42 AM

I thought Trump was going to end all this? He has no idea what to do about it.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/27/asia/afghanistan-kabul-blast-intl/index.html?adkey=bn

An attacker driving an ambulance packed with explosives detonated them in Kabul on Saturday, leaving 40 people dead and 140 others injured, Afghan officials said.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/27/18 04:37 PM

https://secondnexus.com/news/report-down...1c71b876dfcb7a1

REPORT: Downturn in US Tourism Under Trump Has Cost $4.6 Billion & 40,000 Jobs
Being despised around the world has a cost.


by Amelia Mavis Christnot January 24, 2018
Post Views: 13,911

Adam Sacks, the president of Tourism Economics, posited a theory for the decline.

It’s not a reach to say the rhetoric and policies of this administration are affecting sentiment around the world, creating antipathy toward the U.S. and affecting travel behavior.”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/28/18 06:00 AM


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Anne_MacLeod_Trump

Donald, your Mom was an illegal immigrant but you in the same breath, you called others "sh%%hole" people.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/30/18 09:12 AM

Putin is blackmailing Trump. How can anyone come to any other conclusion?

https://secondnexus.com/news/politics/tr...e24f1904b59aaad

Donald Trump Refuses to Impose New Sanctions on Russia Despite Congressional Mandate
The administration once again defies Congress.


Sarah Kendzior
✔
@sarahkendzior

Sanctions on Russia were voted on by a bipartisan Senate, 98-2. The president is refusing to enact them.

The FBI and DOJ -- checks on exec power -- are being "investigated" by a partisan body that obsequiously praises the president on command.
7:28 PM - Jan 29, 2018
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/30/18 09:18 AM

CNN
‏Verified account @CNN
1h1 hour ago

Sen. Susan Collins says it's perplexing that the White House has not imposed new sanctions on Russia after 98 of 100 senators voted for the sanctions. http://cnn.it/2BEgTY3
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/30/18 12:29 PM

Interesting. Politics makes such strange bedfellows indeed.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/chris-christie-returns-to-tv-to-warn-donald-trump-russia

Chris Christie Returns to TV to Warn Donald Trump

The Trump campaign’s most tragic coal-mine canary is back.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/31/18 12:22 PM

Wow. Another one bites the dust.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/trey-gowdy-retiring/index.html

Rep. Trey Gowdy not seeking re-election

By Jeremy Herb, CNN
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/31/18 12:33 PM

Yes indeed, if you already know that your chances are very remote in regard to re election, don't embarrass yourself by staying in the race, thus the case for many of the GOP in November.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/31/18 12:59 PM

An ominous cloud seems to follow the GOP as of late.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/train-carrying-members-congress-involved-accident/story?id=52741522


https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/9...ld-Trump-Nasdaq

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/nunes-memo-law-enforcement/index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/29/republicans-need-good-economy-to-overshadow-trumps-low-approval.html
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/31/18 01:17 PM

The Republicans are starting to remind me of the Keystone Cops. grin

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House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on Tuesday urged his colleagues not to use the memo to undermine the Mueller probe, calling it “a completely separate matter.” His statement was a bit late -- Republicans and Fox News anchors had been using the mysterious memo to suggest it was time to fire Mueller or Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who has oversight of the special counsel investigation.



Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 01/31/18 07:20 PM

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...dal/1084809001/

House Republicans are retiring in droves. What's pushing them out?
Deirdre Shesgreen, USA TODAY

On Wednesday, Rep. Trey Gowdy—chairman of the powerful House Oversight Committee—became the third GOP lawmaker in just the last week to announce plans to leave Congress at the end of this term.

The party that controls the White House generally loses seats in the midterm elections, and several nonpartisan political analysts believe that President Trump’s dismal approval ratings will be a significant added drag on Republican congressional candidates.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/01/18 12:16 PM

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/01/obamacare-repeal-republican-status-381470

Republicans give up on Obamacare repeal

Most GOP lawmakers aren’t interested in another failed effort to gut the health law in an election year.

By BURGESS EVERETT

02/01/2018 11:45 AM EST
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/01/18 04:35 PM

George Takei
‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei
7h7 hours ago

Getting warmer.

Corallo to Testify That Hope Hicks Said Russian Meeting E-Mails ‘Will Never Get Out’
The truth is slowly dripping out.

https://secondnexus.com/news/mark-corall...e24f1904b59aaad

Mark Corallo plans to speak to Robert Mueller’s team investigating possible Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and collusion by President Donald Trump and members of his family and staff. Corallo resigned as spokesman for Trump’s legal team in July 2017 after only 2 months in the position.

At the time, people cited infighting on the Trump legal team for his abrupt departure. However Michael Wolff’s book, Fire and Fury, suggested the resignation related to concerns of potential obstruction of justice by Trump and other members of his staff.

Everything centers around the answer to a 2017 request for information from the New York Times to the Trump administration regarding a meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and Russian officials at Trump Tower during the 2016 presidential campaign.

The response, crafted in June 2017 by President Trump aboard Air Force One via conference call with his son and other key advisers, contained false information. Russian e-mails exchanged with Trump Jr. prior to that Trump Tower meeting exposed the truth.

According to the New York Times, Corallo will tell Mueller he believed statements made by White House communications director Hope Hicks on a previously undisclosed conference call that included President Trump outlined a plan to obstruct justice. Hicks stated during the call that the so-called Russian e-mails, written by Trump Jr. before the Trump Tower meeting, “would never get out.”

Mark Corallo received a request from the Russia investigation last week and agreed to appear for an interview. When asked for corroboration on their story, Corallo “did not dispute” the Times account of his upcoming testimony.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/01/18 04:42 PM

NBC News
‏Verified account @NBCNews
7h7 hours ago

BREAKING: Minority Leader Pelosi calls on Speaker Ryan to remove Rep. Nunes as chair of the House Intel Committee
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/01/18 04:49 PM

CNN
‏Verified account @CNN
13m13 minutes ago

House Intelligence Committee member Eric Swalwell says the Nunes memo “seeks to torch every floor of the FBI building to protect the President” http://cnn.it/2GEX5XV
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/01/18 04:51 PM

Chris Hayes Retweeted
Chris Geidner
‏Verified account @chrisgeidner
34m34 minutes ago

Quite an interesting development here. Rick Gates' lawyers are moving to withdraw "immediately," given reasons the lawyers want to provide under seal.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/01/18 04:56 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/politics/t...emo0515PMVODtop

So passionate is Wray about not releasing the memo that White House officials are worried he may well quit if Trump gives Congress the OK to do so.

And yet, as Trump boarded Marine One to return to Washington from a speech at the Republican congressional retreat in West Virginia on Thursday afternoon, a senior administration official made clear that the President is expected to give Congress the go-ahead as soon as Friday morning.

"The president is OK with it," a senior administration official said. "I doubt there will be any redactions. It's in Congress' hands after that."
If you are surprised by that decision, you have been residing on another planet for the better part of the last three years.
If you have been paying attention since Trump announced his presidential bid in June 2015, you know that the President is actually a very simple person to understand. He views everything that comes across the transom through one lens: "How does this impact me?"

Sure, we all tend to think of how every situation impacts us. Self-interest is a very powerful motivator, after all.
But most people who get elected president tend to open their aperture when considering how to react to the million things that cross their desk every day. Among those broader concerns: 1) Is this true? 2) Is this in the best interest of the country? 3) Will this set any sort of dangerous precedent for future White Houses?

Trump, as he has shown any number of times as president (and as a candidate) is entirely unburdened by those sorts of concerns. To him, all decisions about what to do with a certain piece of information or how to react to a certain situation center around this basic question: Does this make me look good/smart? It's the logic that led candidate Trump to tweet this in the wake of the 2016 Pulse nightclub shooting that left 49 people dead: "What has happened in Orlando is just the beginning. Our leadership is weak and ineffective. I called it and asked for the ban. Must be tough."

It's same sort of thinking that led businessman Trump to create a fictional employee -- "John Miller" -- who, in the 1980s, would call the New York tabloids and brag on "Mr. Trump's" sexual virility and attractiveness to the opposite sex.
Trump doesn't think in terms of good/bad or true/false. He thinks in terms of advantage/disadvantage or, to put it in more Trumpian terms, winning/losing.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/01/18 05:00 PM

Chris Hayes Retweeted
Garance Franke-Ruta
‏Verified account @thegarance
1h1 hour ago

Israeli investigative reporter says Trump shared more information than has been publicly revealed with the Russians https://www.npr.org/2018/01/31/582099085...-assassinations
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/01/18 05:00 PM


George Takei
‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei
15m15 minutes ago

There is a direct relationship between the progress Robert Mueller is making in the Russia probe and the desperation of Republicans to try to muddy the waters on Trump's Russia connections.

And right now, they are desperate AF.
41 replies 319 retweets 1,115 likes
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/01/18 05:02 PM


CNN
‏Verified account @CNN
15m15 minutes ago

JUST IN: Attorneys for former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates are seeking to withdraw from the case, according to a new court filing http://cnn.it/2EuowTL
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 05:26 AM

http://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-m...t-1151781443974

Rubin: Trump will be on the “world’s dumbest criminal” list

Conservative columnist Jennifer Rubin blasts Trump amid new report that Mueller is zeroing in on a Trump Tower meeting “cover story”.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 07:25 AM

It sure is ugly, you would think Dem's would be happy that so many people are winning. Oh, that's right, their entire strategy is based on people losing.

Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 12:28 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
It sure is ugly, you would think Dem's would be happy that so many people are winning. Oh, that's right, their entire strategy is based on people losing.

WE APPEAR TO BE LOSING OUR DEMOCRACY. THAT IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHO WON THE LAST WORLD SERIES.

Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 01:21 PM

Nope you lost the vote. Democracy is stronger than ever, because the people are back in charge.

Go Trump.

You are the only ones in a bad mood. smile
Hard to be in a bad mood after I got my paycheck.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 04:51 PM

All the bonuses will buy less with inflation. I wonder how long it will take the workers to figure that out?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/02/monthly-jobs-numbers-january-2018-384979

The stock market took its steepest fall of Donald Trump's presidency Friday amid fears that the economy is overheating and his new Federal Reserve chief will face pressure to raise interest rates.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell by 665 points, or about 2.5 percent, after the Labor Department reported that the economy added 200,000 new jobs in January, up from 160,000 in December. Wages saw their biggest year-over-year increase since June 2009, rising by 2.9 percent over January 2017.

Trump crowed about the strong economy, tax cuts and wage growth during his State of the Union speech on Tuesday. But too much good news may lead to bad news for one of his favorite barometers of his presidency — the stock market.

Traders attributed Friday's market decline in part to to the wage data and all the bonuses flowing out after the tax cut plan, stoking fears of inflation. When Trump's new Fed chair, Jerome Powell, is sworn in on Monday, he could find himself leading the central bank in a fight against rising prices by raising interest rates more quickly than previously expected.

"People are obviously concerned that rates are going to go up faster and you are seeing that in the bond market," said Stephen Massocca of Wedbush Equity Management. "What people didn't really expect was all these employee bonuses injecting money directly into the economy and that could be inflationary."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 05:07 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Democracy is stronger than ever because the people are back in charge.
ROFLMAO How about all the fake news? Enemies of the people? Disgusting beyond belief, Trump can't fix that because he is the problem. Trump fights with the FBI. That is beyond appalling.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 05:54 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Hard to be in a bad mood after I got my paycheck.
You would sell your soul for a tax cut, wouldn't you? In fact, I think you just did.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-john-mccain-nunes-memo-175552422.html

In a statement shortly before the memo’s release, McCain didn’t pull any punches.

“In 2016, the Russian government engaged in an elaborate plot to interfere in an American election and undermine our democracy,” McCain said. “Russia employed the same tactics it has used to influence elections around the world, from France and Germany to Ukraine, Montenegro and beyond.”

McCain said Russia’s interference has, at best, sown political discord and succeeded in “dividing us from each other.” Attacking the intelligence community is not how to fix the discord, he said.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 06:12 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-gop-followed-trump-off-104522421.html

Why The GOP Has Followed Trump Off The Deep End

To further delude the base, Republicans resuscitated the hoary myth central to their donor-driven worldview: that tax cuts pay for themselves or, at least, offset much of their costs by stimulating economic growth. This GOP Tax Fairy has been thoroughly discredited by Republican economists and, more importantly, by economic history. No matter ― the legislation passed. Now the donors who finance Republican officeholders are bonded to the president who signed their dream bill into law.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 06:21 PM

CNN
‏Verified account @CNN
1h1 hour ago

Former CIA counterterrorism official Phil Mudd: The FBI people "are ticked" and they'll be saying of Trump, “You’ve been around for 13 months. We've been around since 1908. I know how this game is going to be played. We're going to win" http://cnn.it/2GEPZD3
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 06:22 PM

CBS News
‏Verified account @CBSNews
17m17 minutes ago

Release of once-classified memo is "unprecedented" and could have far-reaching effects in foreign policy, former CIA director Leon Panetta tells CBS News http://cbsn.ws/2BRtU0b
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 06:22 PM

Bloomberg
‏Verified account @business
1h1 hour ago

The fortunes of the world’s 500-richest people dropped by $68.5 billion Friday https://bloom.bg/2EaQypv
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 06:26 PM

CNN
‏Verified account @CNN
3h3 hours ago

"I think it's disgusting, I think it's pathetic. ... This is a fabricated, manufactured, hack partisan sideshow circus act in order to discredit the FBI," Ana Navarro says in reaction to the release of the Nunes memo http://cnn.it/2E0Bz28
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 06:28 PM

NN
‏Verified account @CNN
24m24 minutes ago

Republican Rep. Hurd, former CIA officer: ”I also don't believe there's anything in this Republican memo that's explosive" http://cnn.it/2FHjTVF
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/02/18 06:33 PM

CNN
‏Verified account @CNN
1h1 hour ago

Key points from the Nunes memo appeared to have been released to news outlets friendly to the White House before being widely available to other media organizations http://cnn.it/2nEs8L0
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 07:47 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Democracy is stronger than ever because the people are back in charge.
ROFLMAO How about all the fake news? Enemies of the people? Disgusting beyond belief, Trump can't fix that because he is the problem. Trump fights with the FBI. That is beyond appalling.



