'Grassroots Protester' Actually GOP Official

Posted by: Zorn

'Grassroots Protester' Actually GOP Official - 08/08/09 01:11 AM

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/grassroots-protester-actually-gop-official.php?ref=fpa

Here's a fun example of astroturfing in its purest form: A woman attending a town hall event for Rep. Steve Kagen (D-WI), and--while loudly raising objections to the Democrats' health care reform proposal--insisting she's just a regular concerned citizen. Except, she's actually a GOP official.

Heather Blish was vice-chairman of the Kewaunee County GOP until 2008. She actually worked for Kagen's opponent, and, according to her own resume, is affiliated with the Republican National Committee.


I'm sure this is the only time this has ever happened. ;\)
Posted by: Al Kida

Re: 'Grassroots Protester' Actually GOP Official - 08/08/09 03:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Zorn
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/grassroots-protester-actually-gop-official.php?ref=fpa

Here's a fun example of astroturfing in its purest form: A woman attending a town hall event for Rep. Steve Kagen (D-WI), and--while loudly raising objections to the Democrats' health care reform proposal--insisting she's just a regular concerned citizen. Except, she's actually a GOP official.

Heather Blish was vice-chairman of the Kewaunee County GOP until 2008. She actually worked for Kagen's opponent, and, according to her own resume, is affiliated with the Republican National Committee.


I'm sure this is the only time this has ever happened. ;\)



I hear Rep. Steve Kagen member of Democratics party!!!

He also at town hall meeting!!!

I bet Democratics pay him to be there too!!!
Posted by: Ranger

Re: 'Grassroots Protester' Actually GOP Official - 08/08/09 10:22 AM

funny how when the democrats were after Bush the protesters were patriots, and now that the republicans are protesting the democratic bills the protesters are Timothy Mcveigh wanna-bees

it's difficult to believe that there are those that don't want their healthcare controlled by the government, and that they might even "organize" to make sure that their voices are heard \:o
Posted by: Zorn

Re: 'Grassroots Protester' Actually GOP Official - 08/08/09 12:25 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/07/opinion/07krugman.html?_r=1

Yes there are legitimate people protesting.
Quote:

There was a telling incident at a town hall held by Representative Gene Green, D-Tex. An activist turned to his fellow attendees and asked if they “oppose any form of socialized or government-run health care.” Nearly all did. Then Representative Green asked how many of those present were on Medicare. Almost half raised their hands.

Now, people who don’t know that Medicare is a government program probably aren’t reacting to what President Obama is actually proposing. They may believe some of the disinformation opponents of health care reform are spreading, like the claim that the Obama plan will lead to euthanasia for the elderly. (That particular claim is coming straight from House Republican leaders.) But they’re probably reacting less to what Mr. Obama is doing, or even to what they’ve heard about what he’s doing, than to who he is.

That is, the driving force behind the town hall mobs is probably the same cultural and racial anxiety that’s behind the “birther” movement, which denies Mr. Obama’s citizenship. Senator Dick Durbin has suggested that the birthers and the health care protesters are one and the same; we don’t know how many of the protesters are birthers, but it wouldn’t be surprising if it’s a substantial fraction.

And cynical political operators are exploiting that anxiety to further the economic interests of their backers.


Now we get to the big organizers of this 'grassroots' protesting.

Quote:
Key organizers include two Astroturf (fake grass-roots) organizations: FreedomWorks, run by the former House majority leader Dick Armey, and a new organization called Conservatives for Patients’ Rights.

The latter group, by the way, is run by Rick Scott, the former head of Columbia/HCA, a for-profit hospital chain. Mr. Scott was forced out of that job amid a fraud investigation; the company eventually pleaded guilty to charges of overbilling state and federal health plans, paying $1.7 billion — yes, that’s “billion” — in fines. You can’t make this stuff up.


So what they are doing is spreading bad information to play on your natural fears - that the govenrment will run your life, and that socialist programs are always evil. And yet many people either use medicare of medicaid or have family members using it. Most of us have probably used unemployment insurance in thepast. Should we get rid of all of these programs?

If you have any information about how Democrats did the same thing, please post it, I can send it to my hard core democrat friends, I like pointing out Democrat hypocrisy when I can. I dislike the entire party system really, I think we should get rid of them.
Posted by: Brightday

Re: 'Grassroots Protester' Actually GOP Official - 08/08/09 05:36 PM

I think Nation Health Insurance should be optional, so that all the people opposed to it could reject it for themselves. Same with unemploument benefits, and needed social services supplement payments. That would help keep costs lower and help those truly in need.
Posted by: Peloquin

Re: 'Grassroots Protester' Actually GOP Official - 08/10/09 07:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Ranger
funny how when the democrats were after Bush the protesters were patriots, and now that the republicans are protesting the democratic bills the protesters are Timothy Mcveigh wanna-bees

it's difficult to believe that there are those that don't want their healthcare controlled by the government, and that they might even "organize" to make sure that their voices are heard \:o


Are you calling for the government to not offer any kind of health coverage, say like Medicare?
Posted by: tomwaits

Re: 'Grassroots Protester' Actually GOP Official - 08/10/09 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Ranger

it's difficult to believe that there are those that don't want their healthcare controlled by the government, and that they might even "organize" to make sure that their voices are heard \:o

Yes i just love having the insurance company raise my premium & deductible every year but they did lower the lifetime cap .
Amazing how many of those so opposed to this gov. health program are feeding at the government trough for their income & health care.