Not hard to believe that you are in favor of corruption in the FBI.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 07:51 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Democracy is stronger than ever because the people are back in charge.
ROFLMAO How about all the fake news? Enemies of the people? Disgusting beyond belief, Trump can't fix that because he is the problem. Trump fights with the FBI. That is beyond appalling.


Seems you are the one trying to sell fake news.
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 07:53 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Democracy is stronger than ever because the people are back in charge.
ROFLMAO How about all the fake news? Enemies of the people? Disgusting beyond belief, Trump can't fix that because he is the problem. Trump fights with the FBI. That is beyond appalling.


"The union is strong, because the people are strong." President Trump

Enemies of the people are the Dems. They made that clear by their reaction to the state of the Union. And their collusion.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 09:04 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Democracy is stronger than ever because the people are back in charge.
ROFLMAO How about all the fake news? Enemies of the people? Disgusting beyond belief, Trump can't fix that because he is the problem. Trump fights with the FBI. That is beyond appalling.
"The union is strong, because the people are strong." President Trump
Enemies of the people are the Dems. They made that clear by their reaction to the state of the Union. And their collusion.
What? Trump is the one with the collusion problem.

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Rep. Adam Schiff — the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee investigating contact between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin — said the evidence of coordination is "pretty damning" on CNN's "State of the Union."

"We have all of these facts in chronology, you'd have to believe that these were all isolated incidents, not connected to each other — just doesn't make rational sense ... We do know this: the Russians offered help, the campaign accepted help, the Russians gave help and the president made full use of that help. That is pretty damning, whether it is proof beyond a reasonable doubt of conspiracy or not."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 09:06 AM

Rep. Devin Nunes, who led the release of the memo, admitted to Fox News' Bret Baier that he hadn't read the FISA documents that made up the basis of the memo.

Why it matters: The memo is largely based on the argument that there were FISA abuses within the FBI, particularly relating to former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. As chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, some are criticizing Nunes for not reading these pertinent documents himself before releasing the memo.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 09:07 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Enemies of the people are the Dems. They made that clear by their reaction to the state of the Union.
The state of the Union is in the worse shape since Watergate. I thank them for their reaction.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

Trump is far worse than Nixonian

By Ruth Marcus
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 09:09 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

The Nunes memo wasn’t meant to win over everyone — just 34 senators

By Max Boot
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 09:12 AM

What a total idiot. Somebody explained it to Trump since he can't read.

Washington Post

Breaking: President claims GOP memo on FBI surveillance ‘totally vindicates “Trump”’ in Russia probe
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 09:23 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Democracy is stronger than ever because the people are back in charge.
ROFLMAO How about all the fake news? Enemies of the people? Disgusting beyond belief, Trump can't fix that because he is the problem. Trump fights with the FBI. That is beyond appalling.



Not hard to believe that you are in favor of corruption in the FBI.


I find it odd that you being a racist found yourself criticizing Black lives matter because they accused cops of being very corrupt, now what is it son, all cops are honest or are just a few dishonest? confused
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 09:27 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Democracy is stronger than ever because the people are back in charge.
ROFLMAO How about all the fake news? Enemies of the people? Disgusting beyond belief, Trump can't fix that because he is the problem. Trump fights with the FBI. That is beyond appalling.

Not hard to believe that you are in favor of corruption in the FBI.
I don't believe our FBI is corrupt. Trump and his buddy Putin believe that.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 09:30 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Democracy is stronger than ever because the people are back in charge.
ROFLMAO How about all the fake news? Enemies of the people? Disgusting beyond belief, Trump can't fix that because he is the problem. Trump fights with the FBI. That is beyond appalling.

Seems you are the one trying to sell fake news.


http://uproxx.com/news/steve-schmidt-trump-fox-news/

Republican Strategist Steve Schmidt Accuses Trump Of Declaring Fox News To Be ‘American State TV’

Donald Trump’s war with the media is nothing new. Even early into his presidential campaign, he made a habit out of threatening reporters who showed up to his rallies, and once elected he simply accused any news outlet that he disagreed with as being “fake news.” The president can barely last a day without lashing out against the media, so it was more or less business as usual when he tweeted on Monday morning, “We should have a contest as to which of the Networks, plus CNN and not including Fox, is the most dishonest, corrupt and/or distorted in its political coverage of your favorite President (me).”

“They are all bad,” he continued. “Winner to receive the FAKE NEWS TROPHY!” On MSNBC late Monday however, Brian Williams spoke with former Republican strategist Steve Schmidt, who warned of just how dangerous Trump’s allegations are. “Well he all but declared Fox News to be American state TV,” Schmidt said. “It’s extraordinary. Secondly, with regard to CNN international, with people who live in autocratic countries who live behind a veil of totalitarianism — CNN international, they thirst for that coverage because it’s a truth to them.”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 10:03 AM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Democracy is stronger than ever because the people are back in charge.
ROFLMAO How about all the fake news? Enemies of the people? Disgusting beyond belief, Trump can't fix that because he is the problem. Trump fights with the FBI. That is beyond appalling.


"The union is strong, because the people are strong." President Trump

Enemies of the people are the Dems. They made that clear by their reaction to the state of the Union. And their collusion.


Please in your own words, explain the terminology of the usage "union" and "people" because Webster dictionary and common logic dictates a bond or common thread that ties people together. We have a corrupt president that is very proficient at dividing people based on economics and color but as you state, all this is fake news. A smart person only need to look at the world surrounding us, Puerto Rico, Haiti, Africa, lack of healthcare for American people, ignoring the possibility that Russia is hacking our governmental infrastructure or election but someone as yourself deemed all the current actions unacceptable when the Obama administration were in control. Did you have a change of clarity or is this just another one of your hypocritical racist and hateful moment?

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/11/the-numb...arter-2017.html



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/14/opinion/trump-racist-shithole.html


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/201...water-tomorrow/
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 01:22 PM

Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 01:41 PM

What a joke the whole Republican party has become trying to save this president. They had the same problem with Nixon until they just couldn't support him any more.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/reporte...arty-law-order/

During a press conference about the House Intelligence Committee’s increasingly controversial memo, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) was subject to a harsh question from a reporter about the GOP’s criticism of the FBI and Justice Department.
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“Republicans are traditionally the party of law and order,” the reporter said. “We have an FBI director saying ‘please don’t release this memo, it is misleading and incomplete.’ He was appointed by a Republican president. Doesn’t that give you pause?”

“No,” Ryan responded, before launching into a description of the law under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Earlier in the press conference, Ryan had denied that the memo was an attempt to undermine the Russia investigation.

“This memo is not an indictment of the FBI, of the Department of Justice, it does not impugn the Mueller investigation or the Deputy Attorney General
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 02:32 PM

This is so sad and pathetic. Trump could yet destroy America.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don...kushpmg00000009

Josh Campbell, a former supervisory special agent who worked as an assistant for former FBI director James Comey, publicly announced his resignation in the New York Times on Friday. (Trump’s firing of Comey, who bucked entreaties to soft-pedal the Russia investigation, led to Mueller’s appointment.)

“After more than a decade of service, which included investigating terrorism, working to rescue kidnapping victims overseas and being special assistant to the director, I am reluctantly turning in my badge and leaving an organization I love,” Campbell wrote in the Times. “Why? So I can join the growing chorus of people who believe that the relentless attacks on the bureau undermine not just America’s premier law enforcement agency but also the nation’s security. My resignation is painful, but the alternative of remaining quiet while the bureau is tarnished for political gain is impossible.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/03/18 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: cwjga
Hard to be in a bad mood after I got my paycheck.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/03/politics/paul-ryan-tweet-tax-cut-backlash/index.html

Paul Ryan deletes tweet about tax cuts after Twitter backlash

House Speaker Paul Ryan deleted a tweet Saturday touting the GOP tax overhaul after critics called him out for appearing out of touch with the reality of low-income individuals' financial situations.

The tweet shared the story of a secretary who, according to a report by the Associated Press, was "pleasantly surprised her pay went up $1.50 a week."

"A secretary at a public high school in Lancaster, PA, said she was pleasantly surprised her pay went up $1.50 a week ... she said [that] will more than cover her Costco membership for the year," Ryan tweeted with a link to the full article.
A basic Costco membership costs $60 a year.

People, including several prominent Democrats, noted on social media that $1.50 per week is not a significant pay bump.

"Paul Ryan deleted his embarrassing tweet of a blatant admission because he and Republicans don't want you to know the truth: the #GOPTaxScam is a gift to corporate America and the top 1% at your expense," Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-California, tweeted. "He also doesn't want you to know he got $500.000.00 from the Koch family."

Remember, if you don't think benefits like an extra $1.50 a week and free Hostess snacks are good enough, you're the one who's out of touch," he added.
Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minnesota, also tweeted a link to the since-deleted Ryan tweet, writing: "Wells Fargo, fresh off of defrauding millions of Americans, gets $3.4 billion."

California Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom tweeted with a screen shot of Ryan's tweet: "Guess someone told Paul Ryan you shouldn't go around praising yourself for giving a working person an extra $1.50 a week — because he deleted this tweet."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/04/18 03:30 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

At FBI, anger and fear of lasting damage amid GOP attacks

Bureau officials say the accusations in the memo produced by House Republicans are inaccurate and corrode the agency’s ability to remain independent and do its job. “There’s a lot of anger.

The irony is it’s a conservative-leaning organization, and it’s being trashed by conservatives,” one law enforcement official said.

By Devlin Barrett and Matt Zapotosky
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/05/18 03:20 PM

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/05/investing/dow-jones-trump-stocks-markets/index.html?iid=EL

Market mayhem puts Trump in a tough spot

President Trump didn't just take credit for the booming stock market. He outright cheered it to go "up, up, and up."

But all of a sudden, the stock market that Trump attached himself to is in turmoil, putting the White House in a difficult spot. The Dow has plunged more than 2,100 points, or 8%, in just six trading days as investors fret over cracks emerging in the bond market.

That the administration felt the need to weigh in underlines the risk Trump took in becoming the cheerleader-in-chief.

Presidents don't typically comment on the Dow's day-to-day moves, in part because the market is notoriously fickle. Wall Street is always one mood swing away from turning a rally into a plunge. And taking so much credit for the good days makes it hard to distance yourself from the bad ones.

"It's a risky game to talk about the markets. But it seems like Trump is going to live or die by the stock market," said Greg Valliere, chief global strategist at Horizon Investments.

Trump has tweeted about the stock market dozens of times since his election, frequently bragging about the latest all-time highs on Wall Street.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/05/18 03:32 PM

Dow drops 1,500 points as new Fed chair sworn in
by MARTHA C. WHITE

The Dow closed down 1,175 points, as the market bet on more interest rate hikes, the same day that new Fed chair was sworn in.

The index had recovered after briefly dropping 1,500 points, the largest intraday drop in the Dow's history, to break below the psychologically important level of 25,000.

But the overall pullback was only 4.6 percent, not record-setting on a percentage-wise basis. The S&P 500 would have to drop 7 percent or more to trigger a halt in trading, and it would have to drop 10 percent or more to be considered a "correction."

Still the plunge had markets heading to their lowest close of the year and it followed a dip on Friday, which itself was the sixth-largest point drop in the index's history.

Monday's selling spree also occurred the same day that Jerome Powell, the new chairman of the Federal Reserve, which is in charge of setting the potentially higher interest rates that are driving the sell-off, was sworn in.

On Sunday the central bank’s departing leader sounded a note of caution on stock prices.

“It is a source of some concern that asset valuations are so high,” outgoing Fed chair Janet Yellen told CBS News on Sunday, highlighting price-earnings ratios in equities.


Now, as Powell takes the reins, he and the rest of the Fed Board of Governors will have to determine if that long-running trend is starting to reverse — and how to respond. The market continued its wild Friday dive into Monday with a roller-coaster ride that saw the Dow plunge 600 points by mid-afternoon.

“Everybody knew this was coming — stocks are close to record valuations and it was a matter of when it was going to happen, not if,” said Dan North, chief economist at Euler Hermes North America. “I would expect that at this point, it’s probably sentiment-driven and we’ll get a rebound,” he said.

Market observers debated whether this was reflective of a short-term breather for a meteorically rising market, or the harbinger of a more broad-based correction. The appearance of higher wage growth in Friday’s jobs report was good news from a Main Street economic growth standpoint, but it spooked Wall Street as investors pondered whether this would give the Fed more incentive to raise interest rates at a quicker pace.

Under Yellen, the Fed had set a course for three interest rate hikes in 2018. Economists debated whether this would be too much, or too little — a question with higher stakes in light of the market’s dramatic movements over the last two days.

“There’s a lingering fear of inflation at the Fed that may cause the Fed to tighten in anticipation of further improvement we might never see,” said Lindsey Piegza, chief economist and managing director at Stifel Fixed Income.

Piegza said an overly aggressive Fed risked blowing out rather than stoking the nation’s economy. “You’ve got a lot of volatility in the equities market. The big question is, ‘Why rush?’ “

While Yellen mentee Jerome Powell has a similar outlook as the former Fed chair, Piegza said the other members — and the three vacancies that President Donald Trump's administration has yet to fill — make monetary policy movements hard to predict. “There is no consensus among Fed officials,” she said. "We don’t know where the Fed is going from here… That certainly adds some increased volatility for market participants.”

“For stocks, two or three hikes — the market has been fine with that for a long time. It’s once you get north of there that I think is a headwind,” said Scott Wren, senior global equity strategist at the Wells Fargo Investment Institute.

Wren said he believed the chance for a fourth rate hike this year is slim, but pointed to Friday and Monday’s falloff as evidence that some consider it more likely. “I think the market is concerned and that’s part of the selloff — that they would do more than three,” he said.

One worry is the psychological impact a protracted market slide could have on consumer confidence. In reality, market fluctuations have little to do with Americans’ day-to-day finances — the majority don’t own stocks — but the halo effect of that growing wealth is very real, and a market rout could throw cold water on the consumer spending the economy needs.

“Yes, investors should be mentally prepared for more downside,” said Mitchell Goldberg, president of ClientFirst Strategy, although he added that he didn’t expect the major indices to fall more than another 1 to 3 percent in the near term.

Other experts said that the long bull market could leave stocks open for a more sizable setback. “Corrections of around 10 percent or so are really quite common,” said Martin Baily, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. “It wouldn’t be a surprise… particularly when the market has grown as strong as it has for as long as it has.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/05/18 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Dow drops 1,500 points as new Fed chair sworn in
by MARTHA C. WHITE

The Dow closed down 1,175 points, as the market bet on more interest rate hikes, the same day that new Fed chair was sworn in.
If the Dow doesn't come back Trump will say it is the fault of his new Fed chair and he will fire him. Nothing is ever Trumps fault. After all he is a genius.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/14/18 08:06 AM

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/...216975?lo=ap_f1

Trump Can Fire Mueller, But Not a Grand Jury

The president can’t shut down the Russia investigation, even if he gets rid of the special counsel.


By DAVID YASSKY and BENNETT L. GERSHMAN

February 14, 2018

To follow this train of suppositions to one possible conclusion, we can envision Trump demanding the firing of a prosecutor who is actually in the process of trying one or more of the president’s close associates, on facts that could constitute an impeachable offense.

Of course, Howell’s decisions would soon be appealed to the Supreme Court, as were Sirica’s. While many pundits accuse the court of politicization, we expect that in such an extraordinary situation, the Roberts court would act to protect the Constitution, just as the Burger court did in 1974. It would then be up to Trump to either submit to a Supreme Court ruling or precipitate a true moment of national crisis.

Elected officials, and citizens, should give thought to that scenario, among others, in preparing for the perilous months ahead.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/14/18 08:21 AM

Good reading Kyle, this entire debacle goes way beyond politics but centralizes more on the life of Donald J. Trump who's was born, nurtured and groomed for a lack of ethics, selfishness and uncaring mentality. What's really sad is the fact that Trump supporters have taken on the attribute of a failed narcissistic, failing to acknowledge their shortcomings, in particular, the fact that they elected and support a proven dishonest person not worthy of the title POTUS. It's so clear to most that this game of being your own person and not answering to anyone is dragging our country down the path of bankruptcy both financially and morally.

A side note, the Pennsylvania elementary school districts are not speaking of president Trump in any form or fashion but spoke admirably of the 44th POTUS for 8 years, what does that say about the negative impressions being levied on our future generation in regard to Trump?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/14/18 02:52 PM

Mr. "I can do everything better than Obama" fail once again to keep his promise of keeping our children safe. Praying for all victims.


https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/2018/0...arge/338311002/
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/14/18 06:46 PM

The newest hypocrisy coming from the White House, DACA people aren't the one killing our students in masses while the "enemy" lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and speaks lovingly of a Russian ruler.
Posted by: The Mechanic

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/14/18 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The newest hypocrisy coming from the White House, DACA people aren't the one killing our students in masses while the "enemy" lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and speaks lovingly of a Russian ruler.


Those killing our students aren't working middle class conservative NRA members.

Don't be mad at the Russian's for beating the democrats. Be mad at the democrats who colluded with the Russian's and who got beat like rented mules. I guess that would explain why the symbol of the democrats is a jackass.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/15/18 12:20 AM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The newest hypocrisy coming from the White House, DACA people aren't the one killing our students in masses while the "enemy" lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and speaks lovingly of a Russian ruler.

Those killing our students aren't working middle class conservative NRA members.

Don't be mad at the Russian's for beating the democrats. Be mad at the democrats who colluded with the Russian's and who got beat like rented mules. I guess that would explain why the symbol of the democrats is a jackass.

Unsupervised release program time again, eh, Mechanic? crazy
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/15/18 05:33 AM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The newest hypocrisy coming from the White House, DACA people aren't the one killing our students in masses while the "enemy" lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and speaks lovingly of a Russian ruler.


Those killing our students aren't working middle class conservative NRA members.

Don't be mad at the Russian's for beating the democrats. Be mad at the democrats who colluded with the Russian's and who got beat like rented mules. I guess that would explain why the symbol of the democrats is a jackass.



LOL, you've just admitted yourself that Trump didn't win by his own merit but needed Russian hacking to cheat. Good boy!!!!! laugh
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/15/18 05:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The newest hypocrisy coming from the White House, DACA people aren't the one killing our students in masses while the "enemy" lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and speaks lovingly of a Russian ruler.

Those killing our students aren't working middle class conservative NRA members.

Don't be mad at the Russian's for beating the democrats. Be mad at the democrats who colluded with the Russian's and who got beat like rented mules. I guess that would explain why the symbol of the democrats is a jackass.

Unsupervised release program[/size] time again, eh, Mechanic? crazy



Kudos on your comment Timbo, this fool's bragging rights are a simple DOW Jones while everything else is a total disgrace, from racism to a bloated and disastrous budget, his dysfunctions improves themselves in small increments such as ridding one's self of his/her own demons, in his case, thinking that Trump is a good president. whistle let's start with Trump's latest tweet in regard to 17 students being murdered adverse to coming on national TV to address the grieving families.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-response-florida-massacre-differs-obama-sandy-hook-025239974.html
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/15/18 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The newest hypocrisy coming from the White House, DACA people aren't the one killing our students in masses while the "enemy" lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and speaks lovingly of a Russian ruler.


Those killing our students aren't working middle class conservative NRA members.

Don't be mad at the Russian's for beating the democrats. Be mad at the democrats who colluded with the Russian's and who got beat like rented mules. I guess that would explain why the symbol of the democrats is a jackass.




It looks as if another "Jackass" is biting the dust

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/...x.html?adkey=bn
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/15/18 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
The newest hypocrisy coming from the White House, DACA people aren't the one killing our students in masses while the "enemy" lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and speaks lovingly of a Russian ruler.



https://nypost.com/2018/02/15/trump-repealed-rule-to-block-mentally-ill-people-from-buying-guns/
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/17/18 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The newest hypocrisy coming from the White House, DACA people aren't the one killing our students in masses while the "enemy" lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and speaks lovingly of a Russian ruler.


Those killing our students aren't working middle class conservative NRA members.

Don't be mad at the Russian's for beating the democrats. Be mad at the democrats who colluded with the Russian's and who got beat like rented mules. I guess that would explain why the symbol of the democrats is a jackass.



LOL, you've just admitted yourself that Trump didn't win by his own merit but needed Russian hacking to cheat. Good boy!!!!! laugh




whistle
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/18/18 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The newest hypocrisy coming from the White House, DACA people aren't the one killing our students in masses while the "enemy" lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and speaks lovingly of a Russian ruler.


Those killing our students aren't working middle class conservative NRA members.

Don't be mad at the Russian's for beating the democrats. Be mad at the democrats who colluded with the Russian's and who got beat like rented mules. I guess that would explain why the symbol of the democrats is a jackass.


grin
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/18/18 07:10 PM

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...nt-care/553667/


America Is Under Attack and the President Doesn't Care

Trump’s gravest responsibility is to defend the United States from foreign attack—and he’s done nothing to fulfill it.
Leah Millis / Reuters

David Frum 10:29 AM ET Politics
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/18/18 07:43 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/18/politics/gates-manafort-plea-deal/index.html

Former Trump presidential campaign aide Rick Gates has agreed to testify against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and will plead guilty to fraud related charges, according to the Los Angeles Times.

The Times reported Sunday a revised plea will be presented in federal court "within the next few days." CNN first reported last week that Gates was finalizing a plea deal and that he had been in plea negotiations with special counsel Robert Mueller's team for a month.

Gates can expect "a substantial reduction in his sentence," to likely about 18 months in prison if he cooperates with the investigation, according to the LA Times report. He is also likely going to have to forfeit any cash or valuables obtained through his alleged illegal activity.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/19/18 02:16 AM

CNN
&#8207;Verified account @CNN
6h6 hours ago

Billionaire Bill Gates says he should pay "significantly higher" taxes http://cnn.it/2EAYt0G
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/19/18 06:04 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...nt-care/553667/


America Is Under Attack and the President Doesn't Care

Trump’s gravest responsibility is to defend the United States from foreign attack—and he’s done nothing to fulfill it.
Leah Millis / Reuters

David Frum 10:29 AM ET Politics



He doesn't care, that was expressively clear since his election, starting the day of his inauguration when he debated over the crowd size. Now have observed his lies, infidelity, fraud, hate, racism (White Supremacists are good people) and all manners of vile acts such as paying for little female action while married and allowing men to beat their wives while defending them. When any of us support and defend such action, our own morality is questionable. Case in point, you say that you don't steal, kill or commit acts of crime but somehow in your own words, see no harm in other committing said acts,well, we have a few here on the forum that comes here several times a day defending Trump and mass murderers..once again by not acting on gun control....any questions? I don't have any whistle
Just one observation, when the hammer falls, it won't be a good day for him and further yet, Trump is very nervous as Gates and other become suddenly honest so they may reduce their sentences while he attempt to indict his former surrogates and call them all liars as well. This will one day be a very popular movie and documentary highlighting the administration that was suppose to "drain the swamp" instead we got the most dishonest in political history....hands down.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/19/18 08:49 AM

trea·son

noun
the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
"they were convicted of treason"
synonyms: treachery, disloyalty, betrayal, faithlessness; sedition, subversion, mutiny, rebellion; high treason, lèse-majesté; apostasy; literaryperfidy
"the treason of Benedict Arnold will be recounted for centuries"
the action of betraying someone or something.
plural noun: treasons
"doubt is the ultimate treason against faith"
synonyms: treachery, disloyalty, betrayal, faithlessness; More
historical
the crime of murdering someone to whom the murderer owed allegiance, such as a master or husband.
noun: petty treason; plural noun: petty treason


Hypocrisy at it's best, the Republicans attempted to impeach Clinton over a little "nooky" in the White House and talked of impeaching president Obama for being.......well they tried for 8 years to scarf up anything to no avail but now we have Trump, the silence is deafening.



http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/p...list=associated
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/19/18 11:19 AM

As former U.S. ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul told the New York Times, “America was attacked, and our commander in chief said nothing in response. He looks weak, not only in Moscow but throughout the world.” Bottom line: For a president who has seldom shied away from opportunities to lash out at adversaries and to trumpet the sovereignty of the United States, he’s been conspicuously silent in voicing anger at a foreign power’s attempts to meddle in American affairs. Instead, the president’s response has been all about the president.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/19/18 04:00 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/pr...rump-ncna849321

As Trump drags the country into a gutter of small-minded tweets, world leaders large and small feel increasingly emboldened to go their own ways. The U.S. needs to act in a way that demands respect, from allies and enemies alike. Yet the lack of decorum we have experienced over the past year sends a terrifying signal of disorder. It denotes a vacuum — a moral vacuum and a power vacuum — that other forces will try to fill.

Washington's Birthday matters now in a negative comparative sense: it reminds us of how thoroughly the American presidency has been debased. Yet it also reminds us of the Virginia boy who believed that outward behavior could point to inner virtue. Once Donald Trump has been swept from the stage it will be up to us to decide how to clean up the mess, and how to refashion the office that George Washington invented.

Russell Shorto is the author of "Revolution Song: A Story of American Freedom." He tweets at @RussellShorto.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/20/18 02:53 PM

I can't believe that Trump has the nerve to even say this! I can't believe that any sane American believes this! What is happening to our nation? It is very scary indeed.

http://time.com/5166652/trump-tweets-russia-obama/

President Trump Tweeted He's Been Tougher on Russia Than Obama. That's Not True
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/20/18 02:57 PM

What? Trump is the guy who said 3-5 million voted illegally! I shake my head in total amazement.

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In multiple tweets, Trump again argued that Democrats are using the “Russian excuse” because they lost the election, claimed that it would be impossible to rig U.S. elections and cast blame on the Obama Administration for multiple “failures” on Russia, among other things.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/21/18 06:01 AM

https://nypost.com/2018/02/20/trump-jr-likes-tweets-attacking-florida-massacre-survivor/

Our country is sinking to new lows in regard morality,ethics and compassion. White Conservatives criticized, Black Lives Matter and MeToo# movement but now are implying that school children facing daily threats in our school are being lead by anti gun radicals. Just when we think that they couldn't sink any further, they surprise us with new revelations of racism,hatred sexism and now this latest, going after school kids wanting a safer school environment.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/23/18 07:03 PM

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/2...-charges-423403

New indictments revealed against Manafort after Gates pleads guilty
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 02/24/18 10:30 AM

https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watc...c-1169306179644

Corruption, racism, lack of ethics, money over compassion, just the type of party running this country, any questions as to why things are in such an disarray?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/03/18 07:03 PM

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-dean-gates-trump_us_5a938492e4b03b55731d85ce

Watergate Figure John Dean Says Rick Gates’ Testimony Could Be The End Of The Trump Presidency

“Increasingly it appears Manafort is the link to Russian collusion.”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/04/18 06:56 AM




My wife and I raise some smart and beautiful, one of the prerequisites for parenting is discipline which makes them responsible adults. Since January 20, 2017, the Republicans have convinced themselves that the Liberals are 'picking" on Trump because they hate him, NO! contrary to their ignorance, we want to have a successful president that changes the country and world for the better and it's time out in ignoring his lack of wisdom, morals and ethics just for their sake. He is running the country into the ground while making the United States the global laughing stock. lastly, let's stop this nonsense of construing Trump as a wise strategist because in reality, his decisions are based more on his sour mood(which is pretty much frequent) A coin toss has a better chance at making a wise decision than Trump's own intellect making that decision. Mr. Trump, time to grow up and act presidential adverse to that of a petulant child.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/06/18 06:45 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-dean-gates-trump_us_5a938492e4b03b55731d85ce

Watergate Figure John Dean Says Rick Gates’ Testimony Could Be The End Of The Trump Presidency

“Increasingly it appears Manafort is the link to Russian collusion.”



After listening to Mr. Nunberg last night, one would think that Trump would take to his twitter account immediately this morning to discredit the information being submitted but as we've figured out a few years ago, Trump and the Republicans dismiss fact and go after the character of any given entity. Granted Nunberg came across as agitated and possibly drunk or drugged altered, there's an old saying that drunk people lose the ability to lie and actually talk too much. Bottom dollar, he and the WH clan are behind closed doors creating a narrative attacking Nunberg's character while circumventing the fact that Nunberg's submissions correlate with what we already know, Trump has been lying for the last 18 months, otherwise, why all the obstruction?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/06/18 05:36 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-dean-gates-trump_us_5a938492e4b03b55731d85ce

Watergate Figure John Dean Says Rick Gates’ Testimony Could Be The End Of The Trump Presidency

“Increasingly it appears Manafort is the link to Russian collusion.”




Another one bites the dust

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/06/politics/gary-cohn-white-house-tariffs/index.html
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/07/18 05:36 AM

The Republicans are crying about Trump's investigation going on too long.....don't worry, we'll give equal time in regard to his personal affair(s) family, finances etc. Obama's investigation started in 2007 and ended in 2017, wait, Trump is still investigating him. So the way We see it, Mueller's work is only just beginning.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/07/18 08:29 AM

The Republicans and their supporters are showing their hypocrisy once again by stating that Trump's indiscretions are a non issue because they happen 10 years ago, well, explain the fact that Obama was born August 4, 1961 but his birth place was an issue for the next 9 years during campaigning, while in office and after his 2 terms ended. Guess who was the instigator in keeping this lie prevalent? Yes Donald J. Trump, the man that cheated on three wives, colluded with the Russians, is stealing money from the tax payers as we speak and finally,has a approval rating of 34 percent while dealing with damaging scandals on a daily basis. Donald........"payback is truly a B word" frown
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/09/18 01:58 AM

Lawrence O'Donnell Retweeted
Joy Reid
&#8207;Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Mar 7

Per @lawrence: the two people @realDonaldTrump seems to fear most are Vladimir Putin ... and Stormy Daniels.
246 replies 1,009 retweets 4,663 likes
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/10/18 09:52 AM

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018...iew-sot-ctn.cnn

Trump's EPA chief called him an 'empty vessel'

Environmental Protection Agency administrator Scott Pruitt called Donald Trump an "empty vessel" on the Constitution and rule of law in a February 2016 interview with a local Oklahoma radio show.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/14/18 01:05 PM

Ed Krassenstein
&#128142;
&#8207; @EdKrassen
46m46 minutes ago

Conor Lamb’s win in #PA18 proves that Trumpism is dying. The only person who doesn’t know this is Trump himself.
94 replies 390 retweets 1,512 likes
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/15/18 03:04 AM

https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/665200?unlock=XR2GH022OZDVE1ET

President Trump is famous for avoiding responsibility, regularly blaming his predecessors for his administration’s shortcomings. Congressional Republicans have learned from his lead, making a sport of blaming lackluster candidates for their own political misfortunes. It’s become a running joke that before every competitive election under Trump, Republican operatives manage—like clockwork—to trash their candidate to the press.

It’s remarkable to see the lengths party leaders will go to avoid the elephant in the room: Trump. The reality is that plenty of mediocre, uninspiring candidates get elected to the House from typically safe districts. The difference this year isn’t the caliber of candidates. It’s that Trump is driving the Republican Party rank-and-file off the proverbial political cliff.

At this point, there have been enough off-year elections, polling data, and candidate-recruiting successes to render a clear verdict: Democrats are solid favorites to retake the House this year. Conor Lamb’s performance in a conservative, blue-collar Pennsylvania congressional district is simply the latest evidence that the makings of a perfect political storm are in play for 2018: energized Democratic turnout, apathetic Republican engagement, and suburban independents (particularly women) running away from the GOP.

The race-by-race tally also suggests the potential of a significant Democratic wave. There are now a whopping 47 Republican-held House seats that are rated as vulnerable by The Cook Political Report; Democrats need to win only around half of them (24) to take back the majority. Pennsylvania’s new congressional map could easily net Democrats five or six seats in the state. Without a competitive gubernatorial and Senate race in California, seven GOP-held seats in the state are at risk of flipping. Those two states alone get Democrats halfway back to power.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/15/18 07:45 AM

Republican Senator Kennedy just introduced a bill banning pets from being placed in an overhead bin during airline flights due to a dog dying during a recent flight. Only a month ago, 17 students were mercilessly mowed down by a crazed gunman, yes you've guess right, the Republicans are offering more guns to resolve the issue with no bill to maybe prevent more massacres in the future.


https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/airpla...ead-bin-n856361




http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/37854...ern-for-airline
Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/15/18 12:08 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/665200?unlock=XR2GH022OZDVE1ET

President Trump is famous for avoiding responsibility, regularly blaming his predecessors for his administration’s shortcomings. Congressional Republicans have learned from his lead, making a sport of blaming lackluster candidates for their own political misfortunes. It’s become a running joke that before every competitive election under Trump, Republican operatives manage—like clockwork—to trash their candidate to the press.

It’s remarkable to see the lengths party leaders will go to avoid the elephant in the room: Trump. The reality is that plenty of mediocre, uninspiring candidates get elected to the House from typically safe districts. The difference this year isn’t the caliber of candidates. It’s that Trump is driving the Republican Party rank-and-file off the proverbial political cliff.

At this point, there have been enough off-year elections, polling data, and candidate-recruiting successes to render a clear verdict: Democrats are solid favorites to retake the House this year. Conor Lamb’s performance in a conservative, blue-collar Pennsylvania congressional district is simply the latest evidence that the makings of a perfect political storm are in play for 2018: energized Democratic turnout, apathetic Republican engagement, and suburban independents (particularly women) running away from the GOP.

The race-by-race tally also suggests the potential of a significant Democratic wave. There are now a whopping 47 Republican-held House seats that are rated as vulnerable by The Cook Political Report; Democrats need to win only around half of them (24) to take back the majority. Pennsylvania’s new congressional map could easily net Democrats five or six seats in the state. Without a competitive gubernatorial and Senate race in California, seven GOP-held seats in the state are at risk of flipping. Those two states alone get Democrats halfway back to power.


And if they all run on a pro 2nd amendment, anti-abortion, anti-establishment platform (like Lamb did) --- GREAT
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/15/18 12:38 PM

Your logic doesn't factor into the equation. There are only two scenarios, both which makes you a liar, either the voters turned against Trump's narratives from the 2016 National election or there was an evolution of mindset from both voters and candidate whereas Mr. Lamb decided to stay Liberal and apply common sense. I'll say emphatically that both were the deciding factor.


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/...ts-rick-saccone
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/15/18 12:49 PM

I'm waiting for your spin that tax cuts won it for Conner Lamb
or was it the tariffs? maybe the lack of health care, or how about high gun volume? Equality toward people irrespective of race or gender? Every one of these topics were covered in your frequent submission of cartoons supporting Trump, apparently the voters of Pennsylvania decided that there need to be a change of narrative and destructive direction the country is heading. Donald Trump never apologized for bad behavior, bad decisions, cheating on his wife, lying to the American citizen and recently lying to the president of Canada, any way you look at it, he's either a sociopath, pathologically and mentally disturbed and it seems that it's contagious because you spin like a flying saucer attempting to correct your previous mistakes and lies. laugh
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/17/18 08:37 AM

http://www.upworthy.com/it-s-official-jimmy-fallon-will-be-at-the-march-for-our-lives?c=ufb0&s=p

It's official: Jimmy Fallon will be at the March for Our Lives.


After expressing sympathies for the students and teachers who lost their lives when a 19-year-old gunman tore through the school on Feb. 14, Fallon explained why he's been so in awe of the student survivors.
"I think what the students of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School are doing is unbelievable," he began his monologue

https://marchforourlives.com/

March For Our Lives

On March 24, the kids and families of March For Our Lives will take to the streets of Washington DC to demand that their lives and safety become a priority and that we end this epidemic of mass school shootings. The collective voices of the March For Our Lives movement will be heard. Join us in DC or march in your own community.

Join one of the 769 Events Worldwide


Posted by: cwjga

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/17/18 09:42 AM

Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/17/18 10:19 AM

Everything is comical and adolescence isn't it? I was going to state that you need to act your age but after careful consideration, you're struggling to get out of training pants and building blocks....remember those? grin
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/19/18 09:51 AM

This idiot of a POTUS tweets this morning about a total "witch hunt" implying that Mueller's team searching efforts are all for naught but simultaneously fails to give a 30 year FBI servant even the decency of due process, especially when McGabe stands to lose his pension because of a unilateral, vindictive and selfish move. When it's all said and done, Trump's demise will be swift and decisive after a long string of evidence is presented. Take your time Bob Mueller, the fool is starting to feel the heats on the back of his neck knowing full well that he is guilty as Hell and all the bloviating and blustering won't deter Mueller none what so ever.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/20/18 09:18 AM

Senator Ed Markey, D-MA, was on MSNBC a few minutes ago. He said if Trump fires Mueller it will be the end of the Trump presidency,

MSNBC reported that Paul Ryan just said that he is "confident" that Mueller will be able to finish his work.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/20/18 09:26 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/02/us/school-shootings-2018-list-trnd/index.html

There has been, on average, 1 school shooting every week this year
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/20/18 10:43 AM

I hear the narratives already, an armed resource officer shot and killed the shooter before he did more damage but how about this scenario, instead of only two children being shot, how about preventive measures insuring that NO!!!!! guns can enter the school in the first place? including teachers, one who accidentally shot himself last week on school grounds.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/20/18 11:10 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Senator Ed Markey, D-MA, was on MSNBC a few minutes ago. He said if Trump fires Mueller it will be the end of the Trump presidency,

MSNBC reported that Paul Ryan just said that he is "confident" that Mueller will be able to finish his work.
On CNN they just quoted Senator Graham as saying that if Trump fires Mueller without cause that would be an impeachable offense.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/20/18 11:22 AM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Senator Ed Markey, D-MA, was on MSNBC a few minutes ago. He said if Trump fires Mueller it will be the end of the Trump presidency,

MSNBC reported that Paul Ryan just said that he is "confident" that Mueller will be able to finish his work.
On CNN they just quoted Senator Graham as saying that if Trump fires Mueller without cause that would be an impeachable offense.
I am getting the feeling that a lot of Republicans in congress think that Bob Mueller will find charges against Trump so serious that he will be forced to resign and he would be replaces by Mike Pence. They would think good riddance but of course they can't say that.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/20/18 07:47 PM

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-a...achine?ref=home

Fox News commentator Ret. Lt. Col. Ralph Peters—who called Obama a ‘p*ssy’ on-air in 2015—told colleagues he is now “ashamed” of the right-leaning network.
Maxwell Tani
03.20.18 4:20 PM ET

A longtime Fox News commentator on Tuesday let the network have it in a scathing letter to colleagues announcing his departure.

In an email to Fox News staff, first obtained by BuzzFeed News, strategic analyst Ret. Lt. Col. Ralph Peters claimed he decided not to renew his contract earlier this month because of how “ashamed” he is of Fox.

Peters attributed his decision to Fox’s defense of President Trump amid alleged Russian collusion in the 2016 presidential election, declaring that the network was increasingly “wittingly harming our system of government for profit.”

“Fox News is assaulting our constitutional order and the rule of law, while fostering corrosive and unjustified paranoia among viewers,” he wrote in the email. “Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association. Now I am ashamed.”

He continued: “Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration.”

In a statement, Fox News said: “Ralph Peters is entitled to his opinion despite the fact that he’s choosing to use it as a weapon in order to gain attention. We are extremely proud of our top-rated primetime hosts and all of our opinion programing.”

Amid his anti-Fox missive, however, the retired colonel did make carve-outs for some colleagues.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/21/18 01:38 PM

Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Senator Ed Markey, D-MA, was on MSNBC a few minutes ago. He said if Trump fires Mueller it will be the end of the Trump presidency,

MSNBC reported that Paul Ryan just said that he is "confident" that Mueller will be able to finish his work.
On CNN they just quoted Senator Graham as saying that if Trump fires Mueller without cause that would be an impeachable offense.
I am getting the feeling that a lot of Republicans in congress think that Bob Mueller will find charges against Trump so serious that he will be forced to resign and he would be replaces by Mike Pence. They would think good riddance but of course they can't say that.




Is there any room left for normalcy with this idiot in office? We had another school shooting in Maryland, a serial bomber (the only one we pray) killed himself while he congratulate a Russian dictator. I see that one of the oldest House of Representatives, Louise Slaughter recently died, no announcement or lowering of our flag for her but he has the time and effort to attempt to discredit Robert Mueller via tweets, staying up till the wee hours of the morning fuming and venting.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/21/18 01:49 PM

Governor Andrew M. Cuomo today directed that flags on all state government buildings be flown at half-staff in honor of Congresswoman Louise Slaughter on Friday, March 23, the day of her funeral.

"The New York family continues to mourn the passing of Congresswoman Louise Slaughter," Governor Cuomo said. "She was a champion for our state who fought tirelessly for the Rochester area, and her remarkable legacy will carry on for generations to come. I ask all New Yorkers to join me in honoring the memory of a trailblazer who set an example for others to follow."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/25/18 10:39 AM

OMG. This is ridiculous. Even for Santorum.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/25/politics/rick-santorum-guns-cnntv/index.html

CNN commentator and former Pennsylvania GOP Sen. Rick Santorum on Sunday suggested students protesting for gun control legislation would be better served by taking CPR classes and preparing for active shooter scenarios.

"How about kids instead of looking to someone else to solve their problem, do something about maybe taking CPR classes or trying to deal with situations that when there is a violent shooter that you can actually respond to that," Santorum said on CNN's "State of the Union."

Santorum's comments came a day after protesters assembled at March for Our Lives events in Washington and across the country to demand gun control legislation in the wake of the deadly school shooting in Parkland, Florida.

Santorum dismissed the usefulness of "phony gun laws" and appeared to call on students and others to improve their communities and to prepare to respond to further shootings instead of calling for new laws.

"They took action to ask someone to pass a law," Santorum said. "They didn't take action to say, 'How do I, as an individual, deal with this problem? How am I going to do something about stopping bullying within my own community? What am I going to do to actually help respond to a shooter?'... Those are the kind of things where you can take it internally, and say, 'Here's how I'm going to deal with this. Here's how I'm going to help the situation,' instead of going and protesting and saying, 'Oh, someone else needs to pass a law to protect me.'"
Van Jones, a liberal CNN commentator, interjected and mentioned his own child was about to start high school.

"I want him focused on algebra and other stuff," Jones said. "If his main way to survive high school is learning CPR so when his friends get shot ... that to me, we've gone too far. I'm proud of these kids. I know you're proud of these kids too."
Santorum responded by continuing to knock gun control efforts.
"I'm proud of them," he said. "But I think everyone should be responsible and deal with the problems that we have to confront in our lives. And ignoring those problems and saying they're not going to come to me and saying some phony gun law is gonna solve it. Phony gun laws don't solve these problems."

Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/26/18 07:19 AM

SO TRUE!


Charles M. Blow
&#8207;Verified account @CharlesMBlow
2h2 hours ago

Can I just say, once again, that if that Stormy Daniels interview had been about Obama it would have been OVER, and EVERY black man would have been deemed so DEPRAVED that no other would ever be president again!
228 replies 1,386 retweets 5,396 likes
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/27/18 02:59 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-determined-war-north-korea-131221984.html

Representative Joaquin Castro, a top Democrat on the Foreign Affairs Committee, said Tuesday that he believes President Donald Trump is determined to launch a war with North Korea. Castro made the comments in the aftermath of Trump tapping former ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton as his national security adviser to replace the departing H.R. McMaster. Bolton has argued that it is “perfectly legitimate” for the United States to launch a preemptive strike against North Korea.

“I just think that this president, based on everything that I've seen and heard, is determined at some point to go to war with North Korea," Castro said on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. Castro added that the appointment of Bolton "is an affirmation of that.”

Castro then laid out what he sees as the stark dangers of a conflict with North Korea. “You’re talking about at minimum hundreds of thousands of people dead, if not millions of people,” he said. “That’s what’s at stake here.”

North Korea has accelerated its development and testing of intercontinental ballistic missiles since Trump came into office, claiming that it can now strike anywhere in the U.S. The South Korean capital Seoul, home to 10 million people, is just 35 miles from the North Korean border, while South Korea is also the base to thousands of U.S. troops.

Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un had traded insults and threats of nuclear war and annihilation for months before a sudden announcement earlier this month that the two leaders would sit down for a historic meeting in the coming months. There has been little development on that front, however, and Bolton’s selection has signified to many that the president may again be embracing a more hard-line approach.

Don't miss: Top Senators Urge Trump to Sell F-35 Jets to Taiwan to Fight Off Chinese Invasion

Trump President Donald Trump arrives at Andrews Air Force Base, in Maryland, on March 25. Trump has been accused of being determined to start a war with North Korea. His selection of John Bolton as national security adviser has only increased fears of a conflict. BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP/Getty Images

Castro added that the recent changes in the administration, which has also seen the departure of former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who advocated for a diplomacy-first approach, represent a worrying sign.

“There has to be some check and balance on the president, who is determined to go to war, and also you’d like to see people around the president who aren’t just yes-men or -women,” Castro said. “My fear with what's going on, the clearing out of this White House, from Secretary Tillerson, General McMaster and others, is that the president is basically clearing out anybody who isn’t subservient and obsequious to him and putting in people who are just going to say yes or who already agree with him anyway so there's no conflict at all.”

With recent developments, Castro said, it was now time for Congress to at least “talk about” legislation that would put a check on the president’s power to launch a pre-emptive strike.

This article was first written by Newsweek
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/28/18 11:28 AM

Except for Trump, they don't come any dumber than Santorum.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/28/politics/...nntv/index.html

Former Sen. Rick Santorum said Wednesday he misspoke when suggesting earlier this week that students should learn CPR instead of advocating for gun control.

"I did misspeak in using the term CPR," the Pennsylvania Republican and CNN commentator told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day."
Santorum made headlines on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday when he made the CPR suggestion.
"How about kids instead of looking to someone else to solve their problem, do something about maybe taking CPR classes or trying to deal with situations that when there is a violent shooter that you can actually respond to that," Santorum said Sunday.

CPR, or cardiopulmonary resuscitation, is typically performed to keep blood and oxygen circulating throughout the body until further measures can be taken to restart the heart. A gunshot wound typically requires action to stanch bleeding.

He joked on Wednesday, "I think Sanjay Gupta's job here at CNN is probably safe as being the medical commentator on things."
Santorum went on to describe positives that have come out of gun control advocacy, like "organizations and people who have actually focused on what we can do ... to actually prevent these types of things."
Santorum's comments Sunday prompted a statement from Everytown for Gun Safety program manager Erica Lafferty, whose mother was killed in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
"Rick Santorum's words are an insult to the kids of Parkland, my family and to the countless others who have had loved ones taken by gun violence," Lafferty said in a statement. "My mother was killed while protecting her students at Sandy Hook School. For anyone to suggest that the solution to gun violence is for kids to learn CPR is outrageous, and indicative of the NRA's desire to do or say anything except strengthen America's weak gun laws."
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/28/18 12:01 PM

There was a time that I shudder to hear the adolescent rhetoric coming from the mouths of ignorant Republicans but as midterms approach, these words and actions stay fresh in the minds of intelligent voters when they enter a booth, clearly a GOP bloodbath is in the cards evident by the last 2 elections defeating Republican candidates.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/28/18 04:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
There was a time that I shudder to hear the adolescent rhetoric coming from the mouths of ignorant Republicans but as midterms approach, these words and actions stay fresh in the minds of intelligent voters when they enter a booth, clearly a GOP bloodbath is in the cards evident by the last 2 elections defeating Republican candidates.
Three - VA, Al, and PA. grin
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/28/18 07:07 PM

The more, the merrier!!!!! laugh
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 03/31/18 03:51 PM

EVEN FOX NEWS KNOWS THAT TRUMPS IS AN IDIOT. CAN'T TRUMP UNDERSTAND THIS?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/...g-billions.html

President Trump reignited his feud with Amazon on Saturday arguing that the online retailer’s “scam” shipping deal with the U.S. Postal Service is costing the agency “billions of dollars.”

“It is reported that the U.S. Post Office will lose $1.50 on average for each package it delivers for Amazon. That amounts to Billions of Dollars,” Trump said over two tweets. “If the P.O. ‘increases its parcel rates, Amazon’s shipping costs would rise by $2.6 Billion.’ This Post Office scam must stop. Amazon must pay real costs (and taxes) now!”

The tweets suggest Trump got his information from The New York Times and attack the “Fake Washington Post,” which continues to be critical of Trump’s administration and is owned by Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon.

The president’s tweets on Saturday also suggest Amazon is not paying its fair share of sales tax and that the Post’s “lobbying staff” has “ballooned” in efforts to keep favorable tax laws and the Postal Service deal.

However, federal regulators have found the contract with Amazon to be profitable.

“I have stated my concerns with Amazon long before the Election,” Trump tweeted Thursday. “Unlike others, they pay little or no taxes to state & local governments, use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy (causing tremendous loss to the U.S.), and are putting many thousands of retailers out of business!”

The Post and Bezos have responded to Trump's lobbyist claims in the past by declaring that Bezos is not involved in any journalistic decisions at the paper.

Amazon.com, Inc., and the newspaper declined to comment Saturday.

Amazon lives and dies by shipping, and an increase in the rates it pays could certainly do some damage. Amazon sends packages via the post office, FedEx, UPS and other services.

But while the U.S. Postal Service has lost money for 11 years, package delivery -- which has been a bright spot for the service -- is not the reason.

Boosted by e-commerce, the Postal Service has experienced double-digit increases in revenue from delivering packages, but that hasn't been enough to offset pension and health care costs as well as declines in first-class letters and marketing mail.

Together, letters and marketing mail make up more than two-thirds of postal revenue.

In arguing that the Postal Service is losing money on delivering packages for Amazon, Trump appears to be citing some Wall Street analysis that argue the Postal Service's formula for calculating its costs is outdated. A 2017 analysis by Citigroup did conclude that the Postal Service was charging below market rates as a whole on parcels.

Still, federal regulators have reviewed the Amazon contract with the Postal Service each year and determined it to be profitable.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/01/18 06:10 AM

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...er-nazi-germany

Anne Frank Centre warns of 'alarming parallels' between Trump's America and Hitler's Germany

The human rights group compared Donald Trump's Presidency to the 'escalating steps of oppression' that led to the Holocaust
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/01/18 08:23 AM

This idiot creates his own diversionary scenarios only for the sake of defending his dysfunctional antics which are destroying our country. Some place in his pea brain, he thinks that by creating false rumors, people will buy into them (well some Conservatives supporters do) where in actuality the fool comes across even more incredulous and half baked.


http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/29/technology/trump-tweets-about-amazon-taxes/index.html
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/05/18 10:56 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/politics/trump-border-crossings-contradiction/index.html


Trump wants it both ways on border crossings

Analysis by Z. Byron Wolf, CNN


The point is that in justifying his deploying of the National Guard, Trump's DHS secretary is pointing to a dangerous surge, but that in his tweet, Trump still wants credit for success.
In the proclamation authorizing deploying the National Guard, Trump ignores specific data of border crossings, but rather cites general "lawlessness" at the border and specifically argues that the flow of drugs and the gang MS-13 compel him to act.

It's worth reading that portion of his proclamation:
The security of the United States is imperiled by a drastic surge of illegal activity on the southern border. Large quantities of fentanyl, other opioids, and other dangerous and illicit drugs are flowing across our southern border and into our country at unprecedented levels, destroying the lives of our families and loved ones. Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) and other deadly transnational gangs are systematically exploiting our unsecured southern border to enter our country and develop operational capacity in American communities throughout the country. The anticipated rapid rise in illegal crossings as we head into the spring and summer months threatens to overwhelm our Nation's law enforcement capacities.

It's also worth bearing in mind that Trump has pivoted in April to a hard focus on the border and his frustration with Congress. That he also has an eye on midterm elections, where Republicans are facing headwinds, and how that issue will play with the voters who put him in the White House, has been documented by CNN's Jeremy Diamond.

But stoking fear about border crossings will be more difficult for him if he also wants to argue that he's been effective at keeping border crossings down.

Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/07/18 03:21 AM

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/06/epa-scott-pruitt-employees-467487

Inside the EPA: ‘It’s just a slow-motion train wreck’

‘Everybody is out for themselves right now,’ says one employee in an agency where people are fretting about leaks and Scott Pruitt’s scandals.

By EMILY HOLDEN

04/06/2018 05:50 PM EDT Updated 04/06/2018 08:31 PM EDT
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Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/08/18 03:18 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/07/politics/nugent-democrats-media-advocates-rabid-coyotes/index.html

By Alessia Grunberger

Updated 2:39 PM ET, Sun April 8, 2018

Ted Nugent compared multiple groups he opposes to "rabid coyotes" on Friday, adding that you "keep your gun handy" to shoot them on sight.

Nugent, a musician and National Rifle Association board member, made the remarks during a seemingly casual -- yet fiery -- interview with InfoWars host Alex Jones. During the interview, Jones -- a right-wing conspiracy theorist -- said he wanted to know why liberals hate America and "love communism."
"Don't ask why," Nugent said. "Just know that evil, dishonesty and scam artists have always been around and that right now they're liberal, they're Democrat, they're RINOs, they're Hollywood, they're fake news, they're media, they're academia, and they're half of our government, at least."
"So come to that realization," he continued. "There are rabid coyotes running around, you don't wait till you see one to go get your gun, keep your gun handy. And every time you see one, shoot one."


Nugent's comments come days after he called the Parkland, Florida, shooting survivors "liars" and "poor, mushy-brained children."

Last year following the shooting of Louisiana Republican Rep. Steve Scalise as he and others practiced for the annual Congressional Baseball Game, Nugent told a New York radio station that he would stop "the hateful rhetoric."
"I cannot and will not and I encourage even my friends, slash, enemies on the left, in the Democrat and liberal world, that we have got to be civil to each other," he told 77 WABC.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/09/18 04:58 PM

George Takei
&#8207;Verified account @GeorgeTakei
52m52 minutes ago

Now, normally the communications between a lawyer and his client are "privileged," meaning they can't be reviewed or used as evidence. But there is an exception to this rule when the lawyer has assisted the client in the commission of a crime. Hmmm.
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Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/10/18 02:58 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-white-house/index.html

There could be dark and unprecedented times ahead.

The FBI raid against Michael Cohen spiked President Donald Trump's rampant indignation over the Robert Mueller probe to previously unseen heights, multiplying the persecution complex he feels about the FBI and his own Justice Department and fueling his sense he's the target of a witch hunt.
And it suggests that Cohen, who paid off adult film star Stormy Daniels, could be a bridge between the two separate legal strands threatening Trump.

"There is no way that they are looking for things that don't connect to the President in some way," Anne Milgram, a former New Jersey attorney general told CNN's Anderson Cooper of the Cohen raid. "It really is an unbelievable day when you start to think about what is happening, what we are going to see next."

t was an extraordinary day that going forward may significantly lessen the chances that America escapes the maelstrom of Mueller's special counsel investigation and Trump's consequent fury without significant damage to its civic institutions.
"We are in pretty treacherous territory here. It's unprecedented to my knowledge to have the President's personal attorney raided like this," said CNN senior political analyst David Gergen. "They must have been able to present evidence that was hugely compelling to take a step like this."
Sources inside the White House say that Trump sees the move against Cohen as proof that Mueller has leaped far beyond the constraints of his original probe into whether his campaign operatives colluded with Russia.

The fact that Cohen -- a relentless, unyielding protector of Trump -- was hit by a search warrant particularly fed Trump's anger.

"It's a disgrace, it's, frankly, a real disgrace, it's an attack on our country in a true sense. It's an attack on all we stand for," Trump told reporters at the White House.

The FBI agents acted on a warrant obtained from a referral by Mueller, further fueling Trump's fury and raising new fears about how the President might respond. Could he, for instance, try to have the special counsel removed?
The President also lashed out at Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who is overseeing the Mueller probe and Attorney General Jeff Sessions who recused himself from it.
Those two officials played no role in the FBI raids which were based on search warrants obtained by a federal judge by the US Attorney of the Southern district of New York, Geoffrey Berman, a Trump appointee.
But Trump's extreme anger at Sessions and Rosenstein, written across his face as he fulminated in front of reporters at the White House, means it is not far-fetched to consider he may be thinking the unthinkable -- launching a stunning maneuver to topple the leadership of the Justice Department that would enable him to effectuate the canning of Mueller.
"Why don't I just fire Mueller? Well, I think it's a disgrace what's going on. We'll see what happens," Trump said. "But I think it's really a sad situation, when you look at what happened. And many people have said, you should fire him."
Trump could have been simply venting, in a televised version of the Twitter rants that he has often used to slam the FBI, the Mueller probe and the integrity of those who are leading the investigation against him.
If that is the case, perhaps he got it off his chest while attempting to limit the impact of Monday's news on his ever-loyal political base following a months-long effort to discredit Mueller's investigation and the FBI.

Yet Trump's demeanor gave the impression that he was stuck in a corner, contemplating extreme measures to extricate himself and may be beyond convincing otherwise.
He didn't look like someone content to sit tight and await Mueller's results.
One source familiar with Trump's mood told CNN's Gloria Borger that Trump was more angry with Rosenstein and Sessions than Mueller, and that no one around him knew what he would do next.
CNN's Kaitlan Collins reported that the Cohen raid sent Trump over the edge because the lawyer is like a surrogate family member for Trump, and frequently dines with the President and first lady Melania Trump.
Should Trump orchestrate the firing of Mueller, he would unleash a political tsunami and trigger demands for impeachment by Democrats. Republicans who run Congress would face extreme pressure to consider whether the President's actions merit such draconian action. There's no way out of that imbroglio without causing significant political reverberations that would last for years.
Trump's presidency has been packed with surreal moments. But Monday's staggering events took some believing.
An FBI raid on the offices of a lawyer employed by a sitting President is something that is without precedent in modern political memory.

A President reacting in real time by attacking the probity of an investigation against him and wondering how to end it.
And even the setting of Trump's comments was mind-boggling -- he burst out with his comments unprompted as his top military brass was gathered around him, contemplating whether to send US forces to war in Syria.
If Monday's events bore threatening implications for the President -- they also considerably raise the stakes for Mueller himself. While the special counsel may have only referred the Cohen case to New York prosecutors he is now indelibly linked to the move in a way that could impact the political environment in which his investigation is unfolding.
"I think it's a bet and they better find something," said Mike Shields, a former chief of staff of the Republican National Committee, arguing that a decision to raid the office of the President's personal lawyer raises the stakes for his investigation.
"You don't find anything -- the credibility of the entire investigation is going to rest on that. ... It is going to make (Mueller) look terrible if nothing comes out of it," Shields said on CNN.
But Preet Bharara, who served as the US Attorney in the Southern District of New York until he was fired by Trump, suggested that prosecutors would not undertake such an aggressive move lightly.
"It's being done because people think it's very serious, people think it's totally warranted and people think there's evidence of a significant enough nature that you're going to risk doing something sensitive like raiding a law office," Bharara said.

Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/10/18 07:15 AM

Republican Senator Trey Gowdy has it correct,"Mr. President, if you're truly innocent, please act like it" This idiot is his own worse enemy by his constant babbling, finger pointing and name calling, with no evidence of as he say "WITCH HUNTING" He knows that the FEDS are within striking distance with facts and evident and his only recourse is to do what he do best, lie and blame others for his indiscretions.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/10/18 08:59 AM

As of 9AM Eastern Standard time, Trump cancels a trip to South America in regard to the Syrian crises, if you're innocent Sir, why stay around to defend yourself being that you HAVE surrogates to defend you?...wait, one of those individual had his office and home searched yesterday due to communications with you. Secondly, seeing that you've lied for a greater share of your life, no one and we mean no one can conjure up "WHOPPERS" as efficient as yourself. Your're right!!!!! Best that you stick around.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/11/18 03:17 AM

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-raid-o...s-life?ref=home


Monday’s FBI raids on Michael Cohen’s Rockefeller Center office, his hotel room, and his home all provided a proper dose of comeuppance to a man more accustomed to screaming threats, shit-tier legal theorizing, and putting his strip-mall law degree to work in service of Donald Trump.

Cohen, far from being the superlawyer to a billionaire real-estate tycoon, really only has one important job: covering up Trump’s alleged dalliances. It was Cohen batting cleanup, dealing with an army of models, escorts, Mistresses (large “M” and small “m”), actresses, porn stars, models, Real Dolls, fangirls, groupies, and random topiary at Mar-a-Delicto with a wall of nondisclosure agreements. Master of the NDA, Cohen thought attorney-client privilege would protect him.

He forgot he had a fool for a client. Trump couldn’t shut his mouth on Air Force One last week.





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Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/15/18 04:48 PM

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-kuttner-rosenstein-bannon_us_5ad39c60e4b016a07e9d7fc5

Something very fishy happened last week. On Friday, we were treated to almost hourly rumors that President Donald Trump’s firing of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein was imminent. This was to be followed by a scheme to either fire or drastically limit the authority of special counsel Robert Mueller.

The cable channels went into overdrive and the newspapers picked up the story. Critics issued dire predictions.

And then exactly nothing happened. So what was this about?

Piecing this together, it’s clear that at midweek, my old pal Steve Bannon managed to get through to Trump, and pitched him on one more trademark Bannon scheme: Fire Rosenstein and cease cooperating with Mueller, citing executive privilege. Bannon also called on Trump to fire lawyer Ty Cobb.

This was first reported by The Washington Post, and then other news media found sources to confirm that Trump was livid and that the plan was under very serious consideration.

But Rosenstein is still there, and so is Mueller. On Sunday morning, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said she was not aware of any plans to fire either.

A prime source of the leaks keeping this tale alive was surely Bannon himself. He evidently hoped to jam Trump into going along with the scheme. I have not been able to confirm this with Bannon &#8213; he no longer returns my calls &#8213; but this is his signature modus operandi, and he went on the record with the Post to kick it off.

Trump is damned either way. If he fires Rosenstein and Mueller, he hastens his own downfall. If he lets things play out, the waters keep rising.

But as often happens with Bannon’s grand designs, this one backfired. Dithering Republicans, including several senators, were quick to send clear messages to Trump that this move would mark the beginning of the end of his presidency. For the first time, Senate Judiciary Chair Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) agreed to fast-track a bill protecting the special counsel’s independence. And one can only imagine how many Republican senators phoned Trump to warn in private what they have not said publicly.

Such a bill is unlikely to pass the diehard pro-Trump House, but the threat to fire Rosenstein and Mueller put the Republican Congress in even more jeopardy, after a week in which House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), anticipating a November wipeout, announced that he will not run for re-election.

It’s also clear that the few remaining adults at the White House cautioned Trump not to move against Rosenstein.

Meanwhile, other events intruded to make the timing of any move against the special counsel even more ill-advised. A mother lode of presumably damaging material on Trump is now in the hands of the U.S. attorney in New York and the FBI, thanks to the recklessness of Trump’s longtime personal lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen. The likelihood is that Cohen himself will face criminal charges and that many of his dealings with Trump are not protected by attorney-client privilege.

Just to add to the complications this weekend, the pile-up of issues facing a president whose trademark is not exactly self-discipline included the bombing of targets in Syria and an apparent 180-degree turn on whether the U.S. should join the Trans-Pacific Partnership after all.

(The TPP, an initiative of President Barack Obama, was long an object of Trump’s scorn. But now, pressure from the farm lobby has led to a pledge by Trump to reverse that decision. This would be one more big defeat for Bannon.)
Jonathan Bachman / Reuters

If ever there was a window when Trump might have gotten away with a Saturday Night Massacre scenario of serial firings, that window has now closed. The damage to Trump himself and to his remaining political support among election-anxious Republicans would far outweigh the gains.

Even without Mueller, the investigation fueled by everything that he has already unearthed would live on, whether via the U.S. attorney’s office in New York, the Congress, the Justice Department or any of several state attorneys general. A president with broad political support might have illusions of quashing all such investigations, but Trump lacks that political support. And firing Rosenstein and Mueller would further erode what remains of his political backing, even among Republicans.

This also deepens a long-deferred crisis for the Republican Party. Until now, Republicans alarmed by Trump have been willing to go along with him, because he has enabled them to enact longstanding ideological goals such as tax cuts for the rich and massive deregulation of industry.

But with Trump flirting with placing himself above the law, Republicans are not only in a moral bind, but in a political bind. Trump’s basic approval ratings still hover around 40 percent, and part of the conservative base will defend him no matter what. But many Republican leaders and voters consider firing Rosenstein and then Mueller to be a bright red line that Trump must not cross.

So Trump is damned either way. If he fires Rosenstein and Mueller, he hastens his own downfall. If he lets things play out, the waters keep rising and soon more details will come out one way or another — which will also hasten his demise. Impeachment is not yet explicitly on the political agenda, but it soon will be.

Steve Bannon is the gift that keeps on giving &#8213; to Democrats. Moreover, Bannon and Trump are right about one thing. The “deep state” &#8213; the layers of federalism, the separation of powers, the basic integrity of courts &#8213; are not going away. Trump can’t take over them all.

Trump’s impotent lashing out is a sign that he’s cornered, and he knows it.
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Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/16/18 12:01 PM

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/seth-klarman-democratic-donor_us_5ad4322fe4b077c89cea0063

A major GOP donor is jumping ship and now he’s contributing to Democratic candidates in hopes of flipping the House of Representatives and/or the Senate in this year’s midterm elections.

Seth Klarman, the billionaire CEO of the Baupost Group who the Economist once dubbed “The Oracle of Boston,” called out Republicans for failing to keep President Donald Trump in check.

“The Republicans in Congress have failed to hold the president accountable and have abandoned their historic beliefs and values,” Klarman told the Boston Globe. “For the good of the country, the Democrats must take back one or both houses of Congress.”

Klarman, an independent who donated more than $7 million to GOP candidates during the presidency of Barack Obama, has now cut checks to Democrats in 56 House races and 22 Senate elections, the newspaper reported.

“I received a tax cut I neither need nor want. I’m choosing to invest it to fight the administration’s flawed policies and to elect Democrats to the Senate and House of Representatives,” Klarman said.

Klarman also donated $2 million to nonprofits backing core Democratic issues, including gun control and the environment, the Globe reported.

While Klarman contributed far more to Republicans in 2016, he actually backed Hillary Clinton in the presidential race, calling Trump “completely unqualified for the highest office in the land,” according to Reuters.

His views have not changed since the election.

Last year, Klarman described Trump as a “threat to democracy,” per audio obtained by New York magazine. He also warned against Trump’s protectionist agenda in a letter to his investors, saying such policies “not only don’t work, they actually leave society worse off,” The New York Times reported.

In the same letter, he sounded the alarm about the Trump-backed tax cuts that were ultimately enacted by the Republican-led Congress.

“The Trump tax cuts could drive government deficits considerably higher,” Klarman wrote, noting that cuts in 2001 under President George W. Bush “fueled income inequality while triggering huge federal budget deficits.”

Now, he’s putting his money where his mouth is, donating his own proceeds from those cuts to work against the Republicans who enacted them.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/17/18 04:42 PM

https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-co...-again?ref=home

Michael Cohen, the World’s Worst Fixer, Keeps Screwing Up


Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/18/18 07:15 AM

http://theweek.com/speedreads/768151/gop-strategist-steve-schmidt-some-advice-nikki-haley-run

Steve Schmidt, a Republican strategist whose worked on campaigns for George W. Bush and John McCain, is doling out free advice to Nikki Haley, and President Trump's not going to like it.

Haley, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said on Sunday that the Trump administration was planning on imposing new sanctions against Russia on Monday, which ended up not happening. Trump's top economic adviser, Larry Kudlow, said on Tuesday she had "momentary confusion," to which Haley responded, "With all due respect, I don't get confused."

Schmidt thinks it's simple — Haley must step down. "Trump has shattered Nikki Haley's credibility as irrevocably as he obliterated his moral authority after Charlottesville," he tweeted Tuesday night. "Trump has humiliated her and she is at a fork in the road. Her choice is either to resign or take on the permanent stench of one more tainted factotum." Schmidt, a never-Trumper, went on to say the "first person to resign from this cancerous administration on principle will look back on that day the same way Powerball winners look back on the moment they bought their golden ticket." Should Haley remain part of the administration, he added, "it will be at the cost of her dignity." Catherine Garcia
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Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/18/18 03:42 PM

https://secondnexus.com/news/comey-leave...29b6b4043a47a2a

Former FBI Director James Comey says that he no longer considers himself a member of the Republican Party. Comey made the declaration during an appearance on ABC News podcast “Start Here.”

Comey believes that the party has “left him” along with “many others.”

“I think they’ve lost their way and I can’t be associated with it,” he said.

Elaborating further, Comey stressed that the GOP’s seemingly unequivocal support for President Donald Trump has assured his own exit from the party.

“These people don’t represent anything I believe in… The Republican Party, as near as I can tell, reflects now entirely Donald Trump’s values,” Comey said. “It doesn’t reflect values at all. It’s transactional, it’s ego-driven, it’s in service to his ego.”
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/19/18 07:23 AM

Here we are in 2018 and politically, my understanding is clearer as an adult while we revisit the 1970s when my Father's agitation was an constant venue as he watch Nixon's unethical behavior grow exponentially worse from day to day. Who would have predict that 50 years later, another Republican would repeat verbatim the same idiocy that his Conservative predecessor did? More astounding is the fact that this fool at least have the advantage of knowing the end result of his actions but as he always repeat "He's smarter than any of his predecessors" We already know that to be a falsehood based on the last 2 years of confusion, chaos and dysfunction.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/19/18 03:27 PM

Stormy Daniels lawyer was just on TV making a prediction that Trump would not finish out his first term.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/20/18 04:00 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/19/politics/donald-trump-james-comey-white-house/index.html

Trump has 'weathered Comey' but Cohen is 'consuming him,' White House source says

A week after the tell-all book from James Comey exploded onto the scene, President Donald Trump is telling aides and confidants something he rarely does: He's pleased at how Republicans and the White House led the charge to try and discredit the former FBI director.
From the Oval Office, complaints are heard far more frequently than compliments. The President has told multiple people this week at Mar-a-lago -- and late last week in the West Wing -- that he believes Comey's book has had little impact on him.
The President's allies spent weeks bracing for the release of Comey's memoir, "A Higher Loyalty," with some worrying whether Trump's reaction would negatively influence the Russia investigation.

"So far he's weathered Comey," a Republican who spoke to the President at Mar-a-lago this week. "It's Cohen that's consuming him."

Cohen, of course, is Michael Cohen, the President's longtime lawyer and fixer. His legal case is causing significant turmoil inside the White House, three administrations officials told CNN, far more than Comey.
Cohen is considered "a wild card that we can do little to nothing about," one of the officials said.

The President is asking multiple people for advice on Cohen, the officials said, including Ivanka Trump, who is close to Cohen.
The President has told several people he doesn't think Cohen would betray him, the officials said, but that has not quieted the questions.
As for Comey, the American public will have the final say on how Comey's book influences opinions on Trump. It's far too soon to say whether the orchestrated Republican efforts to discredit Comey will have a lasting effect, but the release of his book has unleashed far more criticism than support, with

Democrats all but silent over it.
To be sure, Comey has far more of his book tour to come -- including his face-to-face interview with CNN's Jake Tapper Thursday and a CNN town hall next week with Anderson Cooper.
Republicans intend to send a staffer dressed in a lion's costume to tail Comey on his upcoming book tour, aides said, trying to drive home their theme "Lyin'Comey" in local press coverage.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/20/18 05:52 AM

How do we as Americans know when Trump is being truthful? A question which only Conservatives will attempt to answer and their response has only a 50/50 chance of being accurate.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/20/18 12:39 PM

What happen to our tax cuts since the price of oil is rising along with other consumer commodities? I hear my older neighbor's accounts of getting an increase in Social Security to have it's positive effects diminished by Medicare increases.


http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/20/news/oil-prices-opec-trump/index.html
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/21/18 05:17 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/20/opinions/...nion/index.html

Bringing Rudy Giuliani on to President Donald Trump's legal team all but guarantees the White House circus becomes a three-ring affair.

While the ex-New York mayor says he'll have a "limited role" and that Robert Mueller's Russia investigation "needs a little push," history shows Trump surrounds himself with loyalists when the end is near. Giuliani's arrival signals that something darker -- perhaps something worse than the Mueller probe -- could be lurking around the corner.

Look no further than the campaign, when Trump expelled the buttoned-up Paul Manafort, an establishment Republican, and went with the far-right Steve Bannon, who let the candidate be himself near the end of what seemed to be a doomed campaign. The same parallel could be drawn with Trump opting to bring Giuliani, a New Yorker of a combative nature, into a team of diplomatic Washington lawyers.

You don't call Rudy Giuliani when things are merely awful: His phone rings when the alternative is complete catastrophe.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/22/18 01:48 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/

GOP strategist says Cohen investigation 'could be the end of (Trump's) presidency'
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/22/18 01:50 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/corker-oppose-democrat-seeking-senate-seat-54645879

Outgoing Republican Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee is sticking by his decision not to campaign against the Democrat seeking to fill his seat.

Corker says he considers the Democrat, former Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen (BRED'-uh-sen), a "friend." Corker backs Republican Rep. Marsha Blackburn but says he won't oppose Bredesen.

The Washington Post reported that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell had privately told Corker that his friendly comments about Bredesen risked Republicans' ability to hold their majority in the November elections. Republicans hold a slim 51-49 advantage in the Senate.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/23/18 05:23 AM

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sex-ta...-women?ref=home


HUSH HUSH
The Sex-Tape Lawyer Who Worked With Michael Cohen to Silence Trump’s Women

Keith Davidson, the ex-lawyer for Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, enjoyed a seemingly cozy relationship with Michael Cohen dating back years. Now he’s cooperating with the feds.
Kate Briquelet
Kate Briquelet
04.23.18 4:57 AM ET

When Stormy Daniels’ former attorney spoke to CNN earlier this month, he said President Donald Trump’s loyal fixer had encouraged him to speak out.

“He suggested that it would be appropriate for me to go out into the media and spill my guts,” Keith Davidson said of Trump’s embattled lawyer, Michael Cohen, a man who was supposed to be his legal opponent.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/23/18 06:48 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/23/opinions/trumps-tweets-why-is-he-always-shouting-ben-ghiat/index.html


They're an English teacher's nightmare: full of misspellings, typographical and grammatical errors, strange or missing punctuation. Read carefully, they often make no sense. They are full of Weird Capitalizations AND WHY IS HE ALWAYS SHOUTING?

They are tweets from the personal account of President Donald Trump. It's not hard to see why his critics point to his Twitter feed as evidence of instability and unfitness to hold America's highest office: rages, lies, vindictiveness -- it's all there for the world to see, as is dangerous egomania. The tweets cry out: READ ME!

As always with Trump, there is more to the story. We know a lot by now about the content of the President's tweets, thanks to linguists like Jennifer Sclafani and political commentators who analyze them with the care of Cold War-era Kremlinologists.
We know that Trump writes the way he speaks, uses a fourth-grade level of vocabulary and repeats simple phrases that present the world in black and white. People and events are either "great" or "not good," "terrific," or "terrible," depending on how they feel about him and align with his agenda. We know he doesn't bother to correct spelling errors, and often uses the wrong word ("Council" instead of "Counsel" happened -- not for the first time -- this weekend).
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/23/18 07:20 AM

History will always repeat itself due to one basic fact, our country from it's inception has been controlled by rich oligarchs who are in many cases, dysfunctional in regard to education and morality, case in point, Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. who was very unethical but very rich and powerful. Within the family's rank was much mental deficiencies including the fact that "Dad" forced a lobotomy onto his daughter causing irreparable harm, his male offspring were groomed to be womanizers. More recently, HW Bush was very rich and as usual, very powerful in terms of knowing just the right people to get his son out of a Vietnam conflict while maintaining poor grades in school and college, yet he became a US president. Lastly, our buffoonish current POTUS was born into a lavish lifestyle (No fault of his own) but at an early age, learn to accept the privileges of being rich and never endeavor to make himself a decent human being but taking advantage of people & unethical opportunities. Teachers & professors were "encouraged" to pass him irrespective of his poor grades thus the reason for his poor spelling and lack of education but today's technology at least offers spell check but the fool have not the common sense to make use of it. I said all that to confirm the fact that here in America, the old adage is alive and well "It's not what you know that will get you were you what to be, it's who you know" and they will overlook all your dysfunctions so maybe you'll help them garner their undeserving agendas.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/25/18 10:29 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-morning-joe-apos-host-141209102.html

'Morning Joe' Host Says Trump's VA Nominee 'Sounded Like Hitler's Doctor' When Praising President's Health
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/25/18 04:38 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/20201cf8-6e68-34e2-afe1-b0c6e2d72857/ss_just-how-big-is-the.html

Just how big is the Democratic wave going to be this fall?
CNN•April 25, 2018

CNN rates 73 Republican seats as potentially competitive. The Cook Report puts 84 Republican districts in that competitive category while Inside Elections, another independent campaign tipsheet, has 58 competitive GOP seats.
What we know is that in a wave, seats get washed away that many people didn't even know were competitive. The larger the number of vulnerable districts, the more that could potentially get washed away.

And, from a more practical standpoint, Republicans and their aligned super PACs have only so much money to spend in 2018. The more of their own seats that come online as competitive, the more hard decisions party committees and super PACs will have to make about who gets money and who doesn't.

Simply stated: Arizona's 8th District results suggests that the coming wave is big -- and getting bigger.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/26/18 02:10 AM

Former FBI Director James Comey: "I hear this term 'deep state' all the time. There's no deep state, but there is a deep culture and a commitment to ... the fundamental values that are at the core of our Constitution, that runs really deep" https://cnn.it/2HRxJK4 #ComeyTownHall
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/26/18 07:56 AM

I Love it when Fox News has a poll showing the trouble Trump is in.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrati...trump-committed

Fox News poll: Majority think Mueller will find Trump committed criminal or impeachable offenses

By Jacqueline Thomsen - 04/25/18 07:07 PM EDT
Posted by: luckyduck

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/26/18 09:26 AM

Ironic that a poll released yesterday by McLaughlin & Associates with Dick Morris shows that:

By a margin of 51 percent to 33 percent, voters do not believe Mueller has found “real evidence of corruption by the president.”

More specifically, by a margin of 10 points, 43 percent to 33 percent, voters feel that Mueller has not uncovered any evidence that “President Trump colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election.”

A plurality of voters, 43 percent to 35 percent, said that Mueller’s investigation has “overstepped its designated purpose to investigate links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Trump by investigating individuals who had nothing to do with Russia.”

The poll also shows that voters are losing patience with Mueller’s probe.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/26/18 10:20 AM

Those polling samples came from what percentage of the American population?
Additionally what percentage of Democrats or Republicans were asked about the investigation?
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/26/18 10:26 AM

I live in a upscale Democratic district, come here and ask us what do we think of Trump and how guilty we think he is and I'll guarantee you that our 76 to 24 ratio edge will poll that he's a crook. Adversely so, do the same for a Republican favored area.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/26/18 10:37 AM

Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Ironic that a poll released yesterday by McLaughlin & Associates with Dick Morris shows that:

By a margin of 51 percent to 33 percent, voters do not believe Mueller has found “real evidence of corruption by the president.”

More specifically, by a margin of 10 points, 43 percent to 33 percent, voters feel that Mueller has not uncovered any evidence that “President Trump colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election.”

A plurality of voters, 43 percent to 35 percent, said that Mueller’s investigation has “overstepped its designated purpose to investigate links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Trump by investigating individuals who had nothing to do with Russia.”

The poll also shows that voters are losing patience with Mueller’s probe.
I provided a link to my poll. Can you provide a link to your poll? I find it ironic that Fox would not provide a poll showing Trump in the best possible light if such a poll exists.
Posted by: luckyduck

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/26/18 11:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Those polling samples came from what percentage of the American population?
Additionally what percentage of Democrats or Republicans were asked about the investigation?


Spot on Macdaddy. With a country as divided as ours every 1000 group polled could produce entirely different results.


For Kyle: http://mclaughlinonline.com/2018/04/25/m...-mueller-probe/

The national poll of 1,000 likely voters was conducted on April 22 and has a margin of error of 3.1 percent.

Thirty-six percent of respondents were Democrats, 33 percent were Republicans, and 31 percent were Independents. Seventy-one percent were White, 12 percent were African-American, 11 percent were Hispanic, and 4 percent were Asian. Fifty-three percent of respondents were female, 47 percent were male.

“This breakdown is modeled after the 2016 presidential election,” McLaughlin told Breitbart News.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/26/18 11:48 AM

Yet in your ignorance, you've attempted to get one by Kyle. Why even offer a non existent poll in the first place? I know, it's only natural that Trump supporters do why they do best.... LIE whistle
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/26/18 01:09 PM

Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Those polling samples came from what percentage of the American population?
Additionally what percentage of Democrats or Republicans were asked about the investigation?
Spot on Macdaddy. With a country as divided as ours every 1000 group polled could produce entirely different results.


For Kyle: http://mclaughlinonline.com/2018/04/25/m...-mueller-probe/

From your link:

Fifty-two percent of voters disapprove of President Trump’s job performance, while 46 percent approve, a net disapproval rating of 6 percent.

“But,” Morris cautioned “Trump can’t take it too far. Any attempt to remove Mueller would trigger a likely fatal backlash.”
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/27/18 01:42 PM

Brian Krassenstein
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BREAKING: Pennsylvania Republican Congressman Patrick Meehan just resigned!!

Another one down!!
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Rep. Patrick Meehan, R-Pa., resigns effective immediately, will pay back $39,000 settlement of sexual harassment case.

Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/27/18 01:45 PM


Brian Krassenstein
&#8207; @krassenstein
49m49 minutes ago

So today, the Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee released a closing report about their findings of "no evidence" of collusion between Russia and the Trump Campaign.

This report was released by the head of the committee, Devin Nunes, who was on the Trump Campaign.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/28/18 04:35 AM

The bad news is that the judge has delayed the Stormy Daniels case for 90 days. The worse news is that the judge thinks that Michael Cohen will be indicted. Think about this. It appears that the personal lawyer of the President of the United States will be indicted in a criminal investigation. This has never happened before in the history of our country. Our current situation is as least as bad as Watergate, probably worse. Trump should resign before he gets impeached and put this country out of our misery.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/27/politics/stormy-daniels-lawsuit-stay/index.html

A California judge halted Stormy Daniels' lawsuit against Michael Cohen for 90 days while the criminal investigation of President Donald Trump's personal attorney moves forward in New York.
Cohen had asked to halt the lawsuit because he would assert his Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate himself while the criminal investigation continues. He said he wouldn't be able to fully respond to questions that arose in Daniels' lawsuit.

In short, the lawsuit put Cohen in the hot seat at the same time he's fending off the criminal probe.

Because Cohen was the "alleged mastermind" behind a hush agreement and settlement payment with Daniels over her alleged affair with Trump, Judge James Otero wrote, he would have to choose whether he would take the Fifth or defend himself on "every major aspect" of the details in the case.

Otero further said he believes Cohen could be indicted.

"[T]he significance of the FBI raid cannot be understated," he wrote, nodding to the proceedings in New York that this week brought in a third-party lawyer to review Cohen's documents for confidential information before prosecutors can use them. "This is no simple criminal investigation; it is an investigation into the personal attorney of a sitting President regarding documents that might be subject to the attorney-client privilege.


"Whether or not an indictment is forthcoming, and the Court thinks it likely based on these facts alone, these unique circumstances counsel in favor of stay."
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/28/18 11:55 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/end-trump-apos-presidency-near-090002234.html

Is the End of Trump's Presidency Near?

The scandals surrounding President Donald Trump are metastasizing rapidly, much more than anyone would have thought just a few months ago.

The investigation by Robert Mueller, now 11 months in duration, has been accumulating evidence of possible Russian collusion, obstruction of justice, abuse of power, violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitution, and the corruption surrounding many members of the Trump circle, including his own children and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner.

But then the Stormy Daniels scandal, and other related shameful episodes involving other women became part of the equation, and the business dealings of Donald Trump in New York State were added to the complicated situation. And now, the seizure of materials and records of Trump personal lawyer Michael Cohen raises the ante on the troubles and turmoil surrounding Donald Trump. At the same time, Trump is without stable advice from his cabinet or others, due to the chaotic nature of a constantly changing set of advisers, and his tendency to “shoot from the hip” not only in tweets, but in constantly evolving views on domestic and foreign policy challenges.

With the midterm congressional elections now less than seven months away, and with the Republicans running scared about potential massive losses, and with more criticism emerging from not only respectable conservatives, but also from some of his own loyalists, Donald Trump’s time in the Presidency seems rapidly coming toward a sudden end.

While Republican members of Congress look unlikely to abandon him before the midterm elections, it could still happen if Donald Trump fires Robert Muller, Rod Rosenstein, Jeff Sessions, and others, a constant threat. New indictments by Mueller, and the possibility of such action by the New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman could be in the offing very soon. And if Trump family members were to be indicted, it could put Trump under such pressure that possible resignation, through some form of arranged “deal,” is not beyond imagination. If the Democrats win control of the House of Representatives in November, impeachment action seems highly likely in 2019, although conviction in the US Senate would be nearly impossible.

However, there is a scheduled meeting of right-wing Evangelical leaders with President Trump on June 19, to consider strategy for the midterm elections, as this group is alarmed at the thought that the Trump scandals could cost them the advancement of their religious agenda. It could be, two months from now, that gloom and doom will set in, and cause these pastors and ministers and their allies to consider Trump’s resignation as preferable, as it would bring a “true believer,” Vice President Mike Pence, to the Presidency.

One would think behind the scenes that many congressional Republicans and conservatives would clearly prefer Pence, who is religiously devout, and does not have the drama and controversy that Donald Trump constantly presents. With Pence, the right-wing would not lose, but instead gain a great deal of comfort. This makes it conceivable that we’ll see a repeat of history. When Richard Nixon proved toxic in July 1974 a delegation of congressional Republicans marched to the White House to let him know his base of support on Capitol Hill had collapsed.

No matter what the future scenario, America is in a constitutional crisis of greater proportions than Watergate, and with the attendant danger of a Great Recession or a third World War, caused by a mentally unstable and highly stressed President. So while it now seems likely that Trump will outlast the 492 days of President Zachary Taylor, to be reached on May 27, 2018, once thought by this scholar to be the end point of the Trump Presidency, it seems evident that Trump will leave office before the 4th shortest Presidency, that of Warren G. Harding from 1921-1923, a total of 881 days. This would be Thursday, June 20, 2019.

So with 15 months down in the Trump Presidency, the chance of his leaving in the next 14 months at the most is on the horizon.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/28/18 06:39 PM

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/04/28/trump-michael-cohen-aide-distance-218111

Week 49: Cohen Took a Bullet and Trump Fired It

The president’s attempt to distance himself from his attorney did his embattled loyal aide no favors.

By JACK SHAFER

The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, which is investigating Cohen, instantly leaped on Trump’s comment, setting fire to Cohen’s bullet-riddled and crushed body. The U.S. Attorney filed a letter with the judge in the Cohen case noting that if the famed fixer only did a “tiny, tiny, little fraction” of legal work for Trump, then not much of the Trump-related evidence seized by the FBI from Cohen could be privileged under lawyer/client confidentiality. Trump’s TV blabbing was stupid beyond stupid because it will help open to investigators’ eyes not just Cohen’s potentially scuzzy business dealings, both here and in Ukraine, but the president’s scuzziest deals from the past decade. The more the feds learn about Cohen, the more they’ll be able to lean on him in hopes of getting him to flip on the president.

Poor, poor, pitiful Cohen—gun-shot, shattered and smoking—also pleaded the Fifth Amendment this week in the Stormy Daniels lawsuit, which she filed to liberate herself from the non-disclosure agreement she signed over her 2006 one-night stand with Trump. It doesn’t look good, for Cohen, but it’s his right and will save him from saying anything the U.S. Attorney could use against him in a potential criminal case. The week’s final indignities arrived when Bloomberg News reported that Cohen’s taxi business is going down the swirly, his real estate properties are producing only modest income and demand for his professional services has dropped off. He’s not broke by any means, but Bloomberg speculates that mounting legal fees might cause him to flip on Trump. And why not? Everybody is a tough guy until they’re not. How certain are we Cohen will be indicted? Late Friday, U.S. District Court Judge S. James Otero granted a 90-day delay in the Stormy Daniels civil case, saying it was “likely” that criminal charges would be filed against Cohen and the overlap of the two cases would “implicate” his Fifth Amendment rights. “This is no simple criminal investigation; it is an investigation into the personal attorney of a sitting President regarding documents that might be subject to the attorney-client privilege,” the judge said.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/29/18 06:53 AM

I think Trump is finding out all his grand plans failed to account for reality. And he may not the world's smartest man.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politic...-appeal-n869841

WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, Mich. — President Donald Trump said Saturday that he would let more guest workers into the U.S. to help farmers whom he said may suffer "a little pain for a little while" because of his own efforts to renegotiate trade deals with several foreign partners.

"For the farmers, OK, it's going to get good," he said at a political rally here, about a 45-minute drive north of Detroit. "We're going to let your guest workers come in."

That could come as a shock to the portion of Trump's base that is most ardently critical of the current U.S. immigration system. For months, the president and his top White House advisers have been promoting a rewrite of the nation's immigration laws that would make it harder — not easier — for low-skilled workers to come into the country.

American farmers in Trump-voting states may get hit hardest by a trade war

But Trump essentially contended that bringing in cheap labor under the H2B visa system — which allows only for temporary entry into the country — won't hurt U.S. workers because there aren't enough available hands for farmers now.

"The unemployment picture is so good, it's so strong, that we have to let people come in," he said. "They're going to be guest workers. They're going to come in, they're going to work on your farms ... but then they have to go out."

The plan didn't appear to be a hit with his audience. While they cheered his tough talk on border security — and chanted "build the wall" in reference to the border barrier he wants to erect between the U.S. and Mexico — he got lackluster applause when he asked what the crowd thought of the temporary-worker proposal.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/29/18 06:14 PM


Brian Krassenstein
&#8207; @krassenstein
39m39 minutes ago

BREAKING: Trump's DOJ just removed a section from their manual titled "need for free press".

I think we are now officially a borderline dictatorship.
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/30/18 06:53 AM


Cry baby Trump is so incensed, insulted and incredulous about the White House dinner held Saturday night but as we've said for two years, this man is the very anatomy of adolescence, child like behavior and what not to say in regard to people's character, looks, color, race, gender, personal beliefs etc. Guess who now construes himself as the moral compass in terms of "going over the line"? You got it!!!!!!!
whistle

Monday morning reports from the Conservative side is indignation but hypocritically so, they're acceptably quiet as Trump embarrasses himself, the media and most of all, the moral threshold which was established decades ago...I guess that he has special dispensation to speak and act otherwise.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/30/18 11:37 AM

A tweet:

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Brian Krassenstein
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COLLUSION!

"We found evidence of collusion in the abundant secret meetings & communications between Trump campaign officials & associates such as Manafort, Gates, Papadopoulos, Don Jr., Flynn & others, w/ emissaries & officials from, or linked to the Russian gov."

-Adam Schiff
9:14 AM - 30 Apr 2018
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/30/18 12:39 PM

OMG. ROFLMAO

https://thinkprogress
.org/matt-schlapp-whcd-journalists-trump-lies-0cc6bb5ad2b3/

During an interview on CNN on Monday, frequent Fox News guest and American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp made a case that it is not the job of journalists to inform the public when the president or his spokespeople are lying.

Instead, Schlapp suggested journalists should just provide stenography of what government officials are saying, and let the American people do their best to sort out who is telling the truth — because otherwise the feelings of Trump supporters might get hurt.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/30/18 04:35 PM

thank you John McCain for showing once again what a moron/idiot we have for president as his key staff says in private.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/30/politics/...ress/index.html

Republican Sen. John McCain, who is battling brain cancer in his home state of Arizona, says in his new book that his current term is his last and, as a result, he feels he can open up about how he sees the current political climate.
"This is my last term. If I hadn't admitted that to myself before this summer, a stage 4 cancer diagnosis acts as ungentle persuasion," he wrote in his book, "The Restless Wave," according to the excerpt published on Apple News on Monday. "I'm freer than colleagues who will face the voters again. I can speak my mind without fearing the consequences much. And I can vote my conscience without worry."

Referring to President Donald Trump, McCain wrote, "He has declined to distinguish the actions of our government from the crimes of despotic ones. The appearance of toughness, or a reality show facsimile of toughness, seems to matter more than any of our values."

McCain said he wants to see the nation's politics "return to the purposes and practices that distinguish our history" and says, "you're damn right, I'm a champion of compromise."

"I would like to see us recover our sense that we are more alike than different," he wrote. "We are citizens of a republic made of shared ideals forged in a new world to replace the tribal enmities that tormented the old one. Even in times of political turmoil such as these, we share that awesome heritage and the responsibility to embrace it."
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 04/30/18 04:43 PM

John has always been my hero even when I've disagreed with him sometimes,which is what politics should be about, compromise.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 05/01/18 03:19 PM

Trump said the press was the enemy of the people. In my opinion that is the most outrageous statement he has said of his many outrageous statements. John McCain pushed back strongly on that. If our democracy survives, which I am not totally sure of at this point, John McCain deserves a lot of credit for his comments.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 05/02/18 08:18 AM

Is there any level of lies told by Trump before he loses support? This is appalling.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/politics/harold-bornstein-trump-letter/index.html

Exclusive: Bornstein claims Trump dictated the glowing health letter

By Alex Marquardt and Lawrence Crook III, CNN
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 05/03/18 05:19 AM

Five Points could get crowded.

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14m14 minutes ago

Prediction:

Jared Kushner, Don Jr., Devin Nunes, Jeff Sessions Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates and Donald Trump are all headed to prison by 2020.

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Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 05/03/18 05:30 AM

It's noted that even Trump knows of an impending impeachment for the fact that Ty Cobb is out and a impeachment lawyer (Bill Clinton's lawyer) is now in.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/02/politics/trump-ty-cobb/index.html
Posted by: Formermac

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 05/03/18 05:40 AM

What were the impeachment charges against Clinton? We can easily and emphatically state that Trump is looking at numerous and multi faceted charges which are well strategized and planned out adverse to politicized Republican lead ploy to remove a Democratic President for getting a little female action. Bottom line, if you can start impeachment proceedings due to sex with one young women, what are Trump's chances when sex is the least of his worry?
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 05/03/18 11:08 AM

As Jeffrey Tobin says, "how stupid do they think we are?"

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/05/03/giuliani-fox-trump-stormy-daniels-payment-newday.cnn


Posted by: luckyduck

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 05/03/18 03:01 PM

http://time.com/5264153/the-fbi-is-in-cr...ialflow_twitter

Excerpt but please read the entire article, it's enlightening to say the least:

The Justice Department’s Inspector General, Michael Horowitz, will soon release a much-anticipated assessment of Democratic and Republican charges that officials at the FBI interfered in the 2016 presidential campaign. That year-long probe, sources familiar with it tell TIME, is expected to come down particularly hard on former FBI director James Comey, who is currently on a high-profile book tour. It will likely find that Comey breached Justice Department protocols in a July 5, 2016, press conference when he criticized Hillary Clinton for using a private email server as Secretary of State even as he cleared her of any crimes, the sources say. The report is expected to also hit Comey for the way he reopened the Clinton email probe less than two weeks before the election, the sources say.

The report closely follows an earlier one in April by Horowitz, which showed that the ousted deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, had lied to the bureau’s internal investigations branch to cover up a leak he orchestrated about Clinton’s family foundation less than two weeks before the election. (The case has since been referred to the U.S. Attorney’s office in Washington, D.C., for potential prosecution.) Another IG report in March found that FBI retaliation against internal whistle-blowers was continuing despite years of bureau pledges to fix the problem. Last fall, Horowitz found that the FBI wasn’t adequately investigating “high-risk” employees who failed polygraph tests.
Posted by: kyle585

Re: "the mood is ugly" - 05/07/18 07:45 AM

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/07/608649799/republican-fears-about-holding-the-senate-start-to-sink-in

Democrats are going into the 2018 elections with the wind at their backs, which could even be enough to flip a Senate map heavily stacked for Republicans come November.

In conversations with several top GOP strategists, nearly all conceded that the overwhelming Democratic en